The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by aa5 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:22 pm

I want to give an analogy to Russia which I think is very poignant to where we are. I think in the West we are at about 1980 in the Soviet Union. Democracy and Communism in my opinion are the two great enlightenment political ideologies.

Under monarchy/aristocracy and the Church, Russia had been on a meteoric rise from a minor player in Eastern Europe to a world leading nation on many fronts.

But in 1919 Russia went to Communism with the widespread support of the people of Russia. Something I realized is a traditionalist like me, who never believed in the enlightenment ideals, it could never be people like me who tore down the Soviet Union. Even if somehow we had succeeded, say in the civil war early on, it would not have broken the dream of the utopia in the minds of the people.

It could not be opponents of Communism, and it definitely could not be foreigners who broke Communism in Russia. It had to ironically be the Communists themselves, and breaking the belief in Communism among the people of Russia.

That is why it was so important that in December 1991 it was the Communist leaders themselves who signed and then announced to the people of Russia the legal dissolution of the Soviet Union. And by that point, probably as far back as the late 70's, the belief in the ideals had been broken in the minds of the people of Russia, including most of the state workers and their families.

So at that point were the Russian people ready to return to what had made Russia, the aristocracy and the Church - no they still weren't ready. But you see at that point the remnants of the KGB, the army and royalists and orthodox church could have launched a revolution and possibly won. Yet it wasn't the right time. The people wanted to try anarchism & democracy - which democracy is really a form of anarchism.

So this went on for 10 years of growing hell, until the people of Russia they gave up on those ideas. It was only at that point in 1999, hat in hand that the people of Russia approached the traditionalists and asked them if they would rule Russia. 'Wait to be summoned' Once you are summoned, then there is no compromises, it is the full implementation of the program.

We can't be the ones to tear down democracy and the enlightenment beliefs of the modern West. It has to be our governments, its employees and the people themselves who tear it down.

And certainly we are beginning to see that with the founding fathers of our country their statues being torn down, streets renamed, the statists themselves are re-writing their own history books. The whole moral foundation of their own state they are destroying. And I realized it is so important that is them who destroys it and not an opponent like me.

An example is how minority groups, for whom our leaders most claim that this state power is there to help, are revolting against the state itself. It traps the state leaders, because their mandate to govern comes from the will of the people and especially from making the world fair for people who were treated unfairly. That is why our state leaders are so powerless to stop this looting and burning. It is because it is coming from the very people they are using to justify their own power. Beyond just real-politik of it, our leaders are stupid enough that they view themselves as saviors of the downtrodden.

The next step beyond the statues coming down and the streets and buildings being renamed, is the state buildings will start to burn down. And to talk about colleges being renamed, imagine if as a traditionalist I ordered the name of a great democratic hero, a college named after him renamed. I would be the enemy period. But what if it is the democrat community who demands it be renamed. And our leaders are claiming to get their mandate to govern from the will of the people, especially those people they view as victims.

The leaders have no choice but to rename the college, which is what they are doing. But then by doing so they are erasing the foundations of their own power.

It is like with the police - a libertarian anti-statist wanting to limit police power - ya that is not going anywhere. But what if the community the police is supposed to protect demands the police funding to be cut. And is protesting when an innocent community member is killed by police. Politically how do you stop that. Well a dictator who doesn't claim to get his authority from the people just orders people shot. But what about an enlightenment leader who claims to represent the community. He has to weaken the police, but it is the very police which is the instrument of his power.


So where does this all end. Ultimately the thing that really matters is the payroll of the state. As long as tens of millions of people are on the payroll, and that pay is above what they would otherwise make in the marketplace, you can rely on their support and their families support. That is in my opinion the final power the Western democracies have.

But their growing statism, regulations, restrictions, lockdowns, and the already insanely vast state payroll they have the math is starting to not work. The tax base no longer supports the state payroll. So they are using the only thing they have left, just printing money. Yet the value of this $dollar depends on the world military empire they have at the end of the day. And we see that is starting to come down as well.

Western soldiers ran in terror when the Taliban surge came. Why - because they weren't willing to die for the modern ideals of the West. But once the great army runs in terror like that, it is a matter of time before it gets pushed out everywhere. Funding the army is also an issue. The army is but one of dozens of vast state agencies with millions of people on the payroll. Sure the state could hammer down other spending, and channel it to the military, but then what of the support from those other millions of people and their families.

Or the state could relax their tyranny and really open up the economy. But it is this ever growing statism that is the fundamental problem. And behind each new regulation and restriction there is politically powerful special interests who just keep pushing for more and more.

Where the dam breaks is when the state cannot make payroll or the printing is causing the currency to fall so quickly that the payroll effectively is going away.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by brianv » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm

Worst Virus since "christianity"...except that "christianity" actually killled people by the millions.

The first Roman Police State plague, was in 541 AD, it of course killed half of Europe, and ran for four years. Named the Justinian Plague after the Perp who survived "by a miracle". To those who haven't yet realised that the Roman Police State is all around - wake the fuck up!

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by antipodean » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:15 am

brianv wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm
Worst Virus since "christianity"...except that "christianity" actually killled people by the millions.

The first Roman Police State plague, was in 541 AD, it of course killed half of Europe, and ran for four years. Named the Justinian Plague after the Perp who survived "by a miracle". To those who haven't yet realised that the Roman Police State is all around - wake the fuck up!
Are you into the "All roads lead to Rome" Jesuit stuff ? I can understand coming from someone raised & living, in a Catholic State.

Edit: It looks as though Brian's line of thought is gaining traction.

i am going to capture the relevant bit of the audio
in short, NZ is now just operating under straight Roman Law. The executive assumes that you are under contract to them and have to do what they say. If you don't rebut this, then you have accepted their offer
https://discord.com/channels/8012023056 ... 2033043456

https://discord.com/channels/8012023056 ... 5284891668

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by aa5 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:01 pm

brianv wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm
Worst Virus since "christianity"...except that "christianity" actually killled people by the millions.

The first Roman Police State plague, was in 541 AD, it of course killed half of Europe, and ran for four years. Named the Justinian Plague after the Perp who survived "by a miracle". To those who haven't yet realised that the Roman Police State is all around - wake the fuck up!
I remember reading about the HIV-AIDS myth a few years back. And it occurred to me that all previous plagues were most likely make believe or at a minimum massively exaggerated.

If there was real plagues, what would have happened with the advent of international air travel and explorers going to the most remote places, is there would have been just mass death as they returned to the airports at the big cities, with some of those explorers being 'carriers' but not in outright sickness from the 'pathogens'. But there wasn't, as far as I can tell there was no increase in the death rates at all as international air travel got going and scaled up.

However people are dying all the time of one thing or another. And I can tell you as a person who has spent 15 years now reading the medical literature as a hobby, we only have the faintest understanding of how the body works. Medicine itself works on statistics.

For example Dapagliflozin(Farxiga) by Astra Zeneca was just approved to treat chronic kidney disease, and late last year it was approved to treat heart failure with reduced ejection fraction.

Dapagliflozin is an SGLT-2 inhibitor. It is thought to have a number of other actions within the body but even that no one really knows with any certainty what those are or what the impact of those off-target effects are. The drug was developed for type-2 diabetes, as in the kidneys sugar is either filtered out into the urine, or re-absorbed into the bloodstream. The SGLT-2 inhibitors block the re-absorption of the sugar, which the sugar then goes into the urine, so the effect is some % reduction of sugar in the bloodstream, which is know to be beneficial in type-2 diabetes. Which in the type-2 diabetes phase III trials involving thousands of people on the drug or on placebo, Dapagliflozin did show clear benefits in type-2 diabetes. These benefits are proven statistically.

The FDA wants to see a >15% statistical improvement in a hard endpoint, and the chances of that being random as <1/10,000, or a p value of <0.0001. Which Dapagliflozin did show. The strange thing was in the cardiovascular safety trials that followed, Dapagliflozin also showed powerful benefits in heart failure and chronic kidney disease. So Astra Zeneca then launched full phase III trials in those indications and Dapagliflozin did indeed prove a clinically significant benefit. Should be noted that from Astra's decision to launch those additional trials, until the trial readouts was 5-6 years.

Should also be noted for normal drug-candidates entering clinical trials, that 90% of drug-candidates do not make it through the gauntlet of the trials. Usually what happens is although they looked promising early on, they just don't beat placebo. The other failures are worse than placebo - which results in trials being stopped early, and the other big one is unacceptable side effects.

So now that we have successful phase III trials, and a bunch of basic science research done for Dapagliflozin do we know why Dapagliflozin shows benefits in heart failure and chronic kidney disease - no, there is some hypothesis but we still do not know why.

What is the point of my foray into Dapagliflozin. It is to show that we have no real clue how the body works. We are just using empiricism and statistics to prove that things benefit or not. And this is literally medicine in the year 2021, the gliflozin's are state of the art treatments. Now imagine 1,000 years ago how little understanding they had of the body.


But this supreme complexity, it is perfect for myth making and statistical manipulation. For hysterias and fakery.


Another interesting thing is in my talking to doctors. Doctors do not generally know about the proposed mechanisms of actions of the drugs. Doctors are looking at it empirically as well. The pharmaceutical corporations present the results of the clinical trials to the doctors. And with a lot of of pushing drugs get into the guidelines for diseases. Each specific disease has guidelines with algorithms of testing and starting with certain drugs, and then working down a tree depending on the results of the testing and how the patient responds to the drugs.

It is sort of funny but if you came in to me and I was pretending to be a doctor I could probably treat you near as well a doctor. Granted I would be a lot slower, but I would simply follow the guideline algorithms.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by brianv » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:21 pm

antipodean wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:15 am
brianv wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm
Worst Virus since "christianity"...except that "christianity" actually killled people by the millions.

The first Roman Police State plague, was in 541 AD, it of course killed half of Europe, and ran for four years. Named the Justinian Plague after the Perp who survived "by a miracle". To those who haven't yet realised that the Roman Police State is all around - wake the fuck up!
Are you into the "All roads lead to Rome" Jesuit stuff ? I can understand coming from someone raised & living, in a Catholic State.

Edit: It looks as though Brian's line of thought is gaining traction.

i am going to capture the relevant bit of the audio
in short, NZ is now just operating under straight Roman Law. The executive assumes that you are under contract to them and have to do what they say. If you don't rebut this, then you have accepted their offer
https://discord.com/channels/8012023056 ... 2033043456

https://discord.com/channels/8012023056 ... 5284891668
No Dean, certainly NOT the Jesuit stuff. Banking, Money, Power. Motives not "chimeras". But if you look at Christianity, it might be considered the Roman Police State for your Mind. Thou shalt not, thou shalt not...Confession, Guilt. You are born a criminal (with sin) and thus in need of vaccination by a priest. "This is my body". Zombie flesh eating communion daily and weekly ritual. See! Infected monkey brain tissue vaccines. No problem there.

I would hazard a guess that the Roman Police State, opposed by Roman Senators, was slippped in behind the Christianity Craze, Caesar's wife may have been the brains behind. If I read between the lines correctly.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:05 pm

The US Army's Joint Readiness Training Center at Fort Polk is requiring troops that have not been con-vid vaxxed to wear red paper wristbands. Vaxxed soldiers get to wear green wristbands (to match the green passports and the brave new green world).

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:20 pm

Contrary to claims in the MSM, the FDA has not granted full approval to Pfizer's experimental mRNA vaccine but only extended the existing Emergency Use Authorization. However, to delude the public, they have granted a Biologics License Application approval for a virtually identical mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer´s German partner BioNTech under the proprietary name Comirnaty. The thing is, Comirnaty is not yet available in the US. They haven´t even started manufacturing it or labeling it. With this sleight of hand, the FDA and the MSM are giving the perps in office a pretext to make Pfizer jabs mandatory everywhere.

A rare exception is Florida, where businesses can get fined to the tune of USD 5,000 if they demand proof of vaccination from customers.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:50 pm

aa5 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:01 pm
I remember reading about the HIV-AIDS myth a few years back. And it occurred to me that all previous plagues were most likely make believe or at a minimum massively exaggerated.
I think we should make a distinction between the pre- and post-newspaper era. The average joe´s perception of reality became "medialized" with the advent of newspaper journalism (basically in the early 1700s, and possibly in tandem with visceral changes in finances and banking) and was completely hijacked with the advent of radio and TV. I am in no manner saying pre-newspaper humanity was not indoctrinated or manipulated, but it was an entirely different dynamic and even perhaps for different reasons.

Take plagues, for instance. In the post-newspaper era, plagues can simply be (and are) fabricated to suit geopolitical and economic interests. Pre-newspaper plagues (like the famous "Black Death" of the mid-14th century) can be fabricated retrospectively by caricaturizing history and replacing hard facts with school book wisdom. But throughout history independent learned individuals around the world -- writing in Arabic, Romansh, Chinese, Sanskrit or whatever -- have described (and sometimes painted) what was happening around them, and that includes some instances of plague-like outbreaks.

The lack of clarity about the mechanism by which plagues spread does not mean no plague has ever been real, just like the lack of clarity about the mechanism by which many common drugs act does not mean they don´t relieve symptoms, just like the lack of clarity about the real nature of matter does not prevent chemical operations from being efficacious and predictable, just like the lack of clarity about what holds the celestial bodies together and makes them move across the firmament does not make Halley´s Comet any less punctual.
aa5 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:01 pm
Medicine itself works on statistics.
True. I guess I would say that medicine (especially pharmacologized medicine) is sanctioned (or sanctified) by statistics and, as Darrell Huff shows in his book from 1954, statistics is a very effective way of lying. But before statistics, medicine is (still) diagnostic intuition, understanding of physiology and a practice or art, as when a surgeon is fixing a broken leg.

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aa5, you used to be more careful with your writing. I am only saying this because I know you can do a pristine job.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:49 pm

Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation, among others, here is a 99-page guidance document for countries and implementing partners on the technical requirements for developing digital information systems for issuing standards-based interoperable digital certificates for COVID-19 vaccination status, and considerations for implementation of such systems, for the purposes of continuity of care, and proof of vaccination. Released 27 August 2021.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item ... ion-2021.1

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They seem pretty sure they will get their way with this.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:04 pm

Regarding the cover of the WHO document (reproduced above), it´s interesting how masks, injection needles and cell phones are permanent components of the new morona world. And one must suppose the spider in the middle of the web represents the Nutwork.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Nefilimp » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:18 am

Today on CNN;

Biden announces new vaccine mandates that could cover 100 million Americans

President Joe Biden on Thursday imposed stringent new vaccine rules on federal workers, large employers and health care staff in a sweeping attempt to contain the latest surge of Covid-19.

The new requirements could apply to as many as 100 million Americans -- close to two-thirds of the American workforce -- and amount to Biden's strongest push yet to require vaccines for much of the country.
"We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us," Biden said, his tone hardening toward Americans who still refuse to receive a vaccine despite ample evidence of their safety and full approval of one -- the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine -- from the US Food and Drug Administration.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/09/poli ... index.html

If you work directly for the beast, you are more complicit so they will force you. So the message is; this thing is real and very dangerous so we do all we can to protect our workers. The other message is the one of shame for all those pesky anti-jabbers. It is all your fault! So come and take this shot!

They do this good cop bad cop routine; one will give you donuts and pets on your head when you are a good non-thinking citizen, the other one will shame you, take away your toys. Fucking pathetic and it makes you wonder how clear it has to become until the majority sees this sheit and just refuse to play ball.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:23 pm

Chananya Weissman gives 31 reasons why he will never take the C-19 jab. The list may not contain novel insights to CF members and many readers, but it´s a handy tool for informing useful idiots who are naively pushing the jab narrative, so I am reproducing it in its entirety:
1.
It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.

2.
The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.

3.
The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.

4.
I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.

5.
The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.

6.
The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.

7.
Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.

8.
Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.

9.
The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.

10.
The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.

11.
Three facts that must be put together:
- Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
- Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
- Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.

Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.

12.
The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.

13.
There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.

14.
The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.

15.
Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.

16.
This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.

17.
It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.

18.
Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.

19.
The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.

20.
We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.

21.
The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.

22.
The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.

23.
The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.
This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?

24.
I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.

25.
The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.

26.
Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.

27.
Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.

28.
I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.

29.
My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives. Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.

30.
I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts. Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”

31.
The whole thing stinks.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2021/02/ ... 9-vaccine/

Flabbergasted
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:44 pm

As part of Pope Francis' vaccine crusade, the Vatican´s forthcoming health forum will host a high-profile Israeli rabbi who demonizes conscientious objectors to the morona broth as criminals and murderers and declares it obligatory for governments to punish vaccine refuseniks. Steinberg, the Vatican's latest mouthpiece for the jab, claims the Old Testament obliges everyone to be vaccinated based on the commandment "You shall safeguard yourselves exceedingly" (Deuteronomy 4:15). It´s a good example of how rabbis falsify scripture like lawyers twist the law; the Deuteronomic text actually addresses idolatry and not physical health. The Rabbi also compared intentionally unvaccinated people to rodef (pursuers with an intent to kill) and said they should be judged in a criminal light and in the sphere of damages/torts. A "medical ethicist" writing in the Israeli daily, Arutz Sheva, maintains it is permissible to force vaccine refusers to be vaccinated against their will or to punish them for their refusal, as a consequence of the criminal aspect of their refusal.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/art ... ican-forum

sharpstuff
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by sharpstuff » Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:50 am

I wanted to post his link without comment, except to say that the notions presented are applicable to any of the ‘services’. I think it has many connotations. Please read the letter first.


https://advocateme.wixsite.com/copsforcovidtruth

Be well.

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