Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby simonshack on Tue May 22, 2018 7:22 am

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Dear Thisisunreal,

Yes, this is unreal. -_- (said by an ex semi-pro photographer who, admittedly many years ago, worked with several pros who were all totally obsessed / paranoid about keeping their expensive and delicate equipment out of harm's way. As it is, a mere scratch on those telephoto lenses would be disastrous - yet they let them float around the ISS like children's party balloons?... ).
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby thisisunreal on Wed May 23, 2018 5:04 pm

Normal laws of photography do not apply

Space is a fascinating frontier for photography. It was only when I started looking at the new unofficial official ISS photographer, Thomas Pesquet, I noticed that the basic ‘laws’ of photography do not apply in space. The EXIF data (the data attached to each image) are also interesting as in a sense they are they ‘key’ to the photo.

Pin Sharp Night Shots whilst speeding by? No problem!

On earth, a minimum shutter speed required for a good sharp photo is said to be the reciprocal of the lens length (as a minimum). So, if you have a 400mm lens, the minimum shutter speed should be 1/400th of a second. Common sense would also suggest that if you are moving at 17,000mph whilst floating over a spinning earth, you might want to increase that a touch! Let’s have a look.

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Nice crisp image then taken at…….1/20th of a second!

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We’re now down to 1/15th of a second and still reasonable! No discernible blur.

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Curious that this photo is not significantly darker than the last two given that the ISO value is set to zero. Perhaps this is another anomaly caused by space photography! Roughly 2.3 miles are covered in the duration of the shutter being open and still no blur!

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So….we’re now down to 0.3 of a second and still no discernible blurring! And why is the value expressed differently in the EXIF data? This is not the only anomaly! Curious. Moreover, we’re using a 28mm lens, a perfectly ‘terrestrial’ wide angle lens to photograph the earth from 200 miles up! In addition, the low shutter speed plus insanely high ISO could / should give massive overexposure according to earlier variables on the photos above, but no! It looks great.

No monopod? No problem!

This is how monopods (a single legged tripod) are used in conjunction with a telephoto lens on earth. I know what you’re thinking…….they don’t need one the ISS because it’s a weightless environment? Partly correct. The monopod also absorbs or prevents the natural shake from the body that transmits and amplifies down the length of the telephoto barrel, which can cause blur.

Don't spare a thought for the movement of your body, the camera, the ISS hurtling by at 17,000mph and the spinning earth below. Just float and snap away with a focal length up to 1100mm!

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ISS style photography. No bracing of the camera, monopod. Just good clean floating photography!

Blurring the boundaries

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“Houston. We have a problem”! It’s the old different pylon structures again (first called out by Simon in this thread). Still unashamedly being touted around the place.

Can anybody honestly say that that represents a ‘real’ photography and not ‘digital imagery’?

However, because you see thousands of photos that look ‘correct’ your brain will not call out the anomaly and say,

“Hold on…...what on earth is that”?

If we eventually cannot discern the difference between a photograph and composite or pure digital imagery then we have very big problems indeed. The lie hides in plain sight and the intention I feel is to completely blur those boundaries in order that our perceptions are completely fooled to the point that we remain passive, completely uncritical. This means that future psyops can be less and less impressive with more and more discontinuities, poor storylines, obvious media assets and contradictions and yet…….we will never raise a murmur. I mean look at those arrays! They're absolutely mind numbing.

A photo too far

Incredibly foreground sharpness combined with terrific earth detail also, using the classic photojournalists lens (24-70mm) set to 36mm! Possible? Doubtful.

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No wonder Nikon are the official choice for NASA if they can produce imagery like this! Given the competitive nature of Nikon and Canon cameras, it surprises me that Nikon doesn't make more of this incredible relationship between NASA and themselves! It’s almost as if they play it down! Curious.
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby thisisunreal on Wed May 23, 2018 5:25 pm

simonshack » May 22nd, 2018, 7:22 am wrote:*
Dear Thisisunreal,

Yes, this is unreal. -_- (said by an ex semi-pro photographer who, admittedly many years ago, worked with several pros who were all totally obsessed / paranoid about keeping their expensive and delicate equipment out of harm's way. As it is, a mere scratch on those telephoto lenses would be disastrous - yet they let them float around the ISS like children's party balloons?... ).


Yes indeed Simon, I quite agree. I cannot accept this at all. I find it offensive. I mean......where does it end? Next they'll be doing it with videocameras :o

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby Altair on Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:24 am

You're probably aware of the recent government change in Spain. What has this to do with the ISS? Very simple: the new minister of Science and Technology is no other than... Pedro Duque, the Spanish 'astronaut' who purportedly spent some days in the ISS.
Wrote something about him here. Curiously enough, the YT vids I linked have been removed.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=720&p=2402835&hilit=pedro+duque#p2402835
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby brianv on Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:33 pm

Truly painful to see you guys floundering in moronic nonsense.

Scratched lenses my arse. There are no Cameras or anything else.

The ISS is a VR and Augmented Reality....dare i say Shack, no Shed will do.

Watch this video, yes it has "Flat Earth" in the title, a broad church as far as I can tell. And don't start questioning me about my beliefs, I don't have any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knrh5PYDwKI

And in case you are interested, I have done what one of the commenters has mentioned. You all know I study C++ for a past-time, I have done this AR/Optical Flow tutorial with a Webcam and a Command Prompt. Watch!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNtzgoEGC1Y

Scratched Lenses. :lol: :lol:

And eveything else on this site has gone the same way.

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby russellkanning on Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:03 am

they hold the mic more carefully than their juggled cameras
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby simonshack on Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:36 pm

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ISS crew now "essentially marooned" :lol:

And so the ISS soap opera goes on...


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia1DtOxPKiU

Do not miss Chris Hadfield's commentary at 2:22 of above Sky News clip!
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby pov603 on Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:28 am

:) “...the sixty-fifth flight...” no less...
Yes indeed Simon, worth a listen to Chris, as he so so aptly puts it (paraphrasing slightly) “...there are no vehicles on earth that can make it into space...none...er...”

Edit: changed “ships” to “vehicles” and added “none”
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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby Undoctored on Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:02 am

simonshack » October 14th, 2018, 4:36 pm wrote:ISS crew now "essentially marooned" :lol:

And so the ISS soap opera goes on...

Do not miss Chris Hadfield's commentary at 2:22 of above Sky News clip!


For full emotional impact you won’t want to miss Commander Hadfield’s rendition of “Rocket Man” either. Yes, I think it's gonna be a long, long, time.

And I think it's gonna be a long long time
Till touch down brings me round again to find
I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no, no, no, I'm a rocket man
Rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone


I was just listening to the original “Rocket Man.” For some reason Hadfield left out these two lines:

Elton John wrote:And all this science, I don't understand
It's just my job, five days a week

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Re: Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

Postby sharpstuff on Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:19 am

Is this latest story a 'way out' for the I.S.S. fiasco?

Is this to be another long-lasting tear-jerker for public consumption?

Are we now to be assailed by permanent reminders of this farce?

Will the Farce be with us?

Are the oceans too full of spent rockets?

Are we looking at an upcomming of a new version of 'Marooned'?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064639/

Do we care?

Questions, questions...
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