Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

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Re: Egypt Revolution

Unread postby tinignig on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:14 pm

nonhocapito wrote:"Bahrain's army deliberately kills peaceful protesters with live rounds".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnUQcKXmMM

Fake video, me thinks?


No it's not, personally know some of the people right there on the spot.
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Re: Egypt Revolution - and its domino effect

Unread postby tinignig on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:20 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear hoi.polloi,

you want something outrageous and impossible, something totally un-believable? Ok, I show restraint and post only one image from the millions.
It is Bahrain. Secular liberal democracy is not established there yet, that is why they are protesting in the first place. ;)

Okay, the image:
Image

Now, enter into google something like "bahrain women dress code". For me the first link which came up was this: http://www.asiarooms.com/en/travel-guid ... t%27s.html
Let me quote from this simple 2011 "Bahrain dos and don'ts" advice for tourists:
The women wear loose clothes that cover their hair, arms and legs...
However, modern western outfits like spaghetti tops or tops with deep necklines are not permitted. Women can choose from the half sleeves to the full sleeve tops.


So, in real life, the two girls would be raped and stoned to death, period.
Impossible image enough? ;)

And I am not simply doubting modern imagery: I do not believe a thing these Media strangers show me as Media imagery, and I quit watching TV totally. I concentrate on real life instead, the real people and the real world around me. And I have to thank septemberclues for starting up my thinking in regard of this. TV is not reality. And I admit reality is fucked up: just not the way they show on TV. ;)



Seriously guys, this is only my second post here, and i only joined after stumbling on the other threads besides the 911 stuff.

I am from Bahrain, I am a protestor. Let just give you a little background on this place and show how "idiotic" your information are.

I am come from a conservative family, yet I was privately schooled, none of my friends wear the head scarf, Just today i was out with my girlfriend cuddling in a coffee shop. WE TOLERATE EACHOTHER. my western friends here can buy drinks and pork and party outdoors. I MEAN COME ON!!! this seriously puts this whole forum into doubts when such stuff is reported with WINKS!! as if you are being overly smart!!.

BETTER YET, listen to this.. I AM A PROTESTOR, we had a "movement" in the 90s, the early 80s, the 70s we had a parliament for a couple of years and this dissolved, we had another movement in the 50s and in the 30s... this is a long term struggle for freedom here.. I have a couzin in Jail, and a friend lost three family members in this revolution. I can go on and on, and am more than happy to answer any questions about the whole area in general...
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby bostonterrierowner on Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:25 pm

Its not very polite of you to come to this forum and call our research idiotic .

Why do you waste your revolutionary time and write stuff to the bunch of idiots?

Dont you have some stones to throw ?

Seriously if you decided to troll on this forum dont insult us and at least try to be subtle , now you are technicaly banned . BOA - banned on arrival :)

If you are a real person of course and not some algorythm

Glad you protestor still have a broadband access :)
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby imaginefreedom on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:32 am

You have a point, it wasnt polite of me. I am sorry, I was overly upset with the quality of that post, I have never read anything besides the main 9/11 hoax thread up to that point. Let me point out politely, why am I not an algorythim and present my views more clearly so hopefully am given some "credit" within the group. I in no way intend to "Troll" or just be an ass.. In fact this is my first subscription to any such forums or website EVER.. even though I am very interested in the overall theme of media fakery and conditioning let alone conspiracy theories at large.

In that post the person above states "in real life these girls will stoned and raped" or something along these lines. I invite you my friend to google "bahrain girls" or go to facebook and just search for people from bahrain. It is a VERY modern society, we are the first country in the region to have education, women have equal rights, we have freedom of religion, we even have a jewish ambassador! the pearl roundabout has been filled with liberals, ssocialist and conservatives, in fact the main political party to back the protests was a liberal party (WAAD) (their leader Ebrahim Sharif is in prison since March) not the islamic Wefag Party.. I was part of the group (WAAD)... our side of the Pearl roundabout had music and none was wearing the "head scarf" let alone covering themselves from head to toe!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwYxcDQL0l8 <--- someone to be stoned in this country for whats wearing?!?!?!

Now to you my friend, Yes i do have time to throw stones, but right now it is time for online activism as well as on the ground, any slight movement at ground level and you are tear gassed, we get tear gassed on a daily basis.. Miss-carriage rates are going up as well as deaths of the very young and old including a 55 year old last week and a 5 days on baby a couple of months ago.

You are more than welcomed to youtube "bahrain" and use the upload filter to "upload date". use these keywords in arabic to help "البحرين قمع"

One more thing, I dont only have a broadband connection, I drive a fancy car as well, studied abroad in Australia and am VERY WELL OFF, but that doesnt mean am going to shut up about the injustice happening to my people. Sometimes the truth and real information is NOT what you expect, lets hold hands and try to share information not beat eachother down. Am sorry for my first post sounding the way it did and I sincerely hope the above information provides a good starting point for dialogue with me. I am more than happy to provide any "real" evidence about "my existance" for starters am not posting behind a proxy right now so the admins KNOW am in Bahrain.

P.S I dont find you guys as idiots, but reaching the conclusions that guy did based on a "dress code" from some website without any other sort of short research...sigh... a girl being raped and stoned for not wearing a head scarf in a country where drinking and clubbing is allowed and advertised for on state media??!! lol... You my friends are not idiots and thats why I have the time to talk to you, I want to spread the truth and help you understand this place as well as more of the arab world. Many of the posts here are anti-msm but in the same time are driven by thoughts and idea implanted by the MSM in your heads ages ago! i.e raped and stoned!!

Bahrain revolution stats:

over 50 dead, 4000 dismissals (many given jobs back slowly but not with same salaries benefits etc), military trials for doctors, athletes, journalists. over 1500 torture cases included 4 died under torture. 35 "shiaa" mosques destroyed plus dozens of "matams" damaged" all this to a population of around 700,000 and all these atrocities targeted just one sect (shia) of the population to cause sectarian tensions.

I beg of you to ask me ANYTHING rather than block me again, I love this website and i love your theories and I dont want to leave here dissapointed :wub: oh and more than happy to upload pics of me and my female friends in bahrain out and about if someone can teach me how lol
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby imaginefreedom on Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:30 am

On the wider scheme of things, from an arab point of view.

I would say most of us arabs are skeptical about whats going on with the revolutions... we ALL agree the people had enough and they are out on the streets.. but somewhere along the line.. in the middle of the tunisian revolution the TPTB (msm) represented by Al Jazeera here started manipulating things to their end. AL JAZEERA contributed 24 hour coverage to the egyptian revolution till hosni fell.. but suddenly went silent all of a sudden! everyone here KNOWS the story is not over yet.. hosni is a figurehead.. the real rulers are SCAF (Military council) yet shhhhhh silence.. and now more people are dying more violently under SCAF as they struggle for freedom while most MSMs here covering syria from distorted sectarian angles... while reporting on the "chaos" in egypt by the "protestors" are ruining their new democracy... WHY? those are the questions.. we know LIBYA is a given case of major fabrication but its not the case with other countries, where there are REAL events which are not reported or distorted when reported. With these i can genuinely help... I havent seen posts from people from this side of the world here... And I am in no way DISTORTED by the sectarian or religious undertone they use in the MSM.. for example they label Syria as "sunni people vs unjust shia iranian backed ruler" and label bahrain as "shia iranian loyal protestors vs good sunni royal democracy" (Al Jazeera english uses different undertones)
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby bostonterrierowner on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:48 pm

Mr . Bahraini you cant just come back after a ban with a new ID :) Thats unfortunately what the ban is for , eliminating undisired traffick .

If life is such a bad ass experience in Bahrain why the fuck are you in a revolution in a first place ? Or its just a fake media event with some rationale behind it ?
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby imaginefreedom on Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:23 pm

what undesired about my traffic? am providing information :S dont you guys WANT information?

Bahrain is an island, ruled by a ruling family that conquered the island 230 years ago, However we are an island with no beaches, rife corruption, almost all ministrial and higher up positions are for the ruling family members, to make things worse shiite muslims are not allowed in army or police force, only in minute numbers (most are jailed since the revolution). We have a housing crisis while man made island are made for the "elite" class destroying the fishing industry which many locals are dependent on.

At least 65 kilometers square of land is "stolen" from the public domain (government), our prime minister has been in position for 42 years.. a Guinness world record. Our family could be well off but that is no reason for us to ignore the rest of the population, we have been having a movement on average every 10 years, ALWAYS ignored by the media... except this one "for a while" as Qatar has long standing tensions with our Royals and took this opportunity to "grab them by the balls"... right now for Al Jazeera arabic bahrain doesnt exist for all they care.

Bahrain's events are not fake in any way or form, there has been "fake" events for the the local g.c.c media (kuwait, oman, bahrain, saudi, emirates etc) level media but never reported on the intenational scale, its been distored by Al Jazeera Arabic since the saudi troops came in, while AJe english provides shouts of truth every few months... So far the only media channel that provides a glimse of unfiltered truth is "France 24" in arabic.. dont know what their background is or agenda... Another side media manupilation is the iranians.. their channels is wayyy too pro-protestors.. that even we are sick of it... they have their own agenda which is clear, no one denies that shit hitting the fan in bahrain is a good thing for the iranians.

Now i dont get why you seem to still have an issue with me? this thread is about the middle east revolutions,, and am part of it... and I AGREE with media fakery and want to provide nothing but my resources and information into this collective project... why am i rubbing you the wrong way? I apologized for my first post. and I explain.. with evidence why I was acting the way I did.

BTW it didnt start as a revolution, just a few protests asking for minor political changes which rapidly changed after 2 were shot dead with bird shotguns

one more thing.. did i make a new username over nothing?? i actually thought I was banned... now i realized you're just a fellow member not an administrator.. sigh
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby simonshack on Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:11 am

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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby warriorhun on Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:07 pm

Dear tinignig/imaginefreedom/mr. Bahraini,

It was me who committed that comment back then and got instantly slammed for my ignorance.

So, although I have never been in the country, and probably never will be, much to my great sadness, I will officially declare the following so everybody may keep their calm:

Bahrain is, a cool place, where people keep their Islamic traditions but are very open and tolerant. There are more pretty girls on the streets of Bahrain with a sexy décolletage then you could shake a stick at, without any fear of bodily harm. Satisfied?
And I bet most of them can cook too, un-like Western girls, so consider yourself lucky not only for rolling in petro-dollars!

Tell us about something else, instead:
Why do you took to the streets of Bahrain, instead of poring over the last Ferrari car catalouge deciding on which latest model to buy to impress those ladies?
How does the Bahraini events fit into the whole picture?
For me, it seems it was not necessary part of the whole "Crescent of Democracy"-plan...
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby warriorhun on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:40 pm

Dear All,

I know the Af/Pak war is far from the Middle East and Taliban are not Arabs, but I did not see any Afghanistan topic, and damn me if I open a new one on this sick shit.
You know what I am on about American soldiers peeing away a few billion of dollars spent on "Hearts and Minds" and pro-American PR in Afghanistan on the following video:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6lR3ZGFwvI

Pentagon says it may be a fake, so we can be sure it be real. I'm not that surprised, though: give young men guns and un-checked power over a population, and they will do all the stupid, disgusting things their imagination can come up with. Like collecting ears, or things like on this video. Happens, but doesn't look good on TV for sure.
So? Fake or real?
Maybe a prelude to a pull out from the country?
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby simonshack on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:54 pm

They appear to have extremely tiny - almost invisible dicks :huh: ?
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby imaginefreedom on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:46 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear tinignig/imaginefreedom/mr. Bahraini,

Tell us about something else, instead:
Why do you took to the streets of Bahrain, instead of poring over the last Ferrari car catalouge deciding on which latest model to buy to impress those ladies?
How does the Bahraini events fit into the whole picture?
For me, it seems it was not necessary part of the whole "Crescent of Democracy"-plan...


1- I am well off, that doesnt mean the rest of the country is. The "Bahranis" which is a local name given to the indegnious locals are discriminated against in housing, employment and benefits, they are not allowed to serve in the police, army and are systematically barred from higher up government positions which are almost all taken by the royal family. This struggle has been going on and document for the past 230 years, especially the last 60 years or so have seen a "movement" of sorts every 10 years on average.

The demands of the people before the "down down hamad (the king) became a chant, which i guess you can state as the reason for people taking out to the streets were i- return stolen public cash, land etc to the government i.e the people, abolish the shura council and have one parliament with equal voting "circles", stop political nuturalization.. the government has been handing out citizenship like cup cakes to all sort of nationalities, usually fanatics from iraq, jordan etc to employ in the police force, an elected government not appointed by king plus a couple others.. BASICALLY requesting the King to implement a constantutional monarchy system just like he promised 10 years ago when he announced himself King...

Why am I still personally out protesting? my couzin got a 15 years jail sentence, and my bestfriend lost his brother who got beaten to death by cops.. my mom's close friend a woman was snipped in the head while driving her car.. thats why am protesting I want Justice..

How does bahrain fit into the whole picture? the "Arab spring" as they call it just gave the people a shot of confidence to go out in big numbers and onto the main roads instead of just villages, it has been "quiet" before this revolution, we had clashes and small protest every few weeks for the past 2 or 3 years.. We have our own historic freedom struggle, nothing to do with global affairs.

I dont understand your last point sorry..
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby warriorhun on Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:19 am

Well, simonshack,

you say:
They appear to have extremely tiny - almost invisible dicks :huh: ?


I do not know the correct English slang, but there are "blood dicks" and "meat dicks". I refrain from the description of technicalities. Maybe "blood dicks" are the US Military standard. :)

While we are at dicks, what do you think the Afghanistan solution is for them? Does the NATO and the US Army have military brothels there? Where do the girls come from, US and Europe? Or maybe they are local ladies after health-check and a good scrubbing with soap and water?
There must be some institution, you can not come back from battle and go to the next one without fucking.
Hm?
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby warriorhun on Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:50 am

Dear imaginefreedom,

you say:
I dont understand your last point sorry..


What I meant was that probably the bahraini events were not part of the CIA/Mossad organized, fake Facebook revolutions to create a "Crescent of Democracy" in the Middle East, to take out Libya, Syria and Iran after Iraq.

It was rather like a copy-cat event. The locals thought in Bahrain that now is the time to push for regime change as in the other Arab countries. But it did not happen, did it? The powers that be, Israel and America were not interested to take out Bahrain.
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Re: Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

Unread postby imaginefreedom on Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:20 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear imaginefreedom,

you say:
I dont understand your last point sorry..


What I meant was that probably the bahraini events were not part of the CIA/Mossad organized, fake Facebook revolutions to create a "Crescent of Democracy" in the Middle East, to take out Libya, Syria and Iran after Iraq.

It was rather like a copy-cat event. The locals thought in Bahrain that now is the time to push for regime change as in the other Arab countries. But it did not happen, did it? The powers that be, Israel and America were not interested to take out Bahrain.


whether they like it or not we are moving on with our movement B)
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