Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by pov603 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:57 am

I recently caught a bit of a documentary on TV about the Gemini missions [or Gemenee as the Americans tend to say...].
It showed some of the 'footage' from the moon walks and 'prepping' for later missions to the moon.
I wondered why the Earth always seems to be in full daylight view when the footage is shown.
Surely, with an alleged orbit of 90 minutes we would or should [and presumably would have actually enjoyed] seeing dusk/dawn sweeping across the Earth but never seem to.
Of course stars are nowhere to be seen but presumably again even if we were to see the Earth in darkness we would or should see the major cities lit up like beacons?

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by keyth » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:51 am

Sisterlover wrote:
elmoastro wrote:Here's Kibo (the Japanese section) from Wiki:
elmoastro wrote: Image
40' shipping container
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Actually it makes some sense to have the IIS "modules" housed in shipping containers. They would each be uniquely fitted with interior props, and comfortably slid end-to-end into a 747 or similar large aircraft. Management and interchangeability of new and existing modules would be easy.

A 747 freighter, with varying sizes and configurations:
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Source: http://www.jetaviationphotos.it/en/airc ... g-747.html


747 freighter cross-section:
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Source: http://members.liwest.at/gerys/boeing747-400.htm


Here Kevin Ford mentions the IIS interior at 18:50, saying "it's about the volume of a 747..."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIARFZseD6Y

Again, on the Canadian Space Agency's site:
Fully assembled, the ISS will be 108 by 74 metres. It will have 1,250 cubic metres of living and working space, which is the equivalent of the interior of a Boeing 747, about the size of three average Canadian houses.
Source: http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/iss/facts.asp

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Starbucked » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:29 am

Soyuz and Rocket Moved to Launch Pad


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_A9LKXBxPI

This video is full of strange and incongruent lighting and shadows.

Check out the guy at 9:40. The left of his face shows sunlight, but the side of the rocket appears in shade.

The women in the video seem to be playing the role of interested spectators/ photographers. Note the woman pop in at 7:22 and pretend to snap a photo. Priceless!

The Soyuz program is Science Fiction gold!
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by lux » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:40 pm

SpaceX released this highly detailed photo of the splashdown of the Dragon spacecraft returning from its mission to the ISS yesterday:

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http://news.discovery.com/space/private ... 130326.htm

It was supposedly recovered but I couldn't find any photos that actually showed the recovery (only photos from 2012 of another similar splashdown.)

But, I'm sure it really happened because NASA said so. B)

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Starbucked » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:51 am

^^ I haven't had any luck finding a video of the SpaceX splashdown, perhaps because none exist. Is it too much trouble to have the team produce a real looking video of the landing?

According to this video, the 3000 pound capsule hit the water at just 12 miles per hour which is slower than an average skydiver of 14 mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUnSrj__xl0

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... cargo?lite

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by simonshack » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:22 pm

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BUGS BATS AND BIRDS

Looks like SPACE X really love those bugs, birds, bats and flies 'spicing up' their launch animations... :rolleyes:


Latest SPACE X Dragon9 launch (March1, 2013):
THE DRAGONFLY: (25sec before lift-off)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... W4#t=2363s

Former SPACEX Falcon9 launch (Oct 7, 2012)
THE FALCON BAT:(19sec before lift-off)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... zXU#t=583s

Former SPACEX Falcon9 launch (June 4, 2010)
THE FALCON BUG: (3sec before lift-off)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Hng8#t=86s
(my old post about the Falcon bug): http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2354997

Former SPACEX Falcon9 launch (June 4, 2010)
THE FALCON BIRD: (1sec after rocket exits lens view)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HrP0#t=61s

I guess that's why the call them software 'bugs' ? :P Seriously now - the folks behind this crap must have severely fried minds.
I wish America will soon wake up and stop this ongoing sham.

I sincerely hope NO ONE will dare say that these insects and birds passing in front of these lenses within 20 seconds of these four launches is "a matter of coincidence". Please know that the above loops are all extracted from videos which last several minutes - during which NO insects are seen passing in front of these lenses. Moreover, any experienced photographer will know that insects passing close to a lens (focused on a distant object) will NOT be captured on film with any significant detail. Therefore, the most plausible conclusion is that these insects and birds have been inserted digitally - into these digitally-crafted rocket launch animations.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Starbucked » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:02 am

According to this, the ISS crew could see the launch from orbit! Unless they post a video of the launch taken from the ISS, I will suspend belief B)


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPUmI1WO-R8

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:10 am

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At 17:52 in above "Soyuz launch" video, the commentator goes:

"Velocity is now approaching 1100 miles per hour".

Good Heavens... I have lost count of just how many times I've heard that exact same line - in dozens of NASA, ESA and Soyuz videos... :rolleyes:

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Heiwa » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:05 pm

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These latest kosmoasstroholes still need to study paper manuals how things are working and what button to push in the spaceship using a pointer when you are glued to your seat due to great acceleration. :P
It doesn't look convincing at all.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Sisterlover » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:31 am

Cosmonauts reach ISS in six hours, rather than two days (hint: it was a short drive to the studio backlot):

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquin ... 33858.html

And yes, a successful docking at 17,500 mph.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Sisterlover » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:27 am

"How long it takes to reach international space station?
i just wonder why it takes so long to reach international space station when the satellite is only 400 km above earth (geostationary orbit) as compared to travelling from one place to other on earth takes so much longer ?????

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
The ISS is moving at about 5 miles/second. You can't just fly up to it because it isn't stationary. Plus to dock you have to move in real slow for safety and to not affect the orbit."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 853AAzKiPr


So, to catch up with the ISS, you must slow down...

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Starbucked » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:51 pm

simonshack wrote:*

At 17:52 in above "Soyuz launch" video, the commentator goes:

"Velocity is now approaching 1100 miles per hour".

Good Heavens... I have lost count of just how many times I've heard that exact same line - in dozens of NASA, ESA and Soyuz videos... :rolleyes:
Then I beg your forgiveness for adding this film posted on youtube on March 11, 2011


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKs6ikmrLgg

I swear to the baby jesus, I am not on NASA's payroll. Although, I wouldn't mind being so.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Starbucked » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:36 am

Chris Hatfield fools the fools and wraps a joke with a hoax.

https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/statu ... 80/photo/1

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Can you spot the fakery? :puke:

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by icarusinbound » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:00 am

So this is ostensibly some part of the ISS that's like a WW2 bomber 'gunner bubble'...or in this case, arm-aiming. What goes on with the asymmetric arc of curve that's to the right of his collar? And there's a layering issue there, too. Why no anti-glare coating on the hood/bonnet? Plus, the world looks somewhat bright....and over-curved, since the ISS is meant to be in LEO (not that I would conflate astronautics with astrology...after all, one's a scientifically-based technology, the other's just an opiate for the masses...hey, wait a minute..?)

Edit- the right-hand window view seems very unfocused. And the elegant curve of Mother Earth is more like a triptych of rather straight neon shop-signs.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE ISS

Unread post by Frost » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:01 pm

I've only increased the backlight :)

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To compare with the real black sky

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It remains black

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