Igor Zukelman (vicsim) family's accident

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Igor Zukelman (vicsim) family's accident

Unread postby nonhocapito on Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:08 am

I was discussing the vicsims on another thread, and the peculiar "die-in-a-lie" character. (here: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... wtopic=255)

For curiosity I looked at the LAST name on the "wall off americans" too, that of one Igor Zukelman, who is present on other memorials as well.

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Igor Zukelman

So I find out there's an article about him in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/natio ... ELMAN.html
and this article gives a detail: Zukelman's brother in law had lost his wife AND children in April 2001, in a car accident.

Well, there you go. This is an easy to verify detail.

A driver who, in April 2001, "jumped a curb on Ocean Boulevard, killing Mr. Shetman's wife and two daughters" (I believe that's in Queens?)
Such a horrendous accident does not go unnoticed on local newspapers. So this news item MUST be reported somewhere.

It is not present in the NYT archives, for starters:

http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?f ... year2=2001

Nor is returned by this google search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... april+2001

But maybe some kind soul from NYC could go to the local library and see if this deadly accident ever happened?
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Unread postby nonhocapito on Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:01 pm

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Very *very* asymmetric eyes here. Aside of that, identical expression, as so often, and ridiculously LOW quality, considered that most of these shot are supposedly scans from analog pictures. Scans usually generate pretty damn big digital pictures.

Maybe for when the 9/11 museum will be ready, they will have generated thousands more pictures, higher quality, and more credible. And this will surprise people even more.
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Unread postby obrien on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:36 am

i was able to find an article about the car accident but it opens a whole other can of beans-

http://cjarchives.jrn.columbia.edu/rw1_ ... man&id=789

"Critics Question Contributions to Brooklyn DA’s Campaign Fund"
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Unread postby obrien on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:42 am

i found it on the 1st page of results for alexander "shetman" -

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=al ... =&gs_rfai=

on this site of all places -

http://exposemolesters.blogspot.com/200 ... yness.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

they linked to the article i posted.
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Unread postby idschmyd on Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:35 am

Article 2006 about event 2001. “Critics Question Contributions to Brooklyn DA’s Campaign Fund”.

Isaac Chehebar meets Abraham Felman who is driving his dad’s Porsche. Chehebar, 20, takes the wheel. Rima and Aleksandra Shetman are with kids waiting to cross the road. Chechebar runs down the wife and kids killing the two sisters and perhaps the mother, too, depending what you read:

The force of the impact killed Inna Shetman instantly; her sister Svetlana died hours later at Coney Island Hospital. Their mother, Rima Shetman, sustained major trauma [and] would survive only after several tenuous months at Lutheran Medical Center.

Or the NYT Obit 2001: ...killing Mr. Shetman's wife and two daughters.

Title: There’s no mention of 9/11 or Igor Zukelman, but the first half tells the story of the accident, and the article returns to it as a focus. Despite the title no person or group is cited as a critic of anything, and the article is a disjointed photofit of themes.

This NYT article from 2001 also details the Cheheber crash and laments the tragedy of the “Shatman” family?

“?killing two sisters and critically injuring their mother, the police said.”

The accident is alleged also in an article from 2007 in the NY Observer’s real estate section.

“Most Manhattan apartments sell bizarrely,” it opens, going on to say that “[r]arely do haute shoe designers buy Fifth Avenue spreads from real estate investors who have served time for accidentally killing two young sisters with a friend’s sports car.” I guess? It's an especially clunky photofit story.

We know the NYT is an outright liar and 9/11 hoaxer, but what of the NYO? “Published every Wednesday, the newspaper's editorial team is led by veteran reporter and former editor of? The Wall Street Journal, Kyle Pope.”

!!!!MURDOCH WARNING!!!

The NYO is owned by Jared Kushner, son of Charles. According to Wiksta, Charlie is a big Democrat and occasional Republican donor, depending on expedience, who was busted for ‘witness tampering, tax evasion and making illegal campaign contributions and was sentenced to two years in prison.’ Of Jared’s ownership of the dubiously named Observer, Wiks says “In July 2006, at age 25, Kushner paid 10 million to purchase The New York Observer, a weekly newspaper popular with New York's well-educated elite. Since purchasing the Observer, Kushner has pushed for changes that increased sales and created a new focus for the paper, moving towards a tabloid direction.”

Columbia Uni Journal? Nicholas Lemann is dean of Columbia Uni school of Journalism and also boasts close ties to these providers of a ‘social cohesiveness’ service:

? Managing editor of the Washington Monthly
? associate editor and executive editor of the Texas Monthly
? a national staff reporter for The Washington Post
? a national correspondent for The Atlantic Monthly
? a staff writer for The New Yorker

Chehebar looks genuine. His papa, Abe, seems to be a pal of Rudi the Fish. This reporting a ’93 campaign for something or other, hosted by Abe. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-14427917.html

Maybe there was a crash. But without a more trustworthy source of info than these marketeers and cohesiveness providers, and in the context that Zukelhm exists and what we know so far about 9/11, I think we have to assume the deranged images are not photographs of any person living or dead, and that all stories and mentions of the portrayed character (made not least by wealthy criminal families and 9/11 hoaxers) are merely to establish his fictional existence.

There’s no Shat or Shetman in the SSDI.
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