Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby bostonterrierowner on March 29th, 2015, 6:03 pm

Serik wrote:
The same day that the plane crash happened it was in the news that Angelina Jolie has had her ovaries
removed.


This plane crash hoax seems to have a sexual theme.

The pilot Andreas Lubeitz
His home town Montaboor


Probably not an accident that the crash site and also San Andreas fault ( the plane crash was Andreas fault ) with a little imagination looks like a certain female body part and of course the plane looks like a certain male body part. The white plane parts that are scattered all around the crash site could be ?



Good job getting into the esoteric angle of this psyop. They are obsessed with this stuff :)

The "crash" was a mock human sacrifice to fertility goddess Ishtar (Easter)/Isis/Semiramis/Mary. As always around the equinoxes there is "beheading" symbology at play (recently delivered to the masses via ISIS "savagery" ). We've got a "decapitation" theme in German Wings psyop as well.

"Lubitz" as we are told was insane so one might say that "he lost his head/den Kopf verliert" on this very day.

"Evil" winter was "beheaded" by "good" spring/summer, that's all the story is always about. Rerun in September :)
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby simonshack on March 29th, 2015, 7:21 pm

bostonterrierowner wrote:
The "crash" was a mock human sacrifice to fertility goddess Ishtar (Easter)/Isis/Semiramis/Mary.


Dear BTO,

Fertility goddess, you say? Well, it seems she's been busy lately...


<< Andreas Lubitz's girlfriend Kathrin Goldbach 'is pregnant
with Germanwings killer co-pilot's child' >>


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"Pressure: It is thought Lubitz's girlfriend was pregnant with his child"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ch-5421750


But hey, it is only "THOUGHT" that Mrs Goldbach is pregnant with Lubitz's child. So I guess we'll just have to wait for the DNA proof ! :P
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby brianv on March 29th, 2015, 7:41 pm

simonshack wrote:
bostonterrierowner wrote:
The "crash" was a mock human sacrifice to fertility goddess Ishtar (Easter)/Isis/Semiramis/Mary.


Dear BTO,

Fertility goddess, you say? Well, it seems she's been busy lately...


<< Andreas Lubitz's girlfriend Kathrin Goldbach 'is pregnant
with Germanwings killer co-pilot's child' >>


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"Pressure: It is thought Lubitz's girlfriend was pregnant with his child"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ch-5421750


But hey, it is only "THOUGHT" that Mrs Goldbach is pregnant with Lubitz's child. So I guess we'll just have to wait for the DNA proof ! :P


Simon isn't that the wrong Numbnutz? That's not a no.19 on the address I see? They must be Joseph Koening!!
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby bostonterrierowner on March 29th, 2015, 8:05 pm

Simon,

German "Bach" is English "stream,brook,spring". So we have Mrs Goldenspring pregnant with co-pilot's child . Again, the story is about a dual character of our world with opposites constantly fighting one another. Good,evil,north, south, east,west, cold, hot etc.

"Lubitz" a life taker , second pilot a life giver .

144 "passengers" are "dead" and this number relates to "light" in English gematria also "Israelites" were in Egyptian slavery for 400 years. 1 biblical year = 360 days; 400years x 360days/year = 144,000 days.

"Egyptian bondage" is an allegory of the wintertime that comes to an end after 144,000 days ( actually 144 what roughly corresponds to 5 months of winter) .

This stupid psyop has a vernal celebration symbology written all over it.
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby nonhocapito on March 29th, 2015, 8:36 pm

Selene wrote:20F Selina Yasmin Eils 16 Donna Germania Studente

We have a winner of the FPB, the Freemason Psy-oplogical Bingo!
  • 16, so a whole simlife in front of her :rolleyes:
  • Turkish-German by the looks of her name and woman; in "left-wing" Nord-Rhein Westfalen that counts as extra "victim" :puke:
  • sitting in the 11:01:11.11 row B)
  • the only student from her class who was sitting amongst other people. Poor Selina, all her vicclass friends were sitting in the back :huh:


Selene some of your posts are really too esoteric, not in a good way. Please try to either explain why certain "clues" have meaning or leave them out. I would also recommend phrasing your ideas much.more clearly.

Why turkish... woman... 'extra victim'? I don't get the whole line. what's that 11:10 something? are these.numbers really significant here or are you adding meaning through them?
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Selene on March 29th, 2015, 8:50 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
Selene wrote:20F Selina Yasmin Eils 16 Donna Germania Studente

We have a winner of the FPB, the Freemason Psy-oplogical Bingo!
  • 16, so a whole simlife in front of her :rolleyes:
  • Turkish-German by the looks of her name and woman; in "left-wing" Nord-Rhein Westfalen that counts as extra "victim" :puke:
  • sitting in the 11:01:11.11 row B)
  • the only student from her class who was sitting amongst other people. Poor Selina, all her vicclass friends were sitting in the back :huh:


Selene some of your posts are really too esoteric, not in a good way. Please try to either explain why certain "clues" have meaning or leave them out. I would also recommend phrasing your ideas much.more clearly.

Why turkish... woman... 'extra victim'? I don't get the whole line. what's that 11:10 something? are these.numbers really significant here or are you adding meaning through them?


It's just joking, based on the silly impact difference suffering money. The Emmas in row 15, Selina in 20 F. The remarkable "fact" is that she's the only one isolated from her class. Strange, even for a simulated plane. All her class mates in the back.

I don't know if you're familiar with some of the politics and social control in NW-Europe? Minorities are taken up by the left and bashed by the right to get the "right vote" behind them. The so-called "feminist and progressive" victimisation of women and etnic minorities is very pervasive in the cultures.

I'm just learning this numerology stuff, I assure you, a month ago I would have laughed at myself...

Don't take it too seriously, just thinking about some ideas.
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Pilgrim on March 29th, 2015, 11:25 pm

Back to Paul Bramley's Father's scripted speech (along with spooky tough guy turning the pages for him) it seems odd that a parent still in shock and grief would say such things about Airline "transparency" policy such a short time after a parents worst nightmare. One would talk about the loss, the pain, the grief and pay tribute to their lost one far more i would have thought if even they could do that at all. I know i couldn't. These things come much later usually.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLa3sgD3BoY

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Some strange things going on in the image below.
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source http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ge ... ad-5419695
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Serik on March 30th, 2015, 12:01 am

Lube it is


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Multi purpose lube


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Long rides lube
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Maat on March 30th, 2015, 3:43 am

Some "coincidental" facts re number 144 (total passenger sims), per : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/144_%28number%29

• The emergency telephone number for medical emergencies in Austria [à la 911]
• The emergency phone number for animals in danger in the Netherlands.
• The telephone number for directory assistance in Israel

• The number of square inches in a square foot
• 1:144 scale is a scale used for some scale models

• STS-144 was a proposed, now cancelled, Space Shuttle Columbia mission for November 2009 to retrieve the Hubble Space Telescope :rolleyes:
• Tupolev Tu-144 was the first supersonic transport aircraft (SST), constructed under the direction of the Soviet Tupolev

• Rule 144A, of the U.S. Securities Act of 1933 deals with private resales of restricted securities
• Form 144 (December 6, 2007), amends Rule 144 under the United States Securities Act of 1933 which regulates the resale of restricted securities and securities held by affiliates

• 144 is the twelfth Fibonacci number, and the largest one to also be a square
• The maximum determinant in a 9 by 9 matrix of zeroes and ones is 144.
• 144 is in base 10 a sum-product number, as well as a Harshad number. 144 is a repdigit in bases 15, 17, 23, 35, 47, 71, and 143

• The number of thousands (144000) of the chosen ones "from every tribe of the sons of Israel" who must be sealed before four angels release the winds (Bible, Revelation 7:3–4)
• The measurement, in cubits, of the wall of New Jerusalem shown by the seventh angel (Bible, Revelation 21:17)


Here's another reference to "144 passengers" on an aircraft in this “News” item (today) about a flight from Chandigarh to Mumbai in India:
http://www.fox.com.au/scoopla/life/blog/2015/3/plane-leaves-with-144-passengers-arrives-with-143/

[More details: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Man-who-jumped-off-Mumbai-plane-was-depressed/articleshow/46739624.cms — no suicide, just exited plane on the tarmac]
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby mnew9 on March 30th, 2015, 10:43 am

We are told that the Germanwings Airbus A320 disintegrated into tiny parts upon impact with the mountains. I have yet to see any pictures showing remnants of the plane's wings, its engine turbines or the exact point of impact on the mountain.
We are told that - "We haven't found a single body intact," deputy director of the police's criminal research institute Patrick Touron said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-30/dna-from-78-germanwings-crash-victims-found-french-alps/6357328

Yet, conveniently there is one large chunk of the fuselage found intact showing the planes ID number. :blink:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviatio ... aster.html

The Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed, photographed in September last year. The plane was 24 years old, so conceivably could have been retired, broken up and it's parts strewn onto the "crash site".
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Also, how convenient that a lot of the wreckage appears to have fallen into accessible crevices on the mountain. Very little debris seems to have fallen naturally onto the hard to get to mountain tops and slopes. A strong indicator that the wreckage (or garbage) has been purposely placed or dumped there.

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http://periodicodeibiza.es/sucesos/ulti ... dente.html
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Maat on March 30th, 2015, 11:08 am

mnew9 wrote:We are told that the Germanwings Airbus A320 disintegrated into tiny parts upon impact with the mountains. I have yet to see any pictures showing remnants of the plane's wings, its engine turbines or the exact point of impact on the mountain.
We are told that - "We haven't found a single body intact," deputy director of the police's criminal research institute Patrick Touron said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-30/dna-from-78-germanwings-crash-victims-found-french-alps/6357328

Yet, conveniently there is one large chunk of the fuselage found intact showing the plane's ID number. :blink:

Yes, mnew9, they really can't keep their stories straight. So if they "haven't found a single body intact", what the hell was this supposed to be :rolleyes: :

Germanwings-CNN-rescue-worker+body.jpg
Caption: “A helicopter lifts a rescue worker from the crash site in the French Alps on March 26.”http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/26/europe/fr ... rash-main/

N.B. Please only post original images & source links; not from disinfo/bait sites. Thanks.
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby brianv on March 30th, 2015, 3:37 pm

I have to ask!

Modern airplanes have computers running sophisticated software programs and sophisticated gyroscopic systems which corrects any sway, yaw and tilt to prevent the trolley-dollies from spilling hot coffee onto the laps of the passengers. How then is it possible that the computer would allow the pilot to crash the airplane into a mountain killing all the passengers? Do pilots actually do anything once the plane is off the ground? I know they don't even have to land the bloody things with modern systems like ILS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Flabbergasted on March 30th, 2015, 4:20 pm

brianv wrote:I have to ask!
Modern airplanes have computers running sophisticated software programs and sophisticated gyroscopic systems which corrects any sway, yaw and tilt to prevent the trolley-dollies from spilling hot coffee onto the laps of the passengers. How then is it possible that the computer would allow the pilot to crash the airplane into a mountain killing all the passengers? Do pilots actually do anything once the plane is off the ground? I know they don't even have to land the bloody things with modern systems like ILS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system

I have been asking myself that question since the first day.

A similar story occurred in Fortaleza in 1982 (different technology back then) when a pilot presumably flew a VASP airliner into a nearby mountain on purpose. On board was one of the city´s richest entrepreneurs (founder of the local university, TV station, cooking gas industry, radio station, mineral water industry, etc.).

On another note, a couple of months ago, a Dutch pilot by the name Jan Cocheret is supposed to have warned against co-pilots locking their peers out of the cockpit in order to commit terrible acts.

...I regularly ask myself about who is sitting next to me in the cockpit. How can I be sure he is trustworthy? Maybe something terrible has happened in his life, something he is unable to overcome. I hope that after taking a break to pee, I will never find myself outside a locked cockpit door. Then there will be nothing I can do but go and sit with the passengers and wait for what will happen...
Translation of source: http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/lafora/po ... 563889.asp

I haven´t been able to find the story in English. Nor the article in the Dutch journal (Piloot en Vliegtuig) in which Cocheret is said to have written those ominous words.
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby Maat on March 30th, 2015, 5:15 pm

brianv wrote:I have to ask!

Modern airplanes have computers running sophisticated software programs and sophisticated gyroscopic systems which corrects any sway, yaw and tilt to prevent the trolley-dollies from spilling hot coffee onto the laps of the passengers. How then is it possible that the computer would allow the pilot to crash the airplane into a mountain killing all the passengers? Do pilots actually do anything once the plane is off the ground? I know they don't even have to land the bloody things with modern systems like ILS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system

I guess even sophisticated avionic systems can be turned off (they'd need to have manual over-ride capabilities for unusual/unforeseeable situations, anyway).

Airbus A320s apparently do have full performance Vertical Navigation (VNAV): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_management_system#VNAV

And, according to: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/p ... -1.2161077
Retired U.S. Airline Capt. Andy Danziger … veteran Boeing pilot, who flew 737s, 757s and 767s during his 27-year career, now weighs in on some questions arising on the mysterious crash. …

DO AIRBUS AND BOEING USE FLY-BY-WIRE?

Airbus has exclusively been using "fly-by-wire" on all of its planes since the A320. Boeing has been using it since the 777 was introduced. Both manufacturers have different design philosophies regarding these designs.

HOW ARE THE CONTROLS DIFFERENT BETWEEN AN AIRBUS AND A BOEING?

The Airbus computer system generally interprets what the pilot asks for and makes the necessary inputs to the control surfaces to achieve this. If the pilot asks for something that the computer thinks will exceed a limitation on the plane (bank angle for instance) it will normally not allow the pilots input to be executed. This can be overridden by the pilots but it isn't normally done. The pilots make inputs, the computer interprets them and then (the computer) makes the final decision as to what command will be executed.

In the Boeing, the computer doesn't normally second guess the pilots control inputs. If the pilot tries to roll a 777 upside down it will roll upside down, the Airbus autopilot would normally stop the bank angle automatically at 30 degrees. Airbus thinks that this is safer; Boeing thinks that their way is safer. (Remember I'm a Boeing fan and a Boeing pilot).

So, not quite up to a HAL 9000...yet :P

HAL-9000.jpg


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Doubled fictional irony: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/andreas-lubitz-kneejerk-reaction-to-911-enabled-mass-murder-10137173.html — just blame it on 9/11! :wacko: :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/airline-cockpit-doors-locked-since-9-11-attacks-131345508.html
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Re: Germanwings 4U9525 Airbus crash, 24 March 2015

Postby nonhocapito on March 30th, 2015, 6:35 pm

Selene wrote:Don't take it too seriously, just thinking about some ideas.


Thinking is ok, but I want to remind you, and myself, and everyone, that this is a forum that works not just as a real-time propaganda demolisher, but also as a formidable archive of research. These pages can and will be read months or years after the psyop happened, and by people who are not privy to our inside jokes or our research experience or who might be coming around our parts for the first time. Let's always think about them.

Pilgrim wrote:Back to Paul Bramley's Father's scripted speech (along with spooky tough guy turning the pages for him) it seems odd that a parent still in shock and grief would say such things about Airline "transparency" policy such a short time after a parents worst nightmare. One would talk about the loss, the pain, the grief and pay tribute to their lost one far more i would have thought if even they could do that at all. I know i couldn't. These things come much later usually.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLa3sgD3BoY

Some strange things going on in the image below.
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source http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ge ... ad-5419695


Good call on the absurd Bramley interview. None of this camera grieving makes any sense! They're just in a hurry to play their rhetorical sentimental cards, to manipulate the public, before the public forgets all about it, and they don't care about credibility at all.
Do you mind elaborating the "strange things" going on in the image above? I have problems with those halos around them, they look like some badly intended photoshop filter.

Lastly more absurd news from the teenager front:

"She had been sending me messages on WhatsApp and Snap Chat and had been very happy about the trip. She had had a good time, said Philippa. "She sent me pictures of the group together and the different sights they saw. They looked like they had had fun."

from http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germanwings-pl ... ht-1493589


So on ibtimes we have a student, "Philippa", being self-evident about her friend "Elena Bless". But on CNN she is self evident in general:

Philippa, a friend of many of those who died, told CNN she was shocked by what had happened: "I knew all of them, they were in my grade. To some I was very close.
"We had already planned things for the future, what we were going to do when they returned from their trip. It is very hard to believed that we cannot do that."

from http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/25/europ ... -mourning/


The multiple presence of Philippa can be seen on the google : https://www.google.com/search?q=crash+v ... hilippa%22
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