Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

This is the forum dedicated to all 'minor' local psyops - phony murders, kidnappings and whatnot. It has now become evident that the news media constantly feeds the public with entirely fake stories - in order to keep us in eternal fear of our next-door neighbours and fellow citizens.
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Re: Role of TV Director Ruki Sidhwa in Hungerford PSYOP hoax

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Euphoria wrote: [...]
Crimewatch:
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Ahem...Jan Dildo while you are about it!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Dando

In retrospect, I think it's possible that Jill wouldn't go along with the charade and was whacked by british lack of intelligence. Strangely a "Di" lookalike too.
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Re: Role of TV Director Ruki Sidhwa in Hungerford PSYOP hoax

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brianv wrote:Ahem...Jan Dildo while you are about it!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Dando

In retrospect, I think it's possible that Jill wouldn't go along with the charade and was whacked by british lack of intelligence. Strangely a "Di" lookalike too.
I agree Brian. Regarding Hungerford, I have also found the following, from the Daily Mail in August 2007:

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... rford.html

This refers to 'Trevor Wainwright,' the local policeman at the time of the massacre, who is supposed to have continued to serve in Hungerford Police until 2001. Wainwright claims to have 1) attended the hospital and seen the vicsims personally, 2) signed Ryan's gun licence, and 3) known another police officer who supposedly died in the incident. If Wainwright is real, not a sim, then this definitely implicates him in the fraud, several times over.

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Same article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... rford.html

Look at how cleverly they worked this. Lots of action, but in the end, it's all based on the word of 'Zubair Dean' as none of these events can otherwise be proven to have taken place.

Zubair Dean also made the news in 2005. I have idea if this was another PSYOP or if he was genuinely busted:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wilt ... 320774.stm
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Sylvia Pascoe role in Hungerford massacre PSYOP

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... rford.html

So it seems that St John Ambulance was involved in this hoax. After all, it's not enough for two managers at Princess Margaret Hospital (in Wroughton, Swindon) to lie about the vicsims' gunshot wounds being treated there. The managers of the ambulance service must also have been involved to vouch for the existence of the wounded.
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RAF links to Princess Margaret hospital, Wroughton, Swindon

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Another RAF link to Princess Margaret Hospital, Wroughton, Swindon.

It must be noted again that the nearby Princess Alexandra was officially an RAF hospital, but not the Princess Margaret.

Yet here, we see that even a one-time PA to a senior nurse at Princess Margaret, was an experienced RAF stewardess who remained in the defence sector later in her career:

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Nursing and the RAF

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Although this applies to the 1990s, we can see here an example of an RAF intelligence analyst (working in that position from Lincolnshire), who had previously worked as a 'general adult care' nurse at the Princess Margaret Hospital, Wroughton, near Swindon.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joanna-ashley/24/557/5a

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I note the interest in NLP...
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Re: Nursing and the RAF

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Euphoria wrote:Although this applies to the 1990s, we can see here an example of an RAF intelligence analyst (working in that position from Lincolnshire), who had previously worked as a 'general adult care' nurse at the Princess Margaret Hospital, Wroughton, near Swindon.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joanna-ashley/24/557/5a

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Good job Euphoria in finding these secret services/military operatives active in the field . You are doing a real journalist work though you cater only for a very limited audience :)
TV, movies , infotainment is one , giant NLP operation :)
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'Diplomatic Protection' training exercise nearby on same day

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Thanks, Bostonterrierowner. It's good to see that this thread is still attracting plenty of views...

Yet again, we find that a drill or training exercise was underway on the same day, close by, at the time of Michael Ryan's first shots. This time around it was the mysterious Diplomatic Protection group. I'm sure this was a total coincidence, of course!

This is an excerpt from Jeremy Joseph's 1993 book, 'One Man's Massacre' (Smith Gryphon). I suspect the now France-based author Josephs to be an insider to this hoax, and it may well be Josephs who popped up earlier on this thread to quickly dismiss my claims of fakery.

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I carried out a Google search to identify people involved with the Diplomatic Protection Group in the summer of 1987...This is the first individual I found...

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/bob-watters ... 41/564/295

Bob Watterson

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Interestingly, Watterson was promoted into a new intelligence role in autumn 1987, just a month after August's Hungerford incident.

Second, I found 'Bill Rowlinson,' who personally admits being active in the Diplomatic Protection Group for at least part of 1987:

http://www.greenhithe.org.uk/dev/mem.php?mem=3197362

'...In 1986 I transfered to the Diplomatic Protection Group at Tottenham Court Road...In 1987 I joined PT17, Level 2 B Team which later becoming Black Team...'

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Third, we have Barry Mannakee, who was rumoured to be having an affair with Princess Diana in 1986/7 and as a consequence was moved on from Royalty Protection Branch (SO14) to the Diplomatic Protection Group (SO6) in 1987, before his death in a traffic accident in May 1987.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Mannakee

Now obviously Mannakee's death took place three months before Hungerford, and it's not possible to tell yet whether this was a real person/event or yet another PSYOP.

Fourth, we have David Veness, who was not officially involved in the Diplomatic Protection Group in August 1987, but joined the unit two months later, in October. If we look further into his biography, it seems that Veness also might have questions to answer about the Hungerford incident:

http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/David_Veness

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PC Wainwright 'vetted Ryan' at his home to 'modify licence'

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From Jeremy Josephs again:

'...By a terrible irony, it would later emerge, it was PC Wainwright who had vetted Ryan when the latter wanted to modify his licence to cover the gun he used in the Hungerford massacre. He had called on his neighbour’s home in November 1986 to cheek on his worthiness to hold a firearms certificate and on security arrangements in the house...'

http://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ryan-mi ... -part3.htm

So it looks like PC Wainwright is directly implicated in this fraud. He really put himself on the line here!
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

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This may prove interesting to some of you, it's a controversial BBC documentary about the incident, broadcast in 2005. It has been impossible to get hold of but is now on YouTube. It contains interviews with victims along with the 999 calls from that day, photographs of the dead and wounded, and interviews with the emergency workers who attended the scene.
I am very open to the possibility that there was some sort of mind control going on with Michael Ryan (I read that he awoke that morning with an enormous headache) but I do believe the victims were real.
Some of you may disagree but I am entitled to that opinion, as you are to yours, so I will not be attacked for it. Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrAowjf5ULQ
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

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Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I do believe the victims were real.
Some of you may disagree but I am entitled to that opinion, as you are to yours, so I will not be attacked for it.
No one here cares what you believe; we care what you can prove. If you actually think there were real victims, please make at least a little bit of a tiny effort to convince us, with proof.

And "No", you are not entitled to your opinion. Opinions have nothing to do with, and don't result from, entitlement or right - humans have opinions merely by virtue of being alive.

Whether or not you should express your opinion is a matter of judgment (not entitlement or right).
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

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fbenario wrote:
Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I do believe the victims were real.
Some of you may disagree but I am entitled to that opinion, as you are to yours, so I will not be attacked for it.
No one here cares what you believe; we care what you can prove. If you actually think there were real victims, please make at least a little bit of a tiny effort to convince us, with proof.

And "No", you are not entitled to your opinion. Opinions have nothing to do with, and don't result from, entitlement or right - humans have opinions merely by virtue of being alive.

Whether or not you should express your opinion is a matter of judgment (not entitlement or right).
Why not prove to me that nobody died on the streets of Hungerford? I have already posted earlier in the thread with what (admittedly little) I could contribute, including photos of the victims and a link to a FB account of Michael's youngest victim. Something is amiss with the official story but are you not open to other avenues of research like mind-control? Did you watch the documentary I linked in my previous post? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

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Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:
fbenario wrote:
Mr. McGillicuddy wrote:I do believe the victims were real.
Some of you may disagree but I am entitled to that opinion, as you are to yours, so I will not be attacked for it.
No one here cares what you believe; we care what you can prove. If you actually think there were real victims, please make at least a little bit of a tiny effort to convince us, with proof.

And "No", you are not entitled to your opinion. Opinions have nothing to do with, and don't result from, entitlement or right - humans have opinions merely by virtue of being alive.

Whether or not you should express your opinion is a matter of judgment (not entitlement or right).
Why not prove to me that nobody died on the streets of Hungerford? I have already posted earlier in the thread with what (admittedly little) I could contribute, including photos of the victims and a link to a FB account of Michael's youngest victim. Something is amiss with the official story but are you not open to other avenues of research like mind-control? Did you watch the documentary I linked in my previous post? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

You believe. You believe. You click on a link. You believe more. You're entitled to express your wild beliefs on another forum. No time for waffling on vicsims. Simulated victims are a real technological feat of the modern era. Deal with it.

Babushka_Yaya aka Mr. McGillicuddy aka whatever you are, good bye.
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Re: Hungerford massacre, Berkshire, UK, 19/8/1987

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You believe. You believe. You click on a link. You believe more. You're entitled to express your wild beliefs on another forum. No time for waffling on vicsims. Simulated victims are a real technological feat of the modern era. Deal with it.

Babushka_Yaya aka Mr. McGillicuddy aka whatever you are, good bye.
Oh that's settled it and put me in my place, well done. What a well thought out and articulate riposte. You sound like David Brent.
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