September Clues research banned by Youtube & Vimeo

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:21 pm

***Stop Press***

Simon's latest Video "Synched Out" Removed from YT !!!

"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XHv0PAdeUs

Unread post by **simonshack** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:51 pm

****

Wow! Why? Why did Youtube ban my SYNCHED OUT video twice - and immediately after I tried to upload it the first time on Sept10, 2010 - and then a second time, on Sept 11, 2010? The sitar music was all recorded in my own studio, and was performed by my friend Luca (who has studied sitar in India) - so this can't be a case of music copyright infringement. Nor can it be a case of video copyright infringement - since the 9/11 TV imagery is of public domain (and has been re-published by COUNTLESS private Youtube channels). This is a most absurd and unjustified Youtube censorship - if there ever was one.

SYNCHED OUT - banned by Youtube... twice !!

Here's the best available version of SYNCHED OUT - which I had to upload on blip.tv (after Youtube's double-ban) :
http://blip.tv/september-clues/synched-out-new-4130148
( update - July 2014: MY ENTIRE BLIP TV CHANNEL HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED - NO REASON GIVEN !!!)

Here is a version kindly re-uploaded by Youtube user Cantankerous Buddha:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqU8_-rqsg

Here are the 2 ABSURD motivations given by Youtube for banning SYNCHED OUT:

1: (Rejected: terms of use violation)*******************************2: (Rejected: content inappropriate)

So why - pray tell - did Yotube ban/reject my OWN uploads of SYNCHED OUT twice?????

BEST version of SYNCHED OUT (reuploaded by Proloftz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P9k7Et4zUk

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:58 pm

Youtube should furnish you with that answer Simon!

Bastards

Pants their shitting they are in

Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:16 pm

(thought i had breaking news! brian beat me off the mark)

Someone must have been very sensitive about the contents of that video.
My videos usually get pulled cos i'm using copyrighted music.
Simon uses all original music and gets a video pulled...
Someone out there is a real zealot.

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:22 pm

timothymurphy @ Sep 11 2010, 10:16 PM wrote:

(thought i had breaking news! brian beat me off the mark)

Someone must have been very sensitive about the contents of that video.
My videos usually get pulled cos i'm using copyrighted music.
Simon uses all original music and gets a video pulled...
Someone out there is a real zealot.

Sorry Tim,

I hope Simon's video pissed all over their 9/11 Parade....at which nobody attended save a few lackeys.

Unread post by **Dcopymope** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:48 pm

timothymurphy 4 Sep 11 2010, 10:16 PM wrote:

(thought i had breaking news! brian beat me off the mark)

Someone must have been very sensitive about the contents of that video.
My videos usually get pulled cos i'm using copyrighted music.
Simon uses all original music and gets a video pulled...
Someone out there is a real zealot.

As far as I can tell, they don't even remove the video itself if the music is copyrighted, they'll just cut off the audio, so we know that’s not the reason why it was removed, because all of his videos would have been removed by now. Simon should just upload the video without the music like in the blip.tv version. If the video still gets removed then we'll know for sure that it’s being censored.

Unread post by **simonshack** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:02 pm

Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 09:48 PM wrote: Simon should just upload the video without the music like in the blip.tv version. If the video still gets removed then we'll know for sure that it’s being censored.

Well...uh...the music (with the sitar) was all recorded in my studio. The indian sitar is played by my friend Luca. The final part is my own band adding drums, guitars, bass and keyboards...

I'll try to upload it again just as it was.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have been trying to submit a counter-notification : Youtube simply doesn't let me do it (due to an area which always remains red although I have compiled it correctly) !!!!

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:05 pm

simonshack 4 Sep 11 2010, 11:02 PM wrote:
Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 09:48 PM wrote: Simon should just upload the video without the music like in the blip.tv version. If the video still gets removed then we'll know for sure that it’s being censored.
Well...uh...the music (with the sitar) was all recorded in my studio. The indian sitar is played by my friend Luca. The final part is my own band adding drums, guitars, bass and keyboards...

:huh:

I'll try to upload it again just as it was.

Simon, didnt they contact you regarding it's removal?

Email them and ask why it was removed!!

Unread post by **simonshack** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:08 pm

brianv @ Sep 11 2010, 10:05 PM wrote:
Email them and ask why it was removed!!

I just can't find a direct e-mail to them ! Can you? Help!

Unread post by **Dcopymope** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:08 pm

simonshack @ Sep 11 2010, 11:02 PM wrote:
Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 09:48 PM wrote: Simon should just upload the video without the music like in the blip.tv version. If the video still gets removed then we'll know for sure that it’s being censored.
Well...uh...the music (with the sitar) was all recorded in my studio. The indian sitar is played by my friend Luca. The final part is my own band adding drums, guitars, bass and keyboards...

:huh:

I'll try to upload it again just as it was.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have been trying to submit a counter-notification : Youtube simply doesn't let me do it (due to an area which always remains red although I have compiled it correctly) !!!!

You should upload it at normal speed like the Blip.TV version.

Unread post by **simonshack** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:10 pm

Dcopymope @ Sep 11 2010, 10:08 PM wrote:
You should upload it at normal speed like the Blip.TV version.

Not possible: Youtube won't take videos longer than 10 minutes.

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:12 pm

simonshack @ Sep 11 2010, 11:08 PM wrote:
brianv 4 Sep 11 2010, 10:05 PM wrote:
Email them and ask why it was removed!!
I just can't find a direct e-mail to them ! Can you? Help!

"When we remove content for violating our policies, the user who posted it receives a strike. The type depends on the reason for the removal: copyright strikes are separate from community guidelines strikes. In either case, the user is notified via email and via an alert that appears the next time the user logs in to YouTube."

https://www.google.com/support/youtube/ ... swer=92486

Looking now!!

Unread post by **Dcopymope** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:15 pm

simonshack 4 Sep 11 2010, 11:10 PM wrote:
Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 10:08 PM wrote:
You should upload it at normal speed like the Blip.TV version.
Not possible: Youtube won't take videos longer than 10 minutes.

Not true, because the video below is over two hours long. It doesn't actually stop you from uploading a video thats more than ten minutes long, it just recommends that you don't.

EndGame

Unread post by **brianv** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:22 pm

Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 11:15 PM wrote:
simonshack 4 Sep 11 2010, 11:10 PM wrote:
Dcopymope 4 Sep 11 2010, 10:08 PM wrote:
You should upload it at normal speed like the Blip.TV version.
Not possible: Youtube won't take videos longer than 10 minutes.
Not true, because the video below is over two hours long. It doesn't actually stop you from uploading a video thats more than ten minutes long, it just recommends that you don't.

EndGame

That account was set up in 2006 when you could select the type of channel you wished. A directors account was the one to grab for full length videos! Youtube changed their accounts policies later but didnt downgrade the existing channel holders!

Simon, I can't find a contact for YT!

Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:25 pm

not sure if this is any good:

http://www.youtube.com/copyright_comp???laint_form

[email protected]

i guess they can pass it along to the italian or US people.