The Rise & fall of ISIS

Discussing the most relevant "sequels" or "reminders" of 9/11. The so-called "War On Terror" is a global scam finalized to manipulate this world's population with crass fear-mongering tactics designed to scare you shitless.

Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby bostonterrierowner on Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:33 pm

Why don't the warmongers in DC and London just say "we need to exploit you no matter what plus no deals with China without our consent" and just invade instead of making such a stupid shit up ? :)

My question to them is: "If the ISIS "terrorists" are such a bad ass threat why don't you send some tanks to Saddat so he can fuck them up right away? "

I wonder why don't the "western" MSM consumers ask themselves this brutally simple question ? :)

p.s.

Where do you see Ukraine mess going ? Maydan in Moscow in the spring and some real stuff to worry about ?
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Selene on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:15 pm

Today "IS" released a video showing how they burned a Jordanian pilot "alive":

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/f ... al-kasabeh

Disclaimer: of all the Mass Media I consider The Guardian the least spoiled by political interests, if there are other sources, please.

The video gets removed from the internet all the time, but I guess the Cluesforum members have seen it. I do not feel the need to watch it, but am of course interested in the fakery.

Any comments already? Any views on what and how it could have been faked (if so?!)?
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Maat on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:03 pm

Selene wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/03/isis-video-jordanian-hostage-burdning-death-muadh-al-kasabeh

Disclaimer: of all the Mass Media I consider The Guardian the least spoiled by political interests, if there are other sources, please.

Selene, are you serious? :blink: There is NO Main Stream Media that is not part of the global nutwork! <_<

I haven't seen the "purported" video either, and the Media is playing it coy with their ruse of "purportedly" investigating the "authenticity" of this latest bullshit of theirs as well :rolleyes:

"ISIS video purports to show Jordanian pilot burned alive"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-hostage-jordanian-pilot-muath-al-kaseasbeh-purportedly-burned-alive-in-video/

"New ISIS video purportedly shows Jordanian pilot being burned alive"
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/03/new-isis-video-purpotedly-shows-jordanian-pilot-being-burned-alive/

"Burned Alive: ISIS Video Purports to Show Murder of Jordanian Pilot"
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/burned-alive-isis-video-purports-show-murder-jordanian-pilot-n299361

"ISIS claims to have burned Jordanian hostage alive"
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/03/sot-isis-jordan-pilot-burned-alive.cnn

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938199/Burned-alive-cage-ISIS-release-video-claiming-horrifying-murder-captured-Jordanian-pilot.html

Oh, but The Guardian doesn't even bother with that pretense: "Isis video shows Jordanian hostage being burned to death"
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Selene on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:29 pm

Maat wrote:
Selene wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/03/isis-video-jordanian-hostage-burdning-death-muadh-al-kasabeh

Disclaimer: of all the Mass Media I consider The Guardian the least spoiled by political interests, if there are other sources, please.

Selene, are you serious? :blink: There is NO Main Stream Media that is not part of the global nutwork! <_<


I agree, that's why I put the disclaimer in. So to say that from all the "bad food", I find The Guardian the least disgusting to swallow. ;)

I haven't seen the "purported" video either, and the Media is playing it coy with their ruse of "purportedly" investigating the "authenticity" of this latest bullshit of theirs as well :rolleyes:

"ISIS video purports to show Jordanian pilot burned alive"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-hostage-jordanian-pilot-muath-al-kaseasbeh-purportedly-burned-alive-in-video/

"New ISIS video purportedly shows Jordanian pilot being burned alive"
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/03/new-isis-video-purpotedly-shows-jordanian-pilot-being-burned-alive/

"Burned Alive: ISIS Video Purports to Show Murder of Jordanian Pilot"
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/burned-alive-isis-video-purports-show-murder-jordanian-pilot-n299361

"ISIS claims to have burned Jordanian hostage alive"
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/03/sot-isis-jordan-pilot-burned-alive.cnn

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938199/Burned-alive-cage-ISIS-release-video-claiming-horrifying-murder-captured-Jordanian-pilot.html

Oh, but The Guardian doesn't even bother with that pretense: "Isis video shows Jordanian hostage being burned to death"


Thanks for the links.

By the way, the video can be watched here: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6638265 ... asbeh.html

I will give it a try (my first IS video I will see, the fakery of James Foley's "parents" and the ridiculously amateuristic photo of the two Japanese guys were enough to conclude the fakery involved).
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Selene on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:48 pm

I did watch it and are all IS-"videos" like this? Very slick editing, zoom-ins, zoom-outs, flashing images, slow motion, etc.

This does not look in any way real. I get more the feeling I am watching a slick advertisement commercial than the horrifying deed it tells us to be.

And millions and millions fall for this? *ouch*
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Maat on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:52 pm

Selene wrote:I agree, that's why I put the disclaimer in. So to say that from all the "bad food", I find The Guardian the least disgusting to swallow. ;)
Ok, but I would never "swallow" any of them! That link is a dead end now, did you download it?

ISIS-PsyOp-burning-story.jpgISIS-PsyOp-burning-story2.jpgISIS-PsyOp-burning-story3.jpghttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pilot.html
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Selene on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:04 pm

Maat wrote:
Selene wrote:I agree, that's why I put the disclaimer in. So to say that from all the "bad food", I find The Guardian the least disgusting to swallow. ;)
Ok, but I would never "swallow" any of them! That link is a dead end now, did you download it?

ISIS-PsyOp-burning-story.jpgISIS-PsyOp-burning-story2.jpgISIS-PsyOp-burning-story3.jpghttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pilot.html


Here the link is still working? No, I don't have video download software.

Yeah, "swallow" was not really the right term in English, it's my 3rd language, sorry. I am not swallowing MSM, I even don't have a TV connection for years now.

Thanks for the images, they show the ridiculous fakery, it just feels like some advertisement or so.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Maat on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:16 pm

Selene wrote:
Maat wrote:
Selene wrote:I agree, that's why I put the disclaimer in. So to say that from all the "bad food", I find The Guardian the least disgusting to swallow. ;)
Ok, but I would never "swallow" any of them! That link is a dead end now, did you download it?


Here the link is still working? No, I don't have video download software.

Yeah, "swallow" was not really the right term in English, it's my 3rd language, sorry. I am not swallowing MSM, I even don't have a TV connection for years now.

Thanks for the images, they show the ridiculous fakery, it just feels like some advertisement or so.

Understood, thanks for clarifying. I couldn't find it on that Dutch site, but here it is on another: http://shoebat.com/2015/02/03/watch-horrific-video-isis-burning-pow-jordanian-pilot/ — (2nd on page is full version with "execution" starting at 16:18)

Selene wrote:I did watch it and are all IS-"videos" like this? Very slick editing, zoom-ins, zoom-outs, flashing images, slow motion, etc.

This does not look in any way real. I get more the feeling I am watching a slick advertisement commercial than the horrifying deed it tells us to be.

And millions and millions fall for this? *ouch*

Yes, you're right — it has too many edit cuts to convince me it's anything but a slick piece of movie making. :angry: (I counted about 17 edits in the 1st short version)

How many "cameras" were set up for this — even one behind, where a brick wall is supposed to be? Bad acting, direction & ridiculous sound effects Image

Front:
ISIS-PsyOp-burning-vid-camera-1.jpgBehind (from brick wall):
ISIS-PsyOp-burning-vid-camera-2.jpg Above:
ISIS-PsyOp-burning-vid-camera-3.jpgBrick wall:
ISIS-PsyOp-jordanianpilot_burnedalive1.jpg
ISIS-PsyOp-jordanianpilot_burnedalive2.jpg

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For those who haven’t seen Nicholas Cage "on fire" in the movie Ghost Rider (2007), watch these clips of the FX:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zQ8KpzLPL8


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_OWGYNpb0w [with a sequel, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012)]


Here's a stuntman “burned at the stake” with real fire for a TV series:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJWa6Lr97t4
Uploaded on Jul 2, 2007
During filming of a television series I was in, a stuntman was used to film a scene of a priest being burned at the stake. The other camera you see in the frame is the stuntman's camera that I was also using to film for him.
The stuntman thought he would be able to last for about 10 seconds with the flames around him but as you will see he lasted a lot longer. Because he needed to have his face protected completely he was jumping off the top of the burning logs absolutely blind. It was an amazing experience and didn't look anywhere as good as this when it was actually screened on the TV.
http://www.dirksmith.co.uk
http://www.dmtc.co.uk

Dirk Smith 2 years ago in reply to ClaudiParkour:
The stuntman was wearing a prosthetic mask over his fire protection in the image of the real actor who was playing the role of the priest. The stuntman couldn't see anything when he jumps. We had a few rehearsals without the fire so he had a rough idea of where he needed to land. It was amazing to be there.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Maat on Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:14 pm

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Jordan's King Abdullah II is a Trekkie!

ISIS-PsyOp-burning-King-Abdullah.jpg“King Abdullah addresses his nation”http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/f ... al-kasabeh

AbdullahII-Jordan-StarTrek-1995.jpg http://www.startrek.com/database_article/abdullah-ii
Musicians, scientists and athletes aren’t the only Star Trek celebrity fans who have appeared onscreen. King Abdullah II of Jordan was still the crown prince when he appeared as an unnamed, uncredited sciences ensign barely glimpsed in a U.S.S.Voyager corridor in Season 2’s “Investigations” in 1996. After his father King Hussein died in 1999 and he ascended the throne at age 37, Abdullah was no longer able to indulge his fandom so directly. He was, however, instrumental in the inclusion of a Star Trek area within the large Red Sea Astrarium tourist theme park resort announced for his country in 2011, due for completion within three years with Abdullah as chief local investor.


King Abdullah II of Jordan in 1996 Star Trek - Voyager, Episode 35:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmut6FJ1d4M
(Played by King Abdullah II, Jordan)
An ensign of the sciences division is talking with fellow ensign Harry Kim in a corridor when Neelix pulls the young bridge ops officer away, breaking up the conversation.
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/sciences-king
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby simonshack on Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:07 am

Maat wrote:*
Jordan's King Abdullah II is a Trekkie!
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:lol: Hilarious, Maat! Now, get this : today I learned from Italian newpaper La Repubblica that King Abdullah is getting ready to take on the ISS - uh - the ISIS "enterprise" - personally ! :lol: Here's the story in English - courtesy of a comical right-wing news website (which lashes at Obama for being a wimp... :rolleyes: )

"Hard Core: Jordan’s King Abdullah is in Combat Gear and Ready to Fight ISIS "

"Now comes word that Jordan’s King Abdullah is heading for the front lines. Hard. Core."

Image

http://rightwingnews.com/terrorism/hard ... is-photos/
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:47 am

Easy to look "hard core" when you are facing a fictional enemy.

Interesting story: a politician may be "initiated" into the system by being a fan of something that merely celebrates its bogus science?
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby Maat on Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:17 am

simonshack wrote:
Maat wrote:*
Jordan's King Abdullah II is a Trekkie!
Image


:lol: Hilarious, Maat! Now, get this : today I learned from Italian newpaper La Repubblica that King Abdullah is getting ready to take on the ISS - uh - the ISIS "enterprise" - personally ! :lol: Here's the story in English - courtesy of a comical right-wing news website (which lashes at Obama for being a wimp... :rolleyes: )

"Hard Core: Jordan’s King Abdullah is in Combat Gear and Ready to Fight ISIS "

"Now comes word that Jordan’s King Abdullah is heading for the front lines. Hard. Core."

Image

http://rightwingnews.com/terrorism/hard ... is-photos/

Oh shit that’s priceless, Simon! :lol:

“Yesterday, Jordan executed ISIS operatives and walked the talk of counterterrorism…while President Obama posed for photos.” — oh right, while “His Majesty” posed for his in combat gear trying to look bad-ass (in need of a girdle) & ready to fight cartoons? Image

Hmm, interesting pop-up appears on clicking the first link in that "rightwingnews" article:

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Be afraid, on all fronts! Image Sheesh Image


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More hilarity, Abdullah playing “warrior king” :rolleyes: : “11 photos showing King Abdullah II of Jordan being a total badass”

+ http://www.businessinsider.com/jordans-message-on-missiles-used-in-isis-airstrikes-2015-2
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby brianv on Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:18 pm

So the "king" of Jordan is an Actor? Does he have an Equity Card?

I am more than certain that all the clowns with "crowns" are actors .

It's funny, when "Paris" was happening, I was thinking about the clown-heir to the toiletseat of England, that Charlie fool. Can't wait for that one.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby DeeJay on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:34 pm

[quote]"Hard Core: Jordan’s King Abdullah is in Combat Gear and Ready to Fight ISIS "

"Now comes word that Jordan’s King Abdullah is heading for the front lines. Hard. Core."

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I read the other day somewhere that this picture was taken about 6 months ago. I'm trying to find the source.

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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:52 pm

Might be moot if, like most leader pictures, it wasn't taken so much as constructed.
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