Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on July 7th, 2011, 2:36 pm

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At McNASA's today: all you can eat !
PICK YOUR FAVORITE SPACE SUNDAE !

"The Shaky Spinner Special" - with whipped Earth-Cream topping
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHzMNMNf-Wc

"The Star Peekaboo Surprise" - with a yummy dash of flashing stars
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snfY5CZ3-Jw
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby robertk13 on July 10th, 2011, 5:59 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fEOcatnHLs
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on July 12th, 2011, 9:57 pm

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Ok, folks - so let's get back to serious business now.


IS THE NASA IMAGERY MADE
WITH SCALE MODELS AND SWIMMING-POOL FOOTAGE?


Most of the people of this planet who read the title above willl just shrug their shoulders and say : "Duh - such bullcrap!"

Well, I submit hereby that the real bullcrap is what NASA has been proposing for all of these years. Please bear with me for a while and concentrate on the issues at hand. Firstly, I will look at the installation (in 2008) of the "KIBO" module (an alleged, Japanese addition to the ISS - the International Space Station). Here is a fast timelapse loop showing KIBO (and on top of it, its successive addition - the so-called ELM-PS): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSxdfyOmj4

The KIBO MODULE__________________________________________The ELM-PS :
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Now, let us take a look at the NASA images released in 2008 - just as KIBO was being installed onto the ISS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQHfX3krSlg

As you will easily see for yourself (yes, I'm trying to nudge your brains a little towards what is obvious to me) what we see here is a scale model illuminated with quite amateurish studio lighting. Take your time and look at it. Whatever I'd say will only sound if I wished to mess with your brain - use your own! Please take the time to let these animated gif loops upload on your computer. This is a rather important matter which requires one's utmost attention. And yes, the jagged camera movements are all part of the show - NOT something that I have added myself (just check out the original NASA video!). These short, abrupt camera movements (due to tripod adjustments) are a standard feature - in the realm of scale model filming... I happen to know that - from experience !
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Next, take a good look at this other video loop, made from the original NASA video. We have (what looks like) the shadow of the nose of an airliner, gradually obscuring the KIBO module. The thing is: since these two shots are evidently sequential (and NASA shows them in this uninterrupted sequence), do the relative angles of Mother Earth's backdrop, and the Space Shuttle, and the lighting of these two clearly adjacent shots seem in any way compatible with reality? And where are these evidently fix-mounted cameras placed on the ISS? Has NASA equipped the ISS with cameras capable of every imaginable (and unimaginable) angle? Are these angles even possible? Sorry folks, but I just have to call "bullshit" at these preposterous images.
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Moreover, the perfect little pink ring on the right is supposed to be a 'lens flare'!!!) :D :D :D

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THE CHINESE SPACE PROGRAM (long exposed as fake)
Now, we have this American researcher scoffing at the Chinese Space Program - justly exposing it as a pathetic hoax (the whole spacewalk scene was obviously filmed in a big swimming pool). Please spend some time looking at it - it's actually pretty hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g


The problem is, what this American researcher fails to do, is to look at his own nations' hoaxes. Here is just the first (of many) examples that shows what NASA has been selling to the public - featuring images of swimming-pool Astronautics - just like the Chinese(only slightly more realistic):


STS 118 Spacewalk Releasing Water Particles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g

I mean, come on now (although I hate to say this in such assuming manner): what exactly is that flash we see here as the Astronautic raises up - as if carried by powerful water pumps. I say it is a subacquean camera (equipped with a flash) taking a good picture of the scene. And what are all those bubbles that we see? Hmm?
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Also, why is everything so incredibly overexposed and colorless? Is it to hide something?
Perhaps we are not supposed to see that scuba diver with his oxygen tank inside the module?
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TO BE SURE, NASA HAS RELEASED THE ABOVE 'SPACEWALK' AS "FILMED DURING THE STS 118 MISSION". :huh: :rolleyes:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby atheist on July 12th, 2011, 10:35 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
simonshack wrote:2: The Earth surface stays totally level with the ISS all along the timelapse - as if the International Space Station never wobbles by a whisker in relation to our planet! Let me just express my opinion: this is just grotesquely silly. NASA - and ESA - are fooling with our minds.

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2. I am not sure it should wobble, after all in void, and without propulsion engines, there is no turbulence...

...that said, I distinctly remember hearing one of the actornauts in one of the videos of sts-134 (probably this video), saying that the ISS spins on itself slowly as it orbits around the earth, adding that actornaut nespoli could vouch he felt the spinning, because it created a little artificial gravity on board. So, in the timelaps, where is the damn spinning?

To keep things in right direction in space - they use gyroscopes or spinning wheels. The are pretty accurate and simple to use. Here is an easy example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAmEEAiJWo having said that... This was just for your information. No idea what is happening on that video.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby brianv on July 12th, 2011, 10:52 pm

atheist wrote:
nonhocapito wrote:
simonshack wrote:2: The Earth surface stays totally level with the ISS all along the timelapse - as if the International Space Station never wobbles by a whisker in relation to our planet! Let me just express my opinion: this is just grotesquely silly. NASA - and ESA - are fooling with our minds.




2. I am not sure it should wobble, after all in void, and without propulsion engines, there is no turbulence...

...that said, I distinctly remember hearing one of the actornauts in one of the videos of sts-134 (probably this video), saying that the ISS spins on itself slowly as it orbits around the earth, adding that actornaut nespoli could vouch he felt the spinning, because it created a little artificial gravity on board. So, in the timelaps, where is the damn spinning?

To keep things in right direction in space - they use gyroscopes or spinning wheels. The are pretty accurate and simple to use. Here is an easy example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAmEEAiJWo having said that... This was just for your information. No idea what is happening on that video.


There is neither up nor down in space, what use would gyroscopes be?
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on July 13th, 2011, 12:13 am

Ok folks

I guess it's GAME OVER for the "International Space Station"...

Here's a video clip with Mark Kelly (talking about his 'Giffords' wife being shot in Tucson).
Now, will you ask me why these various pieces of paper seem to be connected by a wire
- and spin around Mark's microphone? Well - it's weightlessness for you! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X61mKC7g3w

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X61mKC7g3w

You may believe in "zero-gravity" - and you may believe in the ISS... But if you believe that this video represents space reality - I just cannot help you!
I must add that the demeanour of Mark's three colleagues (whoever they are) grinning at his words concerning his wife's shooting - classifies them as terminally unsensitive idiots! Would NASA ever invite and take on total idiots on their spacecrafts? YOU decide!
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby pshea38 on July 13th, 2011, 2:00 am

simonshack wrote:Ok folks

I guess it's GAME OVER for the "International Space Station"...

Here's a video clip with Mark Kelly (talking about his 'Giffords' wife being shot in Tucson).
Now, will you ask me why these various pieces of paper seem to be connected by a wire
- and move with Mark's microphone? Well - I really don't know. Do you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X61mKC7g3w

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X61mKC7g3w

You may believe in "zero-gravity" - and you may believe in the ISS... But if you believe that this video represents space reality - I just cannot help you!
I must add that the demeanour of Mark's three colleagues (whoever they are) grinning at his words concerning his wife's shooting - classifies them as terminally unsensitive idiots! Would NASA ever invite and take on total idiots on their spacecrafts? YOU decide!



That just looks like plastic tags taped around the cable of a rather dated looking microphone.
Same plug in microphone and cable a singer in your local pub would use.

The background is clearly pasted in.
Kellys eyes look very weird to me.

How do you suppose they achive the effect to mimic the weightlessness of the neckchain of the man on the left
and the ring on a string around kellys neck?

You might be a little hard on his fellow space travellers. The interview is chipper.
The news is good, all is well on earth as it is in space, so no morbidity is required of them, in this scene.

At the end kelly goes on about how all the family etc. had a wonderful day at the launch.....
'...despite the fact that we..ah ..went through some clouds there at about 20 seconds'.

How damned inconvenient....for some. ;)
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby brianv on July 13th, 2011, 10:05 am

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Astronauts? More like red-coats in a cheap summer camp, or escapees from Willy Wonka's factory!

The Wrong Stuff.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on July 13th, 2011, 10:11 am

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Dear friends,

I have to apologize for asking you to watch this clip with Italian actornaut Paolo Nespoli slithering through the "International Space Station".
If you are prone to space sickness, don't watch it for too long... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZYysEnvYO4 (at 7:04)

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I am simply going to ask you: HOW was this filmed? Yes, I know - the clip has been accelerated (that's just how it is edited in this NASA documentary - not my fault!). Try to imagine it at slower, uh, 'real' speed. How does this cameraman follow Nespoli with this wonderfully stabilized camera? Have you ever seen such a scene in a Hollywood movie? Yes - possibly. But this is supposed to be filmed by some astronaut floating in zero gravity and having to follow Nespoli while holding his camera. Need I say more? Will some genius tell me how this was filmed - and relieve me from my PP (painful perplexity)?


Here's just a gif showing the last seconds of the above film sequence:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby nonhocapito on July 13th, 2011, 12:55 pm

simonshack wrote:Now, will you ask me why these various pieces of paper seem to be connected by a wire
- and spin around Mark's microphone? Well - it's weightlessness for you! :D

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I too had ended up believing that they might be in front of a green screen hanging by green wires. But then the wires that move in front of the actornauts would cause some accident to their faces, showing up as transparent lines or something. (The oddity of how that cable moves could be caused by the cable material being a little rigid?)

So I resorted into thinking that they are in fact in a set on board of one of those test airplanes, which after all is what they did when they filmed apollo 13 apparently, it shouldn't be too difficult. It is safer if for some reason they have to go live connected with some event (less chance of glitches). But it would certainly be very expensive so I don't know.

Either way: in parts the shots from the inside look a little more presentable and decent (more decent than the outer shoots), which makes it a little harder (for me) to figure out the technique used: but they are so limited and so staged and so pointless they have fakery written all over them anyway.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Terence.drew on July 13th, 2011, 3:55 pm

:ph34r: Come on boys get it right ! You have had plenty of practice!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14121532

At 2:06 in this video from the BBc site entitled last 'shuttle era space walk over', air bubbles appear in the right lower corner of the giant pool :lol:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby atheist on July 13th, 2011, 7:39 pm

brianv wrote:
atheist wrote:To keep things in right direction in space - they use gyroscopes or spinning wheels. The are pretty accurate and simple to use. Here is an easy example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAmEEAiJWo having said that... This was just for your information. No idea what is happening on that video.


There is neither up nor down in space, what use would gyroscopes be?


Well for one its not fun to bang your head against a wall - because of the wobbling effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness#Weightlessness_in_a_spacecraft
Long periods of weightlessness occur on spacecraft outside a planet's atmosphere, provided no propulsion is applied and the vehicle is not rotating. Weightlessness does not occur when a spacecraft is firing its engines...

Two. Humans are usually interested in space in things like - well - The Sun, The moon, The EARTH and when two vehicles meet - they need to be steady compared to each other.
I guess for some this is actually rocket science. B)
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on July 17th, 2011, 9:19 pm

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TRANSPARENT HOAXES - 40 YEARS ON

After 40 years of practice, NASA is still making their astronaughts go transparent:

1969:
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2007:
Image http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNPaneeSe_g

Sitting man at left in blue shirt waves his 'transparent' left hand in front of woman's body. (The momentary glitch occurs just as another man in the immediate foreground moves out of lens view.) Whatever caused this cannot be ascribed to any known video artifact. However, the distortion which 'cuts' the black man's skull is reminiscent of previously observed glitches...

...from high-resolution DVD imagery:

Frame from the Naudet brother's movie "911"
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http://septemberclues.info/synthetic_crowds.htm

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CAMERAS,CAMERAS...
And how many cameras can you see here? Big, bulky ones. There are cameras everywhere. What's the deal with that?
Do these look like serious astronauts with lots of scientific business to do? Are they all on a summer camp - in space?
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So what exactly are they up to up there? Today, on the 9th day of the VERY LAST SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION IN HISTORY,
this is the sort of information you get ...(if you live in Italy) :
BEYONCE' WAKE-UP CALL: http://tv.repubblica.it/tecno-e-scienze ... ef=HREC2-1

Yes - because you see, as Wikipedia explains: "NASA began a tradition of playing music to astronauts during the Gemini program, which was first used to wake up a flight crew during Apollo 15. Each track is specially chosen, often by their family, and usually has special meaning to an individual member of the crew, or is applicable to their daily activities."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-118

It looks like those ...uh... families have a pretty quirky sense of humor.
Here's a selection of "Wake-Up calls" that were played, all during one particular mission (STS118):

- "Mr. Blue Sky" by Electric Light Orchestra
- "Gravity" by John Mayer
- "Up!" by Shania Twain
-"Outa-Space" by Billy Preston
- "Learn to Fly" by Foo Fighters
- "Flying" by Long John Baldry Trio
- "Where My Heart Will Take Me" (theme song of the Star Trek: Enterprise series).
:rolleyes:
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Re: CHINA - and the SUNKEN SHENZHOU-7 effort

Postby reel.deal on July 27th, 2011, 11:48 am

^ ^ ^ :lol: :lol: :lol: ...EPIC !!!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
B)
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby reel.deal on August 29th, 2011, 2:24 am

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Space Station Sees Hurricane Irene on Aug. 26
Cameras mounted on the International Space Station captured new views of Hurricane Irene
at 4:27 p.m. EDT on August 26, 2011 as the storm bore down on the east coast of the US.

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http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=108444791

So... the 'ISS' 'cameras' are hand-held/fixed-mounted/remote-controlled ?
or, all 3, all at the same time... ?!? :huh:

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