Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April 2018

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Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April 2018

Postby hoi.polloi on April 9th, 2018, 8:34 pm

Let's celebrate that Fakeologist's main page is deconstructing a news story in text form! This would be a great direction for Fakeologist to gain relevance over CluesForum with its simple blog format (though it would be nice if the page were less resource intensive. It takes longer to load Fakeologist's doodads and hiccups than a typical online ad-filled magazine).

Now, in the "fake news" marketplace they sometimes helplessly get conflated in, Fakeologists sometimes freely dive into these stories just using anchors and numbers and names and gematria to pay attention but here they really pounced on this one and it's nice to see Ab showing skepticism, discernment, micro pattern awareness, and exercising perception between evidence and doctored (invalid) evidence. Here is the discussion:

http://fakeologist.com/blog/2018/04/08/ ... /#comments

The Gofundme is going quite well. The team photo, as is normal for suspicious stories, is of a resolution I’d attribute to a Kodak disc camera (remember those? I do – I worked in a photo lab and the picture quality was awful).

Most camera phones have a resolution thousands of times better. Why can’t we have a detailed picture? The answer is because detailed faked composites can be blown up and picked apart by the fakeologist community.

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simteam.jpg


I thought to myself today as I left the grocery store, being hit up for non-existent pocket change (I’m mostly digital money), how much money minor hockey costs – perhaps up to $5,000/year per player. Transportation costs must be heavy in the rural provinces. If they are raising real money, as in this gofundme, could this be one more possible reason to stage an event?

One of the first media sites to feature the story was the Washington Post, which references the Associated Press as a source. This coincides with the theory that most of these stories are American created psyOps, and are fed to their outlets.

At least 15 people are dead after a crash between a tractor-trailer and a bus carrying a Canadian junior hockey league team, a tragedy that struck at the heart of a tightknit city in rural Saskatchewan and immediately echoed through the hockey world and beyond.


At least one (real/unreal) commenter wondered why it was on the front “page” of an American outlet, and was quickly made the most lambasted comment.

This is a terrible tragedy. But this is front page on WaPo because…? I heard lot of young people died in Gaza, Syria and few other places. No coverage of that by Wang….but Canadian hockey players in Saskatchewan… there is front page news on WaPo. Mmmm,,,Do Americans know where Saskatchewan is? I do! Regina, Regina…

A young White kid with autism died in Tennessee at the hands of his own father. No analysis on that. Lot of autistic kids, and disabled kids, are getting murdered in the US, including by their adoptive parents, like the ones who drove their six kids over a cliff. No analysis on that.

So, WaPo does not work for Russia…but it now works for Canada? Lot of such news on Canada. I like Canadians…but lets not put Canadian White boys over other immigrants in the US Wang.

And any Canadian who responds to this write up with meanness…proves my point. Canada has racist White people too!



The fact that the Trump and Trudeau have elevated this story to the top of the media world is the reason I question the story.
Almost all major media stories are (somewhat, if not totally) fabricated. 9/11 proved that the whole world can be fooled by an #HRDPAR, at the time and years later.


What Ab means by HRDPAR is "Live Drills Portrayed As Real". I am really skeptical of the marketing of private military acronyms and grammar that isn't immediately understandable to the general population, but who knows? Maybe all strategies are welcome when it comes to trying to spread the truth.

Faye
April 9, 2018 at 2:18 pm

I happen to see an article on the swiss net provider much before in came into the attention of the local fakeologists in canada (unfortunately i did not make a screenshot and by the time in was published here on fakeologist the article was gone). This same happened once again with the story about the serial gay killer some time ago.

Maybe I am now just more aware of such stories but could it be that there is some reasoning in the distribution of the info? Somewhere the story “gets out” and that is not nessecary the place where the event takes place as I at least thought till now..


xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 2:04 pm

Here’s the bus driver – looks nothing like the official picture released, but naturally disguised with shades
https://www.facebook.com/glen.doerksen

Here’s his son’s pictures prepped for press release, 20 June 2016, perhaps indicating the planning timescale of these psy-ops
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... .691815498

and in a different shirt at the same golf hole!
http://wpmedia.thestarphoenix.com/2018/ ... &strip=all

Daughter Melissa
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... .592270722

Wife Karen
https://www.facebook.com/karen.doerksen.39

[no posts or comments relating to the ‘crash’

Age 59 years [ideal retirement age]
Memorial service Friday the 13th April
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... .592270722
note the use of the grey golfing image probably also from 2016


ab
April 9, 2018 at 2:13 pm

Here’s the incompetent coroner story, to further sew confusion.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... -says.html

Wilby said the mistake is unprecedented in Saskatchewan’s history and the families affected have been very understanding.

They became aware of new information coming from the hospital late Sunday night that they had the two boys’ identities confused.


xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 2:32 pm

It’s nonsense, Ab. Were they all burnt to a cinder? Obviously not since their blond hair survived…. or was all their clothing ripped off their bodies, Boston style? Of course not. It’s just more hoax management to add the stamp of authenticity story that anyone died at the crossroads.

The ministry says Labelle is injured but alive, though they would not provide information on his condition due to patient privacy concerns.

nuff said. But if he’d broken his back Xavier would have given a blow by blow account of his aches and pains and hopes for the season. Perhaps he was so badly ‘injured’ that he couldn’t speak and give his name.

dental records are the best way to identify deceased but those can take days to track down, especially given the hockey players were from all over western Canada.

No, dental record identification is always a hoax giveaway.

What an absolute farce.


Ok so maybe there are a few trees – maybe it’s time for a – traffic light – or a round-a-bout?

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... -1997.html

CARROT RIVER, Sask.—A remote Saskatchewan intersection where a junior hockey team bus crashed on Friday was already a scene of tragedy for a family that lost six of its members in a collision two decades ago.

Dylan Fiddler, who was just six at the time, lost his mother, aunt, uncle and three young cousins when the vehicle they were in collided with a semi on Highway 35 where it meets a secondary highway at a spot known as Armley Corner.


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xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 12:45 pm

Nice clear image of the peat bag explosion site…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2 ... _crash.jpg

missing tyres, no peat under the vehicles…it’s too crazy for words. [I think we know the answer]


ab
April 9, 2018 at 12:47 pm

It’s one of the only pictures. Don’t forget, an entire generation is now holding a tv production studio in their hands. Where are all the videos? Instas? Snapchats? Still in production?


ab
April 9, 2018 at 6:14 am

I wonder what the financial position was of the team and its constituents? The arena? The town? Do ICE Integrated capstone events happen in Canada?

Also bizarre and over-the-top is the fact that HRH The Queen! and ill Phil weighed in. When’s the last time they did that about their colony? (her royalness still gives me chills – no sarcasm – it’s psychological I’m sure)

https://www.royal.uk/message-queen-and- ... ash-canada

A message from The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh following the recent bus crash in Canada

Published 8 April 2018

“Prince Philip and I were saddened to hear word of the crash involving the Humboldt Broncos hockey team. Our thoughts and prayers are with those who have lost so much, with their families and with all Canadians who grieve with them at this difficult time.

Elizabeth R.”




xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 1:13 pm

Certainly Charlie’s Charters’ core business seems to have been Ice Hockey related…
http://www.charliescharters.ca/

their grieving [and no doubt currently managed from outisde] fb page is here
https://www.facebook.com/Charlies-Chart ... 807538315/

Crikey, there’s nothing left at the crash site,
https://twitter.com/JackiePerezCTV/stat ... 8853094410


ab
April 9, 2018 at 1:24 pm

Wow. So much for honoring the dead with a thorough investigation. These death worshippers are very two faced.


xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 5:48 am

GoFundMe progress report 9.46 AM UTC 4/9/18 **
The Humboldt Broncos say they’re still in the process of determining how the more than $4.68 ** million raised through GoFundMe will be used, but it’s primarily focused around supporting the victims’ and survivors’ families.
globalnews.ca/video/4131299/humboldt-broncos-say-gofundme-money-to-be-primarily-used-to-support-victims-families…



ab
April 9, 2018 at 6:03 am

At the rate they are going, the support could include some paid off mortgages and a new arena with zamboni.
I am still awaiting the video of the crash rescue. Other first responders need to see how a farming community can muster such a team out of nowhere to take care of such a large event.
Non-fakeologists need to realize that the pre-written sob stories of “he lit up a room” are pushed on top of the details IMMEDIATELY to obfuscate and flood the brain with emotions so as not to look at the most important part of the story – ie. the rescue and its impossible logistics, not to mention the actual wreck.


davieb
April 8, 2018 at 10:09 pm

This is no doubt in my mind a hoax.
question: what do they do? tell all the players and their friends and families to keep their mouths shut?
what are the logistics of keeping those in the know quiet
ie “the alive guys”

i know don cherry and Mike Babcock can easily be told what to do and they will do it.
ps really bad acting by mike babcock


xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 5:24 am

We haven’t really moved on from the “too many people involved” and “how do they get everyone to keep secrets” conjectures, ignoring the ‘how do they sound out and select the victims for their psy-ops’ question. [or even the people at the top of the organisations involved, be they unions, hospitals, emergency services, sports federations and clubs, music venues, airlines, marathons…. I could go on. They just have to dance when told to and similarly stfu]

Here’s the Babcock interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbfqMVxC5WU

the following longer clip shows further questioning of a general nature to a very uncomfortable looking Babcock.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/mike-b ... ncos-crash

Ron and Don discuss, in a more composed fashion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg0sz6RQ6xU

Mass grieve-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_71dZBVsk


ab
April 9, 2018 at 6:06 am

Babcock must have watched the Robbie Parker interview from Sandy Hoax over and over to prepare.
Regarding the intersection (which I haven’t looked up), one thing about the prairies: you can see cross road traffic from miles away since you’re on the desert essentially! Especially in the spring there are no crops and the ground is FLAT!


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April 8, 2018 at 6:13 pm

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Alright look, attack me all you want on this but I think this is a real event mostly because the team photos, the hockey trends (blonde hair) and number of instagram followers the boys have are regular for a hockey kid.
HOWEVER, I have found evidence that this may not be as real as they want us to believe. For all of those who do not go searching through instagram, as I suspect none of you do, I looked these boys up. Many of the recently ‘deceased’ players have private accounts but there are the odd ones who do not. The beloved Stephen Wack has a public account so I decided to take a gander. He has a similar account to a friend of mine (photojournalism) but what strikes me as odd is the fact that he is what seems to be an avid hockey player, yet has NO TEAM PHOTO. Most of you will not find that strange but if you follow teenage boys who play hockey, you will find at least one team photo somewhere on their feed. Every single white boy I follow who plays hockey has a team photo, be it from a rugby team, swimming or hockey it’s there somewhere. Yes these Humboldt boys do have individual action photos but to be honest that’s not normal for the average player.
The other issue is the fact that the last post from each of these boys is between March 15 and 16. Is that not the strangest thing? Most guys post once a year and for all of their final pictures to be in such close proximity to their death date? Doesn’t strike me as your average male instagram.
Do not even get me started on the “R.I.P” posts. 99% of them are from girls because they’re the ‘more emotional ones’. The over use of full names and “most brightest happiest person on this earth” makes me want to gag. I understand it is devastating to lose someone, especially someone you consider close so you want to write positively about them. I also get that we live in a generation of ‘now’ and ‘post everything that happens to us’, but if I got news my best friend just died I would not post about it the morning after or probably ever. Unless that just makes me abnormal in this world however, I’d like to believe I am pretty much like everyone else. The other odd thing about these death posts is that NONE of the boys’ past teammates posted anything about them. Nor did they even comment on the final post saying ‘rest easy buddy’. Usually hockey players are quite good friends seeing as they spend months together during a season.
Overall, the story to me is not strange because this sort of thing can happen to anyone but what weirds me out is the lack of hockey posts.

https://www.instagram.com/wackerr/
https://www.instagram.com/jaxonjoseph2/
https://www.instagram.com/c_lukan97/



xileffilex
April 8, 2018 at 8:44 pm

Good work on instagram, Catch 22 but this draws me ever further away from this being a real event.

Furthermore, let’s remember this prequel in 1986

Where?
Saskatewan – check
en.wikipedia.org…
The Swift Current Broncos bus crash
Passengers 28
Deaths 4
Injuries 24
Memorial – check

Four Broncos Memorial
On the 30th anniversary of the crash, December 30, 2016, a memorial was unveiled near the site of the accident.

Success following tragedy – check
http://www.macleans.ca/archives/the-198 ... d-triumph/

Hoax management /developnment – check
10 years later

Graham James, coach of the Swift Current Broncos, was convicted of sexually assaulting Sheldon Kennedy and other teenage players.


Nothing new under the sun, except there was no instagram in 1986.



xileffilex
April 8, 2018 at 3:45 pm

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The photos of the ‘deceased’ are prepped
http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-ne ... hway-crash

https://globalnews.ca/news/4130065/humb ... rs-hockey/

e.g.
Logan Hunter, from St. Albert, Alta., also died in the collision, loved ones have confirmed to Global News.

The truck driver not injured, would you believe

GoFundMes going well, Humboldt Strong, Hockey community coming together……. same old routine.

Team photo for cross referencing ‘victims’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/ ... PWNCEY.jpg

We need a hero in all this – seem like it’s here..
https://globalnews.ca/news/4130701/humb ... te-organs/
The family of a Humboldt Broncos player from Lethbridge who was injured in a tragic bus crash Friday night says Logan Boulet is on life support – and will donate his organs to six people in need.

Doctors in on it? You bet
http://thestarphoenix.com/news/canada/f ... 7231e8c073

Miraculous recovery? You’ve guessed already:
Centre Nick Shumlanski’s father, Myles, confirmed that his son was released from hospital in good condition after receiving treatment for broken bones, including injuries to his shoulder and a small crack in a vertabra.

He first went to the Tisdale hospital and then to Saskatoon for further treatment. Myles said a doctor called his son a “miracle,” as he was one of the only Broncos players able to get up and walk immediately after the collision Friday.




xileffilex
April 8, 2018 at 4:34 pm

Best grieving sighted so far, coach of rival team Nipawin Hawks, Doug Johnson
https://globalnews.ca/video/4130152/nip ... nightmare/
https://www.sjhl.ca/news_article/show/9 ... _id=618093
Two names on the team photo who leave no trace so far, Chris Beaudry, Assistant Coach and Blake Berschiminsky [who only left this season for the Delisle Chiefs – the “lucky escape”]
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=286597

and assistant coach Chris Beaudry who ‘did not board the bus’

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-ne ... fatal-ride

why so?
Chris Beaudry rarely boarded the Humboldt Broncos bus for the shorter road trips around central Saskatchewan. The assistant coach would often drive alone in his truck.
Friday was one of those days.


hmmmmm

“My mind is a blur. I’m just trying to focus on trying to stay strong for the families. They need support right now and then there’ll be a time.”
He joins Broncos assistant general manager Jason Neville, who was also not on the bus, as team personnel going forward.
“My mind is blank now, but the hockey community has been great,” said Beaudry.
“Because of where I live, every game that we go north or east, I drove myself,” he explained. “It just didn’t make sense to drive to Humboldt to then go right past my home again.”

Beaudry had nothing but good things to say about his mentor, Haugan.
“He’s a salt-of-the-earth guy,” said Beaudry.



xileffilex
April 9, 2018 at 11:14 am

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1523811
Humboldt Broncos defenseman Ryan Straschnitzki suffered a broken back and is paralyzed from the chest down following the horrific bus crash that left 15 dead on Friday, but it hasn’t stopped him from wanting to get back out on the ice.

The 18-year-old Straschnitzki underwent a successful seven-hour surgery, in which rods and pins were placed in his back, and fluids were removed from his lungs where there had been bleeding.

It would be easy for Straschnitzki to dwell on the fact that he’ll likely never walk again, but instead, he’s apparently keeping a positive outlook on life. It’s one of the lone positive stories to come out of this tragedy.
http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-new ... aschnitzki

At 11 a.m., the family was told Straschnitzki would be paralyzed from the chest down but able to move his arms and head.

“He’s alive and breathing, so we really don’t care about that,” said Tom. “As long as he’s alive.”
he said his son is already starting to set goals.

“He keeps wanting to try and move his legs, of course, because he wants to go back skating,” said Tom. “He just looked at me and his mother and he goes, ‘well, I’m gonna get onto the Olympic sledge hockey team.’
“He’s an amazing kid, that boy.”
Hours after waking up from surgery, Straschnitzki asked his “billet dad” if he could scroll through his phone, according to Tom. The two then sat down for two hours discussing the magnitude of the collision and what’s happened since.

“He went ‘wow, this is big. I didn’t think it was that big,’ ” Tom said, adding his son then wanted to see a photo of the team bus.

“He said ‘that’s the window I flew out of and that’s where I landed on the pavement,’ ” said Tom. “And then he just stared at that for about five to 10 minutes.


hmmmm

Cue the Boston style bedside visit from the president, Trudeau
https://twitter.com/strazsr/status/983112379599745025



... the posts go on. I like this comment by Ab:

ab
April 8, 2018 at 1:49 pm

Everyone being blond is some sort of hockey gimmick going on this (or recent) years. The gofundme blowup of this photo shows some odd digital artifacts of cut and paste.



ab
April 8, 2018 at 7:32 am

They say everyone in a small town is related… I look for evidence for Sims since they’re the most likely method used in Persona creation.


Right on, Fakeologists! We all have to improve our ability to sniff out the difference between reality and fiction. As we've been warning for almost a decade, the lines are deliberately being blended, smudged, blurred, photoshopped, cropped in, transitioned, moved, shifted and erased. All with the power of two things: computers and liars working together.
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Re: Canadian Hockey crash — April 2018

Postby rick55 on April 10th, 2018, 4:55 pm

I agree that Fakeologist is too heavy on resources so thanks for reposting the comments here so that I can more easily peruse them.

I've been reading this narrative for the past several days and I always like to come up with simple solutions for things that are easy to understand. One solution for the comic-book-fake-narrative that Humboldt-story-board-creators are missing is a "bigger stop sign". Ha ha. I've been exploring "stop signs" in the image searches and certainly that might be useful.

Also a "hidden intersection" sign on the through-fair, I think hwy 35, might be useful. They use those a lot in Ontario. This solution is a possible REAL world solution for what appears to be a real intersection where the phony crash was staged.

There is a stand of forest / trees blocking the oncoming truck that missed the stop sign that could be cut back as well. I wonder who owns that stand of trees? Again, these are meant to "play along" with their narrative-- using reason and given their story-line (just for fun-- and quite possibly for real to make that intersection better in reality--- assuming that intersection and the forest exist).

I thought about the truck driver too. He ran a stop sign but was given counselling. He hasn't been charged with running the stop sign! Ha ha. It's goofier than a cartoon with Goofy.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time...
and you can fool all of the people some of the time...
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".
--Abe Lincoln quoted often by my dad.

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Re: Canadian Hockey crash — April 2018

Postby memoryhole on April 10th, 2018, 5:05 pm

I'm ashamed to say I was fooled for a short time on this one.

The best part of this play was the misidentified victims of Xavier Labelle (18 y/o, defense, #3) and Parker Tobin (18y/o, goalie, #30). This is being attributed to the fact that all of the boys are of athletic build and the entire team dyed their hair blonde for playoffs. :puke:

So as I understand it:

    Friday April 6th at 5:00pm (CST) - Westbound travelling transport truck runs a stop sign and T-bones Humboldt team bus travelling northbound (except no visible damage to front end of the truck so I expect this part of the story will have to be edited)
    Saturday April 7th at 12:35am (CST) - Police release details on victims and injury counts
    Sunday April 8th at 7:00pm (CST) - Vigil held for the victims
    Monday April 9th at 7:00am (CST) - Ministry of Justice annouces that bodies of Xavier Labelle and Parker Tobin were misidentified

Xavier Labelle's brother Issac Labelle https://www.instagram.com/isaac_labelle/?hl=en posts tribute to dead brother on Sunday April 8th.

The Farcebook page for Xavier Labelle https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008878110281 was turned into a memorialized account and hasn't been fixed yet to reflect the fact that he is ALIVE! Kudos to the Labelle family and Facebook for their quick acting to memorialize Xavier's personal Farcebook account. That would be at the top of my priority list too if my brother or son passed away in a horrific bus accident. Sucks that he will be locked out of his account now.

I'm guessing that the boys don't carry wallets with ID these days or had phones on them like every other millennial would. I would imagine that Xavier's head must have been completely bandaged up and was restrained from communicating to completely fool both sets of parents, billet parents, siblings, hockey teammates, coaches, chaplin, nurses, doctors as to his real identity.

Or maybe he was just playing a late April fool's joke on everyone? :lol:

EDIT: For those wondering about the motive on this one, it is the same as every other psy-op, money. The insurance payouts alone on this one will be in the 10's of millions. Policy limits for charter bus companies are huge for good reason. The trucking policy would be substantial and the team/league have insurance as well. That does not even include the charity funds of GoFundMe and other donations pouring in from across the country/world.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby hoi.polloi on April 12th, 2018, 4:29 am

Ab of Fakeologist continues righteously lambasting, this time the lame lumbar layer:

A couple of days later after breaking his (lumbar) spine for a total paralysis from the waist down injury, this guy is slumped in bed without any sign of a brace with PM Boflex?

This is an example of a made-for-tv-movie timeline, where the general TV educated public is conditioned to believe that dramatic, traumatic medical episodes that normally take weeks and even years to stabilize are solved in a 44 minute tell-a-lie-vision hour.

Completely ridiculous, of course, and more proof you are dealing with a fabricated event.

WATCH: The parents of Ryan Straschnitzki, one of the Humboldt Broncos players injured in Friday’s bus crash say their son is paralyzed from the waist down, but say he’s strong and a fighter.




Courtesy of: https://globalnews.ca/news/4131353/this ... r-surgery/

Read more: http://fakeologist.com/#ixzz5CQPywm25

Yes, Ab, I hope everyone can agree there is something very fishy (smells like money and propaganda) about this "tragedy" story.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby pov603 on April 12th, 2018, 7:35 am

Would you ever, in the news article embedded video “Boston” advertised on the hoarding behind the goal and then mention of #strazstrong (or some such shite) later on in the article... :puke:
Edit: typo
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby hoi.polloi on April 12th, 2018, 8:01 pm

pov603 » April 12th, 2018, 6:35 am wrote:Would you ever, in the news article embedded video “Boston” advertised on the hoarding behind the goal and then mention of #strazstrong (or some such shite) later on in the article... :puke:
Edit: typo


Sorry, but please clarify. :blink:
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby pov603 on April 13th, 2018, 6:57 am

Image
The news’ opening image shows the above “shot”.
TPTB always seem to keep the narrative linked hence the Boston Bombing and the “#bostonstrong” meme, now we have the Humboldt “crash” and the subsequent #strazstrong...
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby rick55 on April 13th, 2018, 8:56 pm

Would it be interesting to post a link to this thread in the Wikipedia article about this crash? So far, on that article, there is no mention of a phony event and of course I would expect it to be removed promptly. However-- it might be fun to try and see how long it remains up. I worked my way into the edit page there this morning but thought I'd better get some advice here first. Thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_ ... _bus_crash

I was also wondering how the Wikipedia editing team might react to a short paragraph and explanation linking the Fakeologist site as well but I can no longer access that site due to my older browser.

One more thing: What if-- someone were to write a Wikipedia style article for POTENTIAL posting to the Wiki entry on this-- right here in this forum? ....because as good as the Fakeologist and Clues forums are, the discussion points are distributed over many posts and not as readable as a Wiki article, right? I suppose a volunteer would have to step forward who can think in whole paragraphs and summarize a lot of information. I don't know if I could do it or not-- I've not tried something like that for a long time. It's tough because there's no pay of course.

Another one more thing-- Why don't we fakologists and clues people do our own gofundme for fakery research? Has this been tried? I often pay a few bucks for magazines or books of interest to me so I could certainly see myself donating to a fakery research fund from time to time.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby hoi.polloi on April 13th, 2018, 11:27 pm

No need to overthink things rick55! You have a good idea and you should try it. We'll welcome it here and the human race could certainly use more people who have their own initiative to help each other out!
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby fakeologist on April 14th, 2018, 12:28 am

rick55 » April 13th, 2018, 2:56 pm wrote:Would it be interesting to post a link to this thread in the Wikipedia article about this crash? So far, on that article, there is no mention of a phony event and of course I would expect it to be removed promptly. However-- it might be fun to try and see how long it remains up. I worked my way into the edit page there this morning but thought I'd better get some advice here first. Thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_ ... _bus_crash

I was also wondering how the Wikipedia editing team might react to a short paragraph and explanation linking the Fakeologist site as well but I can no longer access that site due to my older browser.

One more thing: What if-- someone were to write a Wikipedia style article for POTENTIAL posting to the Wiki entry on this-- right here in this forum? ....because as good as the Fakeologist and Clues forums are, the discussion points are distributed over many posts and not as readable as a Wiki article, right? I suppose a volunteer would have to step forward who can think in whole paragraphs and summarize a lot of information. I don't know if I could do it or not-- I've not tried something like that for a long time. It's tough because there's no pay of course.

Another one more thing-- Why don't we fakologists and clues people do our own gofundme for fakery research? Has this been tried? I often pay a few bucks for magazines or books of interest to me so I could certainly see myself donating to a fakery research fund from time to time.


Hi Rick,
Glad to see you back.
With the help of Faye and Gaia, we have started a Fakeopedia. http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia Email me at ima@fakeologist.com and you can start or edit an entry. We welcome your help.
My site may be slow, but we also have a fast chat at http://bit.ly/fakechat - available on your smartphone or computer, or through a browser.
Perhaps it's time to update your computer and join the collaboration.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby hoi.polloi on April 16th, 2018, 5:39 pm

The immeasurable grief caused by a horrific bus crash in rural Saskatchewan — one that killed 16 people associated with the Humboldt Broncos junior hockey team — has sparked a stunning, record-breaking wave of generosity from across Canada and around the world.


from Fakeologist's found article: Humboldt GoFundMe donors have their own stories, their own reasons for giving | The Star (https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/0 ... iving.html)
Read Fakeologist's entry: http://fakeologist.com/#ixzz5CqzW5E8H

Call me insensitive but my question is: Why exactly has this particular almost dull alleged event resulting in injured and dead privileged pseudo-celebrities sparked a "stunning" wave of generosity around the world? Is the world so enamored with some handful of Western kids dead from a car accident, while empire continues to bomb, drill, strip mine and otherwise rape countries? Is the world so desperate for a cathartic positive image from the West? Something feels absurdly wrong about the priorities of the message "stunning generosity from around the world". Perhaps I am paying attention to too many real people and not enough mythological gossip but I don't know anyone whose lives were remotely changed by this apparent event, and I know dozens that would be quicker to change the subject to their favorite pet topic of tragedy (starving children, lack of jobs, shrinking of global middle classes, environmental degradation, etc. etc. etc. even if some of the pet topics are not even very legit.)

Therefore, I don't think even this ostensibly optimistic and supportive message can be called honest reporting about this rather relatively minor "world" event. It's not a "world" event. It's a local crash. These things happen every day all the time and the inordinate attention paid to just another one is extremely suspicious. I believe it could very well be a mass psychological test of crowd catharsis.

Near the opening of the article:

So much potential lost, so many dreams shattered in an instant. The outpouring of support, both in heartfelt sympathy and money, was immediate.


I don't know if I am weird for thinking this but I find the juxtaposition of these two sentences disturbing. How can dreams shattered in an instant, the suggestion of parents losing their children in tragedy, be remotely compared to some shocking or overwhelming anonymous support through money?

Sympathy, I understand, might barely put a dent in the more overwhelming feeling of sadness and loss. Maybe money might help on some other level. But it's not something that goes away with money or is solved with money. And as much as hockey fans can be manipulated and swept up in a venting of steam — no matter what level of "reality" this supposed tragedy took place in — it's eerie to me that the media continues spinning extremely privileged people living in one of the resource-richest countries in the world receiving donations is some kind of global win.

All due sympathies with those who are really losing family/friends in tragedies but not as a way to solicit money.

I just can't but help think of the countless families and truly oppressed communities who would love to afford even their next meal, let alone a funeral. Sorry if that's too much context that doesn't belong. If this event is remotely faked or manipulated, these people faking it are among the worst types of criminals and could be fined double what they received in donations and jailed and it would feel to the same "global community" like justice was served.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby Faye on April 16th, 2018, 7:01 pm

The general questioning by Hoi resonates with me. I try to phrase it:

*It is not a major geopolitical psyOp - nontheless it gets attention in european media extensively.
*The "local crash" can - counting the alleged victims - be characterized as massive.
*Much effort is being undertaken on the represantional level to emphasize the importance of the event: Queen involved, national remembrance stuff, etc.
*Funding itsself seems to exceed what one would attribute to the reason of the funding.
*Imbalance between grief and money
*Media productions try to level out the imbalance.

I think this event could well involve some illegal money funneling.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby memoryhole on May 11th, 2018, 4:27 pm

For those who are deeply concerned with how Xavier Labelle is doing with his recovery after being mistakenly pronounced dead in the Humboldt Bus Crash I have some updates to share.

Here is a statement through a public relations firm from the family on his progress.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/OAhrhwNYDGVL9DQp1 Original Link https://globalnews.ca/news/4194739/player-injured-xavier-labelle-humboldt-broncos-bus-crash/

Unfortunately, even with all that downtime in the hospital he hasn't had the time to fix his memorialized Facebook account so he could post some updates on his healing progress and all the visits from family and friends in the hospital.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DuHWIRgsJRv8LuPq2 Original Link https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008878110281

The media did release a picture of him working on his recovery a few days ago.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FIxDPNVAgyJ1QhwL2 Original Link https://globalnews.ca/news/4194739/player-injured-xavier-labelle-humboldt-broncos-bus-crash/

Maybe he's wearing the same glasses as Parker Tobin to remind that family of their loss because they look so much alike. :rolleyes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FEvkoB4rEM62QYO83 Original Link http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/what-we-know-about-the-misidentification-of-humboldt-players-parker-tobin-and-xavier-labelle/
Last edited by memoryhole on May 12th, 2018, 3:29 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby CluedIn on May 11th, 2018, 5:01 pm

Memoryhole - none of your images are coming thru.
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Re: Humboldt, Saskatchewan Broncos (Hockey) "crash" — April

Postby memoryhole on May 11th, 2018, 5:43 pm

CluedIn » May 11th, 2018, 5:01 pm wrote:Memoryhole - none of your images are coming thru.


Thanks for the heads up CluedIn, I think I fixed it as they seem to be showing for me now on multiple devices. I'm not comfortable with posting videos/images yet.
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