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Realism911 4 Jun 17 2010, 02:18 PM wrote: Do you believe in real victims on 7/7 Tim?
Good question!
Do you mind if i procrastinate in answering, and just say that I now believe in real faux-tographers?

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This German 7/7 footage features Enourmous Plastic Mats prominently.
Much of the footage appears to be from 7 July itself
(apart from flashforwards to a bereaved, fundraising sister in 2010).

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPQ3b_1V7A

Are there any Deutsch-speakers on Reality Shack who can offer insights into this report?
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Well, Tim

I'll try to make it out tomorrow (if I really concentrate I can catch some German...)


Meanwhile, exactly how many foundations/memorials has Miriam got ?
I knew about that Indian "Eye-Care" thing, but I Just found this NEW one:

THE MIRIAM HYMAN MEMORIAL TRUST
http://miriam-hyman.com/miriam.html


And why is it that they keep photoshopping the few available pictures of Miriam? Does a nice girl like that leave only a couple of pictures around when she dies?

This is the picture from her MEMORIAL TRUST WEBSITE >>>> Image<
---------------------------The picture below is from the video Timothy just posted above------------------------------
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Blatantly cut-out and pasted over new backdrop:
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simonshack 4 Jul 12 2010, 01:17 AM wrote: I'll try to make it out tomorrow (if I really concentrate I can catch some German...)


Blatantly cut-out and pasted over new backdrop:
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Danker shern simon!

thanks for pointing all that out about Miriam Hyman's portraits / pictures.

Esther Hyman (the sister) actually contacted me on youtube so I asked her for an explanation as to why her sister's pictures look fake.

Her response was along the lines of:
"Even if they are fake, why would you want to make a video about it and put it on the internet?"

...Not especially strong words.

simonshack:


Meanwhile, exactly how many foundations/memorials has Miriam got ?
I knew about that Indian "Eye-Care" thing, but I Just found this NEW one:

THE MIRIAM HYMAN MEMORIAL TRUST
http://miriam-hyman.com/miriam.html

Re: Her charities.
Well, as you've seen, the Memorial Trust is very busy.
Raising money for the Miriam Hyman children's eye care centre in India.
They have also ran an annual series of Miriam Hyman memorial discussions featuring very well-known pundits and broadcasters such as Rabbi Julia Neuberger (on radio alot), Sue Macgregor (BBC radio presenter) and Shami Chakrabarti (director of civil rights group Liberty).

http://www.london.anglican.org/EventShow_9709
http://www.miriam-hyman.com/Announcemen ... x?ID=21026

For all the work, her sister Esther actually won a "Woman of the Year award"
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finally...
(though i doubt it's really finally)

They say Miriam used to volunteer for the charity Myloma UK, so that charity set up a special research grant in her name:
http://www.myeloma.org.uk/Page.aspx?pid=932


The Miriam Hyman Research Grant
This grant was funded by many people who have given donations and raised money from events around the country. This grant is given in memory of Miriam Hyman, a Myeloma UK volunteer and fundraiser who so tragically lost her life in the July 7 London bombings in 2005.

Title of research study:

Assessing the supportive care needs and quality of life in myeloma patients and their partners

Study Lead: Prof. Alexander Molassiotis University of Manchester

So there you go.

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One other thing - I'm not sure if this is a very tasteful connection to observe or emphasize on this website, admins help me out!....

I was interested in Alice Greenwald on the 9/11 memorials thread - the woman who was in charge of the 9/11 memorial in New York and also worked at the Washington Holocaust Museum.

Well Miriam Hyman's friend Judith Vandervelde - a host at some of the memorial lectures, and responsible for this picture...

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http://www.miriam-hyman.com/assets/broc ... MHCECC.pdf

... works as a Holocaust Education Officer at London's Jewish Museum.


July 10 2010 Times Educational Supplement

Judith Vandervelde, an educator at the Jewish Museum in London, agrees that there is an urgent need for effective methods of teaching about the Holocaust in schools.

“The understanding that pupils get through face-to-face interaction with Holocaust survivors is quite incredible,” she said. “But they’re not going to be here for ever.

“We have to look into how we’re going to continue to have that connection without survivors speaking to pupils. We need to look ahead a few years and make Holocaust education tangible and accessible.”

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6017262

Not sure what to make of that.

I don't have any particular interest in WW2 or Jewish History, but I am aware that the Holocaust sometimes appears subject to the same "Wall of Tears" devices that attack rational discussion of more recent events.
Some people specialise in this I suppose.
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Eye Care Center??

That sounds like a joke. We are lucky we can catch this stuff because we've got sharp eye-sight and attention to detail that makes the seams on this stuff pop out and make the fake reality look ugly and wrong.

People without such a strong visual attention to detail might be worse off ... and a fake individual helping people with their eye-sight might be construed in this case as a rather inhumane mockery of the handicapped. Not that I should be surprised at this point, but still ... occasionally it hits you just how sick and pitiful these people are. They must pick on obvious weaknesses to feel like strong boys?

Woops ... I guess we're doing the same to them ... picking on their underdeveloped ability for deception. My bad. Apologies if it turns out two wrongs don't make a right. :P
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Re: Her charities.
Well, as you've seen, the Memorial Trust is very busy.
Raising money for the Miriam Hyman children's eye care centre in India.


Motto: "So that all may see"

The Trustees of the Miriam Hyman Memorial Trust thought that their funds could best be used directly by service providers in a developing country, and money from the Miriam Hyman Memorial Fund, together with compensation received from the Mayor of London’s London Bombings Fund, was transferred to LVPEI.

http://www.lvpei.org/lvp-experience/don ... rings.html

So this particular Vicsim is connected to a Holocaut (no one can deny that it's is big business) museum, just like the 9/11 Memorial museum lady, and in a press release on the London Bombings fund we read..

These new payments will increase the total value of grants announced by the Fund to over ?1 million. Of this, the Fund has already paid 126 grants to victims to the value of ?460,000.

The main source of compensation for victims of the bombings will be the Government’s statutory Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme.
http://www.london.gov.uk/media/press_re ... e-payments

About the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme we read

Victims of the 7 July attacks have received ?11m in compensation so far, the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority (CICA) said.

Some of the payouts are understood to have been for the maximum ?500,000 payable under the criminal injuries compensation scheme.

So it's not as much money involved in the Vicsim operation here as it was in NYC.
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JOHN'S EARLY 7/7 "SCOOP"Image


ABC NEWS AUSTRALIA (July 8, 2005)
"Australian Prime Minister John Howard says he believes the death toll from
London's terrorist bombings has reached 52, with hundreds more injured."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 410112.htm

Why is it that Aussie's always seem to get the news before everyone else?
I guess dumb prime minister John Howard just forgot that they're 10 hours ahead of GMT ...:rolleyes:
See, I found an interesting minute-by-minute timeline of the aftermath of the London bombings.
It's in the archives of Italy's largest newspaper online edition.
http://www.repubblica.it/2005/g/dirette ... ref=search

Let me just translate three news dispatches (extracted from this timeline) for you :



TIMELINE OF EVENTS IN LONDON ON JULY 8 2005
(as reported by "La Repubblica"- largest Italian Newspaper)

8:09 AM - Australian prime minister says: "The victims are 52"
According to Australian prime minister John Howard, the death-toll(of yesterday's bombings) is 52, including 7 Australians. The figure provided by Howard clashes with that provided by the London police (37) but the prime minister has not disclosed to the press the sources of this information.

Howard's puzzling early knowledge becomes positively supernatural when we learn that the Russell Square bombing site had still not been reached by any first responders...

12:16PM - Russell Square subway carriage still not reached.
"We have still not been able to reach the carriage which exploded at Russell Square" - says the Metropolitan Police".

Considering that Russell Square was ultimately to be the (alleged) scene of the greatest carnage with 26 "victims", Howard's uttering is utterly...mystical. How did John know the total London Bombings death-toll before they even reached the largest 'crime scene' ? :huh: But there's more: About 90 minutes later still, Ian Blair goes on air with this statement:


13:42PM - None injured in the Russell Square carriage.
The police hasn't yet been able to reach the carriage trapped near the Russell Square tube station, but has outruled the possibility of there being any further injured people trapped in the underground. This has been clarified by the British Chief of Police Ian Blair: " With the help of the firefighters and the ambulance personnel - he said - all the survivors have been rescued and brought to safety".

Also reported on Der Spiegel Online: http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1 ... 53,00.html

+++ Number of Deaths climbs to 52 +++

(5:33 a.m. CET) According to statements made by the Australian government, the number of dead has risen to 52. Further deaths are feared, said Australia's Prime Minister, John Howard. In Great Britain, 37 deaths have so far been confirmed.


"LIST OF CASUALTIES AT EACH BOMBING SITE" : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/u ... s/victims/

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There's yet another massive problem for John Howard to have known the exact final death-toll figure of "52" at 8AM (GMT) in the morning of the following day. Sam Ly for instance, died only one week after the blast - ("the only Australian victim") ...[Huh? Were there not 7 Aussie-victims according to Howard?]

SAM LY died on 14 July,
seven days after the blast.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 741485.stm

Some Lie, indeed ... B)
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MARIE FATAYI-WILLIAMS
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The mommy of 7/7 vicsim Anthony Fatayi-Williams just happens to be a "Nigerian Power Wife". In fact, she's a senior oil executive with ELF petroleum in Lagos. She was a much familiar mourning media mama in the aftermath of 7/7...


MEET NIGERIA'S POWER WIVES
Marie Fatayi-Williams
Though not a Lagosian, Marie is a woman you just can not push aside in the Lagos Social Establishment. Aside from coming from an illustrious family (she hails from the Ikimi family in Igueben, Benin in Edo State), she is a highly cerebral woman who has been able to warm herself into the hearts of both the young and old, on account of her professional way of doing things. That this younger sister of ace politician, Chief Tom Ikimi is also brilliant is not in doubt. Or how else would you describe a woman who has been able to work her way up the corporate ladder in Elf Petroleum.
http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/m ... wives.html

Of course, she was very angry with the British government - just like the Jersey Girls on 9/11:


One of the hardest things for her to accept is the British government's refusal to grant a full public inquiry into the 7 July bombings.
"There must be a public inquiry. I lost my son. Others have lost loved ones".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5152180.stm
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I don't know much about the Jersey girls, but would it fit with the comparison if Marie Fatayi-Williams were to have a phony-looking foundation for her son?:

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http://www.afwfoundation.org/home.html

This screenshot from today gives up-to-the-minute information about 7/7's 2nd anniversary.

Also, "Terrorism News" such as "How to Lose Weight" :lol:

Apart from that it's full of links that don't work.

How she came to launch this world-changing foundation is apparently described in her book:

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Anthony-Mo ... 655&sr=8-1

From her growing fears for her missing son to her frustration with the official investigation and the bureaucratic delays she faced, her story is told with her uniquely vivid gift for language, with raw passion, and ultimately with the love of a mother. Her extraordinary strength and powers of organisation have led to the launch of the Anthony Fatayi-Williams Foundation to encourage multi-cultural debate, education and international peace.

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Thanks Simon for the John Howard info.

Someone today was asking me about vicsims, saying that surely a coroner would need to have bodily evidence before announcing the death of a victim.
(i.e. you can't have vicsims because you can't fool coroners)

I think the John Howard Gaff neatly illustrates the amount of fudging going on with victim numbers. It shows that the media / politicians may have somewhat bypassed less glamourous figures such as coroners in launching the story.
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timothymurphy 4 Jul 16 2010, 09:45 PM wrote:
I think the John Howard Gaff neatly illustrates the amount of fudging going on with victim numbers. It shows that the media / politicians may have somewhat bypassed less glamourous figures such as coroners in launching the story.
Thanks Timothy for acknowledging the significance of the John Howard gaffe.

Let's hope it will be clear to all what this means:

IF JOHN HOWARD KNEW THAT 52 PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO DIE IN THE LONDON BOMBINGS BEFORE THEY HAD REPORTEDLY BEEN ABLE TO COUNT THE VICTIMS, THIS MEANS THAT WE HAVE CONCLUSIVELY EXPOSED 7/7 FOR WHAT IT WAS: JUST ANOTHER PRE-PLANNED TERROR-SIMULATION.


And what the heck is this BBC report from July 9, 2005 ????
"There have been 49 confirmed fatalities and more than 20 people are missing."
49? On July 9 ????
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 667801.stm



We rest our case.

The whole "War on Terror" is a hoax. Most probably NO ONE DIES under the supposed "Al-Qaeda" terror attacks sold to the gullible Western public. None.
Not on 7/7 2005 in London, not on 9/11 2001 in New York, not on 3/11 2004 in Madrid, not on 11/27 2008 in Mumbai, Moscow 3/29 2010...etc
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BBC & THE GUARDIAN CONFIRM NUMBER OF DEAD REACHES 52 (on july 11)


BBC- Monday, July11 2005
"The first victim of the London bombings is named as the confirmed number of dead reaches 52."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4694069.stm

THE GUARDIAN- Monday, July11 2005
London death toll rises to 52
"The names of two women who died in last week's London bombings were made public today, as the confirmed death toll from the attacks rose to 52."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/1 ... ksecurity8


So, 4 days later, the BBC & The Guardian finally confirm John Howard's magic intuition/prediction of "52".
But there's yet another atrocious problem with that.
At least two victims (allegedly) succumbed to their injuries AFTER july 11:

SAM LY
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 741485.stm
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"When the computer worker was recovered with serious injuries from the wreckage
of the bus, his father and nephew flew to London to be at his hospital bedside.
But he died on 14 July, one week after the blast."



LEE HARRIS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 741565.stm
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"The 30-year-old was in a coma for eight days and died on 15 July, a day before
his girlfriend's body was pulled from the wreckage of the mangled train."

So, his girlfriend Samantha Badham was pulled from her train carriage on July16 - a full nine days after the blast???
What a load of hogwash. It is quite remarkable that anyone could believe such an asinine script.


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The Guardian article above is in fact a 'goldmine' of silliness. First, we are told that only 2 victims had been identified as of July 11. Two out of fifty-two. After 4 working days. Those British coroner's are slow daddies! Then we learn that:

"Over the last two days, around12 families have been visited at their homes to be told that, although formal identification has not been completed, it is clear that their relative has been killed."

A bit like saying: "Madam, we're not 100% sure we actually have your husband lying in the morgue, but you better get used to the fact that he's pretty much dead."

Then we have the sad story of the Jewish Taxi driver's wife, Mrs.Levy:
"In a statement, Mrs Levy's husband, Harry, a London taxi driver, said: "Susan was a devoted and much-loved wife and mother of two sons. We are all devastated by our loss. She was a valued and respected member of her extended Jewish family and will be deeply mourned and sadly missed by us and her many friends." (...)
"An inquest into his wife's death opened at St Pancras coroner's court, in London, at 10am and adjourned immediately. No family members were present."


Damn. I guess Harry just couldn't turn down that golden taxi ride bringing some Saudi oil sheiks to Heathrow... :P

Then we have the final figures of dead and wounded:
"Fifty-two people died and 700 people were injured in four explosions on Thursday"

Of course, some will say it is ME who is silly now for pointing out the 7/7 numerological "coincidence": 5+2=7 and 7+0+0=7. Silly me.
Then there is the curious story of Anthony Fatayi-Williams who, apparently, was not yet identified as one of the 13 victims on the London Bus - as of July 11:

"Marie Fatayi-Williams, mother of Anthony Fatayi-Williams, 26, said she had not heard from her son since Thursday (...) but it is feared he took the No 30 bus to work after stopping to help tube passengers caught up in the confusion. The bus bomb exploded at 9.47am."

"IT IS FEARED?" Are they saying they still had not identified - four days later - a man hit by shrapnels of a five-pound rucksack-bomb in this bus? :
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Gimme a break.
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But there's yet another atrocious problem with that.
At least two victims (allegedly) succumbed to their injuries AFTER july 11:

SAM LY
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 741485.stm
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"When the computer worker was recovered with serious injuries from the wreckage
of the bus, his father and nephew flew to London to be at his hospital bedside.
But he died on 14 July, one week after the blast."



LEE HARRIS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 741565.stm
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"The 30-year-old was in a coma for eight days and died on 15 July, a day before
his girlfriend's body was pulled from the wreckage of the mangled train."

So, his girlfriend Samantha Badham was pulled from her train carriage on July16 - a full nine days after the blast???
What a load of hogwash. It is quite remarkable that anyone could believe such an asinine script.



That's VERY curious.

So,

July 11 2005

Guardian: 52 dead
BBC: 52 dead
even though two of the victims were still alive, according to the BBC itself!

I wonder how the Ly and Harris families would feel if they knew their still-living relatives had been officially ear-marked for death, by the BBC?

(if such families existed)

[sorry for just repeating your post Simon, but I'm quite incredulous at what you've observed.]

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In the Australian article with the John Howard52 victims on July 8 gaffe, the article headline actually chose the number 50:

ABC July 8 2005
Fifty dead in London bombings: Howard
Australian Prime Minister John Howard says he believes the death toll from London's terrorist bombings has reached 52, with hundreds more injured.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 410112.htm

It is as if someone behind the scenes is trying to attenuate the effect of the gaffe and giving what should be the correct official figure.
(assuming there were not supposed to be more in comas etc. like Ly and Harris)
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SHAHARA ISLAM

4 pictures of "Shahara Islam". She allegedly died on the bus at Tavistock square. Age 20.

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timothymurphy 4 Jul 17 2010, 09:34 PM wrote:
ABC July 8 2005
Fifty dead in London bombings: Howard
Australian Prime Minister John Howard says he believes the death toll from London's terrorist bombings has reached 52, with hundreds more injured.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 410112.htm

It is as if someone behind the scenes is trying to attenuate the effect of the gaffe and giving what should be the correct official figure.(assuming there were not supposed to be more in comas etc. like Ly and Harris)
Well, Timothy,

the problem is that there was no hint in the British press of a 52 figure until July11 - when they finally released the final official death-toll of "confirmed 52 victims". Before that, Scotland Yard had stuck with the "37" figure.

But then the "Blair team" cocked up just as pathetically as the "Howard team":
In fact, as the British press finally released the "52" figure on July 11, two victims were apparently still alive in hospitals and reportedly died (according to the BBC 7/7 Obituaries) on July 14 and July15. Yet another victim was, allegedly, extracted from a train carriage only on July 16 (NINE days after the "terror attack"!).


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At the end of the day, the Occam's Razor proof of foul play remains John Howard's statement published on July 8 (at 8:09amGMT) that "52 people had died". Since the Russell Square train carriage was not (reportedly) reached by the rescuers until late that afternoon (at the earliest), there was simply no way that John Howard could have known any final death-toll figure. That is, UNLESS HE HAD BEEN HANDED THE SCRIPT OF THE 7/7 "PLAY" WELL IN ADVANCE.

WHILE STILL OPEN TO ANY CLARIFICATION TO JOHN HOWARDS STATEMENT OF "52" VICTIMS PRONOUNCED ON JULY 8, 2005, I HENCEFORTH DECLARE THE 7/7 LONDON BOMBINGS A BOTCHED FALSE-FLAG TERROR ATTACK DESIGNED TO LAY THE BLAME ON FOREIGN ENTITIES. HOWEVER SMALL AND INSIGNIFICANT I MAY BE, I HEREBY DEMAND CLARIFICATIONS FROM FORMER UK PRIME MINISTER TONY BLAIR.
(fancy getting an answer from Tony, heh ? :lol: )

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John Howard obviously wasn't as sharp with 7/7 as he was about 9/11, making sure that the Australian WW2 hero (pictured with him above) changed his flight from AA77 to one the following day.
http://smmlonline.com/articles/canberrabell.html

Never could understand why the above photo taken on Sept.10, 2001, has an incorrect date stamp.
Then, quite unscheduled the President and Prime Minister came down to meet and greet us, the President took Denise's camera, gave it to a three star US Marine General, ordering him to "Take a photograph of us."


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