The MOON HOAX

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Re: The Photo with the Mostest

Postby fbenario on September 13th, 2016, 12:48 am

ISawThatToo » September 10th, 2016, 3:50 am wrote:An American citizen, not US subject.

Why have you ended each of your posts with a meaningless phrase that sounds like a reference to the nonsensical Sovereign Citizen 'movement'?
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby Flabbergasted on September 17th, 2016, 2:50 pm

I haven´t seen "Operation Avalanche", but it´s not hard to guess why they made it.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uE4ik3wz3Y

Also: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3776826/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Production Companies: XYZ Films, Resolute Films and Entertainment, Zapruder Films
Distributors: Ascot Elite Entertainment Group, Vice Films, Central Park Films, Falcon Films, Lionsgate.
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby Tufa on September 17th, 2016, 6:03 pm

On the "Moon Hoax", a real gem is the Moonwalk One The Director’s Cut. I show it for my son (13 years), that is accustomed to modern digital-fake action movies. Nice expression on his face, when the model, hang in a thread, try to act natural ...Funny ...

... that, as time passes, material made to Support Official Story change, so it disproves Official Story ...
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby SacredCowSlayer on September 17th, 2016, 7:13 pm

Flabbergasted » September 17th, 2016, 8:50 am wrote:I haven´t seen "Operation Avalanche", but it´s not hard to guess why they made it.

Also: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3776826/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Production Companies: XYZ Films, Resolute Films and Entertainment, Zapruder Films
Distributors: Ascot Elite Entertainment Group, Vice Films, Central Park Films, Falcon Films, Lionsgate.


Priceless line from the Trailer above:

"If we can convince mission control. . . then everyone else will follow." :lol:

TRANSLATION (for those readers that need it spelled out):

Oh yea! NASA, space travel, and satellites are all totally real. But maybe they (small handful of dark agents) fudged (or tried to) Apollo 11. . . a little. The rest, and everything else, is legit.
Also, this demonstrates how impossible it is to fake a big news event. The system protects itself, and the public at large, from such corruption. :rolleyes:


True, Flabbergasted, it's Not Hard (at all) To Guess Why They Made It.
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby SmokingGunII on September 17th, 2016, 10:07 pm

Has anyone asked NASA if they have a photo that shows the horizon on the moon further than 100 yards away? :D

As for the "whistleblowing" Operation Avalanche - I wouldn't trust the motives of a company behind Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11.
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby antipodean on September 18th, 2016, 11:21 am

SmokingGunII » September 18th, 2016, 9:07 am wrote:Has anyone asked NASA if they have a photo that shows the horizon on the moon further than 100 yards away? :D


How about this, one of Buzz's favorites a pic that Neil took of Buzz.
https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/ ... 5471688704

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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby SmokingGunII on September 18th, 2016, 2:14 pm

Classic, isn't it Antipodean?!

50 yards behind him and looking in the visor reflection 50 yards in front of him. :D :D :D

Houston, we have a problem....
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby Flabbergasted on September 18th, 2016, 5:14 pm

antipodean wrote:How about this, one of Buzz's favorites ...

The real problem with that picture is the fall-off of the reflector ("fixed" by NASA in the 2011 version), but this has been pointed out by others.
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But it would seem we are up for a much better visual treat with the new mini-series MARS.
The year is 2033, and mankind's first manned mission to Mars is about to become reality. This is the story of how we make Mars home, told by the pioneers making it possible. MARS, a Global Miniseries Event, premieres this November on National Geographic.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/m ... trailer-2/
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby antipodean on September 19th, 2016, 7:53 am

SmokingGunII » September 19th, 2016, 1:14 am wrote:Classic, isn't it Antipodean?!

50 yards behind him and looking in the visor reflection 50 yards in front of him. :D :D :D

Houston, we have a problem....


Also in the centre of the reflection in the visor, the white up right figure appears to be another astronot, yet Buzz credits Neil with taking the picture.
Is it me but most pictures taken on the moon seem to portray some kind of curvature.
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby hoi.polloi on July 13th, 2017, 8:31 pm

As they still try to squeeze what they can from the poor patriotic liars of the Apollo silliness (and other fibs of the era), we might see more articles like this one:

http://www.startribune.com/moon-dust-co ... 434201733/

(from Associated Press, no comments thusfar ...)


NEW YORK — Moon dust that Neil Armstrong collected during the first lunar landing was displayed Thursday at a New York auction house — a symbol of America's glory days in space now valued at $2 million to $4 million.

The late astronaut brought the dust and some tiny rocks back to Earth in an ordinary-looking bag.


What does an "ordinary" bag look like? Is that a bit like an ordinary black velvet top hat?

It's one of 180 lots linked to space travel that Sotheby's is auctioning off July 20 to mark the 48th anniversary of the pioneer lunar landing on that date in 1969.

The moon dust is the first sample of Earth's satellite ever collected.

The bag has had a storied existence, a decades-long trajectory during which it was misidentified and nearly landed in the trash. About two years ago, it appeared


Abra cadabra!

in a seized assets auction staged [Is this the best word? -hoi.polloi] on behalf of the U.S. Marshals Service. The owner, whose name has not been made public, purchased the treasure and sent it to NASA for testing.

After a legal tussle, a federal judge granted the owner full rights over the curiosity.


I really would like to know if this sounds like an "ordinary" legal case or if it is just trying to appear "ordinary looking".

Other items on the block are Armstrong's snapshot of fellow Apollo 11 astronaut "Buzz" Aldrin standing on the moon, with an estimated value of $3,000 to $5,000.

A documented flight plan astronauts used to return to Earth is valued at $25,000 to $35,000.

In a photo valued at $2,000 to $3,000, astronaut Gene Cernan from Apollo 17 is seen rolling around in the lunar rover through a valley on the moon.

Capping the sale is a touch of humor: The Snoopy astronaut doll that was the mascot of the Apollo 10 crew, at an estimated pre-sale price of $2,000 to $3,000.


Yes, "a touch of humor" that is drier than a tumbleweed — Snoopy being a reference to a comic strip by the manic depressive Charles Schultz. The least funny thing about this entire string of "facts", it seems to me. But alright, to each their own "humor" I guess?

Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon. He died in 2012 in Ohio.

The first human to venture into outer space was Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, who orbited Earth in a spacecraft in April 1961.

Gagarin's description of the planet — translated from Russian — is being offered as part of his observations on being in space. His in-depth report, translated into English, has an estimated value of $50,000 to $80,000.

Calling it "a magnificent picture," he wrote: "The Earth had a very distinct and pretty blue halo. This halo could be clearly seen when looking at the horizon. It had a smooth transition from pale blue to blue, dark blue, violent and absolutely black."


What could they mean by "blue [to] violent [to] black"? Just a typo, right? And not some hint about the impossibility of space travel ... surely!

Even funnier is this article about "Today in Spa[aaaaaa]ce [!!!!!!!]" from our lovely friends at
spacecom.GIF

(logo roughly paraphrased)

Welcome to "Today in Space," where we peer back in our archives to find historic moments in spaceflight and astronomy. So enjoy a blast from the past with Space.com's Hanneke Weitering to look back at what happened on this day in space!

On July 13, 1969, the Soviet Union launched its Luna 15 spacecraft on a mission to the moon. Luna 15 was a robotic sample return mission sent to retrieve some lunar soil and bring it back to Earth.

It launched just three days before Apollo 11, which brought the first astronauts to the lunar surface. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin beat actually Luna 15 to the moon by about 20 hours. Talk about a space race!

Just a few minutes after the Soviet spacecraft began its descent on July 21, Luna 15 unexpectedly crashed into a mountain and stopped transmitting data back to mission control.

And that's what happened today in space!

- https://www.space.com/37183-today-in-space.html

By the way, this bit is so short, the word "space" makes up about 4% of the article's content. But you have to see the accompanying image for its full comedic effect:

space thinger.jpg


Astounding, what man accomplished in the 1960's! (The bogus head trips, that is!) Are they sure this creature "crashed into a mountain" and didn't amble over the crater side to graze on some metallic moon grass? (It appears as though it even brought its own condiments!)
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby simonshack on July 14th, 2017, 12:47 am

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Absolutely priceless - or should I say "lunatic" - information, dear Hoi ! :P

Of all the tasty "LUNA landers" though, this kettle HAS to be my favorite ! Goulash? Yummy!

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Btw, did you know that several dozens LUNA landers were apparently sent to the MOOON by our crafty Russian friends?

http://www.lunarland.com/luna-moon-missions/

I do recommend everyone to read all the achievements of these wondrous scientific enterprises... best of all, that very last one (planned for 2009):

Luna Glob
Future orbiter / soft lander / 12 penetrators (Russia)
Launch: planned for 2009

This ambitious mission includes an orbiter, lander, and penetrators that will set up a seismic network on the Moon.

Sadly, a much-postponed ambitious Russian space mission, I see : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna-Glob :(


And hey, folks! That same website has some Lunar real estate for sale! Hmmm, I might give it a thought - finances permitting. -_-

Lunar Land's Legal Right To Offer Moon Land
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"The UN Outer Space Treaty of 1967 stipulates that no government can own extraterrestrial property. However, it neglects to mention individuals and corporations. Therefore, under laws dating back to early US settlers, it is possible to stake a claim for land that has been surveyed by registering with the US Office of Claim Registries.

BEWARE of other phony 'Lunar' companies selling Moon property. They may seem legitimate, but the Lunar Land company has been THE WORLDS MOST RECOGNIZED CELESTIAL REAL ESTATE AGENCY to possess a legal trademark and copyright for the sale of extraterrestrial property within the confines of our solar system for decades."


http://www.lunarland.com/about-us


Good grief. The silliness of it all is quite astronomical. :rolleyes:
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby sharpstuff on July 23rd, 2017, 12:57 pm

My apologies for posting this without personal comment but I found it interesting for the posterity of this thread.

I have not looked into all the why's and wherefore's as I am engaged in my own activities at the present (OCR'ing 50 year old books I have written into printed and bound copies).

Perhaps those who are not so engaged in other activities might like to review these.

My data comes from one of the very few media sites that I look at:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=155040

Did Elon Musk just confirm that the moon landings were faked?

Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-2 ... were-faked
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby Flabbergasted on July 27th, 2017, 4:08 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:
On July 13, 1969, the Soviet Union launched its Luna 15 spacecraft on a mission to the moon. Luna 15 was a robotic sample return mission sent to retrieve some lunar soil and bring it back to Earth.
It launched just three days before Apollo 11, which brought the first astronauts to the lunar surface. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin beat actually Luna 15 to the moon by about 20 hours. Talk about a space race!


The British TV series "Space: 1999" about the brave residents of Moonbase Alpha (1975-77) actually designed spacecraft props more believable than Luna 15 and assorted NASA kettles.

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Damn, I was mesmerized by those programs when I was a boy! Now they just look cheesy and gawky.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072564/
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby agraposo on July 27th, 2017, 11:21 pm

sharpstuff » 23 Jul 2017, 13:57 wrote:My apologies for posting this without personal comment but I found it interesting for the posterity of this thread.

I have not looked into all the why's and wherefore's as I am engaged in my own activities at the present (OCR'ing 50 year old books I have written into printed and bound copies).

Perhaps those who are not so engaged in other activities might like to review these.

My data comes from one of the very few media sites that I look at:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=155040

Did Elon Musk just confirm that the moon landings were faked?

Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-2 ... were-faked

That article refers to a good study showing that the lunar mountains in the photographic record are not miles away, based on parallax, proving that the pictures were taken in a studio.

http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

In my opinion, when a rocket moves against the clouds in the sky background in the rocket launch videos, that also proves that the video is not real. See for example:

@ 0:30, 0:35, 0:37, 0:40 ...

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kZ84t1bRQ

And more recently:

@ 0:58

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ibwiNRZiU
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Re: The MOON HOAX

Postby simonshack on July 28th, 2017, 12:39 am

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Dear Agraposo...

If anything, their more recent, "high-definition" rocket launch animations are getting sillier and sillier :

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Back in the 50's and 60's they at least TRIED to make them look slightly realistic.
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