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Re: Engineering disease

ICfreely » December 30th, 2018, 2:03 pm wrote:Methinks I'm wasting my time here. I'll leave it to you and patrix to go on debating acid vs. fungus as the root cause of "cancer" ad infinitum.

I was looking at clarification as to where you are coming from. Sorry to see you leave the conversation. I've no interest in continuing with patrix.

Blessings.
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:38 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

To ICfreely: . . . pH, acidosis, on the subject of . . .
"Methinks" that you are still stuck on the idea of blood pH, which is well talked about, and not lymph pH, which subject is pretty much ignored. What say you?
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:35 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

1) You forgot the liver, spleen and pancreas. These organs are not doorways for wastes to leave the body. 2) Acidosis would be the effect, not the cause. Acidosis is the effect of lifestyle choices. 3) Even if you were to raise your pH level (which would be a good idea) you’d still have to address the cause of the acidosis. The cause of acidosis is lifestyle choices. 4) If you raise your pH level too high, then you will experience alkalosis (which is as harmful as acidosis). Name one documented case where there is a person or has been a person who has or had lymph that is too alkaline. 5) Even if you ate “all the right things” you wouldn’t necessarily be in the clear. Acidosis is a result of lifestyle choices. Here's a list of twelve essential needs, keeping in mind, how one goes about satisfying any of these needs then becomes a lifestyle choice or factor: Air; Water; Food; Sunshine; Exercise; Sleep; Thoughts; Feelings; Community/Spirituality; Free of things (problems) outside of con...
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:28 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

Is there laboratory tests for lymphatic fluid health. To help make sense of it, imagine we are 30 years in the future and the science has advanced a long ways in nephrology. So as part of routine tests, let us say the person is found to have lymph and kidney function going downhill. Ideally then the person could be started on a treatment protocol that was really effective in regaining full function of the system. In people with severe disease states or vulnerability to malfunction in this system, this will probably mean drugs to heal up the system. I don't think those drugs even exist yet, but I could be wrong, as I've only spent 5-10 hours reading clinical studies on kidney disease. For other people with less severe disease, lifestyle changes might be able to help their system to regain full function. There are two major limitations with lifestyle changes. The first is that in some severe disease states, advanced age, genetic predisposition, etc., even lifestyle changes are not able ...
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:37 am
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

When that balance is thrown out of whack health problems can arise. They, in and of themselves, aren't the cause of health problems. Strictly speaking, the cause of health problems is lifestyle choices. How today's culturally predominant lifestyle choices manifest in the body is easily seen in the [effects of] backed up and overly acidic lymphatic fluids in the lymphatic systems of most people. Edit to add: Waste products are removed via lymph fluids. How are the waste products removed from the body? Through the kidneys. What if the kidneys are not filtering the waste products from the lymph in order that these wastes can leave the body? The skin acts as the third kidney, which manifest as various skin conditions. What if the kidneys are not filtering, and there are more wastes than the skin can handle in a timely manner? Cells are swimming in the acidic wastes in the lymph fluid. What happens to cells that are swimming in acidic wastes for any length of time? Since acids are corrosiv...
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:55 am
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

ICfreely » December 29th, 2018, 10:40 pm wrote:
Your blood pH

state of metabolic acidosis

state of metabolic alkalosis


respiratory alkalosis


your blood tends to be too alkaline

your blood tends to be too acidic

alkaline effect on your blood


your blood tends towards acidosis


your blood tends towards being too alkaline

blood pH



And not one mention of LYMPHATIC fluid. There are two main fluids in the body, blood and lymph. It's the acidic LYMPH fluid (congested within the body, with kidneys that aren't optimally able to filter out the waste) that causes health problems.

There's four to five times more lymph fluid in the body than there is blood in the body !!!
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:08 am
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

* The lymphatic system is the sewer system of the body. Blood feeds; lymph cleans. Blood is the kitchen, and lymph, the bathroom. (It has been explained here by Kham, and not sure if anyone else here has, as well.) Lymph collects the metabolic waste from the 100 trillion cells of the body. This waste is then transported to lymph nodes for some processing (the bacteria will make the acidic waste less acidic) and then out of the body through the kidneys. If the kidneys aren't filtering, then the skin acts as the third kidney, hence, any skin conditions that are witnessed in people. If the acidic lymph is backed up, the cells that the lymph surrounds are bathed in acid. Acid is corrosive. A cell bathing in a corrosive medium is going to suffer damage. That's how what is called "disease" occurs. Simple as that. That's why you want to feed your body alkaline-ash food. You also want to feed your body energetic food. Fresh raw properly-grown picked-ripe fruit fits this bill perfectl...
by HonestlyNow
Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:49 pm
 
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Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

Your passive aggressive doubt seeding is quite entertaining sometimes HN. So your point is that I call it a hypothesis? What would you call that YouTubers speech on the lymphatic system? One could argue that it is even less than a hypothesis since no clear argument is laid out that could be tested through observations or experiments (you know, the only tool we have to actually figure things out). Sigh. I offered a different way of looking at the problem, and starting places that you can do your own research and gain understanding of this way of seeing the situation. Dr. Morse has helped tens of thousands leave their debilitating "diseases" behind over the course of forty-plus years of clinical experience. He has clear arguments, and decades of observation and experiments. He's had decades of experience before starting his YouTube channel. I beg of you to open your mind and do your own research instead of blaming the messenger for bringing to you a paradigm that is different ...
by HonestlyNow
Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:28 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

patrix » December 24th, 2018, 4:54 am wrote: My hypothesis that I think is supported by Prof. Seyfrieds research and Dr Simoncinis therapies is that cancer is our bodies last line defense against "stuff that grows in us". Call it fungus, bacteria or unknown. And if we just let the cancer do it's job and stop feeding the growing things what they seem to like - carbohydrates, we have a good chance of a complete recovery. And treating the tumours with baking soda seems effective too considering Dr Simoncinis has been deprived of his license and sent to jail for doing just that.

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"To understand cancer, and all other chronic disease, we really just need a firm grasp of the lymphatic system, and the two sides of chemistry, acid and alkaline, and the rest will fall into place."

The Stern Method interview, Fruit, The Lymphatic System, and Cancer: What You Need to Know: Dr. Robert Morse, 88 minutes.

Google search, robert morse cancer the raw truth
by HonestlyNow
Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:51 pm
 
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Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering Nutrition

And what does this have to do with nutrition? Let me tell you. To create the emotion that it is wrong to eat animal products has been (in my humble opinion) a long term goal of the Nutwork. Need I say Disney? Mad cow disease? Cowspiracy? I like animals and I dislike that animals suffer. But I also understand that our food production requires animals to be sustainable and that we require some animal products to not become malnourished. We do neither ourselves nor the animals any service by destroying our own health and the Earth’s ecosystem. The motive? A sick/malnurished population is easier to control and more susceptible to PsyOps. A centralized food production system where food is delivered from abroad with countries that are not self sustainable is also favorable. Small scale local farming is not. What the ""nutwork"" wants is a violent world. The continuation of the torture and killing of animals for a human's pleasure is pure violence. Do they use their "...
by HonestlyNow
Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:43 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering Nutrition
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Re: Engineering Nutrition

What if this topic is so crucial that it warrants a storm? What if attempting to solve the issues at hand is worth disturbing the balance? Besides, I find the debate highly civilised. However, I must say that - at least to me personally - this (domesticated animals) is a question that pertains not to nutrition but rather to morality . Which is, as I understand it, unfortunately OT. To bring in the environment though is just another OT . So either both of them are permissible, or none of them is. Because you see, when talking veganism, it usually rests on exactly those 3 pillars: morality, environment and nutrition. (I tend to ignore the last two because that knowledge is entirely dependent on scientific authority, and you all know that you can hardly trust anything that comes from that corner). Patrix said that Veganism is a Psyop; in a way, I cannot but agree. They clearly do push it. They ALWAYS go for Nutrition and Environment to muddy the waters, spamming both sides of the argumen...
by HonestlyNow
Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:47 am
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering Nutrition
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Views: 9155

Re: Engineering Nutrition

Re: Allan Savory talk.
He mentioned our biological need. From the context of the talk, I imagine that he is stuck in the paradigm that man "needs" to consume animals.

He posits that the only solution (to desertification) is to establish herds of grazing animals. I don't see it as the only way. Trees are cooling. Simple solution: plant trees!
by HonestlyNow
Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:43 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering Nutrition
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Re: Engineering disease

patrix » December 17th, 2018, 3:25 am wrote:I've looked at nutrition and medicine for many years and concluded that claims that animal fat/meat is harmful to humans is not based on science.

Hmm.
Perhaps, "nutrition and medicine" and "science" have not an inkling of interest in pursuing a study in that which would put "nutrition and medicine" out of business. Therefore, if that is the case, there would be no "science" for you to study in the raw fruit living sphere of inquiry, and therefore, it would leave the study of such to a grassroots level of inquiry, i.e., people like you and me, who can get guidance from those who are further along the same path.

Disclaimer: This is not to say that medicine has no place in our lives; acute cases (emergencies) can be helped by a good medical doctor to bring stasis to the body. Good surgeons are needed as well, so long as they aren't cutting out body parts!
by HonestlyNow
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:26 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

patrix » December 16th, 2018, 5:35 pm wrote:But humans aren't herbivores you see HN and that's why it's a bad idea for us to eat raw grass. I hope you can follow.

I follow perfectly. We are frugivores.

patrix wrote:"We require living energy" (stated as some kind of self evident fact)

Well, go take a Solid Food Vacation, and then you'll also see it as a self-evident fact. It's time to test out an idea whose time has come. If you don't explore this other modality yourself, how can you speak on it?
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:55 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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Re: Engineering disease

simonshack » December 16th, 2018, 4:58 pm wrote:It's a survival game here on this world of ours - let this be clear! And welcome to planet Earth. -_-

I'm not understanding (the tone of) your reply.

Yes, every species eats something. Because we have a thinking mind instead of an instinctual mind, we can make choices that are different from what might be optimal. That's not to say that any other species that are not in their optimal environment won't eat something that is not their optimal species specifice diet. This also doesn't discount the fact that humans have a species specific diet.
by HonestlyNow
Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:17 pm
 
Forum: General World Affairs
Topic: Engineering disease
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