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How the controlled opposition was designed to be part of the 9/11 hoax

Postby hoi.polloi on September 13th, 2010, 7:57 am

Who are you to say she didn't exist???



Human beings. With thinking capacity to judge and determine. Free souls. Free minds. Thinking persons. Curious persons. Iconoclasts. Hippies. Republicans. Democrats. Anyone. Everyone.

Who is "justsayin" and why are they determined to build up - careful detail by careful detail - like pulling teeth - a back story for a picture that fits in to the vicsim morphed face pieces theory? A backstory beyond the evidence that a person may not have existed?

Are we all to just overlook the curious nature of the picture?

Who might be interested in having us believe the bizarre circumstances and qualities of the picture are dismissable elements artificially attached to a "real person" who "tragically died" in a "terrorist attack" on America?

Let us ponder the many possibilities given that we acknowledge how far the perps have plummeted in their plan to convince everyone that 9/11 happened just the way Alex Jones, Fox News, Michael Moore, BBC and CNN say it happened.

Just what is going on here when we invite such users to interact with us? To whom are we giving a platform? Is "justsayin" the public ... or are they privately purchased like all the other so-called amateurs?

What perp would admit they are a perp?

"justsayin" acts like he/she/it does not "believe" anyone has the right to doubt he/she/it. In an era of fully funded partisan media stations like Fox bile and Comedy Central half-news which mutually endorse completely fabricated bogus news stories, the attitude that one must be believed is now both as obsolete and disgusting as it was originally idiotic.

Who is one to act as if - after all the years of research into television and media fakery technology - that doubting one personally takes some kind of special effort? Who can believe the proven frauds are real behind the fraud? Why believe it?

We give voice to the numerous ridiculous possibilities of who could be behind such a voice because people must understand the extent to which doubt can be applied.

Shouldn't every one believe they have the right to doubt what is told to them? Who can believe - in our age of Internet anonymity - that the average person has no right to doubt a completely unsubstantiated, disembodied text?

How easy is it for someone to invent detailed, novelistic qualities for an invented world? Google 'Fan Fiction' and you will quickly gather the extent to which people do so without prompt. Guess how many would love to get a paycheck for the very same activity ...
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Postby simonshack on September 13th, 2010, 3:38 pm

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"TRAJEDY"

I have a little obsession called 'spelling'.
As I constantly strive to improve my English spelling (this complex idiom not being my mother tongue) I always keep an eye open for spelling bloopers. I've noticed throughout the years some common misspellings people do - such as "anomoly" or "definately". Now, I don't know about you, but I have never encountered in all these years anyone spelling "tragedy" with "j"...

In fact, the first time I ever witnessed a "trajedy" was yesterday, on this very thread:

"justsayin" wrote:


I realize that their are people out there who are sick enough to try and capitalize on a trajedy.

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... &p=2197877





The second time I witnessed a "trajedy" was this morning when reading Webfairy's comment under this re-upload of SYNCHED OUT:

"Webfairy" wrote:


yes these are real images of Manhattan, which is a real place which suffered a real trajedy. different stations having different delay don't mean fake. different color balance on different stations don't mean fake. (...)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uGxK-OPPrw




Just saying.... ;)
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Postby brianv on September 13th, 2010, 4:10 pm

I spotted that too and wondered where I had seen it before!!
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 4:17 pm

simonshack @ Sep 13 2010, 03:38 PM wrote:
The second time I witnessed a "trajedy" was this morning when reading Webfairy's comment under this re-upload of SYNCHED OUT:

"Webfairy" wrote:


yes these are real images of Manhattan, which is a real place which suffered a real trajedy. different stations having different delay don't mean fake. different color balance on different stations don't mean fake. (...)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uGxK-OPPrw




Just saying.... ;)


Good catch!

There's only so much enemy action you can tolerate from your "friend" before you conclude that your "friend" is an enemy agent.

Perhaps whatever they've got playing the role of Rosalee Grable these days needs some time off?

I reckon by September 11, 2011 there won't be any public role for the 9-11 actors and actresses anyway.
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Postby Nosmo King on September 13th, 2010, 4:22 pm

[The second time I witnessed a "trajedy" was this morning when reading Webfairy's comment under this re-upload of SYNCHED OUT:

"Webfairy" wrote:
QUOTE

yes these are real images of Manhattan, which is a real place which suffered a real trajedy. different stations having different delay don't mean fake. different color balance on different stations don't mean fake. (...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uGxK-OPPrw



Just saying....




"Fairy" well spotted Simon...!
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 4:39 pm

Does anyone have the video clip from NBC showing the widow of Allen the Fireman at Ground Zero? It was aired a few days before September 11, 2010.

Sayin', weren't you on NBC TV the other night as a widow of Allen the fireman? Where did the talent go?
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Postby brucethejam on September 13th, 2010, 4:55 pm

Did anyone watch the cnn livefeed from the pentagon, they left the camera running with sound! There was definitely actors there,400 a day too. They seem to think that they will be by themselves next year! Also heard someone say 'right the cameras have stopped rolling, so why are we still here' and someone else say that they were gonna turn black next time!
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Postby simonshack on September 13th, 2010, 5:00 pm

fred 4 Sep 13 2010, 03:39 PM wrote: Sayin', weren't you on NBC TV the other night as a widow of Allen the fireman? Where did the talent go?


Alllen the firefighter? :P

Richard L? Or Richard D ? Did he still have a barcode on his cheek to tell the two products apart at the cash counter?

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Or perhaps it was Richard L. Allen-the-black?
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 5:05 pm

simonshack 4 Sep 13 2010, 05:00 PM wrote:
fred 4 Sep 13 2010, 03:39 PM wrote: Sayin', weren't you on NBC TV the other night as a widow of Allen the fireman? Where did the talent go?


Alllen the firefighter? :P

Richard L? Or Richard D ? Did he still have a barcode on his cheek to tell his two identities apart?

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I don't have a copy of the segment, but I believe it was the hatted and bar-coded Richard D. As I remember it, the skit had the "widow", a big red fire truck in the background, and a giant photo of Richard D Allen in a gaudy wooden frame mounted on the side of the fire engine. There was some kind of sign saying "304 Firefighters"[343?] above the photo, and the impression I had was that 304 was meant to be the number of dead firefighters.

I could be completely wrong, but I believe the widow would look familiar to us (just sayin'.)

Alas the remote was in the hands of someone who only wanted to watch the weather and had no interest in another 9/11 memorial story so I missed the end of the segment. [One of these days I should probably buy my own TV.]

The execution of the lines was a little bit sloppy. Something like "I will always remember my husband, uh... [what was his name] Allen."
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Postby simonshack on September 13th, 2010, 5:23 pm

fred @ Sep 13 2010, 04:05 PM wrote: [One of these days I should probably buy my own TV.]




Aughh OMG - noooo! Fred, we still need your brain in working order!
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 5:49 pm

In trying to find the clip I ran across another Firefighter Allen with a laughably ridiculous NYT Obituary.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/memor ... d018.shtml

street sign http://www.flickr.com/photos/badwsky/46 ... /lightbox/


http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/10/natio ... ALLEN.html


Eric Allen: All the Right Things
Published: March 10, 2002

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Here are some ways that a short man got by:

Firefighter Eric Allen was diligent, determined and headstrong. He was so tough, so capable, that it would never occur to people to look down on him, a 5-foot-5 tower of gym-rat power.

He knew how to size up potential trouble quickly and dodge it adroitly. Once, while driving cross-country with his buddy Joe Ruggiero, the two walked into a bar on the Texas-Oklahoma border and, in the blinding daylight, saw half a dozen oversized cowboys playing dominoes.

"Drinks for everyone on us!" Firefighter Allen shouted, buying a barful of friends.


The short guy cast a long shadow: Firefighter Allen, 44, was a ubiquitous, modest Mr. Fixit for friends and the elderly in his neighborhood, Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.

His motto was "Do the right thing," which for him meant taking extra courses to be eligible for the hazardous rescue duties of Squad 18 in Manhattan.

He was a sweetie with a crust, a shy man who loved acting.

As he drove on jaunts to the country with his wife, Angelica (whom he nicknamed Schnauzer) and their 3-year-old, Kathleen (whom he nicknamed Mouse) he would make up songs about how much he loved them, yelping happily.

[obviously the obit writer got confused between the fireman, the wife, and the dog.]



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http://www.chasingpixels.com/portfolio/fdny/index.htm


Image Firefighter Eric Allen, 41

more info soon
Eric is survived by his wife Kiki and daughter Kathleen (3).

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So far we have three names for the wife: Angelica, Shnauzer, Kiki.

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http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/fe ... ndex2.html

The visits don't get any easier. Larry Virgilio, 38 years old, is in Woodside; Cohen and company will finish the night in Bay Ridge, paying their respects to Eric Allen, 41. Atnine o'clock, as the funeral home is getting ready to close, the room is still full, the honor guard still in place, when Allen's wife, Kiki, and their 2 1/2-year-old daughter, Kathleen, kneel at the dark cherry wood coffin to say good-bye.

"Time to go," Kiki says. "Not yet! Not yet! Not yet!" Kathleen says, bouncing up and down, excited to beup so late, blissfully unaware of why all these people have gathered.
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Postby brianv on September 13th, 2010, 6:24 pm

"with his buddy Joe Ruggiero"

"In 2001, he worked for Telergy, a telecom company in lower Manhattan. The attacks of September 11th caused Telergy to close its doors. It was after September 11th that Joseph decided to run for Town Supervisor. "

http://joeruggiero.org/about.htm

Not Really but we like to invoke 9/11 at every opportunity.

"Unsuccessful in its efforts the company collapsed in August 2001 under a mountain of debt. The officers and directors resigned and were replaced by a crisis manager.

Telergy filed for bankruptcy-liquidation in December 2001, listing 558 million of liabilities. One bank consortium had loaned the company 330 million. Unsecured creditors were owed 172 million. "

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... n17181989/

Anyhoo..

"In 2005 Supervisor Ruggiero married Stephanie Bosco who he first met when Stephanie was a student at Vassar College in Poughkeepsie."

http://joeruggiero.org/about.htm

I think you know where to find these next two names without much prompting from me!

Susan A. Ruggiero
Richard Edward Bosco
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 7:08 pm

brianv 4 Sep 13 2010, 06:24 PM wrote:
I think you know where to find these next two names without much prompting from me!

Susan A. Ruggiero
Richard Edward Bosco


Don't tell me something bad happened to good old Susie Ruggiero and Richard Bosco. Please tell me they're OK.



I didn't know either of you but I miss your infectious smiles when you would yelp happily. I'm pretty sure my aunt's stepson's niece's next-door cousin was engaged to both of you on and that you were scheduled to be married and were flying from the Pentagon to San Francisco to celebrate the births of your identical twin daughters, aged 9 and 11. No? I will love and cherish the time we spent walking past each other in the hallways and the infectious fresh bagels you left by the copier with your smile that could always make the copier laugh. You always seemed so real to me and I will always remember you forever, as will the hundreds and hundreds of people who knew you from your fraternity, kung fu class, the art studio, rugby, your volunteer work at the mental institution, and the beers we all had after yoga class that time. Please know that I am smiling down on you from heaven and that your little son wishes you were here with me.
--Fred, Distant Cousin, Co-worker, and imaginary friend




[yes, I just made that tribute up but the ones below are actually on the memorials.]

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Oh no! It looks like he didn't make it.

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http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /3310.html

[Look how real he looks! If he were fake he would look perfect!]

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"To my cousin, My tears have still not stopped flowing. I can't bear the loss of you. People die all the time, and will say "my cousin died in an accident" or "my cousin died of cancer'" etc. But I have to say my cousin died at the hands of terrorists. I can't handle that. The day at the Armory filling out your missing person's form and hanging the posters hasn't left my memory. The wishing, hoping and praying we'd find you haunts me. The recovery of your body was a Godsend to the family but has ripped apart our hearts. Rich -- I truly miss you and feel for your children. They are so little and will never be able to understand what a great and wonderful person their dad was. I know that I and the remaining 12 cousins will share all the pictures, videos and stories. You may be gone, but you will never be forgotten, for you are always in my thoughts."
Sue Bove, cousin



"I love you and I miss you, my big brother."
Kelly, sister

"Richard was a wonderful person. There was not one person I know of that would not agree with me. He is definitely coming out in his children, Richie Jr. and Abigail. He did not have a mean bone in his body. I miss him terribly, but I know he is watching over us all. He is making me a better person every day. I see parts of him coming out in all of us at different times. People say he is in a better place, but I find that hard to believe. He should be here with us, his wife (my sister) and his children; we all need him."
Tara Rovner, sister-in-law


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http://www.nytimes.com/library/national ... bosco.html

RICHARD E. BOSCO Sweet Dream of a Husband

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Here was Richard E. Bosco's typical morning: He would wake about 6:30 and hop in the shower. He would be joined by Abby, his 2-year-old daughter, who had recently decided that showering with dad was a fun way to start her day. After shower time, she would stand on a stool beside him as he lathered up. With her toy razor blade, they shaved side by side, chatting away.

Mr. Bosco taught his son, Richie, 3 1/2, how to tackle. Then he brought him inside for a glass of strawberry milk.

Mr. Bosco grew up in Suffern, N.Y., where he met his wife, Traci. They started dating when she was 17. "He just seemed genuine, like I could trust him right away," she recalled. "I just felt comfortable." They married in 1995, and Mrs. Bosco describes him as a sweet, sweet dream of a husband: he lavished her with attention and compliments. He did not wait to be asked to do the dishes, take out the garbage or throw in a load of laundry. "We never fought," she said. "It was total teamwork."

Mr. Bosco, 34, did not work at the World Trade Center. A financial specialist for Citibank, he was trying to cultivate new clients. On Sept. 11 his first appointment of the day was at Cantor Fitzgerald.

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I guess the little kids are really into the toy razor blades these days. He sure seems genuine. I trust him. I feel comfortable. Don't you? Anyone want to learn to tackle and get a glass of strawberry milk?

So where are Sue Bove and the 12 remaining cousins who will share the pictures and videos? Did they have any that don't look like they were copied on a thermal fax machine from 1967 at ultra-low resolution that they could have put up on the archives and memorials?
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Postby hoi.polloi on September 13th, 2010, 7:10 pm

Keep all your vicsims more related to one another than to "real" people (i.e.; drop the need for more actors and bit parts). That seems to have been the plan!
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Postby fred on September 13th, 2010, 7:41 pm

http://www.geneseo.edu/~encompass/ENCMA ... rants.html

Summer 2005

CAMPUS NOTES

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Geneseo Alumni Honor Richard Bosco, Fellow Alumnus Killed on Sept. 11

In honor of SUNY Geneseo alumnus Richard Bosco, who was killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City on Sept. 11, 2001, several Geneseo alumni and close friends of Bosco’s held a memorial golf tournament that raised more than 10,000 to support a student scholarship in the College’s Jones School of Business.

The first annual Richard Bosco Memorial Golf Tournament was held on May 21 at the Livingston County (N.Y.) Country Club in Geneseo. Traci Bosco, Rich’s widow, his two children Richie Jr. and Abbey, his two brothers and his sister, his brother-in-law and his parents all traveled to Geneseo to participate in the event.

A 1989 graduate of SUNY Geneseo, Bosco was an economics major while at college. According to friends and family, he looked forward to building a successful career in finance. His life and career were cut short while making a sales call at Cantor Fitzgerald on behalf of his employer, Citibank.

“The scholarship will be awarded annually to a SUNY Geneseo student enrolled in the College’s School of Business who reflects the leadership qualities and potential for success that Rich exemplified,” said Matthew Hurlbutt of Rochester, a Geneseo alumnus who was a friend of Bosco’s.

For more information about the scholarship and about Richard Bosco, see http://foundation.geneseo.edu/Bosco/bos ... rship.html

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Be on the lookout for:

Matt Hurlbutt
, Managing Director, Business Development

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Matt Hurlbutt serves as Managing Director, Business Development at Greater Rochester Enterprise with responsibility for attracting new business to Rochester. Matt works directly with corporate executives and national site selectors as they consider locations for investment and job creation. In addition, Matt collaborates with local partners to leverage the region's assets in order to support innovation and economic growth.

Prior to joining GRE in 2008, Matt served as Managing Director of Finger Lakes Wired. Finger Lakes Wired, with RochesterWorks, Inc. as the lead agency, was awarded 15 million through the US Department of Labor's WIRED Initiative in 2006. The partnership represented 21 organizations in the nine county region dedicated to transforming the regional economy.

Matt also served as Executive Director of RochesterWorks, Inc. from 2000 to 2008, where he guided the creation of the non-profit corporation and the workforce development system from concept to implementation, designing its products and services.

In 2001, Matt was named to the "40 under 40" list by the Rochester Business Journal. He is also a member of Pi Alpha Alpha, the National Honor Society of Public Affairs and Administration. He holds a Master of Public Administration degree from State University of New York College at Brockport and a Bachelor of Arts degree in Political Science, State University of New York College at Geneseo.

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Oddly enough, the link to the Bosco foundation is broken.

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Here are some more fake friends and relatives:


http://arboretum.geneseo.edu/911/

Senior Class 2002 Memorial honoring the Geneseo alumni who lost their lives.
September 11, 2001.

On September 11, 2001 the college lost

Yan Zhu Cindy Guan '99
Dennis O'Berg '95
Richard Bosco '89
James Kelly '83.

To commemorate their passing the Senior Class of 2002 and the Roemer Arboretum have joined together to create this memorial. The four large stones represent each of the alums named above. The bench, between the stones, faces toward the western sky and the Genesee Valley. It is a quiet spot that, with the strength of stone, will endure.

Notice the patent leather shoes and goofy hand-sign on "Husband of Cindy Guan Edwin Yuen '99"



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Another spook or military guy playing the role of Dennis O'Berg, father of Dennis O'Berg

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Greg Gian, Friend of Vicsim James Kelly, Reads from his Script

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