The farcical comedy of "Wikileaks", "Anonymous" etc.

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Unread post by LightCone » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:44 am

pshea38 wrote: Is it out with the old and in with the new time?
Their timeframe for "TYLER" would appear to corroborate that hypothesis.

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Unread post by fbenario » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:52 am

pshea38 wrote:Ecuador 'gravely concerned' about Assange’s health

Is it out with the old and in with the new time?
Why do you take this single news-item seriously? You already know that all info released by gov., and its controlled media, is assumed to be a psychological operation (aka 'psyop' - ever come across that term before?) against someone.

You already know better (by virtue of being a voluntary member of the forum) than to post on any topic without having already read some measure of the forum's prior posts and analyses on the subject; as a result, you are deemed to have already learned there is NO credible evidence whatsoever that Ass-Angel exists as a real human being. Given the CIA connections in his background, even your own very limited bit of common sense should have 'clued you up' that's he's faked.

Consequently, your post here itself strikes me as a psyop against the forum, made with extreme, purposeful, negligence, if not outright malice.

Best take care with your next post. Don't like the posting rules and behavior we request of each member? Start your own forum.

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:02 am

Yes, and this "serious threat" is being hosted on our government's own YouTube, when they usually delete the slightest provocation.

Yeahhhh riiight.

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Unread post by pshea38 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:37 pm

fbenario wrote:
pshea38 wrote:Ecuador 'gravely concerned' about Assange’s health

Is it out with the old and in with the new time?
Why do you take this single news-item seriously? You already know that all info released by gov., and its controlled media, is assumed to be a psychological operation (aka 'psyop' - ever come across that term before?) against someone.

You already know better (by virtue of being a voluntary member of the forum) than to post on any topic without having already read some measure of the forum's prior posts and analyses on the subject; as a result, you are deemed to have already learned there is NO credible evidence whatsoever that Ass-Angel exists as a real human being. Given the CIA connections in his background, even your own very limited bit of common sense should have 'clued you up' that's he's faked.

Consequently, your post here itself strikes me as a psyop against the forum, made with extreme, purposeful, negligence, if not outright malice.

Best take care with your next post. Don't like the posting rules and behavior we request of each member? Start your own forum.

My limited common sense tells me what a pain in the arse you have become recently.
I have read everything on this forum, and am in agreement with most of the findings.

I am perfectly aware of the psy-op that is assange and wikileaks, and was simply posting an article
that suggested to me that they were en route to killing off this character, who has served his purpose,
to be replaced by another updated version.

And you accuse me of posting with purposeful negligence and malice. Never have I done this.

You come across recently, in all your posts, as a pompous asshole.
Is it purposeful, or can you not help it?

I believe YOU are now damaging this forum, but as I have not posted much of value,
I will take a bow, express my gratitude, and exit stage left.

Thanks all for educating this fool.

Slainte

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Unread post by fbenario » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:35 am

pshea38 wrote:I am perfectly aware of the psy-op that is assange and wikileaks, and was simply posting an article that suggested to me that they were en route to killing off this character, who has served his purpose,
to be replaced by another updated version.
Then why didn't you post with more specificity, thus showing your care in posting on a subject about which all new members likely are clueless?

Be gone. I, like Brian, am sick and tired of dealing with this crap.

ALL NEW MEMBERS, please take heed. If you come to the forum with an obvious, good-hearted, intention to learn, and can refrain from critiquing those of us lucky enough to have already discovered some bit of truth about 9/11 and other psyops - in other words, those of us who have earned just a tiny little bit of an iota of respect and courtesy from you - you will be treated as welcome new friends. Please come to us as adults; you will then likely do just fine here, and may, in the end, be seen as a valued contributor.

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Unread post by brianv » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:30 pm

fbenario wrote:
pshea38 wrote:I am perfectly aware of the psy-op that is assange and wikileaks, and was simply posting an article that suggested to me that they were en route to killing off this character, who has served his purpose,
to be replaced by another updated version.
Then why didn't you post with more specificity, thus showing your care in posting on a subject about which all new members likely are clueless?

Be gone. I, like Brian, am sick and tired of dealing with this crap.

ALL NEW MEMBERS, please take heed. If you come to the forum with an obvious, good-hearted, intention to learn, and can refrain from critiquing those of us lucky enough to have already discovered some bit of truth about 9/11 and other psyops - in other words, those of us who have earned just a tiny little bit of an iota of respect and courtesy from you - you will be treated as welcome new friends. Please come to us as adults; you will then likely do just fine here, and may, in the end, be seen as a valued contributor.
Que? You dealing with crap? You don't have to deal with anything! You, like me, are simply members here. I have a particular aversion to spam, not peoples opinions. Please do not use my name to buttress up your increasingly nasty posts towards others. And speaking of valued contributions could you point me to some of yours?

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Unread post by warriorhun » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:46 pm

Dear whatsgoingon,

I liked your post about the Empire crumbling under controlled demolition. ;)

But is the Empire REALLY crumbling???

I do not think so. The notion that these days are like the last days of the Roman Empire come from... the Mass Media, who else?
IMO the Empire is well and getting better each day thank you very much.

The situation I think is connected to the fall of the Sovietunion. Seriously. Let me explain what I mean:
During the faked, so-called "Cold War", one thing was for real: that under Communism, living standards were much, much lower than in the democratic West. In order to make Marxism being rejected by the working class in the West, the Western politicians made it their point to provide better living standards for them than the Communists provided to their own proletariat. This led to the social democratic welfare states, the Scandinavian Model, and so on. But after the fall of the Sovietunion, there is no need to pamper the working man anymore. Hence the declining living standards of the masses in the Western world. And although it may seem to us, working men, that our world is crumbling around us - indeed it is - but that is the whole POINT. The more we are fucked over, the more money is made on us, and the stronger the Empire becomes.

IMO, of course.

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:33 am

A sobering post, warriorhun. :|

I wish the outlook were more cheery.

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Unread post by bostonterrierowner » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:24 am

In my opinion , and I am talking about Europe now , we were all a part of the giant experiment that began in 1918 in Russia . Our owners wanted to see what would be a most effective way of controlling and milking the masses .

Some of us were put in a soviet block the others were placed in so called capitalist , western Europe and the puppet masters started observing and drawing conclusions .

Communism seemed promising in the beginning but later on the sheeple started voting with their legs and getting the fuck out of dodge en masse . After 40 some years it became obvious that collectivism isn't the way to go , system was uneffective , the hampsters just refused to propel the wheel. Poland in the 1980ies is a perfect example .

Swedish , Danish model for everyoone is out of the question because this way our tax farms aren't profitable enough and ruling oligarchies do not get fat fast enough and even worse , sometimes are forced to share the spoils with the little man .

So today we found ouresleves on the crossroads and IMO the way to go is neo feudalism , with more and more taxes and less and less privileges . Michael Hudson calls it a toll booth economy . We will face these proverbial booths everywhere . Chicago recently outsourced its parking meters to the private companies soon the other things will follow . One day we will be charged for walking the sidewalks because in line with the barbaric neo liberal mantra they would have to be "profitable " :)

The peak of the oppression will come when we are chipped and the amount of shit coming out of us is precisely measured against what we had eaten :) Perfect tax system

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Unread post by Flabbergasted » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:17 pm

bostonterrierowner wrote:In my opinion , and I am talking about Europe now , we were all a part of the giant experiment that began in 1918 in Russia . Our owners wanted to see what would be a most effective way of controlling and milking the masses .

Some of us were put in a soviet block the others were placed in so called capitalist , western Europe and the puppet masters started observing and drawing conclusions.
That reminds me of a book by Hungarian writer Louis Marschalko (a pseudonym?) in which he identifies the two systems of oppression you mention as "control by way of the check book" and "control by way of the machine gun". According to the author, the entire show (both systems) is run by organized Jewry. My Portuguese translation contains no information on publishing year (sometime during the cold war) or original title. The translated title would be "The Conquerors of the World".

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Unread post by bostonterrierowner » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:26 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:
bostonterrierowner wrote:In my opinion , and I am talking about Europe now , we were all a part of the giant experiment that began in 1918 in Russia . Our owners wanted to see what would be a most effective way of controlling and milking the masses .

Some of us were put in a soviet block the others were placed in so called capitalist , western Europe and the puppet masters started observing and drawing conclusions.
That reminds me of a book by Hungarian writer Louis Marschalko (a pseudonym?) in which he identifies the two systems of oppression you mention as "control by way of the check book" and "control by way of the machine gun". According to the author, the entire show (both systems) is run by organized Jewry. My Portuguese translation contains no information on publishing year (sometime during the cold war) or original title. The translated title would be "The Conquerors of the World".
Terror in Eastern Europe is IMO a myth , at least after 1956 . I am speaking for Poland of course . Nowadays who needs a GULAG when one has mortgage denominated in CHF and a constant fear of losing the job :)
Lemmings guard themselves always remembering not to jump ahead of the herd .

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Unread post by warriorhun » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:23 pm

Dear Flabbergasted,

you say:
That reminds me of a book by Hungarian writer Louis Marschalko (a pseudonym?) in which he identifies the two systems of oppression you mention as "control by way of the check book" and "control by way of the machine gun". According to the author, the entire show (both systems) is run by organized Jewry. My Portuguese translation contains no information on publishing year (sometime during the cold war) or original title. The translated title would be "The Conquerors of the World".
The name of the Hungarian writer you were refering to is Marschalkó Lajos, so "Louis Marschalko" isn't a pseudonym.
The first publishing year of the book you mentioned was 1958.
The original title is: "Világhódítók - az igazi háborús bűnösök", which translates into: "The conquerors of the world - the real war criminals".
This book - and all of his other books - were, of course, on index during the Communist regime...

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Unread post by warriorhun » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:56 pm

Dear bostonterrierowner,

you say:
Terror in Eastern Europe is IMO a myth , at least after 1956 . I am speaking for Poland of course . Nowadays who needs a GULAG when one has mortgage denominated in CHF and a constant fear of losing the job.
Lemmings guard themselves always remembering not to jump ahead of the herd .
I have to argue with that one. In some places the terror after 1956 in Eastern-Europe was very real, but it depends on which country we are talking about.

For example in Hungary, the Revolution of 1956 was followed by a big Red Terror-wave!
True, after that, the Kádár-regime wanted to prevent any possibility for another violent upheaval of the masses, and so decided on a new tactics: the actually gave food to the peoples and were trying to improve the general living standards, thus kind of trying to buy off the population. Kádár claimed: "everybody who is not against us therefore must be for us". It did not really work: although the Hungarian people realised that they are better off compared to the peoples of other Communist countries, but still we could not accept the regime for moral reasons, as it was built on high treason and over the spilled blood of Hungarians.
As Kádár himself languished in Rákosi's prison during the earlier, Stalinist era, so he did not want to bring back Stalinism. I doubt if he even believed in Communism after 1956 either, especially after seeing how the peasants and the workers, the whole proletariat were dead set against it. However, with the Soviets behind his back and an antagonistic population on his front, he had no option but to carry on as the show must go on.

Now, take the Romania of Nicolae Ceausescu! Terror there was in Communist Romania, on insane, Stalinist levels! The Securitate was everywhere, the people lived in constant fear and crushing poverty. Small wonder in 1989 all this culminated in a bloody revolution and bloodshed, resulting in Nicolae Ceausescu getting shot with his wife Elena Ceausescu, like the two rabid dogs they were...
And there is nothing new under the Sun. You old enough to remember the biggest reason of the great poverty in 1980s' Romania? It was their effort to pay back the Romanian national debt they owed to Western banks...

UPDATE:

you say:
In my opinion , and I am talking about Europe now , we were all a part of the giant experiment that began in 1918 in Russia . Our owners wanted to see what would be a most effective way of controlling and milking the masses . Some of us were put in a soviet block the others were placed in so called capitalist , western Europe and the puppet masters started observing and drawing conclusions .
And where did Hitler and National Socialism fit into the picture?
But overall, I do agree. Wonder what the conclusions might be? - especially if we suspect our societies today are manipulated into submission based on these observations and conclusions...

you also say:
So today we found ouresleves on the crossroads and IMO the way to go is neo feudalism , with more and more taxes and less and less privileges .
I'd say its more like: feudalism mixed with the ancient slave-holding societies, plus a turning back towards the conditions at the beginning of the industrial revolution...
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Unread post by brianv » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:17 pm

Hmm, Nicolae Ceausescu

"One unresolved mystery that followed the death of Nicolae Ceaușescu pertains to Romania's Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon rock which was in Ceaușescu's possession at the time of his death, but has since disappeared. This moon rock was presented by the Nixon Administration to Romania and is said to be worth 5 million dollars on the black market."

And the rest is history...really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ce ... te_note-27

Lots of noteworthy names, including George Galloway :puke:

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Unread post by LightCone » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:32 am

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USSC.GOV HACKED


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaPni5O2YyI

Citizens of the world,

Anonymous has observed for some time now the trajectory of justice in the United States with growing concern. We have marked the departure of this system from the noble ideals in which it was born and enshrined. We have seen the erosion of due process, the dilution of constitutional rights, the usurpation of the rightful authority of courts by the “discretion” of prosecutors. We have seen how the law is wielded less and less to uphold justice, and more and more to exercise control, authority and power in the interests of oppression or personal gain.

We have been watching, and waiting.

Two weeks ago today, a line was crossed. Two weeks ago today, Aaron Swartz was killed. Killed because he faced an impossible choice. Killed because he was forced into playing a game he could not win — a twisted and distorted perversion of justice — a game where the only winning move was not to play.

Anonymous immediately convened an emergency council to discuss our response to this tragedy. After much heavy-hearted discussion, the decision was upheld to engage the United States Department of Justice and its associated executive branches in a game of a similar nature, a game in which the only winning move is not to play.

Last year the Federal Bureau of Investigation revelled in porcine glee at its successful infiltration of certain elements of Anonymous. This infiltration was achieved through the use of the *same tactics which lead to Aaron Swartz’ death. It would not have been possible were it not for the power of federal prosecutors to thoroughly destroy the lives of any hacktivists they apprehend through the very real threat of highly disproportionate sentencing.

As a result of the FBI’s infiltration and entrapment tactics, several more of our brethren now face similar disproportionate persecution, the balance of their lives hanging on the severely skewed scales of a broken justice system.

We have felt within our hearts a burning rage in reaction to these events, but we have not allowed ourselves to be drawn into a foolish and premature response. We have bidden our time, operating in the shadows, adapting our tactics and honing our abilities. We have allowed the FBI and its masters in government — both the puppet and the shadow government that controls it — to believe they had struck a crippling blow to our infrastructure, that they had demoralized us, paralyzed us with paranoia and fear. We have held our tongue and waited.

With Aaron’s death we can wait no longer. The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.

This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…

There has been a lot of fuss recently in the technological media regarding such operations as Red October, the widespread use of vulnerable browsers and the availability of zero-day exploits for these browsers and their plugins. None of this comes of course as any surprise to us, but it is perhaps good that those within the information security industry are making the extent of these threats more widely understood.

Still there is nothing quite as educational as a well-conducted demonstration…

Through this websites and various others that will remain unnamed, we have been conducting our own infiltration. We did not restrict ourselves like the FBI to one high-profile compromise. We are far more ambitious, and far more capable. Over the last two weeks we have wound down this operation, removed all traces of leakware from the compromised systems, and taken down the injection apparatus used to detect and exploit vulnerable machines.

We have enough fissile material for multiple warheads. Today we are launching the first of these. Operation Last Resort has begun…

Warhead – U S – D O J – L E A – 2013 . A E E 256 is primed and armed. It has been quietly distributed to numerous mirrors over the last few days and is available for download from this website now. We encourage all Anonymous to syndicate this file as widely as possible.

The contents are various and we won’t ruin the speculation by revealing them. Suffice it to say, everyone has secrets, and some things are not meant to be public. At a regular interval commencing today, we will choose one media outlet and supply them with heavily redacted partial contents of the file. Any media outlets wishing to be eligible for this program must include within their reporting a means of secure communications.

We have not taken this action lightly, nor without consideration of the possible consequences. Should we be forced to reveal the trigger-key to this warhead, we understand that there will be collateral damage. We appreciate that many who work within the justice system believe in those principles that it has lost, corrupted, or abandoned, that they do not bear the full responsibility for the damages caused by their occupation.

It is our hope that this warhead need never be detonated.

However, in order for there to be a peaceful resolution to this crisis, certain things need to happen. There must be reform of outdated and poorly-envisioned legislation, written to be so broadly applied as to make a felony crime out of violation of terms of service, creating in effect vast swathes of crimes, and allowing for selective punishment. There must be reform of mandatory minimum sentencing. There must be a return to proportionality of punishment with respect to actual harm caused, and consideration of motive and mens rea. The inalienable right to a presumption of innocence and the recourse to trial and possibility of exoneration must be returned to its sacred status, and not gambled away by pre-trial bargaining in the face of overwhelming sentences, unaffordable justice and disfavourable odds. Laws must be upheld unselectively, and not used as a weapon of government to make examples of those it deems threatening to its power.

For good reason the statue of lady justice is blindfolded. No more should her innocence be besmirked, her scales tipped, nor her swordhand guided. Furthermore there must be a solemn commitment to freedom of the internet, this last great common space of humanity, and to the common ownership of information to further the common good.

We make this statement do not expect to be negotiated with; we do not desire to be negotiated with. We understand that due to the actions we take we exclude ourselves from the system within which solutions are found. There are others who serve that purpose, people far more respectable than us, people whose voices emerge from the light, and not the shadows. These voices are already making clear the reforms that have been necessary for some time, and are outright required now.

It is these people that the justice system, the government, and law enforcement must engage with. Their voices are already ringing strong with a chorus of determined resolution. We demand only that this chorus is not ignored. We demand the government does not make the mistake of hoping that time will dampen its ringing, that they can ride out this wave of determination, that business as usual can continue after a sufficient period of lip-service and back-patting.

Not this time. This time there will be change, or there will be chaos…

-Anonymous

Alleged massive infiltration. Is this too fantastical to be real? What "truths" will be revealed?

Is this an event indicative of the Internet's "Fight Club?" Indicative of a honeypot? Or indicative of a no-flag operation?

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