Fakery in Orbit: THE I$$

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:37 pm

Rubbish Atmosphere: Space Debris In Orbit
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The European Space Agency has just released these images showing every piece of debris circling the Earth.
Scientists say there are now 12,000 bits of trash in orbit - and only 700 of them are satellites.
Everything from fragmentary remains of exploded craft to tools dropped during spacewalks is out there.Picture courtesy of ESA
At closing speeds reaching 50,000kmph, even the smallest bits of space debris can cause serious harm to spacecraft; larger ones can cause catastrophe. Picture courtesy of ESA 3:19pm UK, Tuesday April 15, 2008
http://news.sky.com/home/media-gallery/1312949
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby I@N on Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:33 pm

Now they say NASA might abandon the ISS...

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.repubblica.it%2Ftecnologia%2F2011%2F09%2F01%2Fnews%2Fshuttle-21125383%2F&act=url

hope you can read the translation from Italian.

Main problems: no more Space Shuttles, no more Soyuz...


SPACE
No Shuttle, Soyuz broken
risks abandoning the ISS
The last U.S. spacecraft was retired in July. While waiting for the U.S. companies will provide new, remain the Soyuz, but Russia has blocked the flights after a failure of last August 24. And the international space station, a jewel from $ 100 billion, could be evacuated


THE SHUTTLE retired, the Soyuz limps. Short of spacecraft that can take the shuttle with Earth, the International Space Station may have to be evacuated. The jewel of $ 100 billion would become so in a ghost ship, destined to orbit the planet with more guests. NASA engineers are still able to guide the trajectory at a distance. But a major fault could also end up plunging the space station on Earth.

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Aboard the station, there are currently six astronauts: three Russians, two Americans and one Japanese. If everything was planned retirement of the Shuttle 3 , which took place in July, no one expected that a cargo ship Soyuz August 24 with 3 tons of food and fuel exploded five minutes after launch. The Russian ships 4 are currently the only "taxi" for space (astronauts and each ride costs U.S. $ 50 million) while waiting for some American private companies, funded by NASA, are able to build spaceships heirs of the Shuttle.

The causes of the Soyuz cargo are still not completely clear (though the viewfinder is one of the rocket's fuel pumps) and the Russian space agency Roskosmos has announced the freezing of all flights until they will be laid bare the origins of the fault. The rocket used for the cargo is in fact very similar to the one used for manned spacecraft. And before the launches can resume with the astronauts, two tests must be carried out unmanned. Failure to meet the roadmap, according to Roskosmos, will be at least a month.

The first consequence is that the three astronauts who had "booked" the return for the Sept. 8 (two Russians and an American) you will turn to lengthen the stay on board the Station, have already lasted six months. At the time their trip is scheduled for September 16, but all depend on the speed of technical Soyuz. The other three colleagues will remain in orbit until at least the end of October instead of returning to Earth on Sept. 22 as expected.

The supplies on board should easily suffice until next summer. But if "for any reason we are unable to return astronauts to the ground by the end of November, we should consider all alternatives, including leaving the station," said the head of human spaceflight of Roskosmos, Alexei Krasnov, backed at a press conference half a world away from fellow American Michael Suffredini, manager of the International Space Station for NASA.

The basic idea of ​​abandoning the orbiter was advanced in 2003, after the crash of the Shuttle Columbia. But in the end a small crew of three astronauts were left on board. If the station had to be abandoned now, for the first time since man set foot on board Nov. 2, 2000, would be used to fit the two "lifeboats" Alpha for three seats each, which are anchored to the station. The last one out should then shut the door, leaving the base behind her cold and empty.

Source: http://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/201 ... -21125383/
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:45 pm

I@N wrote:Now they say NASA might abandon the ISS...


What a joke. I can't help but wondering whether our NASA/Shuttle/ISS research has anything to do with these recent, absurd 'developments'... <_<

If that makes me/us the most presumptuous men on Earth - so be it. We can't be blamed for being proud of our efforts.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby Mudkipz on Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:12 pm

simonshack wrote:
I@N wrote:Now they say NASA might abandon the ISS...


What a joke. I can't help but wondering whether our NASA/Shuttle/ISS research has anything to do with these recent, absurd 'developments'... <_<

If that makes me/us the most presumptuous men on Earth - so be it. We can't be blamed for being proud of our efforts.


Maybe they have a newer fancier waste of money dreamed up by their imagineers to replace it.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:47 am

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CAPTION: "The India-Pakistan border appears as an orange line in this photograph taken by the Expedition 28 crew on the International Space Station (ISS) on Aug. 21, and released Sept. 4. The fence between the two countries is floodlit for surveillance purposes. Srinagar (left), Islamabad (bottom center), Lahore (center near the border) and Delhi (top center) can be seen as brighter spots."
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... ce-station



good to know we are doing our bit helping along MSM/public perceptions, er, i mean - relations!
this image was all over UK media yesterday, like a rash!


ISS CLOSE-UP ? ........................check!
IONOSPHERE ? ........................check!
NON-BLURRED EARTH ? .............check!
STARS ? ...............................check!

so... NOW... all of a sudden... in this 'brand new' 'photo released 9/4/11'...
the EARTH ISNT BLURRED ?
NOW... 'A SHORT EXPOSURE'...
'CAPTURES THE STARS'?!?

messy. NA$A - you do realise this 'photo' contradicts ALL the others!!! dont you ???
get your story straight! ...too late ?
oh dear!
OMG!
lol

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:39 am

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:36 pm

Weightless Cats - I Can Has Gravity ?

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9XtK6R1QAk

CAT IN SPACE

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIokQ36rbA


http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Murphy%27s ... atory_cats

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Advanced computer model
depicting the physics of a
cat-toast device.

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:39 pm

O-SPAN: NASA Tests Effects Of Space On Fat Astronaut

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxe6s_-iYy8

Inflatable space stations take off

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai6_8GK-R0I

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:42 pm

Astronaut demos drinking coffee in space

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk7LcugO3zg

Japan astronaut tests 'flying carpet' in space

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXMGZAXQdgU

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:50 pm

Space Station Hoax : Fast Spinning Dummy Space Station Creates
A Simulated Zero-Gravity on Earth


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZ81ZQmMwM
B)

reel.deal wrote:

ArcAngel4Myke B)
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArcAngel4Myke B)


Space Shuttle Hoax -Disney/NASA Fake Shuttle Models Moved By Hidden Support Beam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJfLsx ... re=related

Space Shuttle Hoax -Astronauts Secretly Exit Space Shuttles At Launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAXxxRmF4Gs&feature=related

Space Shuttle Hoax -Light Reflects off Disney/NASA Fake Earth Models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi17lrcvPi4

Space Shuttle Hoax -Disney/NASA Fake Earth Model Rotates in a Massive Water Pool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrzTipoa42s&feature=related

Space Shuttle Destroyed by TFH - CGI - 2D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KS-ypy88fY&feature=related

International Space Station Hoax : Air Bubbles Rise- Space Walks Simulated in A Massive Water Pool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ynHKGzplQ&feature=related

International Space Station Hoax : Astronauts Admit Faking Space-Walks in A Massive Water Pool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHg-FL8F8NM&NR=1

Space Station Hoax : Scuba Divers Seen With Astronauts Faking A Space-Walk in A Massive Water Pool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvo1svbyLbM&feature=related

SPACE STATION HOAX.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKO6Q3h0htU&feature=related

International Space Station Hoax : Lost Tool Bag Hits The Close Fake Earth Model

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI&feature=related

International Space Station Hoax : Chemical Balls Simulate Lightning On The Fake Earth Model

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCZ-uTn9Sqk&feature=related

NASA's Neutral Buoyancy Lab - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC33yNZGf5o&feature=related

;)


oh yeah !
4 real !

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby Jonathan on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:39 pm

The first video - not one of the links in the list to that stuff of his:

if that thing was a "thing" and "fell down", how did all the other things, including people, not do so?
Observe his explanation, too.

A sloppy answer (to the one who made these YT-clips) would be:
you are very probably right, generally, but what you show here is ... zilch.
The only exception (to me) is around 2.50 in the 4-th link: "Light Reflects off Disney/NASA Fake Earth Models"

It hurts me to watch that "Disney bullshit" of his
and makes me think he wants attention or smoked too much grass or other stuff - or both.

No wonder comments are disabled.
(which doesn' make sense if the previous should be true :unsure: )
...whatever...

It's one thing to be sure and know - it's quite another to mess it all up by trying to prove that point with shit.

Counterproductive to say the least.

There ARE real clues and visible proof.

Right here in this forum.

But not in these clips.
Not even halfway clear, that is.

Disclaimer: to me, that is

ps: I knew that proof of a zero gravity device with the butter-toast strapped to the back of a cat ;)
conclusive indeed, and very funny - hard to refute ;)
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:38 pm

:P
fair comment, you're right some of its 'speculative', & not 'concrete' fakery evidence, but he gives it a good go.
some of it though looks pretty nailed down to me, most of the links do show 'official' 'anomalies'...

i hadnt seen that particular 'ISS' 'zero-G' one before, i'd say most of its pretty good...
no-one can say for sure whether 'zero-G' has or can be 'simulated' on earth; but i like his attempt to explain
how 'zero-G' could be faked. i would guess more along the lines of between giant sheet magnets, personally...
the 'walt disney bullshit' is grating, but it evolved as a direct reference to the countless times the NA$A
ground-crew & spacemen actually do reference disney. the NA$A 'jokers' are actually quoted - verbatim -
many many times.

Yes this forum specialises in the deconstruction & breakdown of fake imagery. everything else is way more
speculative - subjective/objective. still, its great theres people like archangel4myke doin' their thing...
the great thing about image-fakery is that it is 110% verifiable, when its official source links still stand,
or even failing that; if the 'photo'/'video' 'imagery' has been saved by different people, then each can
compare for any 'extra-added photoshopping' some joker may try on...
proven image-fakery stands on its own merit, it doesnt rely on any 'witness' testimony or 'official' account...

words are just words, documents easily fabricated - hard to 'disprove'... like you said about 'Exif-data',
can be retroactively altered and 'date-stamped', even if sometimes its not. Still, 'proof' is hard to find, but
staged/fabricated/manipulated/generated... dont matter...
fake imagery is fake imagery... period.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby Jonathan on Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:07 pm

reel.deal wrote:...
no-one can say for sure whether 'zero-G' has or can be 'simulated' on earth; but i like his attempt to explain
how 'zero-G' could be faked. ...


That is what turned me off.
Not that personal accounts are worth too much here - and rightly so - but I have mentioned earlier that I jumped out of planes and helicopters for fun, I was a skydiver :)
And I came pretty close to weightlessness many times - and also got to experience the effects.
I am pretty sure, therefore, that is has nothing to do with magnets.
It's all about acceleration and resistance (gravity and the resistance the air provides, which is more pronounced/noticable the faster you go)


however: those videos ... just hurt watching (me...)
many things are claimed to be visible when nothing really is.

As I said, there are good examples of fakery.
Here, for instance.

And it may all be fake.
But: it just does not show everywhere clearly.

If it does not but someone says it does - and noone except people who already know can verify - it just makes other, more credible/more easily verifyable examples less likely to be even considered.

Not that thats important - its up to them in any case to want to see.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby Jonathan on Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:39 pm

on the fast spinning device again, whithin which all this is supposedly taking place:

If this device was on earth, or anywhere else for that matter, anything inside that subsystem would be pretty much nailed to the outest of the outer edges of that thing - or inevitably tend to go there.

...

Not hard to disprove, for the EXIF data!
It is just no proof at all.

They are just like a text written to the image file describing it.
You can add to or change or delete from that text - even all of it.
Nothing will affect the actual data which makes up the image file.
You can add EXIF to a file which never had such data, too.
It's just metadata - it can describe the image.
But it can just as well be tampered with in any way imaginable.
Without a trace.
It's all digital...

The image as it appears and our reality and our comparison with it is all we have in the end.

Common sense (?) or belief - whatever... determines what we are able to see.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Unread postby pov603 on Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:58 pm

This just popped into my head [and i haven't even had my drink yet, which reminds me...].
Anyway, I have no idea how feasible this would be but regarding an 'anti-grav' device/environment for D-ASA to do their filming in, would it be possible to have an internal drum [housing the 'ISS'] rotating at high speed, let's say clockwise, whilst housed within an outer shell rotating at high speed going anti-clockwise?
Would this avoid any coriolis effects, or inertia, or centrifugal forces?
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