It's back up. Maybe compare it to the archived sites?
http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/jsp/index.jsp
9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS
Sorry if I maybe waisting everyones time with this, but I'm a bit lost... I seem to have no trouble opening up the deleted site. Is this the site thats been wiped? "http://www.cantorfamilies.com/".
Because it opens for me just fine... :unsure:
Because it opens for me just fine... :unsure:
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Ok - so it was down for a couple of days for 'maintenance', I presume? -
and reappered by happenstance about an hour after I posted my post above???
Guess they're playing with us.
Now, should we not ask them formally why they only have listed 349 of the alleged "658 deceased CF employees" ?
Been checking them again with the archived CF memorial. It hasn't changed. For the record, here are the numbers of employees listed in alphabetical order :
A:12
B:28
C:25
D:21
E:2
F:12
G:19
H:12
I:7
J:7
K:9
L:19
M:33
N:10
O:8
P:27
Q:1
R:23
S:41
T:6
U:3
V:7
W:15
X:0
Y:0
Z:2
TOTAL:349
Damn - if I were a family member of one of the 309 'ignored' Cantor employees I would be raving mad !
and reappered by happenstance about an hour after I posted my post above???
Guess they're playing with us.
Now, should we not ask them formally why they only have listed 349 of the alleged "658 deceased CF employees" ?
Been checking them again with the archived CF memorial. It hasn't changed. For the record, here are the numbers of employees listed in alphabetical order :
A:12
B:28
C:25
D:21
E:2
F:12
G:19
H:12
I:7
J:7
K:9
L:19
M:33
N:10
O:8
P:27
Q:1
R:23
S:41
T:6
U:3
V:7
W:15
X:0
Y:0
Z:2
TOTAL:349
Damn - if I were a family member of one of the 309 'ignored' Cantor employees I would be raving mad !
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Sunshine,sunshine05 4 Mar 14 2010, 03:16 PM wrote: It is time consuming but it is the only way to really show what I'm seeing. I may post about one or two of them here to see if you all agree that there is something and what the next step should be.
I very much appreciate help with this - thanks for your time! One question: I am wondering if it might be that only my own IP gets, somehow, blocked at times on such sites. I've had this happen before ('perp sites' closing and reappearing). In this case, I think it was on friday night that I first noticed that the CF site was down. Did you, by any chance, also notice it was down over this weekend? Thx for a kind reply.
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I checked your message here and immidiatly went to the site to find it was down. Then I did some research in the WHOIS database and came up with some same weird stuff as when I searched the Manny Badillo and Sgroi thingy.simonshack @ Mar 14 2010, 04:26 PM wrote: In this case, I think it was on friday night that I first noticed that the CF site was down. Did you, by any chance, also notice it was down over this weekend? Thx for a kind reply.
At that time....... midday and early afternoon GMT it was down....
About the thing in the WHOIS database that is similar to the Sgroi / Manny Badillo is that where the site is hosted there are around 30 other sites hosted also from the same DNS.
Then there and from the same name is bought several domains which are not in use....and the number is pretty much the same......
It remind me rather of a domain keeper straw man .....but anyway......can be coincidence.
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Yes Hoi,hoi.polloi 4 Mar 14 2010, 06:35 PM wrote: Which is even stranger because CNN has 663 deceased CF employees. CNN is better with Cantor's paperwork than Cantor?
And the 'Economic Experts' say "685".
http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Cantor: ... ities.html
Oh right - of course - it's just a typo originating from the official "658" number... :rolleyes:
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As it appears that Cantor are smack bang in the middle of the corporate fraud that is 9/11, I chose to look into one of the UK victims that worked for them, Martin Michael Wortley.
Martin Wortley has matching data in the UK BMD index and was a twin of Paul. Doing a search of him in the UK didn't garner many results, apart from this very odd article that appeared online:
The family of Martin Wortley told how he managed to speak to his twin brother, Paul, and their mother, Celia, on his mobile phone as he and his colleagues tried to make their way from a 102nd floor office to the roof, where they hoped they would be picked up by a rescue helicopter.
His family tried to encourage Mr Wortley, 29, a dealer for stockbrokers Cantor Fitzgerald, by telling him that firefighters were on the way. But he clearly believed it was hopeless and before he was cut off told them: "Be strong - I love you all".
Mr Wortley's step grandmother Morva Wortley, 48, of Woolpit, near Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, described what are almost certainly his last minutes of life. She said: "He told his mother he couldn't breathe and couldn't get downstairs because of the heat, so they were going up in the hope of getting on the roof.
"His brother tried to keep him alive by saying the fire department were on their way. But I don't think Martin thought he was going to make it. He said: 'I'm going up on to the roof', but we don't think he could have got that far.
"By the time he called he had gone from his offices on the 102nd floor to the 105th floor. He had got up three floors in the heat and smoke of that building, but there were several more to go. He said he was really struggling, although he was a strong guy and very fit."
Mrs Wortley, an insurance executive, and her husband Ronnie, 76, watched their television in despair at home in Suffolk as the towers collapsed.
She continued: "We thought people would be getting out by helicopter even though there was this terrible fire, but it was like a missile hitting the building.
Then I discovered that Wortley's parents, Mick & Celia, emigrated to the States when Wortley was 5 and that he had dual citizenship. So, a quick search for him in the US brought up some remarkable results. Like the last UK "victim that I searched for, Suria Clarke, he appears to be alive and well and living in New Jersey (check the age & relatives name for confirmation that we have the same Martin Wortley)
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... portType=1
I found a tribute to him on the Mahwah High School class of 1990 website, which would corroborate that this is the right Martin Wortley (see list of previous addresses).
Now it gets interesting....
searching through the blogs (see first listed) I found my first photo of Martin. Then I found an interesting blog on the weblinks area, which featured a photo of Martin's twin, Paul with another man called, Nick Brophy, who looks more a twin to Martin than his brother. :o
I have looked at 3 photos of "Nick Brophy" and he and Martin Wortley are in my opinion, the same man.
I have never been able to post pictures on this site, so if one of you good people would illustrate this post for me, I would be grateful. There are many images of Brophy/Wortley on their blogsite.
martinbrophy.blogspot.com
Oh, the Martin is his wife's surname. ;)
This took me about an hour to discover and I'm in a little shock that these people are so brazen.
Martin Wortley has matching data in the UK BMD index and was a twin of Paul. Doing a search of him in the UK didn't garner many results, apart from this very odd article that appeared online:
The family of Martin Wortley told how he managed to speak to his twin brother, Paul, and their mother, Celia, on his mobile phone as he and his colleagues tried to make their way from a 102nd floor office to the roof, where they hoped they would be picked up by a rescue helicopter.
His family tried to encourage Mr Wortley, 29, a dealer for stockbrokers Cantor Fitzgerald, by telling him that firefighters were on the way. But he clearly believed it was hopeless and before he was cut off told them: "Be strong - I love you all".
Mr Wortley's step grandmother Morva Wortley, 48, of Woolpit, near Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, described what are almost certainly his last minutes of life. She said: "He told his mother he couldn't breathe and couldn't get downstairs because of the heat, so they were going up in the hope of getting on the roof.
"His brother tried to keep him alive by saying the fire department were on their way. But I don't think Martin thought he was going to make it. He said: 'I'm going up on to the roof', but we don't think he could have got that far.
"By the time he called he had gone from his offices on the 102nd floor to the 105th floor. He had got up three floors in the heat and smoke of that building, but there were several more to go. He said he was really struggling, although he was a strong guy and very fit."
Mrs Wortley, an insurance executive, and her husband Ronnie, 76, watched their television in despair at home in Suffolk as the towers collapsed.
She continued: "We thought people would be getting out by helicopter even though there was this terrible fire, but it was like a missile hitting the building.
Then I discovered that Wortley's parents, Mick & Celia, emigrated to the States when Wortley was 5 and that he had dual citizenship. So, a quick search for him in the US brought up some remarkable results. Like the last UK "victim that I searched for, Suria Clarke, he appears to be alive and well and living in New Jersey (check the age & relatives name for confirmation that we have the same Martin Wortley)
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... portType=1
I found a tribute to him on the Mahwah High School class of 1990 website, which would corroborate that this is the right Martin Wortley (see list of previous addresses).
Now it gets interesting....
searching through the blogs (see first listed) I found my first photo of Martin. Then I found an interesting blog on the weblinks area, which featured a photo of Martin's twin, Paul with another man called, Nick Brophy, who looks more a twin to Martin than his brother. :o
I have looked at 3 photos of "Nick Brophy" and he and Martin Wortley are in my opinion, the same man.
I have never been able to post pictures on this site, so if one of you good people would illustrate this post for me, I would be grateful. There are many images of Brophy/Wortley on their blogsite.
martinbrophy.blogspot.com
Oh, the Martin is his wife's surname. ;)
This took me about an hour to discover and I'm in a little shock that these people are so brazen.