9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:36 pm

Is that a section of pants used to represent "her friend"?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby XQB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:51 am

simonshack wrote:Dear XQB,

Here's what I bumped into while casually surfing the "W" vicsims today ... (so thanks for the tip).

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Simon,

Hilarious pics! The sim/hugger obsession in these vicsim portraits never ceases to amaze me. The huggers actually make these sims look more fake than they actually are, since we're visually presented with 2 obvious Photoshops (vicsim + hugger) instead of just the vicsim. Either they're deliberately leaving us obvious clues, or the photo-perps weren't the sharpest tools in the shed!

I plan on browsing through some more random letters on Fetchet's site. I'm not sure if you saw this in the "W" section, but high profile vicsim Elizabeth Wainio does not have a single guestbook entry or family tribute on her page. No surprises there!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby XQB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:54 am

brianv wrote:
reel.deal wrote:http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/memorial_content.php?idbio=159&idcontent=957507167

Image :huh:

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I'd have never noticed the fingertips from the hug-me clone!


That hugger looks kinda creepy. Aside from the missing fingertips, it's almost like they threw in a random torso with no arms either!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby Anonymouse on Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:52 pm

...So I herd u liek magenta? :P

Seriously - there MUST be an easier way to conceal the insertion of mystery hugging arm than upping the brightness/contrast and throwing out the color balance. I...don't...even... :wacko:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:24 pm

...Coming up :

A statistical analysis of the faceless "We Will Never Forget" vicsims...

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:33 pm

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"THE FLAGGED 9/11 VICTIMS"

So I decided to take another look at the VOICES OF SEPTEMBER website (the official listing of 9/11 victims for the Ground Zero Museum & Memorial). The focus of this latest analysis of mine is on the alleged 9/11 victims listed there - WHICH ARE "DEPICTED" WITH THIS SAD AND IRONIC IMAGE - IN LIEU OF THEIR PORTRAITS :

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Now, I haven't bothered counting them all yet, but on the top of my head I'd say that - give or take - approximately 5% of the 9/11 victims have no portrait on the VOICES memorial - but are instead 'portrayed' with this sad "We-Will-Never-Forget" flag... Still, if you think about it, it is quite extraordinary that after almost 11 years, so many 9/11 victims' families have not bothered supplying a portrait of their loved one to the official Ground Zero Memorial. Anyways, my interest here was aroused as I started noticing a curious pattern, as I surfed the VOICES victim listings once again - paying special attention to these "flagged victims".

In fact, it would appear that the "flagged victims" appear in alphabetical clusters - as if they were the result of some malfunction/defect in the algorithm which was used to create the database of the "3000 9/11 victims". I hope everyone will sense the gist of my following observations - and appreciate the logical/and statistical elements I am expounding here. Please keep in mind that the common denominator here is: "FLAGGED 9/11 VICTIMS" (alleged casualties of 9/11 whose portraits are missing on the official VOICES MEMORIAL).

The first little "huh?" moment which started this analysis was at letter "E" - as I noticed these three (almost) sequential "flagged victims":

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Not much of a coincidence you might say, but I proceeded to check out if these "flagged victims" would perhaps appear in a similar sequential mode - across the VOICES memorial's alphabetical listing. The next cluster of "flagged victims" I found was this - at surname initial "G":

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I then found this remarkably sequential cluster of "flagged victims" under surname initial "L":

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At letter "L", I also found three "flagged victims" with the surname "LEE":

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I then proceeded to letter "O" - and found this sequence of "flagged victims":

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Next, this is what is to be found at surname initial "R":

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Here's what we have at surname initial "S":

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The Shea trio is also interesting...

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We then get this amazing sequence of "flagged victims" - still at letter "S":

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As I said - I hope the statistical improbability of all the above is evident to any sound thinker - and that a more plausible explanation is that the above-listed, faceless "flagged 9/11 victims" were more likely just 'glitches' in the process of their digital creation.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby Maat on Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:41 pm

Yeah, and maybe just too lazy to create any more digi-faces once they had a big enough batch. So add the repetitive "patriotic exhortation" to fill in the holes.

Which translates as:
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That's like the stupid big bold message on British cigarette packets shouting "smoking kills" etc. [just add an s to make it skills :P], assuming that's supposed to have some sort of psychological deterrent effect — which it doesn't, duh — except to wonder if that's what they want to subliminally implant as a belief to induce manifestation :ph34r:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby whatsgoingon on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:24 pm

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby Anonymouse on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:18 pm

whatsgoingon wrote:Joseph Patrick Shea
Patrick J. O'Shea

Well those names were created by the same person. These must be late adds to meet a quota the team leader wanted and they did not have enough time to get those images together for the flyers around town and the like.

Statistically we can compute the odds that these flagged individuals are next to one another.

Call it 0.05^n where n is the number of flagged in a row.

When n = 2, you are talking a 0.2 % chance or 2/1000. Possible for this to happen
When n = 3, you are at 0.01 % odds or 1/10,000. Pretty unlikely unless there is another correlation.
When n = 4, you are at 1 in 160,000. Not happening without another correlation.
When n = 5, you are at 1 in 3.2 million odds. Never gonna happen unless the thing was rigged more or less.

Another kind of statistical analysis would be to determine all the clusters of flagged phots. Count these streaks and tally them. How many are singleton, twins, triples, etc. The distribution if it is untainted should be exponential and hence a random distribution. If the distribution is something else, then it is fraud.


Oooh, statistics...it's been a while, so if I accidentally speak stats gibberish I hope you'll forgive me.

So, one possible cause of a correlation, assuming the list is untainted, could be shared surnames of family members whose remaining family was unable or not forthcoming with pictures. If you could prove this statistically significant "clumping" of flagged individuals occurs, even when you control for this, the results would be more solid....yeah?

Anyhow - as I said, it's been a while, so feel free to disregard if this isn't helpful. :)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby fbenario on Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:23 am

Anonymouse wrote:Anyhow - as I said, it's been a while, so feel free to disregard if this isn't helpful. :)

Hey! You've made you position clear on apologizing for posting possibly 'too-basic' material. No need to ever apologize again, it's gotten old.

By the way, so far I like reading your stuff. Keep it up!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby Anonymouse on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:31 am

fbenario wrote:
Anonymouse wrote:Anyhow - as I said, it's been a while, so feel free to disregard if this isn't helpful. :)

Hey! You've made you position clear on apologizing for posting possibly 'too-basic' material. No need to ever apologize again, it's gotten old.

By the way, so far I like reading your stuff. Keep it up!


Ahh, the apologizing is a bad habit of mine...I'd say "sorry", but the irony would be too much! :P


whatsgoingon wrote:Statistically we can compute the odds that these flagged individuals are next to one another.

Call it 0.05^n where n is the number of flagged in a row.

When n = 2, you are talking a 0.2 % chance or 2/1000. Possible for this to happen
When n = 3, you are at 0.01 % odds or 1/10,000. Pretty unlikely unless there is another correlation.
When n = 4, you are at 1 in 160,000. Not happening without another correlation.
When n = 5, you are at 1 in 3.2 million odds. Never gonna happen unless the thing was rigged more or less


Okay, so I have my old stats texts out and I'm trying to figure out the method you've used to calculate these probabilities. I'm not doubting you...just wanting to make sure I'm on the same page, and that I fully understand how you arrived at those numbers (rather than take it on faith, ya know?). So if you can break it down for me that would be kickass.


whatsgoingon wrote:Anyway these methods are used all the time to examine fraud by accountants. I already ran a trailing digit analysis of the last digit of the ages of all the vicsims from 9/11. They must have used a random number generator. In fact, I know they did because there are no biases in that distribution at all.


Oh wow...NO bias? That would appear to defy common sense! Also, I'm having trouble finding info on trailing digit analysis - I mean I can take a guess at what it's doing, but if you have further info that'd be awesome.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

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