Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

[alexsanchez]

I get banned from these conspiracy forums all the time. I tell the truth, somebody calls me a liar, I say fuck you, then sayonara. I try to get friends and former coworkers to join this or some other forum and back me up on what I say, but when they read what you say about me, they say no thanks. I can easily prove what I say, but that would give away my real name, and since I still work as a consultant in the business, I don't want my real name coming up. I could show you a patent with my name on it on google patents, where the owner of the patent is ITT (itt.com.) But it has my real name on it.

I don't need you people. I just happen to know how big the real conspiracy is. I don't have first hand knowledge about the ISS, Apollo, or 911 conspiracy, but what I do have first hand knowledge on is a bigger conspiracy, and I won't talk about that because nobody here would believe me, since nobody even believes the mundane things I do talk about.

I'm semi-retired. I do some consulting work when they need somebody with knowledge on legacy systems. I get a pension from 14 years with Boeing. Altogether I worked 25 years full time in aerospace, and the last 5 years as an occasional contractor. I have a good friend who is the director of engineering at Boeing Phantom Works, where I also worked. Another former co-worker is director of engineering at a company in silicon valley. My college roommate is a director of engineering at Panasonic.

I could go into more detail, but everything is so esoteric, unless you worked in my profession, it would go over your head. Frankly, most of the work is boring and mundane. As a software engineer on a big project, you get handed a requirements document with a bunch of equations, and you sit down and write the software to implement the requirements. However, I've worked on lots of projects where I was the lead engineer and would not only write the requirements, and even the proposal, and then oversee the software development, followed by (in my case) going up in a military helicopter, or boat, or tank to test the final system. But the details are pretty boring. I've had top secret, special access, and polygraph clearances, worked in vaults, and spent time at the Lockheed skunk works sitting in a U2 at 3 AM, checking stuff out before a test flight, where people there are high level air force and possibly CIA, but for all that, there's nothing secret I ever saw that would be of any interest to anybody. Well, there were a couple things, like the invisibility cloak, and the laser death ray, but why should I bother talking about anything. Everybody on site wears jeans and has an identical badge with a red dot. Anybody in uniform is just a low level worker. You don't ever ask anybody who they work for because it's against protocol. The reason you don't have anybody offering first hand knowledge here is because they would be instantly attacked on a forum such as this, and called a troll, and why would they risk saying anything anyway when there's nothing to be gained.

But I do have first hand knowledge of a conspiracy of the highest order. I don't talk about it because, again, people would call me a liar. It's too big for the average person to grasp. I'm even afraid to talk about it. It's so big people think it can't be true. But I know about it because I'm a victim of it. There are ruthless people in this world, and it trickles down to even the low level people. I know those kind of people. I think there's something genetic to it. David Icke talks about reptilians and shape shifters. I think he's wrong on that point, but he's close. If you tell somebody a secret, and give them a little power over other people's lives, it goes straight to their head, and they change. I witnessed it first hand. My own brother changed. He works in aerospace.

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." - J. Edgar Hoover

"There is a power so organized, so subtle, so complete, and so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - President Woodrow Wilson

"...we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence" - JFK

[Heiwa]

As a software engineer on a big project, you get handed a requirements document with a bunch of equations, and you sit down and write the software to implement the requirements. However, I've worked on lots of projects where I was the lead engineer and would not only write the requirements, and even the proposal, and then oversee the software development, followed by (in my case) going up in a military helicopter, or boat, or tank to test the final system.

Fascinating. You a lead engineer! Oversaw the software development! And tested the final system!
What was there in between? Please, tell us more! Fantasies!

[alexsanchez]

"Fascinating. You a lead engineer! Oversaw the software development! And tested the final system! Fantasies!" - Heiwa

For a while, my company-issued business card said "software chief engineer, advanced targeting systems." How do you like them apples? I have a scanned picture of it, but I'm not going to show you. I don't have to prove anything to anybody, unless I'm getting paid. Argue amongst yourselves. And, on a personal note... FUCK YOU!!! (This is where I usually get banned. Ohhh... like I can't sign up as somebody else and fake my IP address as the South Pole.)

And this pic looks fake. Is that the sun in the background? Is that spaceship supposed to be on Mars? Obviously photoshopped.
guesshermuff.blogspot.com/2012/09/girl-3215.html?zx=a8efea2a0d55a9d5

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift

[LightCone]

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alexsanchez:

To the best of your knowledge, are all of these fake space missions a cover-up for a highly-advanced/top-secret space program? Is a highly-advanced space program a tool of this vast conspiracy?

[pshea38]

alexsanchez:

Will The U.S. collapse this year (from within)? Do you have any knowledge regarding this issue?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread564758/pg1
Have power seats moved East?

Was 9/11 a completely faked symbolic beginning to the endgame
that is the destruction of the dollar, and thereafter America itself?
Were ALL the differing 'main-stream' 9/11 conspiracy meant to
become public knowledge, just before the 'fall'?

Do chemtrails tie in with October 24th 2012?

I would appreciate any response.

[Maat]

Troll Exposure 101

I get banned from these conspiracy forums all the time. I tell the truth, somebody calls me a liar, I say fuck you, then sayonara. …

Wrong! Firstly, this is not a “conspiracy forum”; we investigate, analyze and expose media fakery and hoaxers like you! No, you don’t get “banned all the time” for “telling the truth” but because you are obviously such an ignorant, arrogant troll that even fundamentalist “conspiracy” groups can recognize it

I don't need you people. I just happen to know how big the real conspiracy is. I don't have first hand knowledge about the ISS, Apollo, or 911 conspiracy, but what I do have first hand knowledge on is a bigger conspiracy, and I won't talk about that because nobody here would believe me, since nobody even believes the mundane things I do talk about. …

Bull Shit! If you didn’t “need” people like us to get your pathological kicks, you wouldn’t return to play the same transparently stupid mind games because you’re too thick to learn that not all government/media disbelievers are the mindless loons you’ve been indoctrinated to assume they are.

I could go into more detail, but everything is so esoteric, unless you worked in my profession, it would go over your head. …[blah, blah] … there's nothing secret I ever saw that would be of any interest to anybody. Well, there were a couple things, like the invisibility cloak, and the laser death ray, but why should I bother talking about anything.

Because fabricating More Shit in “detail” requires a level of imagination and intellect you lack! Anyone with genuine intent, knowledge and a modicum of intelligence knows how to communicate anything true, important or relevant to be understood by everyone.

But I do have first hand knowledge of a conspiracy of the highest order. I don't talk about it because, again, people would call me a liar. It's too big for the average person to grasp. I'm even afraid to talk about it. It's so big people think it can't be true. But I know about it because I'm a victim of it. There are ruthless people in this world, and it trickles down to even the low level people. I know those kind of people. I think there's something genetic to it. David Icke talks about reptilians and shape shifters. I think he's wrong on that point, but he's close. If you tell somebody a secret, and give them a little power over other people's lives, it goes straight to their head, and they change. I witnessed it first hand. My own brother changed. He works in aerospace.

Piled Higher and Deeper! Cue the X-Files theme

And the final QED of a conspiracy troll — parrot the standard disinformation with viral out-of-context quote memes:

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." - J. Edgar Hoover

See original full context re Communism: http://metabunk.org/threads/330-Debunke ... 8Hoover%29

"There is a power so organized, so subtle, so complete, and so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - President Woodrow Wilson

Ref original context: http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2360227#p2360227

"...we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence" – JFK

Ref original speech context (Cold War, Communism): http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2359608#p2359608

Argue amongst yourselves. And, on a personal note... FUCK YOU!!! (This is where I usually get banned. Ohhh... like I can't sign up as somebody else and fake my IP address as the South Pole.)

No kidding! Like we couldn’t figure out you’re the same troll by the same attitude and MO? In fact, anonymized IPs only serve to confirm ill intent when combined with other tell-tale behaviors. You’re not very bright at all, are you

[Libero]

I found this video originally on youtube and sourced it back to Nasa's website which I have posted below. A strange thing happens at the 2:37-2:38 mark prior to the cut scene -- the color jumps right out of the clear bag that supposedly is holding the coffee almost like it was layered and the color layer slipped. Maybe someone more expert at video editing may have a better explanation?

Nasa's description:
Using a piece of transparent plastic and some tape, STS-126 Mission Specialist Don Pettit builds a coffee cup that works in a weightless environment.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogal ... =130992951

[simonshack]

I found this video originally on youtube and sourced it back to Nasa's website which I have posted below. A strange thing happens at the 2:37-2:38 mark prior to the cut scene -- the color jumps right out of the clear bag that supposedly is holding the coffee almost like it was layered and the color layer slipped. Maybe someone more expert at video editing may have a better explanation?

Wow! Weightless NASA coffee behaves just like my first morning coffee - following a heavy night of partying !




However, it rarely starts snowing in my kitchen on those occasions !



We should be grateful to NASA for all the technological advances their relentless research brings to us - to enhance our earthly lives. All money well spent!

[reichstag fireman]

These rogues must feel really filthy, belching out fib after fib!




And here's the alleged optical kit which took his phony shots of the imaginary ISS.



The Meade 8" LX200 @ f/10 telescope has a fixed focal length of 2000mm (see user manual, below).

The Samsung SDC-435 is a strange (implausible) choice for camera. It is obsolete 1970s CCTV technology. Intended only for security surveillance (for catching crooks, like NASA). It has only an analog (CVBS) video output and is very low resolution (600 TVL). The footage it produces (even if it was genuine, which of course it is not) would have to be re-digitised. Degrading the quality even further.

A few back-of-envelope calculations for someone..

NASA claims that its phony "Space Station" is at least 330km from the earth. According to Wonkypedia, the non-existent spacecraft measures 109 metres by 73 metres at its widest points.

According to the telescope manufacturer, (see p.24 of user manual), the Meade 8" LX200 telescope can magnify at up to 500x under "very steady" conditions. Though "generally, however, lower powers of perhaps 250x to 350x will be the maximum permissible."

The hoaxster supposedly took the (phony) image above with the "modified" CCTV camera in a "prime focus configuration". That is bolted directly to the telescope, without using an eyepiece.

Even if we are generous to the hoaxster, and plump for an eye-watering 350x magnification, we can soon show that his photos are a pathetic fraud.


Meade LX200 User Manual: http://www.meade.com/manuals/TelescopeM ... Manual.pdf
Samsung SDC-435 Data Sheet: http://www.sourcesecurity.com/docs/full ... -435_E.pdf

[ADMIN:
The above Meade LX200 link may no longer function. Try: http://www.ou.edu/lunarsooners/index/Me ... Manual.pdf -HP 1-17-18]

[reel.deal]

The hoaxster supposedly took the (phony) image above with the "modified" CCTV camera in a "prime focus configuration". That is bolted directly to the telescope, without using an eyepiece.

Even if we are generous to the hoaxster, and plump for an eye-watering 350x magnification, we can soon show that his photos are a pathetic fraud.

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2365726
http://www.cluesforum.info/memberlist.p ... ile&u=1836
http://www.cluesforum.info/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts

[reichstag fireman]

At www.youtube.com/spacelab a livestream from the non-existent ISS will start in just 15 minutes (14:50 GMT).

NASA will demonstrate its Amazing Zero-G experiments with Incredible "jumping spiders and bacteria".

Afterwards, NASA will host a *live* chat session with questions from the Awestruck imbeciles in the Circus audience.

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[ADMIN: The above video "YouTube Space Lab: Live From 250 Miles Above the Earth" seems to have been removed. Consider the below instead. -HP 1-17-18]


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCQVXEgSbrk

[westhammer]

http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl ... arth.dhtml

[jaki]

iss032e025258.jpg (73.45 KiB) Viewed 3926 times

SOURCE: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/ima ... 25258.html
(See source for high-res version of image)

ISS032-E-025258 (5 Sept. 2012) --- Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency astronaut Aki Hoshide, Expedition 32 flight engineer, uses a digital still camera to expose a photo of his helmet visor during the mission's third session of extravehicular activity (EVA). During the six-hour, 28-minute spacewalk, Hoshide and NASA astronaut Sunita Williams (visible in the reflections of Hoshide's helmet visor), flight engineer, completed the installation of a Main Bus Switching Unit (MBSU) that was hampered last week by a possible misalignment and damaged threads where a bolt must be placed. They also installed a camera on the International Space Station's robotic arm, Canadarm2. The bright sun is visible at left.

I have little experience in photo analysis or photography but there are two things in this image that strike me as odd.
First, can you really point a camera directly at the sun and take a photo?
I would very much like to hear from those with photography experience if this possible.
The second thing that seems wrong is the size of the Earth compared with the ISS in the helmet reflection.
I know the fish-eye effect of the helmet skews the proportions but the image seems to capture the entire earth behind the ISS.
I do not believe the ISS is at a high enough altitude to capture the entire earth in one photo.
I could be wrong or perhaps the fish-eye reflection really is the cause somehow.

The entire image just looks a little too perfect. It could be poster in the NASA gift shop.

Since I believe the entire space program is fake there are probably more inconsistencies viewable in the high-res version at the source link.

[Heiwa]

The International Space Station, ISS, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... ce_Station) is, we are told, in a low earth orbit that varies from 320 000 m to 400 000 m above the Earth's surface. The speed needed to achieve a stable low Earth orbit is about 7 800 m/s, but reduces with (higher) altitude.
How to get away from the ISS down to Earth alive since the US Shuttle flights are cancelled is not clear. The Shuttle had ascended on an increasingly horizontal flight path under power from its main engines and upon reaching 7 800 m/s necessary for low Earth orbit the main engines were shut down. The Shuttle could then dock with the ISS. To return to Earth the Shuttle must evidently slow down after undocking.

The Shuttle return flights, in the old days, were something as follows:

To slow the Shuttle down from its extreme orbit speed, 7 800 m/s, we are told the Shuttle flipped around and actually flow backwards for a period of time. The orbital maneuvering engines (OMS) then thrust the Shuttle out of orbit and toward Earth. Due to loss of potential energy the Shuttle speed now increases to about 9 000 m/s at an altitude of 130 000 m.

During reentry and landing, the Shuttle then was not powered by engines. Instead, it flow like a high-tech glider, relying first on its steering jets and then its aero surfaces to control the airflow around it.

Roughly half an hour after the de-orbit burn, the 78 000 kg Shuttle began to encounter the effects of the atmosphere. Called entry interface, this point usually was at an altitude of about 130 000 m, and more than 8 000 000 m from landing airport.

Average velocity during 30 minutes landing was about 4 500 m/s – so starting velocity was as said above 9 000 m/s and final velocity 0 m/s during 1 800 s. Average deceleration during landing is 5 m/s² or 0.51 g … only due to friction and airflow control. It means that an average brake force of 390 000 N was applied on the Shuttle for half an hour. Imagine that! Compare a typical airplane landing on a 1 000 m strip during 44.4 s at 55 m/s initial speed (200 km/h) in contact with ground. Then deceleration is then 1.24 m/s² or 0.12 g. The Shuttle was subject to a brake force and deceleration four times (!!) greater than a normal plane for 40 times longer time when landing and with no contact with ground. Air friction is really magic. So seat belts really had to be secured for people aboard the Shuttle not to fly off their seats.

The potential energy of the Shuttle at 130 000 m altitude is say 78 000 x 130 000 x 8 = 81.1 GJ (or 1.04 MJ/kg) and the kinetic energy of the Shuttle at 9 000 m/s velocity is 78000 x 9000²/2 = 3 159 GJ (or 40.5 MJ/kg), i.e. the latter dominates.

Early in reentry, the Shuttle’s orientation was controlled by the aft steering jets, part of the reaction control system. But during descent, the Shuttle flies less like a spacecraft and more like an aircraft. Its aero surfaces -- the wing flaps and rudder -- gradually become active as air pressure builds. As those surfaces become usable, the steering jets turn off automatically.

To use up 3 159 GJ excess energy, the Shuttle performed a series of four steep banks, rolling over as much as 80 degrees to one side or the other, to slow down. The series of banks gives the shuttle's track toward landing an appearance similar to an elongated letter "S." So acrobatic flying is apparently required to land on the Earth after a visit to space.

As the Shuttle sliced through the atmosphere faster than the speed of sound (say 340 m/s), the sonic boom -- really, two distinct claps less than a second apart -- could be heard across parts of Florida, depending on the flight path, we are told.

The Shuttle's velocity eased below the speed of sound (340 m/s) about 25 statute miles (40 000 m) from the runway. As the Shuttle nears the Shuttle Landing Facility, SLF, the commander takes manual control, piloting the vehicle to touchdown on one of two ends of the SLF.

The above apparently applies to the Shuttle getting back in one piece to Earth using very advanced, impossible (?) braking maneuvers starting at 9 000 m/s speed, believe it or not.

Nowadays you fly to the ISS using a Russian Soyuz space capsule. How it manages to get down to Earth in one piece after visiting the ISS is not clear to me. After undocking from the ISS at 7 800 m/s speed and 320 000 m altitude, its rocket gives it a push downwards and then the velocity just increases until Earth’s atmosphere friction start to reduce the speed, like Apollo 11, while heating up the Soyuz space capsule … until it burns up, I assume. It seems it is impossible to get down from the ISS alive today ... and yesterday. So what idiots are up there?

[reichstag fireman]

The hoaxster supposedly took the (phony) image above with the "modified" CCTV camera in a "prime focus configuration". That is bolted directly to the telescope, without using an eyepiece.

Even if we are generous to the hoaxster, and plump for an eye-watering 350x magnification, we can soon show that his photos are a pathetic fraud.

http://www.cluesforum.info/memberlist.p ... ile&u=1836

The old crook must have missed this thread! Understandable!