Managing the vicsim scam

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Managing the vicsim scam

Postby fred on September 9th, 2010, 6:11 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 ... mourn.html

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No room for public to mourn at Zuccotti Park for 9/11 honor ceremony

BY Adam Lisberg
DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF

Thursday, September 10th 2009, 10:16 PM
Mayor Bloomberg speaks during the seventh annual 9/11 commemoration ceremony at Zuccotti Park.

Two people hug as victims names are read during the 7th annual 9/11 commemoration ceremony.
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* Photo
* Daily News 9/11 Front Pages
* Articles
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* Obama: Every year on this day, we are all New Yorkers
* Voice memories part of 9/11 Museum
* KIDS WHEN IT HAPPENED Barely remember, but it's the reason they're over there
* Solemn tribute to Bronx 9/11 victims
* From the archives: New York's mood after 9/11
* Hundreds of protesters say 'NO' to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 9/11 terror trial in New York City
* Voice of the People for Feb. 3, 2010
* 1,000 protest planned Islamic center near Ground Zero
* Mosque gets all the press, but area near Ground Zero full of bars, porn, liquor stores, salons
*

On the eighth anniversary of 9/11, average New Yorkers who want to attend the emotional commemoration and hear the names of the victims are out of luck.

The only space where people without special credentials can get close to the ceremony is a city block away, in a crowded plaza on the other side of a busy street.

"The ceremony space is reserved for the survivors and family members of those who died," said City Hall spokeswoman Evelyn Erskine.

"We aim to make the ceremony special and meaningful for those directly impacted by the World Trade Center attacks given the limited space available near Ground Zero," she said.

The televised ceremony for relatives and survivors features the names of all 2,752 attack victims being read in Zuccotti Park, cater-corner from the edge of Ground Zero.

The general public is relegated to the other side of Broadway, where buses and trucks roll past during the ceremony - blocking any view and often drowning out the amplified names of the dead.

"You can't see anything. You can't hear anything. It's all muffled. There's buses going by in front of you," a frustrated John Michelotti of Greenwich, Conn., said there during last year's event.

"Every year there's a ceremony for the families. But 10 million other New Yorkers went through this, too, and there's nothing for them," he said. "The people of New York and the people of the world want to participate, and we can't."

In the first years after 9/11, New Yorkers flocked to West Street and other closed blocks around the site during the ceremony.

But the city reopened them to traffic in recent years, while construction at the site has blocked access to parts of Church St. and the PATH station that once provided an impromptu memorial area.

"I can hear but can't see," Glenda Carroll of the Bronx said in the cramped plaza last year. "It's a little confusing, too. It's not cohesive. You have to keep moving. You can't see anything."

City officials said the annual commemoration tries to balance family members' needs with the desire to keep lower Manhattan open - while also not providing a platform for the growing number of 9/11 conspiracy theorists to protest.

alisberg@nydailynews.com
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Postby simonshack on September 9th, 2010, 7:49 pm

Well Fred - what does that tell us?...

(sorry, I allowed myself to add that picture in your post and highlight in red the "conspiracy theorists" quote)

What does that tell me? Unfortunately, I don't live in NY and can't afford to travel there to check out how those anniversaries play out. But is there really NO ONE among us (those aware of the vicsims) willing and able to document what goes on in Manhattan, with a video crew and making impromptu interviews of New Yorkers?

Yes, this is an appeal for a little street action - addressed to those who can be in New York on Saturday.
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Postby hoi.polloi on September 9th, 2010, 11:07 pm

Sounds like the neo-Pentagon radicalized homegrown terrorists in charge of the nationless, backstabbing military that calls itself an 'American' force of law are interested in groundskeeping 'Ground Zero' as their impromptu DMZ safety ring against ... average Americans!

We need some good luck reviving democracy. This is a rough patch where mysterious forces have claimed our government ...
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Postby Brutal Metal on September 10th, 2010, 4:57 am

Looks like the vicsims family members had other gigs to go to and missed the memorial?? maybe there was a soap opera casting or something... :D
It's gonna look like that this year too.. Maybe Alex Jones will be there with his trademark foghorn spewing bullshit..
You have to admit that picture is pretty funny almost 3000 supposed victims and let's give a low estimate of 20 friends,family,relatives etc.. for each so that's
60,000, where are they? And throw in all the damm Twin Tower Co-workers that didn't perish, what's that another 50K?
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Postby Postal44 on September 10th, 2010, 5:30 am

You'd think they'd want all those people to be able to be in the area to hide the fact that nobody will be showing up since nobody died. Now they have to hire even more actors to fill all the roles. Maybe they'll use the money from the fund since nobody is claiming it.
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Postby SmokingGunII on September 10th, 2010, 12:26 pm

Guys - slightly off topic, but the guy hugging couldn't be our "construction worker" that drives a pick up track wearing a hard hat, could it?
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Postby repentantandy on September 10th, 2010, 11:14 pm

"The 9/11 Scam," like other large-scale frauds which came before it, is upon closer inspection something of a mosaic made up of quite a variety of smaller-scale scams.

Consider:

1. Cantor Fitzgerald's impossible claim of having lost hundreds of employees (but still zooming back to mega-business with high-speed/derivatives trading just a couple of days later). Weren't CF's owners eventually compensated with taxpayer/insurance-company money for CF's "tragic losses"?

2. The many other companies allegedly also doing (ghost) business in the (hollow) towers who also claimed to have lost scores of (phantom) staffers. Weren't these firms also eventually given congressionally mandated/insurance contract-required handouts?

3. The closed-mouthed airlines, who supposedly lost both both expensive gear and top-value employees, followed by a drastic dip in ticket sales that took years to rebound from. Weren't American and United eventually bailed out too?

4. And all those vicsim "families" (absolutely none of whom were waiting at California airports in hopes their loved ones had caught earlier or later flights). Into WHOSE bank accounts were the generous shares of compensation moola actually deposited?

Apart from the Neocon/Zionist/Military-Industrial-Complex rush to orgies of carnage and profiteering... we're also lookin' at many, many cases of indictable/prosecutable FINANCIAL FRAUD here!!! And on a grand scale!!!

Ah yes, but the statutes of limitation, in many, if not all, of the appropriate jurisdictions where the frauds took place, have either run out or are about to. And the only significant 9/11 criminal indictments that ever happened were targeted at a tiny handful of MKUltra-zombified Muslim patsies (also dressed in electrified stun-vests to doubly assure their "sticking to the script" whenever their "live" presence was actually needed for a courtroom appearance).

(IMHO the "leaked" torture memos and photos were merely a COVER for far more sophisticated mind-games of the Louis Jolyon West variety.)

Nevertheless, various latter-day financial transactions, as what remains of the unspent 9/11 handout-loot might still, from time to time, be shifted between accounts that bear "vicsim" false identities, could still provide grounds for real investigations and indictments today -- IF THERE ARE ANY TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY JIM GARRISONS out there in the hinterlands of Amerikka.

If you know of any (honest prosecutors, that is)... forward them this tip.

And then of course, don't hold your breath. :(
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Postby ozzybinoswald on September 10th, 2010, 11:44 pm

repentantandy 4 Sep 10 2010, 11:14 PM wrote: ... we're also lookin' at many, many cases of indictable/prosecutable FINANCIAL FRAUD here!!! And on a grand scale!!!

Ah yes, but the statutes of limitation, in many, if not all, of the appropriate jurisdictions where the frauds took place, have either run out or are about to.


It's not merely business fraud, it's ill gain from a treasonous conspiracy. It's piracy and atrocity.

Sometimes there are no existing laws or avenues of redress appropriate to the situation and sometimes crowds of people hang judges in the park so that future history books may boast.
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Postby brianv on September 11th, 2010, 12:02 am

There's no statute of limitations on the USA being a laughing stock and possibly a pariah once the nut is finally cracked. Of course they will still have their sycophant pals in the UK and elsewhere who have pulled similar stunts in their own sordid histories. Hopefully people will be more aware in future thanks to the selfless un-tiring work of Simon and others!

Oh dear, I just realised the date changed while writing this post!
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Postby simonshack on September 11th, 2010, 12:12 am

brianv 4 Sep 10 2010, 11:02 PM wrote:
Oh dear, I just realised the date changed while writing this post!



Oh...is it...Happy birthday Brian (?) :lol:
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Postby brianv on September 11th, 2010, 12:17 am

simonshack 4 Sep 11 2010, 12:12 AM wrote:
brianv 4 Sep 10 2010, 11:02 PM wrote:
Oh dear, I just realised the date changed while writing this post!



Oh...is it...Happy birthday Brian (?) :lol:


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Postby ozzybinoswald on September 11th, 2010, 12:27 am

We're having some fun now.

On this fateful day. Day of destiny.
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Postby fbenario on September 11th, 2010, 2:20 am

brianv 4 Sep 10 2010, 07:02 PM wrote:There's no statute of limitations on the USA being a laughing stock and possibly a pariah once the nut is finally cracked.


And while there are statutes of limitations on financial crimes, there is no statute of limitations on murder, which means it theoretically can be prosecuted forever.

Oh, that's right - no one died on 9/11 in the US, so there wasn't any murder, was there? How elegant of the perps, wouldn't you say, to set it up so that they can't be hauled into court once a certain date passes?

Except they forgot one VERY important detail that will hang them if justice ever occurs. Since a war justified by lies known at the time to be lies is a crime, all of the civilian victims of the Iraq/Afghan wars are criminal murder victims that can be traced back to 9/11 - and I don't believe there are any statutes of limitations on war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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Postby groovygoolie on September 11th, 2010, 3:11 am

When asked by a reporter George W Bush, What does Iraq have to do with 9-11, and he replied NOTHING, so the case for a war being started in also questionable at best.
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Postby mnew9 on September 11th, 2010, 7:22 am

On the anniversary of 9/11 I see that the media are still stoking the 'terrorist attack' fire.

Earlier today I watched Sean Hannity on the Fox channel state that he had lost friends (plural) whom he had gone to school with, in the 'attack' on 9/11.

I wonder who is writing his scripts?
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