ENDEAVOUR - the 30-year Space Shuttle hoax

[Brutal Metal]

Fake Launch! Skies have been black here all week with heavy rain! DAMM I'm a WiseASS!!

[simonshack]

Fake Launch! Skies have been black here all week with heavy rain! DAMM I'm a WiseASS!!

Brutal Metal! Nice to hear you again. Hmm...black with heavy rain?...seriously?? How far are you from KSC?

No umbrellas here...


STOP!
(Pictures of the last Shuttle launch STS135 posted yesterday on the International Business Times)
http://m.ibtimes.com/latest-pictures-sp ... 77004.html

[simonshack]

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Seriously hilarious article !

Space Shuttle Discovery has Last “Fake Mission”; NASA Ready to Try “Real Thing”
http://hahajk.com/newz/u-s-news/space-s ... ent-160602

[bostonterrierowner]

Simon and All dear forum-members,

What do you think? I mean , does anything of merit come from NASA? They have to stage all this launches and other crap to justify all this $$$$ pissed away , but are they responsible for any legit and really scientific research? I am very interested in your opinions.

[simonshack]

Simon and All dear forum-members,

What do you think? I mean , does anything of merit come from NASA? They have to stage all this launches and other crap to justify all this $$$$ pissed away , but are they responsible for any legit and really scientific research? I am very interested in your opinions.

Dear BTO,

I think you know my opinion about this, by now. I am just as interested as you to know the opinions of other members of this forum - or from anyone in general, in fact!

Let us wait and see. Perhaps people HAVE opinions, after all!

Having said that - and to switch into 'serious mode' - I suspect that the American population has been so profoundly psy-opped by the NASA comedy that it pales in comparison to the 9/11 comedy. Since the NASA psy-op is only about BIG BUCKS (not about killing innocent people in the Middle East), it is even HARDER for the average American (who justly cares about their military killing innocent people) to accept that they have been roundly duped by their "Santa Claus Space Conquerors".

I mean, do you remember how angry you were when you found out that Santa (who brought you all those Christmas presents) was a hoax - and nothing but a fantasy sold to you by the adults?

[Dcopymope]

Simon and All dear forum-members,

What do you think? I mean , does anything of merit come from NASA? They have to stage all this launches and other crap to justify all this $$$$ pissed away , but are they responsible for any legit and really scientific research? I am very interested in your opinions.

As I and others have said before, NASA is not the real space program, it is a front organization. All of the billions of bucks seemingly being wasted on NASA’s projects that never go anywhere is actually funneled into black projects, the real space program where the real space ships are developed. The fact that NASA was using this same space shuttle for the last forty odd years with no upgrades that's actually worth mentioning, if any, should have been enough for everyone to find NASA as suspect. Terence.drew thinks they may stage an alien attack on the shuttle Monday or at some other point in the mission. This would serve as the perfect excuse to end all manned space missions of any kind, no other nation would ever try it as a result, ensuring that the Anglo-American Establishment will still have superiority in space. This is the only motive that I could think of for staging such a thing, other than ushering in the alien threat, because control of space is paramount to the new world order agenda.

[simonshack]

As I and others have said before, NASA is not the real space program, it is a front organization. All of the billions of bucks seemingly being wasted on NASA’s projects that never go anywhere is actually funneled into black projects, the real space program where the real space ships are developed.

Yes - well said, Dcopy.

That's what this thread is all about, in fact!

Well - I don't know about the 'real space ships' you mention. I don't think they have any real spaceships at all. We have underestimated the deception skills of the clowns running this planet. There is no reason now to overestimate their technical/scientific skills.

For Heaven's sake: these NASA clowns managed to fool the world into believing they went 6 times to the moon - between 1969 and 1972! Then, in 1977, they tested their first "Enterprise" Space Shuttle, purportedly dropped (without engines/or any propulsion) from a Boeing 747 to see if the 'Flying Brick' could gently glide down and land on a runway. It's all very stupid.
Enterprise Test - 1977
First of all: How does it rise as it detaches from the 747 - the way we see it here? How does it maintain its speed, once it is unhooked from the 747? Now, imagine that you have a load of crap loaded onto your car. You are speeding on the highway and suddenly your crap gets torn off by aerodynamic forces and flies onto the poor cars behind you. ( I actually experienced this myself as I once carried two wooden doors upon my car - firmly strapped to my roof rack - but suddenly my entire roof rack just detached from my car roof! I was lucky though : no one got killed !).



Can you fathom/imagine the aerodynamic forces at play here? If a given object detaches from your roof-rack as you are speeding at 100mph down the motorway, it doesn't matter if this object has wings. It will not maintain the same speed as your car. Even if this object is a kite, it will first be pulled backwards and gradually slow down to its nominal, inertial speed. Instead, the images of the first Enterprise Shuttle show it detaching from its 747 carrier, gently rising up - and all the while maintaining the same speed as the 747 itself!

[Dcopymope]

As I and others have said before, NASA is not the real space program, it is a front organization. All of the billions of bucks seemingly being wasted on NASA’s projects that never go anywhere is actually funneled into black projects, the real space program where the real space ships are developed.

Yes - well said, Dcopy.

That's what this thread is all about, in fact!

Well - I don't know about the 'real space ships' you mention. I don't think they have any real spaceships at all. We have underestimated the deception skills of the clowns running this planet. There is no reason now to overestimate their technical/scientific skills.

For Heaven's sake: these NASA clowns managed to fool the world into believing they went 6 times to the moon - between 1969 and 1972! Then, in 1977, they tested their first "Enterprise" Space Shuttle, purportedly dropped (without engines/or any propulsion) from a Boeing 747 to see if the 'Flying Brick' could gently glide down and land on a runway. It's all very stupid.

Yes, well, that's NASA for you, but as I said before, this doesn’t account for the Rand Corporation releasing documents long before NASA was founded discussing the creation of a spaceship that can circle the globe in an hour going at about 17,000MPH or more, not an aircraft, but a spaceship. This was 65 years ago, a year before the supposed Roswell crash and before the UFO phenomenon really picked up speed. If anything, they get us paying attention to organizations like NASA and all the crap they sell us to underestimate their capabilities, in reality, they are more advanced than they want us to know. It was reported years ago and again recently that the F117 stealth fighter along with the U-2 Spy plane among others was actually flying on secret missions long before it was rolled out to the public in 1988 as if it was new. This is like the trick that you play on your opponent in card games like UNO, where you show your opponent your weakest cards to lead them by the nose.

Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spaceship

[bostonterrierowner]

Asking my question about any merit coming from NASA I was really inquiring about pictures . Can we at least trust images of space coming from there? . I can use soviet science as a comparison Everybody knew that anything coming from there regarding history or Lenin biography was a joke but mathematics was at least worth looking into

To be precise : I am not asking about Earth pictures coming from "moon" or "ISS"

[Brutal Metal]

Simon and All dear forum-members,

What do you think? I mean , does anything of merit come from NASA? They have to stage all this launches and other crap to justify all this $$$$ pissed away , but are they responsible for any legit and really scientific research? I am very interested in your opinions.

I think No let me re-phrase that I KNOW a manned air vehicle has launched from that pad in the past ( I wasn't there for this final one!) Where it goes after it leaves the field of view? Who the hell knows but I will agree on doubts about astronaut stations and these missions into Deep Space. Thanks for the hello welcome Simon, I had to leave for awhile to cool off
I'm on the west coast so about 2.5 hours away by car, like I mentioned central Fla was dark gloomy for a few days straight but the shots you attached look fine to me, that's what the skies look like down here..

[simonshack]

(...) that's what the skies look like down here..

The Florida skies are nice... you also get some pretty funky wind patterns down there !

(btw, is this guy trying to snap a pic of his girlfriend in front of the Shuttle's smoke plume?... He's in for a disappointment!)

[Dcopymope]

Asking my question about any merit coming from NASA I was really inquiring about pictures . Can we at least trust images of space coming from there? . I can use soviet science as a comparison Everybody knew that anything coming from there regarding history or Lenin biography was a joke but mathematics was at least worth looking into

To be precise : I am not asking about Earth pictures coming from "moon" or "ISS"

First of all, what makes you think they would want us to see what space really looks like? If they faked the Moon landing, then why should we trust NASA on ANYTHING else they want us to believe is real?

[bostonterrierowner]

Asking my question about any merit coming from NASA I was really inquiring about pictures . Can we at least trust images of space coming from there? . I can use soviet science as a comparison Everybody knew that anything coming from there regarding history or Lenin biography was a joke but mathematics was at least worth looking into

To be precise : I am not asking about Earth pictures coming from "moon" or "ISS"

First of all, what makes you think they would want us to see what space really looks like? If they faked the Moon landing, then why should we trust NASA on ANYTHING else they want us to believe is real?

It was just innocent , neutral question. Its a bit like with Google or Wkipedia. Do you trust google maps or population data concerning cities on Wikipedia? I just wanted to know if the planets are really planets or comets are really comets and stuff like this. Maybe some "neutral" data coming from NASA is legit? Do I live in aTruman Show ? Maybe the moon is just the hologram projection ? Do you know what I mean?

[simonshack]

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Dear all,

I hate to sound - uh - narrow-minded, but thanks to everyone for sticking to the already vast topic of this thread (NASA's Wondrous Spacecrafts).

The Space Shuttle program has, I dare say, been fairly thoroughly questioned and many doubts about its reality have emerged.
It naturally follows that the reality of the I$$ must be similarly questioned and scrutinized. Let's just concentrate on this here - and keep this thread on track.

Thanks!

[simonshack]

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