9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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Unread post by simonshack » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:09 pm

Well - I won't invite Sarah for a night out but...

Woohooo ! I've been refunded !


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Unread post by brianv » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:48 pm

Archives are owned by Inflection. http://inflection.com/

Archives only came on line in January of this year!

Inflection also own http://www.peoplesearchpro.com/ which could be quite interesting for a browse! But it's gonna be the same crap again, I suppose!

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:44 am

Alright everyone. Here you go.
SmokingGunII 4 Mar 29 2010, 08:05 AM wrote: Hoi - Thank you for your response - if I understood it I would reply.

Simon is right when he says we don't need in-fighting on here and I agree. For the life of me, I still don't see what caused you to delete my post when other shall we say, innaccurate posts are left on here indefinitely. If there was a flaw in my work, then please tell me what it was and why.

Anyway, upwards and onwards - I have more information on Nicholas Christian Brophy (for brianv) and his wife that I will leave to another day. In the meantime I will concentrate on the UK "victims", as I said I would previously - already some interesting stuff is emerging and I'm only concentrating on the bods that run S11UKFSG.

Let's keep this thread on track.

SG
What about my post don't you understand?

I implicated that what you had posted was a pile of fake information organized to support the existence of a sim, and it was at a time when sunshine and you were doing the same thing - flooding this topic with such information with no explanation or analysis. You merely connect the dots as if your "discovery" of sim info points to the existence of an individual.

This is the exact "research" method of a countless number of perps who are apparently trying to make it seem as if they did a better job of coordinating dissonant identity departments across the world than they actually did.

This is very simple to understand. Your post was a pure injection of worthlessness during a time that progress was otherwise being made. This is what was wrong. It is still wrong if you are going to continue to mourn your post and pretend that was not what you were doing and that you don't understand this.

Laughably, at the same time you pretend to not understand this, you try to slip in your point that "okay maybe my post was worthless but why do you leave in other worthless posts?"

You can't have it both ways. You act insulted, slyly accused me of "bullying" and you hope to gain sympathy by making points while disguising them. The time for in-fighting arrives when there is clear misunderstanding going on and it is deliberate. That is precisely what your miscommunication style is. Deliberate. I am not going to accept your lofty message about yourself and I am going to watch what you post now very carefully. I hope you do the same.

Anyway, let's keep this thread on track. Upwards and onwards.

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:01 am

This information is accurate and complete to the best of our knowledge. We strive to keep all records as up to date and complete as possible and use the most credible data sources available. Since many records come from sources such as those published by state and county governments, we can make no warranties that everything is completely up-to-date. You can read further about this disclaimer of warranties on the end user agreement posted on our website.

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Please let me know if I can provide any further assistance.

You could start by asking if, this being public information, you could get a list of the sources.

I suppose we'll bump into the same stuff we always do, but maybe they'll say something like "eSpeed Research Corp." or "Marsh USA archive holdings, inc." :rolleyes:

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Unread post by idschmyd » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:54 am

simonshack 4 Mar 29 2010, 11:09 PM wrote: Please let me know if I can provide any further assistance.

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Not sure Sar's has been any help.

We strive to keep all records as up to date and complete as possible

Not hard you don't.

How does Inflection get its data? Presumably it makes no effort to check the billions of bits dragged in from all those lists littered with, or formed entirely of, fabricated identities. Like the subprime mortgage idea, moody data copied and distributed through global archives will one day nullify all archives. The hoaxers will be unable to tell the false from the genuine, and will be hoist with their own petard.

Btw, I didn't mean you to pursue the young lady to satisfy your carnal desires, about which I've never inquired and would presume to know only in error, but from the little I know I'd reckon your chances wherever you go. ;)

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Unread post by ATTC » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:08 pm

This is an amazing thread. Rereading it for the first time. I'm on the third page kind of cool seeing how piece by piece you guys discover new things. Even get to see how you guys got the idea of meeting up in Rome. Pretty cool. Great article by the way on that ridiculous story of Maffeo, McCourt, etc.

And LOL at that Peg Carter person shilling as well . You gotta give her credit though she did have the proof by assertion going for her.

Although I will say we have to be careful saying that NO ONE perished just to be sensitive to those who may actually lost lives, but obviously within the context of this research, that's not as important. Im talking more from the standpoint of trying to introduce this to someone. Then again it's such a huge progression going from official story to Vicsims as opposed to classic LIHOP/MIHOP route.

But hey no need to be ashamed of the truth right?


You guys do an oustanding job and literally the handful of you exposed these media perps and the head of the snake and it's been a thrill to watch it all go down over the last 3-4 years. LOL at the media and all these new reports of OBL , or all these new hit pieces on 9/11 that they've made as recent as 2009.

And Im sure they've taken down a great deal of photos from that CNN memorial thanks to you all.

Surprised they haven't tried to stock pile the SSDI. Maybe as you state, there are beauracracy issues.


All in all outstanding job by all of you. Now back to reading this informative and entertaining thread for me!

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Unread post by IceDash » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:02 am

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /1483.html
Charles E. Sabin
Can someone please tell what wrong with his eyes? Serioulsy, is this the best photo they come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /3644.html
Why do I seen her before somewhere where simonshack explain...
Rena Sam-Dinnoo

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /2320.html
This page not available by a person name: Dennis O'Berg (it has a photo)

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /3082.html
This one tough, it hard to tell if this a photoshop but her name is: Marni Pont O'Doherty

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Unread post by IceDash » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:37 am

Image
Crossley Williams Jr.
come on, this look like fresh prince cartoon
Can anyone believe this garbage?

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Unread post by ATTC » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:34 pm

IceDash 4 Mar 31 2010, 01:37 AM wrote: Image
Crossley Williams Jr.
come on, this look like fresh prince cartoon
Can anyone believe this garbage?
LOL yeah that's one of the more sketchy ones I've ever seen.

Some of the photos like the one with the girl's head on the guy's shoulder looks authentic. I don't think we should assume that ALL of the victims are fake.

There is no need to make that extrapolation.

First of all, all it takes is one real person or a few really backstopped people to bring down that research.

Not to mention it's plausible that whatever object hit the Towers or caused it to blow up, did indeed leave some people stranded in those Towers. I mean we've seen the people waving outside the windows.

Not talking about people who they could easily edit in like Edna Cintron but the actual people waving from the buildings. Why are some people so diametrically opposed to the idea that there were a few hundreds or heck even a few dozen people who were stranded in those buildings?

When you say that MANY are fake, that makes it much tougher on the perps because they can't just look for one real person or just back stop a handful of people. Because that would not suffice because the word MANY or even MOST would imply not ALL.

Not to mention you don't want to lose/turn off people who may legitimately lost loved ones (or at least think they lost loved ones) in those attacks.


http://www.facebook.com/search/?ref=sea ... 2296750..1

Like this guy. Would they really go through all the trouble of posting 55+ pictures of a guy? We can get so caught up in the idea of no victims, that we start to rationalize to ourselves that real pictures are fake. It's really not necessary to bring down the media perps to establish that 100% of victims were fake. Only many or possibly most. The 100% angle is totally too limited in scope. prone for attack rather legitimate/unauthentic, and again totally unnecessary.

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Unread post by brianv » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:07 pm

Um, er, Oh look, posted yesterday...

http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/

http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/photoshop/

Any connection? :rolleyes:

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Unread post by ATTC » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:47 pm

brianv @ Mar 31 2010, 04:07 PM wrote: Um, er, Oh look, posted yesterday...

http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/

http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/photoshop/

Any connection? :rolleyes:
Well perhaps Luke is an example of a really backstopped guy. I mean 55+ photos on that facebook dedication site.

That's just a reason to not go with the 100% fake angle. I mean even if all 55 photos were fake, you really think you're going to convince Joe Public of that?

Again that 100% number is not necessary to establish criminality of the media perps or animation perps.

All it does is make the movement more prone to attack by authentic or seemingly authentic handful of individuals.

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Unread post by brianv » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:57 pm

So it's a coincidence that that article was posted yesterday and you posted the same alleged victim's name here today? 2776/1? (license)

'Scuse me! Movement? Which 'movement' would that be?

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Unread post by Heiwa » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:03 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/3 ... 19727.html

Donna Marsh O'Connor -- a Peaceful Tomorrows member lost her pregnant daughter when the Twin Towers collapsed

Anyone knows more about this pregnant daughter, Vanessa Lang Langer? Is there a widow father Lang or Langer, Donna’s son in law, around?

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Unread post by ATTC » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:01 pm

brianv 4 Mar 31 2010, 04:57 PM wrote: So it's a coincidence that that article was posted yesterday and you posted the same alleged victim's name here today? 2776/1? (license)

'Scuse me! Movement? Which 'movement' would that be?

I hope you're not accusing me of being a shill. You must not remember my posts from the old forum. I support you guys research.

First of all let me be straight forward with you, I got that victim name from the "Lets Roll Forum".

http://letsrollforums.com/cnn-memorial- ... 20623.html

I thought it was compelling so I decided to post it here. Maybe the lack of coincidence is on THERE part. And it is kind of suspicious how they keep censoring TV Fakery talk.

Yet they posted something like that.

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Unread post by simonshack » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:02 pm

Heiwa 4 Mar 31 2010, 04:03 PM wrote:
Anyone knows more about this pregnant daughter, Vanessa Lang Langer? Is there a widow father Lang or Langer, Donna’s son in law, around?
Heiwa,

Have you watched this - (my most recent video) ?

911ACTORS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

Donna Marsh O'Connor is an actress. So are - I believe - all the other alleged family members we know of. If it is not apparent that there is a pattern here I wish to be convinced of the contrary. Anyone is free to try demonstrating the existence of ONE, authentic family member.

And yes - I have tried to find a "Lang Langer" on several search engines. And no - I have not found any.



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To ATTC :

I agree with some of your thoughts, such as : All the memorial portraits do not have to be photoshop/doctored images. That is one aspect. Another aspect is how they created the fictitious victims. I agree there may have been different methods used there too; some completely made-up from scratch - and some 'lent' identities of real /"backstopped" persons or variations thereof.

Such a huge false-flag operation must have employed multifaceted strategies to make everything all the more complex to figure out. I hope we both agree on this too.

Where I do NOT agree with you is that we should 'adapt' our investigations to suit Joe Public's ability/propensity/disposition to understand and accept the research. We are not into marketing - or into selling a product. As much as you are concerned that the 'zero victims' contention may put off people, it has to be considered as a proposition on the merit of a logical line of reasoning. As I have written on other occasions (and to this day, no one has confronted me on this issue) the logic behind a "no victims" strategy makes, IMHO, perfect sense. What if 500 people really died in the towers? Would they not one day discover that 2500 families were nowhere to be found? How inanely silly would it be for the perps to let themselves be exposed to such a potential liability, ready to explode at any time, backed by 500 angry and motivated families and their lawyers? It simply makes no sense at all. I'll stop here, inviting you to reply to this specific aspect.
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