Engineering 'disease'

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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby ICfreely on April 17th, 2017, 10:57 am

patrix wrote:

First I would like to say that a couple of months ago when I wrote this, I was a bit "emotionally unstable" and my postings here got me a well deserved ban. We all react differently when "waking up" or whatever we should call it.


No worries, patrix. Been there. Hope you're doing better now.

As for why I think fat is essential and why Elaine Morgan and the Aquatic Ape Hypothesis is compelling it is because of my research and personal experiences.


If it works for you then more power to you. I'll look into it. Thanks.

Read what I and others write. From that try to set up a meaningful hypothesis that challenges your current stance. If you fail to refute it through extensive research and/or experiments, you've made progress.


My mind doesn't work that way. I can point out the flaws in a given hypothesis without having to provide a replacement hypothesis of my own.


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It is extremely hard for even smart people like doctors to challenge the ideas they learned in school, and to challenge their own biases - considering biases are not even something we are consciously aware of.


Good point. They, for the most part, don't have an incentive to rock the boat. The medical profession is not unlike a military.

How and When to Be Your Own Doctor - Isabelle A. Moser, M.D., Steve Solomon

But becoming an official medical deity doesn’t permit one to create their own methods. No no, the AMA’s professional oversight and control system makes continued possession of the license to practice (and the high income that usually comes with it) entirely dependent on continued conformity to what is defined by the AMA as “correct practice.” Any doctor who innovates beyond strict limits or uses nonstandard treatments is in real danger of losing their livelihood and status.

http://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/02/0201hyglibcat/020102moser/020102Moser02ch2.html



Confessions of a Medical Heretic (Ch. 7: The Devil’s Priests) - Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D.

Suicide accounts for more deaths among doctors than car and plane crashes, drownings, and homicides combined. Doctors’ suicide rate is twice the average for all white Americans. Every year, about 100 doctors commit suicide, a number equal to the graduating class of the average medical school. Furthermore, the suicide rate among female physicians is neatly four times higher than that for other women over age twenty-five.

Apologists for the medical profession cite several reasons for doctors’ high rate of sickness. The drugs are easily available to them; they must work long hours under severe stress; their background and psychological makeup predisposes them to stretch their powers to the limits; and their patients and the community make excessive demands on them. Of course, whether or not you accept these reasons, they don’t explain away the fact that doctors are a very sick group of people.

Nonetheless, I prefer to look for more reasons. Fraud and corruption in the research process comes as no surprise to anyone who witnesses the lengths to which drug and formula companies go to doctors to their way of thinking. Free dinners, cocktails, conventions, and subsidized research fellowships still are only superficial explanations. When you examine the psychological and moral climate of Modern Medicine, you begin to get closer to understanding why doctors are so unhealthy.

Medical politics, for example, is a cutthroat power game of the most primitive sort. I much prefer political politics, because there you have the art of the possible, which means you have to compromise. Medical politics is the art of sheer power. There is no compromise: you go right for the jugular vein before your own is torn out. There’s no room for compromise because churches never compromise on canon law. Instead of a relatively open process in which people with different interests get together to try to get the most out of the situation that they can, in medical politics there is a rigid authoritarian power structure which can be moved only through winner-take-all power plays. Historically, doctors who have dared to change things significantly have been ostracized and have had to sacrifice their careers in order to hold to their ideas. Few doctors are willing to do either.

http://www.whale.to/c/devilspriests.html
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby SacredCowSlayer on April 17th, 2017, 1:25 pm

The below quoted by ICfreely:

Confessions of a Medical Heretic (Ch. 7: The Devil’s Priests) - Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D.

Suicide accounts for more deaths among doctors than car and plane crashes, drownings, and homicides combined. Doctors’ suicide rate is twice the average for all white Americans. Every year, about 100 doctors commit suicide, a number equal to the graduating class of the average medical school. Furthermore, the suicide rate among female physicians is neatly four times higher than that for other women over age twenty-five.

Apologists for the medical profession cite several reasons for doctors’ high rate of sickness. The drugs are easily available to them; they must work long hours under severe stress; their background and psychological makeup predisposes them to stretch their powers to the limits; and their patients and the community make excessive demands on them. Of course, whether or not you accept these reasons, they don’t explain away the fact that doctors are a very sick group of people.

Nonetheless, I prefer to look for more reasons. Fraud and corruption in the research process comes as no surprise to anyone who witnesses the lengths to which drug and formula companies go to doctors to their way of thinking. Free dinners, cocktails, conventions, and subsidized research fellowships still are only superficial explanations. When you examine the psychological and moral climate of Modern Medicine, you begin to get closer to understanding why doctors are so unhealthy.

Medical politics, for example, is a cutthroat power game of the most primitive sort. I much prefer political politics, because there you have the art of the possible, which means you have to compromise. Medical politics is the art of sheer power. There is no compromise: you go right for the jugular vein before your own is torn out. There’s no room for compromise because churches never compromise on canon law. Instead of a relatively open process in which people with different interests get together to try to get the most out of the situation that they can, in medical politics there is a rigid authoritarian power structure which can be moved only through winner-take-all power plays. Historically, doctors who have dared to change things significantly have been ostracized and have had to sacrifice their careers in order to hold to their ideas. Few doctors are willing to do either.

http://www.whale.to/c/devilspriests.html


Thank you ICfreely for this post. I think there's something to the idea that certain types of people don't like jumping through countless hoops (with delusions of nobility and such) only to find out they are expected to legitimize a total fraud (that they couldn't see beforehand, naturally).

I don't see much distinction between the medical field and the legal field (or political) in this regard. Even the "art of the possible" usually (always?) serves to prop up something that is phony to begin with.

The way I often describe the conundrum is by saying that "one must find a way to make living, while being able to live with himself. Try and find that balance." And yet I find myself gravely dissatisfied with that admonition.

So, in a good faith effort to Not Derail this topic, I'll say that the Disease being Engineered (by the institutions) is the systematic elevation of Psychopaths to power (not exclusive to the medical field by any means), and the feeling of Despair created in those with a conscience.

The latter group then has the problem compounded by the fact that the Psychopaths in the former group have the power to label anyone they wish as having some kind of disorder, and thus not to be taken too seriously.

I recall an article I read about how Psychiatry has this very nasty cycle of chewing up and spitting out any challengers within its community. I'll have to find it and post as soon as I get a chance.

It occurred to me one day in court (probably 7 years ago) when I heard a CPS (in Texas it's the Child Protection Agency :rolleyes:) worker describe a parent as having "Oppositional Defiant Disorder". After a quick search on this "disorder" it was abundantly clear what was going on. So I set about to see for myself, and I was completely Unsurprised to see nothing more than the heavy hand of cruel and nonsensical "diagnosis" being used to control and/or punish people.

Perhaps this Disease (tactic) should be explored further, since it can be used across the board, regardless of the institution involved. It's thought provoking nonetheless.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby ICfreely on April 19th, 2017, 10:30 pm

SacredCowSlayer wrote:

So, in a good faith effort to Not Derail this topic, I'll say that the Disease being Engineered (by the institutions) is the systematic elevation of Psychopaths to power (not exclusive to the medical field by any means), and the feeling of Despair created in those with a conscience.


Thank you, SCS. I thought the point of this topic was to provide practical/useful information for people to implement in the here & now. I'd like to think I, in my own small way, have done just that, instead of wasting time debating what may or may not have evolved into what.

I don't see much distinction between the medical field and the legal field (or political) in this regard. Even the "art of the possible" usually (always?) serves to prop up something that is phony to begin with.


Neither do I, SCS. Darwinism reigns supreme!

"In my years of teaching in medical school, I had come to realize that medical students in an academic setting are more competitive and backbiting than a truckload of lawyers. They live out the Darwinian struggle in their quest to be one of the ‘fittest’ who stagger to graduation after four grueling years in medical school. The single-minded pursuit of stellar medical school grades, without regard for the students surrounding you, no doubt follows a Darwinian model, but it always seemed to me an ironic pursuit for those who are striving to become compassionate healers."
--Bruce Lipton, PhD
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby McKoga on April 20th, 2017, 8:18 pm

patrix » April 16th, 2017, 3:50 pm wrote:Thank you Hoi. This concerns and frustrates me a great deal. The medical/nutrition area is in my opinion a place where "they've got us good" and I recommend everyone to research it. You people know how much propaganda and disinformation there are and don't for a second think that this area has been excluded. Quite the opposite. And the game is as simple as it is evil - Make us sick through nutrition/medicine/lifestyle without us suspecting and make money out of it.


I agree. Health foods are bad for you.

Lentils, unsaturated fats, and salads...no bueno.

Statins don't work, SSRIs turn you into a zombie, etc etc
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby fbenario on April 22nd, 2017, 2:29 am

McKoga » April 20th, 2017, 3:18 pm wrote:
I agree. Health foods are bad for you.

Lentils, unsaturated fats, and salads...no bueno.

Statins don't work, SSRIs turn you into a zombie, etc etc

Salads are bad for you? Lettuces, tomatoes, beets, etc.? Certainly never heard that before.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby sharpstuff on April 22nd, 2017, 4:10 am

Dear fbenario,

Perhaps McKoga and Patrix are 'into' engineering disease?
Providing some viable and tangible evidence would be good.

I couldn't believe what I just read.

I'm not sure I like the way this thread is heading with these sort of unfounded remarks.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby dblitz on April 22nd, 2017, 10:21 pm

Dude, you made me laugh so hard I think I hurt a muscle or something! I've been doing this since the mid 90's, and encouraging salad consumption as a means to achieve world domination has never been a subject of discussion as far as I can remember (although onions and garlic have been unfairly slandered in some circles.)
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby sharpstuff on April 24th, 2017, 12:46 pm

Re: Engineering 'disease'

dblitz wrote:

Postby dblitz on April 22nd, 2017, 10:21 pm
Dude, you made me laugh so hard I think I hurt a muscle or something! I've been doing this since the mid 90's, and encouraging salad consumption as a means to achieve world domination has never been a subject of discussion as far as I can remember (although onions and garlic have been unfairly slandered in some circles.)

To whom are you referring with 'Dude'?

And who are 'you' and who made you laugh?

What is the 'this you been doing this since the mid '90's'?

Your comment/s make no sense to a sentient being. What exactly about which are you talking?

Have you got anything useful to say?

I started this thread to expose the Fantasy/Nonsense Tales that the so-called 'medical profession' has imposed upon us mortals. The hienous crimes that have been perpetrated upon us humans since antiquity based upon the desire to subjugate their (whomsoever they are) will-to-power (Nietzsche) only shows the power that they have over those who have not their own mind.

The socio/psychopaths invented 'vaccination/innoculation' based on no verifiable data and from a 'chemist' who had no background in physiological processes. These people invented virtual and definite castration of males via circumcision and vaccination and all the other perils of life such as ultra-sound for determining the perhaps sex of a child before birth and most of the other abominations that prevail (the list is endless).

I agree all these are contentious subjects but they must be explored as far as possible.

When you have had to teach these mites (young children) you would realise the dangers of these alleged preventions to norrmal growth (that is, without intervention form those who pretend to know more than a natural mother or father), then you may have a say in the matter if you can provide verifiable evidence.

I would remind you that this is not an anti-social network site.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby dblitz on April 24th, 2017, 1:28 pm

Well, I really did laugh when I read that salads and health foods were bad.

I was referring to these lines:
I agree. Health foods are bad for you.

Lentils, unsaturated fats, and salads...no bueno.

Statins don't work, SSRIs turn you into a zombie, etc etc


in McKoga's post.

Perhaps I misunderstood what he was saying. Perhaps you thought I was referring to your post, in which it appeared you did the same as me and questioned those remarks.

My post was dumb, I admit. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, really.

Maybe I've been reading too many Youtube comments.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby patrix on April 24th, 2017, 1:42 pm

dblitz » April 24th, 2017, 1:28 pm wrote:Well, I really did laugh when I read that salads and health foods were bad.

I was referring to these lines:
I agree. Health foods are bad for you.

Lentils, unsaturated fats, and salads...no bueno.

Statins don't work, SSRIs turn you into a zombie, etc etc


in McKoga's post.

Perhaps I misunderstood what he was saying. Perhaps you thought I was referring to your post, in which it appeared you did the same as me and questioned those remarks.

My post was dumb, I admit. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, really.

Maybe I've been reading too many Youtube comments.


No worries. No offence from me at least. :) But I do like the concept of keeping the "chit chat" low in the threads. Here's a reply I have authored and came here to post just now.

Lol. No sorry. I’m not a disease engineer of the Nutwork, but if I was, this is how I would go about doing my work:
Find out what makes people stay healthy and have the the Nutwork propaganda and social engineering machine convince us that the opposite is true.
Design foods, psyence and treatments that might improve symptoms of the resulting health problems but who’s main objective is to induce various other problems and diseases and again use propaganda and social engineering to convince us of their effectiveness. Sounds simple but how might they have achieved this? We know for example that the so called western diseases (obesity, diabetes, cancer, dementia and osteoporosis) are rampant today. Allow me to speculate:

In the 50s a researcher by the name of Ancel Keys, whom I suspect was a real chief disease engineer, went to the Mediterranean to study why people was so healthy in that region. And I think his key findings (pardon the pun) where the following:
A diet rich in animal fat from fish, dairy and meat.
Less of grains and sugar.
Fasting periods – no breakfast and periods of fasting during the year.
Lots of sunlight (vitamin D),
An overall stress free lifestyle and siesta.

This is not what you may have heard from his research and that is of course intentional. Keys job as chief disease engineer was to convince the world that the exact opposite of these findings where true and have the Nutwork propaganda machine working all levels to make ordinary folks stay away from this healthy formula.

I also suspect Disney played a part in the social engineering. By making cartoons that show that animals have souls and feelings, we engineer a generation that will naturally stay away from animal foods. This might be far fetched but duck fat was common in the early 20th century and might have played a part in the invention of Donald Duck. And today media shows us how meat and dairy production is immoral and harmful to the environment and our health in all sorts of ways. Could this be intentional?

The next step was to design a harmful replacement for animal fat – processed vegetable oils. Through a process called hydrogenation the Nutwork made various toxic vegetable oils stable and had their propaganda machine promote them. Crisco is one of the more well known products. The first incarnations of these products was loaded with so called trans fats that are able to quickly break down the cardio vascular system. And lo and behold, heart attacks was rampant in the 60s.

Keys himself made up some bogus research and started promoting the dangers of saturated fat and cholesterol. In order to avoid the increasing problem of heart disease, people should stay away from foods rich in saturated fat and cholesterol and instead choose unsaturated fats he preached. And the propaganda machine put him on the cover of Time magazine. Lots of tax money was funnelled into gigantic studies like the Framingham study that was cleverly designed to hide the fact that not only was the diseases invented, but that the proposed cure was in fact the disease.

Expensive, dangerous, invasive heart surgery was also promoted as a way to cure something that in reality is the effect of a low intake of healthy stable animal fats combined with a high intake of vegetable oils, starch and sugar.

Then we have Statins or cholesterol lowering drugs. Cholesterol is the building block of our cells. Our body can handle reasonable amounts of vegetable oils, starch and sugar, but if the oxidative stress and thus cell damage becomes too high because of them the body will increase the amount of cholesterol in the blood stream because it is needed to repair the damage. To impair this vital function with a cholesterol lowering poison/drug will of course lead to problems.

I could go on explaining how these oils disrupts our hormones and cause obesity and diabetes.

Then we have veganism. This is a very deceptive and clever move by the Nutwork to socially engineer us into because veganism IS healthy, but only for a while. It has the same positive effect as fasting. It makes the digestive system relax and autophagy to kick in. But eventually the malnutrition resulting from the non existing intake of animal fats will take its toll. It can take years, even decades, but eventually brain fog, dementia, muscle loss, hair loss, cavities, osteoporosis will be the result. And many vegetables are in fact not healthy at all. And the great thing with slowly cooking the frogs like this, and have positive reinforcement in the beginning, is that most vegans will not try to solve their problems by quitting veganism. They will instead do more of what makes them sick.

I could go on with talking about for example sun screen that together with our low animal fat intake gives us vitamin D insufficiency and cancer, but I’ll leave at this for now.

References you ask for. Well there are actually quite a lot of research that I could argue support my speculations, but I’m afraid nobody in their right mind and of sound morals could conceive a scenario like this to be true. It’s like arguing 3 thousand or 6 million deaths in some historic event has never occurred, but is an intentional lie.
Below are a few references I find interesting, but there are probably more that supports other views which would be expected if this is a focus area of the Nutwork.

So, are we still laughing? :)

http://superhumanradio.com/shr-2005-sci ... -beef.html

http://superhumanradio.com/media/DL/The ... s-v1_1.pdf

Youtube - The Greatest American Lies - The Oiling of America and Heart Disease

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ0WJOQzrgg
Youtube - AHS12 Georgia Ede MD Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdRBFiBWQZQ
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby HonestlyNow on April 24th, 2017, 3:04 pm

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Patrix, do you have no comment on this?
HonestlyNow » December 30th, 2016, 6:37 pm wrote:
patrix wrote:
HonestlyNow wrote:Patrix,
I see that you don't recognize (as most people do not recognize) that we are a frugivore species. Spend time at the YouTube channel robertmorsend for ahead-of-the-curve learning.

Or I have a better eye for science fakery and this cultural engineering than you have.

If you have an eye for fakery in this instance, the instance being the teachings from the robertmorsend channel, please show and/or tell me what is being faked.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby patrix on April 24th, 2017, 3:29 pm

HonestlyNow » April 24th, 2017, 3:04 pm wrote:*
Patrix, do you have no comment on this?

No comment no. And I don’t want this thread to turn into a mudslinging contest between omnivores and vegans. Some of my best friends are vegans and I respect them, but I also believe them to be wrong and that veganism/vegetarianism is a successful psyop that is not supported by real science.
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby HonestlyNow on April 24th, 2017, 5:17 pm

patrix » April 24th, 2017, 9:29 am wrote:No comment no. And I don’t want this thread to turn into a mudslinging contest between omnivores and vegans. Some of my best friends are vegans and I respect them, but I also believe them to be wrong and that veganism/vegetarianism is a successful psyop that is not supported by real science.

Awesome. And the frugivores? Where does the frugivore fit into your belief system?
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby HonestlyNow on April 24th, 2017, 5:37 pm

patrix » April 24th, 2017, 7:42 am wrote:I also suspect Disney played a part in the social engineering. By making cartoons that show that animals have souls and feelings, we engineer a generation that will naturally stay away from animal foods.

In my experience, almost every person that I come across eats meats and thinks that they need to have their dead animal products. (I live in the U.S. and I grew up with Disney in the media.)
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Re: Engineering 'disease'

Postby dblitz on April 24th, 2017, 10:14 pm

Good post above Patrix, I agree with you.

Dr Weston Price, a dentist working in the 1930's studied the diets of traditional cultures and came to the same conclusions. He looked at healthy populations with the following characteristics:

Less than 1% of tooth decay

Teeth perfectly straight and white, high dental arches and well formed facial features

None of them had ever used a toothbrush

Little to no incidences of diseases common to modern western cultures - cancer, heart disease, diabetes, hemorrhoids, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue syndrome

The following quote is from this article: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/01/21/weston-price.aspx A good introduction to Dr Prices research.

For example, the Swiss mountain villagers subsisted primarily on unpasteurized and cultured dairy products, especially butter and cheese. Rye also formed an integral part of their diet. Occasionally, they ate meat (beef) as cows in their herds got older. Small amounts of bone broths, vegetables and berries rounded out the diet. Due to the high altitude, not much vegetation grew. The villagers would eat what they could in the short summer months, and pickle what was left over for the winter. The main foods, however, were full fat cheese, butter, and rye bread.

Gaelic fisher people of the Outer Hebrides ate no dairy products, but instead had their fill of cod and other sea foods, especially shell fish (when in season). Due to the poor soil, the only grain that could grow was oat, and it formed a major part of the diet. A traditional dish, one considered very important for growing children and expectant mothers, was cod's head stuffed with oats and mashed fish liver. Again, due to the extremely inhospitable climate, fruits and vegetables grew sparsely. Price noted that a young Gaelic girl reeled in puzzlement when offered an apple: she had never seen one!

Eskimo, or Innu, ate a diet of almost 100% animal products with hefty amounts of fish. Walrus and seal, and other marine mammals also formed an integral part of the diet. Blubber (fat) was consumed with relish. Innu would gather nuts, berries, and some grasses during the short summer months, but their diet was basically all meat and fat. Price noted that the Innu would usually ferment their meat before eating it. That is, they would bury it and allow it to slightly putrefy before consuming it. Innu would also eat the partially digested grasses of caribou by cutting open their stomachs and intestines.

The Maori of New Zealand, along with other South sea islanders, consumed sea food of every sort - fish, shark, octopus, sea worms, shellfish - along with fatty pork and a wide variety of plant foods including coconut and fruit.

African cattle-keeping tribes like the Masai consumed virtually no plant foods at all, just beef, raw milk, organ meats, and blood (in times of drought).
The Dinkas of the Sudan, whom Price claimed were the healthiest of all the African tribes he studied, ate a combination of fermented whole grains with fish, along with smaller amounts of red meat, vegetables, and fruit. The Bantu, on the other hand, the least hardy of the African tribes studied, were primarily agriculturists. Their diet consisted mostly of beans, squash, corn, millet, vegetables, and fruits, with small amounts of milk and meat. Price never found a totally vegetarian culture. Modern anthropological data support this: all cultures and peoples show a preference for animal foods and animal fat.

Hunter-gatherer peoples in Northern Canada, the Florida Everglades, the Amazon, and Australia, consumed game animals of all types, especially the organ meats, and a variety of grains, legumes, tubers, vegetables, and fruits when available.

Price noted that all peoples, except the Innu, consumed insects and their larvae. Obviously in more tropical areas, insects formed a more integral part of the diet. Price noted that: The natives of Africa know that certain insects are very rich in special food values at certain seasons, also that their eggs are valuable foods. A fly that hatches in enormous quantities in Lake Victoria is gathered and used fresh and dried for storage. They also use ant eggs and ants. Bees, wasps, dragonflies, beetles, crickets, cicadas, moths, and termites were consumed with zest also, particularly in Africa.
Price also noted that all cultures consumed fermented foods each day. Foods such as cheese, cultured butter, yogurt, or fermented grain drinks like kaffir beer (made from millet) in Africa, or fermented fish as with the Innu were an important part of native diets.

Curiously, all native peoples studied made great efforts to obtain seafood, especially fish roe which was consumed so that we will have healthy children. Even mountain dwelling peoples would make semiannual trips to the sea to bring back seaweeds, fish eggs, and dried fish. Shrimp, rich in both cholesterol and vitamin D, was a standard food in many places, from Africa to the Orient.

The last major feature of native diets that Price found was that they were rich in fat, especially animal fat. Whether from insects, eggs, fish, game animals, or domesticated herds, primitive peoples knew that they would get sick if they did not consume enough fat. Explorers besides Dr. Price have also found this to be true.

For example, anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson, who lived for years among the Innu and Northern Canadian Indians, specifically noted how the Indians would go out of their way to hunt down older male caribou for they carried a 50 pound slab of back fat. When such animals were unavailable and Indians were forced to subsist on rabbits, a very lean animal, diarrhea and hunger would set in after about a week. The human body needs saturated fat to assimilate and utilize proteins and saturated animal fats contain high amounts of the fat soluble vitamins, as well as beneficial fatty acids with antimicrobial properties.

Of course, the foods that Price's subjects ate were natural and unprocessed. Their foods did not contain preservatives, additives, or colorings. They did not contain added sugar (though, when available, natural sweets like honey and maple syrup were eaten in moderation). They did not contain white flour or canned foods. Their milk products were not pasteurized, homogenized, or low fat. The animal and plant foods consumed were raised and grown on pesticide-free soil and were not given growth hormones or antibiotics. In short, these people always ate organic.


Western price Foundation: https://www.westonaprice.org/
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