hoi.polloi wrote:Yes, right from the start — the fay of the event and onward — in America, people on the street were saying, "Ah, another Jewish attack" and things like that, just like they always have about events, ever since I was a child. It seems to be a part of American culture. Perhaps it's the polar opposite of those who are brainwashed by television and think evil ex-government or disgruntled postal workers and Arabs are after us. One man told me an Israeli jet fighter was seen flying over the U.S.A., and there are many researchers who immediately "knew" it was a "Jewish" event. As a matter of fact, many of these people had considered to themselves that they'd pretty much "solved" 9/11 and found that any further research was unnecessary unless it helped people wake up to the Jewish media problem, because everything ties back to a Jewish problem. That's not an unfair position, if a bit simplistically antipodean. It resists the TV message that Jews are some humble, pseudo-untouchable, innocent superior race. Why not stop there, I suppose, if that's enough for you? Resisting the messages of television and Hollywood, however it's done, is definitely an accomplishment we might all strive for — not just for us, but for our friends and family.
I agree with you here, Hoi: I think we must be aware that the messages of tv and Hollywood are mostly propaganda on the part of those who control both environments. Therefore, I think we should reduce exposure to that propaganda to the minimum, and always take whatever comes out of our screens with at least a grain of salt. And not just for us, but also for our friends and family, as you say.
As for me, maybe it's just a coincidence, but I started noticing the "open conspiracy" I refer to here especially after I stopped watching movies, tv news and series. Possibly one needs to detox a bit - to unplug from the matrix, so to speak - before being able to see things more clearly.
I personally think the terrorism hoax shows the involvement of a bizarre Gnostic/Masonic/Abrahamic/Pagan cult and other weird connections that sometimes go by contemporary names (perhaps "Jewish" is one of them, since Judaism apparently arose out of a kind of Paganism/Shamanism, or so I hear), and I find the Pope's endorsement of the victim vicsim memorial rather problematic. But I suppose the Pope and the Dalai Lama could be Jewish too. Who knows? Makes me wonder what "Jewish" means, then.
Most probably I'll talk about this more in depth in a future post, but I'll give you a simple "working definition" here.
For me, "Jewish" refers fundamentally to a very strong form of cultural/religious conditioning based on the idea of a "chosen" group of people with a strong "ingroup/outgroup" mentality who, referring to and identifying themselves with "sacred" texts like the Torah and especially the Talmud, consider themself as members of a superior race destined to rule over other races, perceived as inferior and even sub-human. But since this group of people constitutes a minority, and wants to stay that way, they must use indirect, surreptitious means to rule over and exploit the overwhelming majority of other people by undermining them through various forms of deceit and even mind-control.
To me this is a historically provable fact, although not all the evidence can be given at once here, of course. But I think we can get there, bit by bit.
The idea of a predominant "Jewish" signature (as opposed to a strategic involvement of all major religions and their leaders merely including Jewish people) sounds pretty close to a link I found, where the supporters appear to be fans of 'September Clues' too: http://www.subvertednation.net/911-miss ... see-video/
(This post in particular is a critique of http://www.911missinglinks.com
On that site, you find comments like this:
August 6, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Ive a suggestion for anyone reading this , try this simple exercise.Try talking to someone about the jews watch the reaction watch the programing kick in if this isnt sheer proof at the grip this has on peoples lives then what is . If I said honky or nigger people wouldnt bat an eye but say jew and its like years of programming and walls come up.Your absolutely right Adam in saying “When people discover truth on their own, they become extremely receptive to it, and the jew’s strangle hold on people’s minds is already crumbling” another simple thing ive noticed and tried to implicate is no longer telling people the truth but instead pick away at the lie people are more receptive to this (brainwashing probably)they take truth as your truth for some reason its easier to expose the lie.Mk ultra was big on key words weve all heard the “everytime a doorbell rings youll caw like a chicken “except now its everytime you here the word jew youll shut down , deny , ignore , and eventually reason it away , almost like it was never there.
Would you say you sympathize with this perspective, jumpy64? Do you feel that this simple exercise suggested is useful? That people "shut down, deny, ignore and eventually reason [...] away" suggestions that Jews have a kind of stranglehold on people's minds? Is that why you named this thread the way you have? Do you feel you need to carefully monitor each time that you mention Jews, in one place, so that you can "watch the reaction" and/or "watch the programming kick in"?
Yes, I think we've been programmed for many years, in various forms, to respond in certain ways whenever the "Jewish question" is raised. So yes, I think the exercise suggested could be useful (and even more if it were written a little better
). Of course, not all people react to the conditioning in the same way, just most of them. There are let's say "rebellious types" who might have opposite reactions, like hate, for example. We could consider these kind of extreme reactions pathological, although it must be said that, as I've already pointed out here in a post on pornography, Jews talk openly about their "atavistic hatred" towards Christians and consider it normal. So we're always at a disadvantage here, because Jewish-conditioned people don't seem to share our tendency toward self-criticism.
Anyway, in a sense yes, you're right. I've named the thread the way I have partly to protest against the absurd "thought-crime" laws protecting Jews from any form of criticism, and partly to avoid as much as possible the "kicking in" of a certain programming that can work in the back of anybody's mind, even just unconsciously.
It sounds as though you are a kind of freedom fighter in your country/land, resisting a colonial force — a furtive empire — invading your culture. Good job, if you are! And congratulations for being so brave and clever to take the position you have, under the circumstances. This would go some way to explaining to readers how you feel. And it would be interesting to hear what you consider "Jewish" about your culture besides Jews themselves. What makes an inanimate thing or abstract concept something that is considered "too Jewish" and therefore a kind of colonizing force in your life? Let's invite ourselves to be open about this.
Thank you for the congratulations, but I don't think I have done much of anything yet. As for your question about what I consider "Jewish" about my/our culture, it could be something to think about more in depth. I'll get back to you when I do so.