Discussing Miles W. Mathis

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Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby brianv on March 22nd, 2017, 1:47 pm



It doesn't take much working out given the topic and this poster's position.

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So; your average politician or media type/news reporter or civil servant. Can be extended to include "royal personages", "NASA-spokespersons" etc etc.
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Re: Deconstructing Miles W. Mathis

Postby kickstones on May 22nd, 2017, 12:41 pm

Seneca » March 20th, 2017, 7:57 am wrote:
Seneca » 18 Feb 2017, 13:23 wrote:Some background info:
https://pieceofmindful.com is apparently a website started by Mark Tokarski. Mark is a supporter of Judy Wood. https://pieceofmindful.com/tag/dr-judy-wood/
and Miles Mathis and claims to have been one of his conference. Some of the posters that were defending Miles on this forum are active there (Daddie_o, Vexman). After the Hitler paper Miles wrote about the website, distanced himself from it and criticized some of their work."


I have to correct myself. Since the end of 2016, Mark Tokarski has distanced himself from Judy Wood, who he now calls controlled opposition. He does that in a rather spooky way which reminds me of M.M.'s treatment of Alex Jones. (He still links to A.J's webpage).



I had a quick look on M.M link page, but was unable to find the link, I know he recently did a piece on David Icke and A.J was mentioned in relation to controlled opposition, maybe he has removed the link or I missed it in my haste?

From the article....

"Ask yourself this: why would Wogan have him on, and why would Wogan allow Icke to have the upper hand? These shows are completely staged, and Wogan and his people were in control. They could have edited the show any way they liked. So why run promotion for Icke? And, of course, they did a similar thing with Alex Jones on Piers Morgan a few years later."


http://mileswmathis.com/icke.pdf
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby simonshack on June 6th, 2018, 7:43 pm

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Seems like this guy isn't quite happy with the Miles Mathis character. I have to say he has some pretty good reasons for it...



full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5yZVC6lDs
Note: I've just bumped into this DraftScience Youtube channel - so I know nothing about it. In time, I will check out this guy's theories though. I'm only posting this video for its first 5 minutes - where this honest / legit-sounding fellow describes (in colorful language - *PARENTAL ADVISORY*!) the sort of dreadfully lame & childish personality attacks our Mathis character engages in.

Here's MM's paper titled: "IF YOU RUN PROJECTS AGAINST ME I WILL OUT YOU and Everyone Around You" (July 2, 2017): http://mileswmathis.com/hutt.pdf

I'll soon be closing this thread - for good reasons, as it is most likely just a waste of time (looks like our dear ol' Brianv had it right all along...).

See, out of sheer curiosity perhaps (I must be a bit naive, dammit!), I mailed to the Miles Mathis e-mail address a courtesy copy of my TYCHOS book - a couple of months ago. Still, to this day, no reply. Was I expecting a reply? Well, at least something like: "Hey, thanks Simon - but your theory is way over my head" - or "thanks Simon, but I've no time to read your book - am just too busy debunking Einstein right now" - or perhaps just something like "please do not send me unsolicited books, thank you." That is, if Miles were a nice, mature and educated gentleman - just like myself... After all, don't we both deal with alternative science and ideas about this "upside-down world" that we all live in?

Instead, total silence /*crickets*. Miles Mathis simply has no time for me - yet he has time to "attack" alternative researchers such as the above fellow.

Well, not exactly "total": as it is, that "Mark Tokarski" character actually wrote a few weeks ago (over at Fakeologist) that Mathis had told him, in private, that yes indeed - he had received my TYCHOS PDF book alright... but had just thrown it in the trash without looking at it. Fantastic, no? What an open-minded "renaissance scientist" we have here! I have no wish to feed fuel to the fire around the extremely hyped Miles Mathis character - other than saying: there's no fire. It's just dust.
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby Undoctored on June 7th, 2018, 2:17 am

simonshack » June 6th, 2018, 11:43 am wrote:I mailed to the Miles Mathis e-mail address a courtesy copy of my TYCHOS book - a couple of months ago. Still, to this day, no reply.

Are you using Miles's current email address? If you used the one from your previous correspondence from 2016 the letter probably didn’t get to him, as he changed it in October 2017 “to deal with a greater volume of spamming, trolls, and cyber attacks,” saying “Emails to my old addresses may not get read.” I would check his contact page to make sure you have his current address.

simonshack » June 6th, 2018, 11:43 am wrote:that "Mark Tokarski" character actually wrote a few weeks ago (over at Fakeologist) that Mathis had told him, in private, that yes indeed - he had received my TYCHOS PDF book alright... but had just thrown it in the trash without looking at it.

In light of Tokarski's recent campaign to discredit Miles Mathis on his “Piece of Mindful” site, where Miles is called a “committee” and his admirers a “cult” I would not trust anything Tokarski says about him.
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby simonshack on June 7th, 2018, 8:31 am

Dear Undoctored,

Yes, I had read that notice about his new mail address - so that's where I sent it. As for Tokarski, there's no way he could have known about me sending it (unless, as he claims, MM told him about it) - or unless he has psychic powers: I've never told anyone / mentioned publicly that I did (until yesterday, in my above post). Come to think of it, it's rather odd that MM would have informed Tokarski about it - or maybe it isn't? Go figure...
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby kickstones on June 7th, 2018, 11:06 am

simonshack » June 6th, 2018, 7:43 pm wrote:*

I'll soon be closing this thread - for good reasons, as it is most likely just a waste of time (looks like our dear ol' Brianv had it right all along...).



Dear Simon, maybe it a better idea to leave it open for the simple reason having it open actually may bring traffic to this site.

Let me explain a little.

On a recent post on MM update page he was glowing in self-praise due to someone emailing him this below...

More for my Critics and allies
June 2, 2018

Russell Tropinsky just sent me an email, and it included this info:

“According to this website’s stats https://www.similarweb.com/website/mileswmathis.com, you have the 323rd most visited website on the topic of “arts and entertainment”, rank 91,900 of all sites in the United States, and rank 299,630 in the entire world. That is just incredible, Miles. In January, 2018 there were over 1.8 billion websites in existence. That puts your website in the 99.999999997 percentile of global rank. Just thought you might like that. Now, add in the fact that you you receive absolutely no support from the mainstream, in fact you are actively campaigned against, and I think that likely bumps you up to the top 10, because the other websites have financial support to artificially inflate their ranking. That’s rather impressive, mate.”


http://mileswmathis.com/jackboot.pdf

Whilst not familar with the site used to measure his stats I am familar with Alexa and I am aware it is owned by Amazon so easily open to manipilation, nonetheless I thought it would be interesting to carry out a comparison of the two sites (CF/ MM) and if indeed the above stats have any reasonble comparison.

MM states, from the above post I tried to look at stats many years ago at Alexa, but they wanted money to see them so I passed. I didn't know about these free stats.

Yes, that is true to a certain extent while you have to subscribe for a detailed analysis on Alexa they do give an overall picture of visitors to the site for free

Here's what came up.....

milesmathis.com Traffic Statistics
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/milesmathis.com


Global Rank 490,655
Rank in United States 374,746


Audience Geography

Where are this site's visitors located?

Visitors by Country

Country Percent of Visitors Rank in Country
United States 36.1% 374,746
South Africa 11.1% 48,342
Kazakhstan 2.3% 109,611

How engaged are visitors to milesmathis.com?

Bounce Rate*
75.90%
Daily Pageviews per Visitor
1.50
Daily Time on Site
1:59

What sites link to milesmathis.com?
Total Sites Linking In 217

What sites are related to milesmathis.com?
Similar Websites by Audience Overlap
1. mileswmathis.com
2. nowickgray.com
3. milespantloadmathis.wordpress.com
4. banditobooks.com
5. cluesforum.info


cluesforum.info Traffic Statistics
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cluesforum.info


Global Rank 330,808

Rank in United Kingdom 29,815



Audience Geography

Where are this site's visitors located?
Visitors by Country

Country Percent of Visitors Rank in Country
United Kingdom 35.5% 29,815
Germany 30.9% 36,701
United States 21.1% 181,834

How engaged are visitors to cluesforum.info?
Bounce Rate
47.50%
Daily Pageviews per Visitor
3.70
Daily Time on Site
3:57

Which search keywords send traffic to this site?
Keyword Percent of Search Traffic
1. clues forum 58.36%
2. miles mathis 5.72%
3. cluesforum 3.84%
4. september clues 3.43%
5. phil jayhan 1.64%

What sites link to cluesforum.info?
Total Sites Linking In 317


*bounce rate
noun
noun: bounce rate; plural noun: bounce rates

the percentage of visitors to a particular website who navigate away from the site after viewing only one page.
"a rising bounce rate is a sure sign that your homepage is boring or off-putting"

Which, at first glance, informs us, if the figures are to be believed and variation is taken into account, that on average people are more inclined to stay and read researched information put forward on CluesForum than on the Miles Mathis website and CF has higher global and United States ranking than the MM website.

Are the figures to be believed?

Obviously we cannot be 100% sure, but I would imagine CF content has every much reason as that of MM content to be suppressed or rigged and as such the figures are as equally believable as the stats he posts on his website.

Which leads us to conclude that he cannot dismiss this site as irreverent as he does others and his failing to address your work on The Tychos model, whether positive or negative, will lead your more prominent website audience veering to the idea that he (committee?) is controlled opposition working out of Langley, Virginia.
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby SacredCowSlayer on June 7th, 2018, 12:19 pm

simonshack » June 7th, 2018, 2:31 am wrote:Dear Undoctored,

Yes, I had read that notice about his new mail address - so that's where I sent it. As for Tokarski, there's no way he could have known about me sending it (unless, as he claims, MM told him about it) - or unless he has psychic powers: I've never told anyone / mentioned publicly that I did (until yesterday, in my above post). Come to think of it, it's rather odd that MM would have informed Tokarski about it - or maybe it isn't? Go figure...


Simon,

Thank you for that prompt reply to Undoctored concerning how you did not make that public knowledge until the last day or so. That should be the nail in the coffin for this “topic.”

I was happy when this topic was changed (upon my request) to “Deconstructing Miles Mathis.” But, I was elated when the topic was locked.

With all due respect and deference, I urge you to trust your instincts and close this topic yet again. Brianv was consistently (and appropriately) harsh towards MM, and my objections to it were growing stronger with each passing day.

The MM character is clearly an OP, and the very topic opens the door to all sorts of nefarious forum disrupters talking about rounding squares and other unhelpful (at best) distractions.

I recall it hogging up several months such that a number of (now) former members were constantly keeping it at the top of the Active Topics.

Note: I recognize the point that Kickstones is making. But the kind of traffic that is drawn in by the MM stuff is not what this forum needs IMHO.
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Case Closed on the Miles Mathis "Genius" Clown.

Postby Observer on June 7th, 2018, 3:03 pm

Miles Mathis does NOT admit that the 9/11 "footage" was faked.
Miles Mathis does NOT admit that the 9/11 "victims" were faked.

Over 16 years of Miles Mathis pretending 9/11 "footage" was real.
Over 16 years of Miles Mathis pretending 9/11 "victims" were real.

viewtopic.php?p=2389381#p2389381
http://www.septclues.com/SIMCITY/KingKo ... ftTALL.jpg
https://archive.org/details/abc200109111241-1323 (from 19:35)
viewtopic.php?p=2346197&f=17#p2346197

Miles Mathis has been gatekeeping for over 16 years now about 9/11.
Miles Mathis NEVER admits the 9/11 "footage and victims" were faked.

Gopi having met someone is moot. The Miles Mathis "Genius" failed 9/11.

Only a blind idiot still doesn't realize 9/11 "footage and victims" were faked.
And only a cowardly liar doesn't admit 9/11 "footage and victims" were faked.

9/11 "footage and victims" were faked. Miles Mathis "Genius" Clown: Case Closed.
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby SacredCowSlayer on June 7th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Simon,

I will again most respectfully and humbly request that this topic be changed to “Deconstructing Miles Mathis,” especially in light of the strong circumstantial evidence that MM is simply an “Intelligence” Operation of some kind.

It’s a nasty high level disinformation outlet that gives away some low hanging fruit while simultaneously obscuring legitimate research and running cover for the bigger lies like 9/11.

That’s what the Math-Is.

With all sincerity and being mindful of your forum, please shut this down. I can hear the trolls getting ready to stampede over this topic. It’s quite foreseeable.

With Utmost Respect,
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby simonshack on June 7th, 2018, 6:27 pm

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Dear SCS,

I'll take your advice - which sounds wise & reasonable to me. I will now lock this thread - pending any future (most unlikely) reasons for re-opening it again. However, I'll leave its title as it is - since we have in fact been discussing the MM entity - quite objectively imho, ever since December 2014 - and ultimately (after due and cautious pondering) found it to be rotten. To rename this thread "Deconstructing MM" would only raise unnecessary concerns about our forum's compliance to the good ol' convention known as "innocent until proven guilty". After all, we didn't set out - from the word go - to deconstruct / destroy the MM entity : it gradually collapsed under our lengthy, collective assessments and considerations - and under the steadily-growing load of stenchy bs emanating from MM (and MM's bizarre 'fan base').

Ever wondered what "Mathis" means?

Meaning of Mathis: "gift of God"
https://nameberry.com/babyname/Mathis
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Re: Discussing Miles W. Mathis

Postby simonshack on June 7th, 2018, 9:39 pm

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Just some last few thoughts about MM's bizarre "fan base" (as mentioned in my above post).

There's this fairly new blog named "Cuttingthroughtthefog(dot)com" run by a guy named Josh who, apparently, is none other than our former Cluesforum member "daddie_o".

Here's "daddie_o's" handshake introduction at Cluesforum : viewtopic.php?p=2399998#p2399998

"Daddie_o's" real name appears to be Joshua Guetzkow - and he's now heavily promoting the MM character and his supposed, worldwide fan base.

Joshua Guetzkow profile: https://en.law.huji.ac.il/people/joshua-guetzkow

Need more proof? Here it is:
"I have christened his theoretical perspective, ‘Mathisian physics,’ because it is every bit as revolutionary and comprehensive as Newtonian or Einsteinian physics. Here is his website, where you can find all of his papers, which are short and written in an accessible writing style: http://milesmathis.com/"
https://e-catworld.com/2016/03/13/mathisian-physics-and-lenr-a-preliminary-and-tentative-guide-josh-guetzkow/


On his blog, Josh loves to "out me" by my real birthname Simon Hytten (which, mind you, I've never hidden) - so I cannot be blamed for publishing Josh's full name & surname. Aside from acting like a hardcore MM sycophant, Josh also loves to cast sinister aspersions about yours truly. Here's the sort of stuff he writes on his blog:

"I don’t know if Shack (Hytten) started out legit and was later co-opted or if he always started out with September Clues as a way to prove his street cred before misdirecting, but I’m quite certain now that he’s misdirecting people into what I’ve called Operation Fantasy Land."

In other words - according to Josh - I would be some creepy agent trying to misdirect people into Fantasy Land.

The above quote is from this thread at Josh's blog :

"What Do Thoughtful People Think about Miles Mathis?"
https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/0 ... es-mathis/

We can then find another thread on Josh's blog titled :

"The Worldwide Reach and Impact of Miles Mathis"
" https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/0 ... nd-impact/

But the most hilarious thread on Josh's blog is this one, dated May 8, 2018 (as of today, only ONE month old) :

"In Defense of Miles Mathis"
https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/0 ... mment-2897

As the story goes, Miles Mathis invited all of his fans to "a party". This party consisted in asking all of MM's fans to post on Josh's blog ... "in defense of Miles Mathis". Well, well, well - what a party it was: more than 2700 replies so far - in only ONE MONTH! This compares well with, for instance, the most 'popular' Cluesforum thread of all times ( OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011) which, after SEVEN YEARS, has a total post count of 3088. Yet, the "MM party thread" at Josh's new blog beats (by a mile) ALL of Cluesforum's other threads - in terms of participation / post counts!

You've gotta give it to him: Miles Mathis is just such a popular figure - and we just cannot dream of competing with his worldwide appeal ! :P
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