9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Unread postby brianv on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:13 pm

The "Gentlemen Bank Robbing" fraternity don't like to leave dead bodies when there is a Heist, so from that point of view the entire operation was a success. Zero deaths, I bet it was high on the list! Gettting away with the Loot being the other! It had the added bonus of giving President Numbskull a boost and giving the twitchy-eyed military the War they wanted. The robbers knew what they were doing!!
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Unread postby simonshack on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:36 pm

SmokingGunII 4 Mar 24 2010, 02:19 PM wrote: It appears that there is one rule for some......


SG,

Yes - this is a complex matter, (hehe - I think we all knew THIS much) and I'd say we should get a little more tolerant of each other... It is only logical that the perps would have used different layers of deception in order to generate maximum confusion - just as they used different video-fakery techniques to muddy the waters. Having said that, I can't envision scores of people lending their face to 9/11 memorial portraits and tranquilly getting on with their lives - there must be something else going on here. Let's keep calm and focused now - as we need infighting here as much as a pain (or a bomb) in our pants.
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Unread postby simonshack on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:56 pm

simonshack @ Mar 24 2010, 01:40 PM wrote:
brianv 4 Mar 24 2010, 01:11 PM wrote: Simon, does the website specify when each "person's" record was entered?


Right, I've been trying to figure that out, but no - that's not specified. I've submitted a support ticket at their help desk asking just that. Will let you know.



Brian - they responded pretty swiftly... :




Hello Simon,

Thank you for contacting Archives.com

We do not keep the informaiton on when a record was uploaded to our site, because of the fact that we are updating records weekly.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Sarah
Member Services Representative

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Unread postby brianv on Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:20 pm

simonshack 4 Mar 24 2010, 04:56 PM wrote:
simonshack 4 Mar 24 2010, 01:40 PM wrote:
brianv 4 Mar 24 2010, 01:11 PM wrote: Simon, does the website specify when each "person's" record was entered?


Right, I've been trying to figure that out, but no - that's not specified. I've submitted a support ticket at their help desk asking just that. Will let you know.



Brian - they responded pretty swiftly... :




Hello Simon,

We do not keep the informaiton on when a record was uploaded to our site, because of the fact that we are updating records weekly.

Sarah
Member Services Representative





Well that is the lamest reasoning I've ever heard, Specially lame, coming from a Data Application Area and Database driven site! Thanks anyway Si!

Sorry, one more question! How are the records entered?
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Unread postby simonshack on Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:36 pm

brianv @ Mar 24 2010, 06:20 PM wrote:
Sorry, one more question! How are the records entered?


I'll submit that question too - and a few more - when the time is ripe.
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Unread postby simonshack on Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:07 am

idschmyd @ Mar 24 2010, 11:10 AM wrote: Allow me to giggle again at The Abates by CNN and Legacy.

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Idschmyd !

I've added the Abbate brothers to the website.

http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims_ ... alyses.htm

Thanks so much for your contribution.
I hadn't noticed the "Abbate" New York Times portraits before!
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Unread postby Osmosis on Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:01 am

simonshack 4 Mar 24 2010, 09:28 AM wrote:Dung!...I'm inclined to think these "living 9/11 victims" is some sort of refined form of d?pistage, but anyways here goes :

I just found this "living person" :





Honor E Wainio age 36 Plainfield, NJ

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Of course, Honor Elizabeth Wainio was 27 when her flight93 crashed in Shanksville... :rolleyes: She was from Watchung,NJ ...
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /1600.html


Plainfield & Watchung are right next to each other...
http://maps.google.it/maps/place?source ... CAoQ8gEwAA

:blink:



She's also found at "LookUpAnyone" - a free person search engine:
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... hform=name

***********************************************************


STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *

Ok, folks - seems like you can find just about anyone alive / 9 years older/ living at the same address as when they 'died' in 2001. This seems to take us into a new chapter of this massive 9/11 scam...

Just check it out for yourself. Go to the CNN MEMORIAL, choose a name - and search it at "LookUpAnyone"...Here's firefighter Lee S Fehling, for instance:

http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=0

Here he is, 9 years younger (and from Wantagh) on the CNN memorial:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /2193.html

This is getting silly - I know - but that's what 9/11 was !! :lol:




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Woman on 9/11 Victims List is Alive
http://www.werismyki.com/artcls/woman_o ... _alive.htm


Ok Simon.....just looked up Todd M. Beamer.........gives his correct, current age and shows him living in Hightstown, NJ. Looked up Hightstown and its just a stone's throw from Cranbury NJ where his wife has or used to have a Million Dollar Residence.

I say its time for us to pool our resources, hire a Private Dick, and get to the bottom of this!!
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Unread postby Osmosis on Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:22 am

Wait a Minute.........Just looked up my mom who died 12 years ago and it lists her as living, with what would be her current age and last address!!!

Clearly, this service is worthless and not ever updated!!
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Unread postby antipodean on Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:56 am

Osmosis 4 Mar 25 2010, 04:22 AM wrote:Wait a Minute.........Just looked up my mom who died 12 years ago and it lists her as living, with what would be her current age and last address!!!

Clearly, this service is worthless and not ever updated!!


It seemed to work perfectly well here for Simon. Maybe you were just unlucky.

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... &p=1578454
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Unread postby simonshack on Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:11 am

Osmosis 4 Mar 25 2010, 03:22 AM wrote: Wait a Minute.........Just looked up my mom who died 12 years ago and it lists her as living, with what would be her current age and last address!!!

Clearly, this service is worthless and not ever updated!!


Osmosis,

I don't know how you're operating that service, since you failed to find the relevant Todd Beamer. The relevant Todd M Beamer is 41 years of age (he was supposedly 32 in 2001), and is actually listed as a resident of Cranbury,NJ.

He is also to be found on this free People-Search engine:
Todd Morgan Beamer on LOOK UP ANYONE
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1


Strange that you found your mom. I'll just have to take your word for it.
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Unread postby brianv on Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:35 pm

Osmosis 4 Mar 25 2010, 04:22 AM wrote: Wait a Minute.........Just looked up my mom who died 12 years ago and it lists her as living, with what would be her current age and last address!!!

Clearly, this service is worthless and not ever updated!!


Have you contacted them about this error? Shouldn't that be your prime concern?

Maybe you could ask them why their weekly updated pay-for-service failed to catch your mom! No disrespect like!
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Unread postby simonshack on Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:21 pm

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It is getting all too obvious that the perps are investing in the "Victims' Families" meme. This is from "Russia Today":

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-10-13/victi ... ight.html#

The NYCCAN organization is nothing but a team of actors recruited to entertain and uphold the idea that there were victims on 9/11 - and that their families are verry verry angry. Ok, most of you already knew this, but these facts have to be repeated over and over again for the casual readers of this forum.

And those actors are atrocious.
9/11 ACTORS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

I'll say it again: The towers were empty. No one died. If anyone did, their families should be indeed verrry angry and motivated to shed light on all this. If you're a family member of someone who died on 9/11, please join the forum and provide verifiable documentation of your loved one.
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Unread postby Heiwa on Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:20 pm

Correspondence with Ms Borakova - start from bottom:

No reply so far to last message.


Dear Ms Borakova,

thanks for quick reply. I doubt very much that the victims' dates of birth
are secret info.

Re lists of victims there are many different ones with different numbers of
victims, names, etc. I only asked OCME for its list of the 1626 dead
persons you had identified and you gave me a list with almost 3000 names.
Confusing. To confirm somebody's death I assume you need a date of birth?

Can you confirm that OCME has a list of 1626 named victims with dates of
birth, etc., and that OCME really identified these 1626 persons using
recognized methods?

Best regards

Anders Bj?rkman
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/blgb.htm




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From: "Borakove, Ellen" <EBorakove@ocme.nyc.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:22 PM
To: "Anders Bj?rkman" <anders.bjorkman@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: RE: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-538613997 Message to
Agency Head, OCME - Other

> Dear Mr. Bjorkman,
> The names of the victims are public information and have been read aloud
> every year since 2001. However, the victims' personal information is NOT
> public information.
>
> Ellen Borakove
> Director, Public Affairs
> Office of Chief Medical Examiner
> 520 First Avenue
> New York, NY 10016
> Tel 212 447 2041
> Fax 212 447 2755
> Web http://www.nyc.gov/ocme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anders Bj?rkman [mailto:anders.bjorkman@wanadoo.fr]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:27 AM
> To: Borakove, Ellen
> Subject: Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-538613997 Message to
> Agency Head, OCME - Other
> Importance: High
>
> Dear Ms Borakova,
>
> Can you provide the list of the 1626 persons identified by OCME, pls,
> incl.
> their birth dates (and why not addresses)?
>
> It's becoming clear that there are no (or very few) BIRTH DATES/RECORDS
> (mm/dd/year) available for the alleged 9/11 victims.
>
> This information seems to have been a major hurdle for the perps to
> falsify.
>
> If you/OCME cannot provide the list, pls say so.
>
> Best regards
>
> Anders Bj?rkman
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Unread postby D.Duck on Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:39 pm

Heiwa,

S? j?vla bra jobbat, Anders.

Keep pushing Heiwa and demand answers.

You have said in another post that you think Richard Gage is a brave man and I have said I don't agree but I will say this and I really mean it:

YOU ARE A BRAVE MAN HEIWA.


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Unread postby hoi.polloi on Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:49 pm

I don't buy this. Do you actually believe you have found real information?

SmokingGun, explain the case for this being real info of some kind without physically transporting yourself to these places and finding out. Don't play like the display of any of this information on your computer monitor suddenly makes it real, nor that my accusation is out of line.

There was indeed the enforcement of embracing false information from that crowd. That is one step away from fabricating new false information which is what they - meaning some entity calling themselves MirandaPriestly and a sideshow named AmandaReconwith if they weren't the same person - were doing before they both ran into "confusion" and posted nonsense and disappeared in classic perp style.

What is the rush to embrace details about sims, whose portraits resemble as much reality as airplanes melting into buildings? Will you next follow in their footsteps SG, by creating fake "damaged licenses" and signatures that "should" belong to the sim, as if to build their completely Lego personality into something tangible and concrete?

I would like some explanation from those who are feeling "bullied" when they don't actually produce anything but Internet searches.

What is the significance of these searches through the webs turning up an address, when making millions imagine them as physically real from a single portrait or sometimes just an absurd sounding name was apparently so easy?

Haven't any of us been paying attention to the fact that an endless parade of Singhs, Chowdhurys and recycled sim names are being represented for compensation moneys, property contracts, etc. etc. and that the companies, churches and universities apparently initiated into this operation continue to produce lies at an incredible clip -- for cash?

I want some proofs and explanations to back up this apparent excitement that someone has found the "living location" of a simulation!

At least Simon produces some guesswork, even if it is sadly minute on this new branch of research, but to just post stuff and demand attention goes to it ... does not fulfill our request to produce cogent new research ... it is the equivalent of if I were to come on the board and just start posting endless Judy Wood pictures of the video game-rendered WTC towers and saying, "Look! Look! This clump of pixels is a victim burned by heat rays." It pulls people into fake details of a fake story that has so-far proven through-and-through Bull sh#t.

Don't accuse me of "bullying" when you present nothing and want us to lap it up. Explain it. And before hiding any potential pathetic explanation or useless speculation of a couple words within a long list of horse-chestnut vicsim data, as you resorted to, which is why I deleted the post, spend some time to write what you think is going on. Or just stop.

And definitely stop whining, either way. You are not a victim. You are just posting on a message board.
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