9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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http://www.911memorial.org/sites/all/fi ... 0FINAL.pdf

This has some "interesting" bits written in it:

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If you have a medal, you will be engraved in stone. If you don't, you're not (enough) part of the scam <_<


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Here we have a nice summed up list of the perps.


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I guess "the 911 Memorial resources" are the perps named earlier. No mention of what "available sources" are though. But don't worry, if they don't have any information on a NOK they will list the vicsim's name anyway :lol:


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"most recent death certificate" ?? Can there be more than 1 version and can it be updated ?? I'm not going to any conclusions yet, maybe other people on this forum can..


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Apparently "online biographies" are a reliable source of information, aside from the obvious perps named there too.


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"Working list" is good enough to work with, because the source is another agency who is working on a separate memorial :lol:
Am I reading this correctly that the State of Pennsylvania doesn't have the correct names of the vicsims as they appear on the "death certificates" ? Or how do we interpret the word "as" in this sentence?
The 9/11 Memorial says the vicsim list was provided to them by the National Park Service. But did the National Park Service also provide the death certificates then? :huh: If not, how did the 9/11 Memorial obtain these records?

Throughout this document by the way they keep on referring to the vicsims as "Victims" with a capital V. It just makes them a bit more important I guess..
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Dear Extremophile,

Thanks for highlighting those text sections from the OFFICIAL 9/11 MEMORIAL pdf. http://www.911memorial.org/sites/all/fi ... 0FINAL.pdf

Those text sections are truly enlightening for anyone wishing to get a feel of the highly embarrassing situation the perps are enmeshed in. What are they supposed to do now? They can only play with words at this time. They are like the little boy caught with his hands in the cookie box:
"Mommy! I was only trying to save the cookies and stack them in order to close the package - so that they wouldn't get soggy!"

Meanwhile, here is a person I take full responsibility for introducing him to you all as a full-fledged 9/11 perp :
CHARLES HIRSCH - The New York Chief Medical ExaminerImage

I have now studied the antics of this man for long enough to conclude that he is a 9/11 perp and a prick. Let the world fall upon me for being so dreadfully rude. (He and his mysterious 'secretary', Ellen Borakove, are - among other things - suspected of covering up John Lennon's killing).

Just check out this 2006 article from CNN:
http://articles.cnn.com/2006-04-06/just ... ?_s=PM:LAW
Giuliani explained how remains of only half of the trade center victims were recovered for burial. The city's medical examiner told him most people in the towers were "vaporized."
WHAA-AAATT?? Vaporized? No, folks. That can't be a serious Medical Examiner who utters such bullcrap. Here's someone who knows a little more about cremation and what sort of heat is needed for human bodies to 'vaporize':
"The 9/11 victims did NOT vaporize" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCsqayKrSM

Ok guys, so.... it's not only us "conspiracy theorists" saying that there were no victims on 9/11 - THE NEW YORK CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER said that most (which would mean "the majority") of the people in the towers were "vaporized". Wow. Did you know that? :huh: I did not. Until a while ago.
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simonshack wrote:*

Moreover, my dear Norwegian friend (born of African father) - Abdoulaye Koné - has now been replaced with a portrait of a black man!!!

My old expat friend Abdoulaye Koné:
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http://voicesofseptember11.org/dev/memo ... =484413964

The portrait of "Abdoulaye Koné" on the current MUSEUM memorial page:
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http://names.911memorial.org/#lang=en_U ... on&id=3626

Of course, I am absolutely livid about this. I'm going to force the 9/11 MUSEUM to reinstate the original portrait of my friend.

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To anyone not understanding my sarcasm here: No - I don't know the people mentioned above. Of course not. I am only trying to show how poorly these ridiculous 9/11 memorials have been managed - ever since day one. This 9/11 hoax was much too complex for the perps themselves. They have been soundly busted - and they know it. All I'm asking here is for everyone to give me a hand exposing definitively this pathetic hoax played upon mankind. Enough is enough. Let us - all together - tear this castle of lies to the ground. No nano-thermite needed. Only our grey matter.
yeah man... and CNN Mem STILL hasn't corrected the profile/link of my pal George Lopez! :(

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /4376.html

(I mean wtf was his relation to MARGARET RUTH ECHTERMANN?)
http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=114921

looking forward to the museum where they'll finally, after a decade, present an accurate portrait of 'G-Lo', as we called him.
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I couldn't even remember what we were arguing about, so I guess it was pretty petty. Oh yeah ... it was something about the assumption that some aspect of information about the FBI was real. I employed my usual skepticism. I assume Raven was just saying he believed it or something. Simon's on a mission of some kind so let's drop it.
if they don't have any information on a NOK they will list the vicsim's name anyway
This is a truly embarrassing document for the perps! Don't they know they can just go to the CNN Memorial and the Voices Memorial and collect information on all the vicsims? There are even strange sim-"friends" posting comments.

Surely, the inability to "have any information" about any single one of these alleged victims should disqualify them from being acknowledged in a memorial! If there were literally "no information" about any body who died in a terrorist attack after 10 years (and after we have been showered with an endless parade of photos and news snippets about them) why do they even have a sim-pathy candle on the CNN memorial?

This is an obvious ploy - a way of stating that they will pretend to be objective observers of their own artificial creation so that they pre-emptively declare immunity from intelligent questions.

Are they not going to exclude Dianna and Justin Allyiegh? :P
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hoi.polloi wrote:
Are they not going to exclude Diana Aalyigh and Justin Allyigh? :P
Exactly! The ex-girlfriend of my neighbor's cousin's former co-worker, Fallon, is really livid about the fact that both her twin kins, Justin and Diana, are simply absent from the 9/!! MUSEUM's Death List! :lol:

Fallon Aalyigh called me last week telling me how she was literally knocked over by this shocking clerical error - especially since Just-in-a-Lie and Die-in-a-Lie should appear at the very top of the list (just kidding folks - Fallon never called me) <_< :

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http://web.archive.org/web/200411111943 ... eID=111735

Fallon says she doesn't mind not finding Justin and Diana on the SSDI - but she's on a mission to reinstate them at least on the 9/11 Death List.

To be sure, both Diana and justin are duly listed on FindaGrave.com:
DIANA AALYIGH: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 509&df=all&
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JUSTIN AALYIGH: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=15696513
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simonshack wrote:To be sure, both Justin and Diana are duly listed on FindaGrave.com:
JUSTIN AALYIGH: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=15696513
DIANA AALYIGH: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 509&df=all&
I so loved the die-in-a-lie "slip"...

Just for the record, the page with the aalighies is still reachable on the wayback machine, here:
http://web.archive.org/web/200302061013 ... ction=list

You can even click on the Diana Aalyigh name and read this wonderful tribute:
Hi my name is Freddy i was a sun of Diana i am 19, she was a wonderful mother to me she had called me at 8:10 and said i love u sun,and said why are saying that mom she said wtc se is on fire and she said turn on tv so i did all i see is one tower standin and that was tower 1 and as i was talking to her i saw tower1 staring to fall she said u see that i said and i said i love you mom she didn't get to say i love u back. Freddy Smith My mother was working on the 93 floor of tower1!!! :(
And on Justin's page:
i love him so much,the one in blue shorts is hime
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The Aalyigh's page @ FindaGrave was created by one "Ideal Soul",

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=46809570

...who has 322 memorial pages to their credit.

Here is a link to the first 40 - "A"

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=46809570&

A quick scan reveals three other "A's" from the 9/11 yarn which I didn't immediatley recognise. And allegedly taken from wallofamericans.

Abigail Adams (The wife of Henry Adams?) Profession: Receptionist - Had only been working for the company for 5 days.
Stephanie Age
James Aglu

These names are not present on the CNN joke memorial nor is there any other mention of these names in regard to 9/11 anywhere. But FindaGrave has these names listed as Buried at the WTC.

There is a Stephen Adams, a conglomeration of two of the above names. I guess it was late when Perp was assigned to the names and fucked up!

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There are of course 11 famous personages purportedly "buried" at the WTC virtual cemetary along with the other 2765 lesser sims.

http://www.findagrave.com/php/famous.ph ... yid=764416

Along with the Angell's and Psycho Spouse Berry Berry and half a dozen child-actors we have...

Glascoe, Keith A. b. December 9, 1962 d. September 11, 2001

Actor. He appeared in the films "Assault On Devil's Island" (1997), "Leon" (1994), and "Dottie Gets Spanked" (1993). He also appeared in the television series "100 Centre Street." He died in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York.

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Keith A. Glascoe

??? WTF? :lol: :lol: :lol: Another badly scaled head-job!

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /2219.html

He married Veronica Squef...ok.

Veronica Glascoe Squef http://www.facebook.com/veronica.squef Maybe one of you FB guys could ask her about her hubby's shrunken-head photo! And her new life with somebody from another photograph...

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And now for something completely different and slightly weird...

Does anybody remember a female R&B "singer" named Aaliyah? Nope? Didn't think so!

Anyway she was "killed" in an alleged "plane crash" in the Caribbean in August 2001, a drunk and coked up unlicensed pilot - one Luis Morales the Third :rolleyes: gets the blame.

Her full name is Aaliyah Dana Haughton. [Diana Aalyigh]

Aaliyah worked with record producers Timbaland - Timbaland has helped to create some of the most successful songs in modern pop music, including several hit songs for Aaliyah and Justin Timberlake. [Justin Aalyigh]

The plot thickens!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah
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brianv wrote:
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Keith A. Glascoe

??? WTF? :lol: :lol: :lol: Another badly scaled head-job!
Oh yeah, Brian! The Glascoe/Fletcher clone. Remember this post? http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2349343

And yes - believe me or not - but I once woke up one morning and remembered Aaliyah the pop star - and my thoughts went to the Aalyighs...it then slipped out of my mind after my morning coffee and so I never looked into it. It's worth a dig! Weird stuff. :blink:
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Timbaland and Timberlake? Srsly?

Weird. :blink:
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brianv wrote: And now for something completely different and slightly weird...

Does anybody remember a female R&B "singer" named Aaliyah? Nope? Didn't think so!

Anyway she was "killed" in an alleged "plane crash" in the Caribbean in August 2001, a drunk and coked up unlicensed pilot - one Luis Morales the Third :rolleyes: gets the blame.

Her full name is Aaliyah Dana Haughton. [Diana Aalyigh]

Aaliyah worked with record producers Timbaland - Timbaland has helped to create some of the most successful songs in modern pop music, including several hit songs for Aaliyah and Justin Timberlake. [Justin Aalyigh]

The plot thickens!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah
Just scribbling down a couple of notes/info/trivia about pop star Aaliyah. No assumptions made. <_<

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- Aaliyah died at age 22 in a freak plane crash which killed all 9 on board. Apparently, the pilot Luis Morales III was a murky/irresponsible figure.

- The day of the crash was Morales' first official day with Blackhawk International Airways, an "FAA Part 135 single-pilot operation" - but he wasn't registered with the FAA to fly for Blackhawk.

- Aaliyah's funeral was held at the Saint Ignatius Loyola Church in New York - on August 31, 2001. I guess that would be 11 days before 9/11. :unsure:
Naturally, 22 white doves were released to symbolize each year of Aaliyah's life. She's apparently interred in a crypt at Ferncliff Cemetery:
Image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah

- Before her death, Aaliyah had filmed part of her role in The Matrix Reloaded and was scheduled to appear in The Matrix Revolutions.
Among her few forays into the movie industry - she was 'the mother of all vampires' in "Queen of the Damned".
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- in 2001, the United States Social Security Administration ranked the name "Aaliyah" one of the 100 most popular names for newborn girls.
I suppose everyone in America by now must have bumped into a ... Aaliyah.

- Needless to say, Aaliyah's family has set up a Memorial Fund for her:

THE OFFICIAL SITE OF AALIYAH http://www.aaliyah.com/home.htm
"We thank you ... for your love, loyalty and support in continually keeping the memory of our beloved angel Aaliyah alive now and forever ."

Enough for now. I'm off to have a refreshing shower ! -_-
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Great stuff! Worth re-visiting this for the new members as it is easy for these gems to get buried amongst the fine body of work contained within these pages.

I also recall that many of the vicsim names emanated from towns and cities and the first thing that struck me, as a UK citizen, is Stephanie Age (Stevenage) & Glascoe (Glasgow) are phonetically very similar. :huh:



Edit: Simon's post just appeared. Interesting stuff. Is that an owl's head on her breasts in the Matrix poster? :P
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I am just curious guys if some of these celebrities are be-ing reused for different roles in a greater "manipulation" agenda? Whats Aaliyah's real name ? Is she still with us, as another famous person , just slightly modified? I would offer some hints but I am not familiar with pop starlets. Some of these people on TV really resemble one another. Please be lenient with me now , but the real thing I am getting at is Alex Jones and if he is Bill Hicks. I saw thread suggesting it on Lets Roll. Jones looks around 50 , no way he is 36 . Bill Hicks or whatever the real name of this dude was/is(?) would be exactly this age today. Last but not least they really look very similar . Is it possible that some of these figures originate in some government agency with exactly the job to be present in media and work for the greater agenda in this field? This Aaliyah girl's plane crash was fake , at least thats what appears to be the case. Maybe the same fake death happened to "Bill Hicks" and now he is "Alex Jones" ? I know it sounds crazy , but compared to "Moon Landing" its really nothing , and knowing media fakery and all the stuff we are into in Here it really shoudnt be surprising .
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bostonterrierowner wrote:I am just curious guys if some of these celebrities are be-ing reused for different roles in a greater "manipulation" agenda? Whats Aaliyah's real name ? Is she still with us, as another famous person , just slightly modified? I would offer some hints but I am not familiar with pop starlets. Some of these people on TV really resemble one another. Please be lenient with me now , but the real thing I am getting at is Alex Jones and if he is Bill Hicks. I saw thread suggesting it on Lets Roll. Jones looks around 50 , no way he is 36 . Bill Hicks or whatever the real name of this dude was/is(?) would be exactly this age today. Last but not least they really look very similar . Is it possible that some of these figures originate in some government agency with exactly the job to be present in media and work for the greater agenda in this field? This Aaliyah girl's plane crash was fake , at least thats what appears to be the case. Maybe the same fake death happened to "Bill Hicks" and now he is "Alex Jones" ? I know it sounds crazy , but compared to "Moon Landing" its really nothing , and knowing media fakery and all the stuff we are into in Here it really shoudnt be surprising .
Alex Jones has no talent for comedy. Hence he is not Bill Hicks...
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Jones doing "funny " voices is just miserable , you are right NoHo :) Maybe thats the part of a cover?
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