9/11 SIMCITY

It has taken less than 10 years to pry open the can of worms enshrouding the pathetic 9/11 scam. The central role of the major newsmedia corporations to pull off this sordid "terror" simulation has now been comprehensively exposed. Before joining this forum, please get familiar with the research at: http://www.septemberclues.info

Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby brianv on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:25 pm

The Look Cretin "photograph" reports 285 copymove operations, and it shows!

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Equinox on Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:54 pm

brianv wrote:The Look Cretin "photograph" reports 285 copymove operations, and it shows!

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True that :)
That tool you use is correct… I used and trialed it myself viewtopic.php?f=27&t=485&p=2367828&hilit=copy+move+tool#p2367837
I don’t have it anymore (new comp) but if you have some spare minutes if it is possible too generate some more copy move attack results on the plane photos the more the better. :)


Unless we live on some kind of Fantasy Island like our plane hugging dwarf like debunker in the gif above. Its also true that..

There is an abnormal amount of compression artifacts around the airframe relative to other objects in the captured image, which is surprising given the relatively high resolution of the videos.


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The vertical stabilizer is toooo big!

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By the way Brian the French seemed right upset about the fake Hoaxama bin Laden Photos on the Net that they are now screening for Le fakes..

http://www.imediaethics.org/index.php?o ... il&id=1433

In a press release posted on Editor & Publisher, foreign wire service Agence France-Presse (AFP) announced that it would start using Tungstene software to check if "third-party" photos have been altered.



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With their own software/// fetching for a about 50,000 :lol:

Site-- http://www.exomakina.com/eXo_maKina/Tungstene.html


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Archive/source-


Ronald Pordy

"About the Photographer:
pordyworks represents the work of New York-based photographer, Ron Pordy. Although largely self-taught, he has studied formally at FIT and The Maine Photographic Workshops. We are now premiering two new series of images stemming from the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City. Many of these images are contained in the permanent collections of the Museum of the City of New York, New York Historical Society and the Smithsonian Institute. However, they have never before been shown to the general public by the photographer and depict the magnitude of the horror and heartbreak of that day as captured from a unique elevated position on the East River...." -
pordyworks.com


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31fL2LxClo


FOX5 & FOX11 L.A. (KTTV) — Chopper5
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laNj_esH-i0



Luke Cremin — amateur photographer
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"This image just prior to the plane impact with the South tower still, a year later, puts a shiver down my spine. Image taken from Atlantic Basin due South of the site of the WTC."


Contributor's location on 9/11: Brooklyn, New York
Cite as: Luke Cremin, Image #1200, The September 11 Digital Archive, 10 September 2002, http://911digitalarchive.org/images/details/1200
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby simonshack on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:36 pm

Equinox wrote:The NBC Ball shot is most laughable video when compared to a scaled Boeing 767-200.

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Yes, Equinox - the BALL is quite hilarious.

Today, I just happened to bump into the Youtube channel of "911TruthVideos". The guy is now "humbly apologetic about his initial support of the no plane theory"... To understand what I'm talking about, please first watch his video here - and read his comments in the video description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65M_smGewo (682.000+ views! :blink: )

I then took a closer look at the guy's (very blurry) version of NBC's clip of "Flight 175 striking WTC2". As you surely know, September Clues also features a blurry version of that clip - which shows some odd markers flickering up and down the left edge of WTC2. Now, this guy's version does NOT have these markers - but instead...

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Just as a reminder, here's a gif of my an old version of that NBC clip (which I downloaded years ago from two different private VHS tapes of the 9/11 broadcasts) :
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Anyhow - WHAT ARE THE ODDS of both these blurry versions showing 'funny things' going on with the left edge of WTC2? (Note: the current NBC archives do not feature the above oddities - but we have shown time and again how the current official archives have been 'cleansed' and re-edited. Watch my "FOXED OUT part1 & part2 on Youtube).
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Equinox on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:39 pm

Anyhow - WHAT ARE THE ODDS of both these blurry versions showing 'funny things' going on with the left edge of WTC2?

The NBC WTC is really shaky in the Nist footage even… It squirms and moves around… It stands out as fake easily.

9/11 Truth should really be asking… No matter what version Of the NBC footage they are looking it all comes down too this…. Is this footage fake? Can it be proven … Well lets look at the NBC plane and actually properly use the 3d model of the same aircraft!?
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Step one – Grab the best Possible Shot available of the plane closest to the face of the Wtc to use as a size comparison... –

Zoomed/sharpened
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2nd shot for clarity sake… Match up the plane in the footage, with the size of the 3d model which is actual size of the side of the WTC. (Like as you suggested in September clues.)
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Whilst some of the actual other 2nd hit videos it comes up as reasonable match. The Plane in the NBC shot is no where close... It’s busted as a fake even in the finest of finest clarity available...

The speeds are just fantasy.

The airspeed of 400 knots at sea level is well outside the maximum operating speed of the Boeing 767-200 and therefore the perps would run the risk of either total structural failure or localized structural failures, namely wing fairings breaking off, engine cowlings breaking off, control surfaces breaking off or becoming inoperative and handling difficulties.

Above all it’s impossible for those speeds to be reached at that sea level.

The masking lines are really evident in the footage...

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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJi6ma7nrU8
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby fbenario on Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:19 am

Page 29 of this thread takes far, far, FAR too long to load. No more please, I'm begging for mercy. (I've got the standard US speed of 6.0.)

Lock this page, we'll start page 30 of the thread.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Equinox on Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:58 am

simonshack wrote:
Just as a reminder, here's a gif of my old, blurry version of that NBC clip (which I remember downloading years ago from someone who had taped on VHS the 9/11 broadcasts). Yes, I know: I should have kept a record of that 'someone' - my bad!




I located and found the markers and are here mate.. :)


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUUSbWk60M

Hyper jump straight to it with this link--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUUSbWk60M#t=1m51s
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby fbenario on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:47 am

fbenario wrote:Page 29 of this thread takes far, far, FAR too long to load. No more please, I'm begging for mercy. (I've got the standard U.S. speed of 6.0.)

Lock this page, we'll start page 30 of the thread.

Oh my god. Today when I opened this thread on the current page (unfortunately still page 29, thanks for trying Simon, but your efforts didn't work) it froze my computer completely for 15 minutes, and I had to do a hard shut-down. It is now the worst page in the history of the forum, and obviously now the longest time to load.

Unfortunately, to my computer this page is now malware.

Equinox, how could you possibly post even more images/videos after reading my prior June 23 comment? I know to a nearly 100% certainty that you are a good guy and a highly valued member of this forum by many of us, and this doesn't affect any of that. Why did you do this?

Admins, I don't think you have any more choice. Please do whatever it takes to lock this page forevermore, and start page 30.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Equinox on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:23 am

I took all the gifs and should run fine, sorry about not noticing your post before I was on my way out the door and only had 2 seconds to post up.... Anyway it should run fine now :)
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby sentientlinergy on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:32 am

Freeze! Give me all your tapes!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv87j-e8w7A
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby diagonal2 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:40 am

sentientlinergy wrote:Freeze! Give me all your tapes!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv87j-e8w7A


03:02
Proof that they used missiles... and proof that the entire thing was a hoax, props to whoever released this tape.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Equinox on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:42 pm

diagonal2 wrote:
sentientlinergy wrote:Freeze! Give me all your tapes!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv87j-e8w7A


03:02
Proof that they used missiles... and proof that the entire thing was a hoax, props to whoever released this tape.



Its just trying to use video footage as evidence to support a “theory” that missiles were used on 9/11. By looking at the explosions of the world trade centre on 9/11 and to assert with the video footage,that missiles were used.

Well truth of the matter is, we have gone through ALL of those videos that were featured in that movie, and found there lies a pile of flaws that is higher than any theory to do with missile... The footage is fake and made in a studio… Simon looked at the missile theory many years ago, with September clues.. and much of us have looked at it later in the past year or so…

Is it logical missiles were used? Well in my mind … YES (and more than likely were) .. BUT…. At the end of the day. To be correct It’s a fair call to state we cannot make any assessment off what hit the Trade Centre, because there is more than enough flaws in the footage that gives more than enough reason to state it is fake..

Here are just three found in some of those videos posted… I can get the rest if you need more..
As all of those videos in that movie are just fakes... :)

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... 0#p2368341

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Maat on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:45 pm

Equinox wrote:It’s perfectly feasible to believe in a shock and awe missile
Would have been used on 9/11 (and Due to the pinpoint accuracy only a missile, more than likely)..
Based on a military video of their alleged "accuracy"? :lol: :lol:

Nah, sorry EQ, it's not "feasible" nor does it make any practical sense for a risk free simulation. As I said before (June 6th):
viewtopic.php?p=2370971#p2370971
Maat wrote:
And, what a great radio opportunity, Hoi! [...]

I was surprised by your mentioning "missiles", which I not only thought was a long abandoned "truther" hangout (e.g. Brianv's & Simon's post here) but frankly never made any logical sense to me for a media hoaxed, CGI movie event to disguise the demolition of buildings in what was obviously a totally contained & controlled physical area in Manhattan.

I've suspected for some time that that red herring was deliberate bait for 'conspiracists' to promote so that the entire 'false flag' theory would be more easily dismissed as nonsense by real military people with direct knowledge of military protocols & ordnance. Remembering it was an essentially civilian (NYPA, FBI, NSA etc.) op, so I could see no way that any literal 'military' input would have been considered a viable option, regardless.

And... viewtopic.php?p=2370974#p2370974
simonshack wrote:...
And yes, Maat - I would now definitely avoid any mention of my speculative AGM missile theory, as put forth in September Clues back in 2008. Whether right or (most likely) wrong, it is quite simply an unnecessary topic to mention/address in any presentation of our myriad of solid, collective findings. "KISS" is the way to go. I've always strived to simplify every aspect of this research - so I highly appreciate every advice and effort from everyone to "keep it simple". As Hoi rightly says, we are no media experts - but that doesn't mean we don't understand that communicating our findings has to be kept as sharp and simple as possible.

I fully concur with the substance of the last paragraph of your above post, Maat. I'm impressed by how much (perfect) sense it makes...
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby diagonal2 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:25 pm

"In committing a crime, the idea is to leave as little mess as possible, because every bit of mess is a potential clue. Even in the event of a successfully targeted crash, real aircraft, scattering wreckage and bodies everywhere creates an enormous amount of mess to cover up compared to the relatively neat problem of a few witnesses and a few conspiracy nuts trying to tell people what the video shows. " http://www.911closeup.com/

In other words: No air planes, no terrorists - just plain old Hollywood magic. I totally get it now!
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby Heiwa on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:37 pm

diagonal2 wrote:The missile theory is plausible: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/acm.htm



Well, you can fly as many missiles you like into the weak, light top of any skyscraper and ... nothing will ever happen to the strong, heavy bottom carrying the weak light top ... as explained at http://heiwaco.tripod.com/tower.htm .

Reason is that the weak, light top of any structure incl. skyscrapers cannot crush the strong, heavy bottom of the structure carrying the top under any circumstances.

If you see a weak, light top of a skyscraper crushing the strong, heavy bottom, on, e.g. TV, you can be sure it is an animation using computer graphic images that is broadcasted.

If you think I am wrong and you can prove that a top of a skyscraper can crush the bottom, you can collect €1 000 000:- at http://heiwaco.tripod.com/chall.htm . No Norwegian has so far managed it but they are not alone. Nobody has managed to collect the €1M. You should wonder why.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:10 pm

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MY OLD MISSILE SPECULATION (2008)


Oh well...I guess I'll be forever haunted by my old speculation (as made in September Clues back in 2008) that an AGM 158 missile might have been used to strike tower 2 - and so helping to 'explain' those eyewitnesses reporting a 'small aircraft' of some sort striking WTC2. At the time, I thought the missile hypothesis had some validity - but not any longer, knowing what we know today: there was no need for anything to strike the WTC. Those of you who still hold on to the missile hypothesis are free to do so - but the bottom line is : it matters little. To be sure, we can NOT make any conclusions one way or another on the strength of the available 9/11 videos - as they are ALL COMPUTER ANIMATIONS.

The logic behind this should - by now - be crystal clear to any sound thinker: no conclusions can be drawn as to how EXACTLY the events played out in Manhattan that morning; the only certainty we have is that there exists NO real / authentic private imagery of anything crashing into the twin towers.

Here's a frame from a recently released (2010) animation - credited to one "Steve Vigilante". It should be obvious even to the casual/untrained observer that this fireball is sharper than the rest of the picture - and has been animated/composited on top of a blurrier background: (source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwKQXsXJDX4 )

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Even Playstation does more realistic explosions/fireballs than this - for chrissakes.

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Mask edge of Woolworth Building composited into the foreground:
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