BP oil spill

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Unread post by fbenario » Wed May 12, 2010 11:56 pm

Yahoo just posted a video of the oil gushing off the bottom of the rig, far underwater:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_sc2031

Oddly, it looks like billowing smoke through the air, not thick, oozing oil pushing its way through water, which would provide some resistance. It looks as if it is moving freely, in an unimpeded manner.

By contrast, we know that water at this depth is a crushing weight on something, preventing free and easy movement.

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Unread post by Dcopymope » Thu May 13, 2010 1:24 am

Here is a definition of Predictive Programming from Alan Watts website:

Predictive Programming - The power of suggestion using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.

Now here is the "Knowing" movie from 2009 predicting the oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico!

Can you tell the difference between which news report is real and which one isn’t? For all we know, the whole thing could have been faked like 9/11. Speaking of 9/11 and the magicians in Hollywood, here is the Lone Gunmen episode predicting 9/11 before it happened.

The Lone Gunmen Pilot Episode - 9/11 Predictive Programming

This is like a serial killer leaving clues as to what their next target will be for the police. I think the enemy is showing us what they are going to do next before they actually do it, primarily through the use of "fiction".

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Unread post by brianv » Thu May 13, 2010 1:38 am

Dcopymope @ May 13 2010, 02:24 AM wrote: Here is a definition of Predictive Programming from Alan Watts website:

Predictive Programming - The power of suggestion using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.

Now here is the "Knowing" movie from 2009 predicting the oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico!

Can you tell the difference between which news report is real and which one isn’t? For all we know, the whole thing could have been faked like 9/11. Speaking of 9/11 and the magicians in Hollywood, here is the Lone Gunmen episode predicting 9/11 before it happened.

The Lone Gunmen Pilot Episode - 9/11 Predictive Programming

This is like a serial killer leaving clues as to what their next target will be for the police. I think the enemy is showing us what they are going to do next before they actually do it, primarily through the use of "fiction".
Agreed, this was done with the event known as "7/7" also. The BBC's Panorama Special, which pretty much laid out exactly what would happen one year later.

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Unread post by Terence.drew » Thu May 13, 2010 3:50 am

brianv @ May 13 2010, 02:38 AM wrote:
Dcopymope 4 May 13 2010, 02:24 AM wrote: Here is a definition of Predictive Programming from Alan Watts website:

Predictive Programming - The power of suggestion using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.

Now here is the "Knowing" movie from 2009 predicting the oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico!

Can you tell the difference between which news report is real and which one isn’t? For all we know, the whole thing could have been faked like 9/11. Speaking of 9/11 and the magicians in Hollywood, here is the Lone Gunmen episode predicting 9/11 before it happened.

The Lone Gunmen Pilot Episode - 9/11 Predictive Programming

This is like a serial killer leaving clues as to what their next target will be for the police. I think the enemy is showing us what they are going to do next before they actually do it, primarily through the use of "fiction".
Agreed, this was done with the event known as "7/7" also. The BBC's Panorama Special, which pretty much laid out exactly what would happen one year later.
Yes , and as if by magic, the number 11 is displayed prominently in both the hollywood oil rig and the 'real' oil rig with it's 11 missing people.
Film produced by 'Escape artists' ..indeed.

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Unread post by godzilla » Thu May 13, 2010 4:25 am

I found it interesting that BP does big business with Venezuela. That seems like a no-no to the western capitalist-imperialist model of business.
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Unread post by MartinL » Thu May 13, 2010 5:22 am

godzilla @ May 13 2010, 05:25 AM wrote: I found it interesting that BP does big business with Venezuela. That seems like a no-no to the western capitalist-imperialist model of business.
BP Chairman is the same as Goldman Sachs Chairman.

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Thu May 13, 2010 5:30 pm

MartinL @ May 13 2010, 05:22 AM wrote:
godzilla 4 May 13 2010, 05:25 AM wrote: I found it interesting that BP does big business with Venezuela. That seems like a no-no to the western capitalist-imperialist model of business.
BP Chairman is the same as Goldman Sachs Chairman.
Isn't Goldman Sachs the same motherf#ckers that are literally controlling the oil prices and squeezing every penny out of the populace, while taxing their conscious for the CO2 regulations?

Seems like Joe Q. Public is getting put in a vice lately by these bastards.

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Unread post by Rasta84 » Fri May 14, 2010 7:04 am

godzilla 4 May 13 2010, 05:25 AM wrote: I found it interesting that BP does big business with Venezuela. That seems like a no-no to the western capitalist-imperialist model of business.
They'll do buisness w/anyone who's got the supply. The reason they don't like socialist countries is cause they nationalize resources and don't allow them the buisness so Venezuela is not very socialist by doing this.

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Mon May 17, 2010 7:25 am

What is this?

Overton disagreed, saying the oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill is too light to sink all the way.

A common refrain among experts and officials is that every oil spill is unique.

Larry McKinney, director of the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies at Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi, said the Deepwater Horizon spill reminds him of the last catastrophic oil flood in the Gulf.

In 1979, Mexico's Ixtoc I in the western Gulf blew out and spewed about 420,000 gallons of oil a day for nine months. Large quantities of oil did not reach Texas beaches.

"This was a problem we ran into with Ixtoc, we never found the oil," McKinney said. "But I think even today if you dig down in some sandy beaches you can find a layer of Ixtoc oil."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37150109/ns ... e-science/

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Unread post by D.Duck » Mon May 17, 2010 9:15 am

Hoi,

The magician tells you the rabbit is in the hat, in this case they tell you:

" you cant see the oil but its there, we promise the oil is on the bottom of the sea"

So please believe them cos they need money as they always do,lol.

I think Heiwa got it right so lets wait and see how much money they can suck out of this thing.


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Unread post by simonshack » Mon May 17, 2010 6:30 pm

hoi.polloi 4 May 17 2010, 07:25 AM wrote: What is this?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37150109/ns ... e-science/

Are they looking at videos to gauge the entity of oil spills? Seriously?

The 210,000 gallons figure -- specifically, about 5,000 barrels -- comes from NOAA and has frequently been cited by BP PLC and the Coast Guard. Some scientists have said based on an analysis of BP's video of the leak that the flow rate is much higher, while others have concluded the video is too grainy to draw any such conclusions.

And is the Associated Press involved in the scientific calculations of the oil spill?

One of their tools, a program the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration uses to predict how oil spills on the surface of water may behave, suggests that more than a third of the oil may already be out of the water.

About 35 percent of a spill the size of the one in the Gulf, consisting of the same light Louisiana crude, released in weather conditions and water temperatures similar to those found in the Gulf now would simply evaporate, according to data that The Associated Press entered into the program.

I hope those 11 workers didn't perish in vain...
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Unread post by godzilla » Mon May 17, 2010 7:01 pm

Speculating here.

I wonder if this whole scenario was created in order to lead up to the allowance of only select big corporations who meet certain standards to drill and profit in those waters? Or for that matter, maybe ultimately in any waters? If that were so, I wonder how it would affect the oil industry in countries like Venezuela?
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Unread post by Rasta84 » Tue May 18, 2010 11:53 am

godzilla @ May 17 2010, 08:01 PM wrote: Speculating here.

I wonder if this whole scenario was created in order to lead up to the allowance of only select big corporations who meet certain standards to drill and profit in those waters? Or for that matter, maybe ultimately in any waters? If that were so, I wonder how it would affect the oil industry in countries like Venezuela?
BP don't qualify as a select big corporation? This doesn't help their rep. at all.

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Unread post by godzilla » Tue May 18, 2010 8:04 pm

Rasta84 @ May 18 2010, 04:53 AM wrote:
godzilla 4 May 17 2010, 08:01 PM wrote: Speculating here.

I wonder if this whole scenario was created in order to lead up to the allowance of only select big corporations who meet certain standards to drill and profit in those waters? Or for that matter, maybe ultimately in any waters? If that were so, I wonder how it would affect the oil industry in countries like Venezuela?
BP don't qualify as a select big corporation? This doesn't help their rep. at all.
Well since the big players are in on the game, we'll see how it turns out in the end. Maybe BP is playing its part in all of this and will profit anyway.
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Unread post by MartinL » Tue May 18, 2010 9:17 pm

Not sure if this is mentioned, but I read somewhere (I'll try to find the source) that the Obama administration was holding secret meetings with BP because of this affair. Now, if the top guy at BP also is the top guy at Goldman Sachs, could there be a possibility that this is some kind of excuse for a conference on how things are gonna play out economically in the US/World in the future?

Not 100% connected, but still interesting: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.poli ... 09cb?pli=1

Here is something fascinating from a .mil site:

In August 1990, when President George H. W. Bush signed the Oil Pollution Act (OPA) into law and authorized use of the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund (OSLTF), the Fund was already four years old. Congress created the Fund in 1986, but did not pass legislation to authorize the use of the money or the collection of revenue necessary for its maintenance. It was only after the Exxon Valdez grounding and the passage of OPA that authorization was granted.
Source: http://www.uscg.mil/npfc/About_NPFC/osltf.asp


Then there is this article which reeks of BS and I feel sounds like the oil spill really isn't happening at all. I might be off here, but 75 million dollar sounds like very little compared to the supposed size of this oil spill? And if there are no real damage done at all - it might even be free for BP - the only one paying for the party is the tax-payers that fund the Coast Guard and the rest of the government apparatus that was set in motion with this supposed oil-leak. Just a thought.

The Obama administration warned BP in a strongly worded letter Saturday that the federal government expects the oil giant -- and not taxpayers -- to pay all damages associated with the ongoing Gulf of Mexico oil leak, even if they exceed the 75-million liability cap under federal law.

Two Cabinet secretaries, Ken Salazar of Interior and Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security, wrote to BP chief executive Tony Hayward to reiterate the administration's position that "BP is accountable to the American public for the full clean up of this spill and all the economic loss caused by the spill and related events."

The secretaries noted that BP has promptly paid damages claims thus far, and that company officials have repeatedly said they'll pay all "legitimate claims" stemming from the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig and subsequent, ongoing leak of thousands of barrels a day.

In light of those statements, Salazar and Napolitano wrote, "we understand that BP will not in any way seek to rely on the potential 75 million statutory cap to refuse to provide compensation to any individuals or others harmed by the oil spill, even if more than 75 million is required to provide full compensation to all claimants, and BP will not seek reimbursement from the American taxpayers, the United States Government, or the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund for any amount.
Source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greensp ... ility.html

But then again, you got the article from the 1st of May which suggests Bush Sr. and his cronies had a plan when the fund was set up.

Up to 1 billion of the 1.6 billion reserve could be used to compensate for losses from the accident, as much as half of it for what is sometimes a major category of costs: damage to natural resources like fisheries and other wildlife habitats.

Under the law that established the reserve, called the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund, the operators of the offshore rig face no more than 75 million in liability for the damages that might be claimed by individuals, companies or the government
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/us/02liability.html

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