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What should be the order of topics on 'The Clues Chronicle'? (select up to 3)

WAR: Hot, Cold & Space Wars, Deification, Demonization & Victimization, Holocaust, Unclear Bombs & Lying Leaders
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14%
THE STATE: Banking Scams, Capitalism is Communism, Bad Religion, Public Relations, Propaganda, Hollywood & Magicians
13
14%
SPACE: Moon Hoax, Space Stations, Rocketry, Satellites & "Probes"
17
18%
GUNS: JFK, MLK Jr., John Lennon, Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, Breivik, Gabby Giffords, Batman & beyond
10
11%
TERROR: 9/11, 7/7 "bombing", Madrid, Mumbai & the further escapades of Mr. Allen Qaeda
17
18%
HEALTH: Ebola, AIDS, Flu, Pharmaceuticals, SARS & Health Scares
4
4%
TRANSPORTATION: Titanic, Princess Di, MH370, Lucitania, Train Wrecks, Com-trails & other transportation oddities
4
4%
SCIENCE GODS: Einstein, Kepler, Newton, Darwin & other hucksters
6
7%
NATURE: Earth Science, Global Warming, Dinosaurs, Fukushima/Tsunami & Slightly Unnatural Disasters
8
9%
 
Total votes : 92

Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby hoi.polloi on December 21st, 2017, 8:46 pm

Thank you again for the appreciation from everyone.

I agree with concise summaries, Flabbergasted. Do you think that perhaps it would be better if, like a research paper, we summarized what we were about to say before going into the details? I am trying to think of a segment that we could do.

Presently our format has evolved into:

1. Review last episode casually
2. Catch up with any guest(s)
3. Outline our understanding of new topic
4. Select from CluesForum threads (to read and explain how our conversation arrived there)
5. Occasionally meander into side/related topics

If we inserted something before part 1 or part 2, perhaps after we listened to the entire show, we could come up with a way to give listeners a briefing in the first seconds, in order to prepare them for our proposed position, or prepare them for what will transpire during the show. Does that sound alright? It might add a little time before each release, but not "too much", if the trade off is worth it.

Having said that, I think we will bravely attempt brevity with Breivik without getting brusque. B)
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby Kham on December 21st, 2017, 10:56 pm

Flabbergasted,

Thanks for clarifying from where you are coming. To communicate effectively, especially with our subject matter, has always been one of our top goals. That’s why we restate paradigm shifting phrases and give examples of concepts needed to comprehend such shifts.

Hoi and I want Clues Chronicle to be of value to both new and old listeners. Another tool in communication that adds content is prepping the new listener’s brain to comprehend never-before-heard-of ideas. There might not be schema, or places/groupings in which to add new types of information to one’s thinking. We attempt to provide that crucial building block of new paradigms by helping the new listener set up those schema. Gatekeeper audios, on the other hand, don’t set up new schema and so overwhelm the listener with new data for which there is no place to store it in the brain. The result is a major loss in comprehension.

Another tool for communication that causes wordiness are information and experiences of a personal nature. This human aspect is one of the major differences between Clues Chronicles and other ‘truther’ audios. We are willing to disclose personal aspects of our lives. In our fields of research gatekeeping has run amok. I have noticed one major difference between sincere and non-sincere ‘truthers’ is personal stories. This is evident in Lenon Honor’s research, imho, who seems to excel at sincereness.

With all that in mind, let us see if brevity has a bearing on with Anders Behring Breivik on the next Clues Chronicle 25.
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby hoi.polloi on December 22nd, 2017, 6:32 am

If you go back to page 1 and 2 of this thread you can find a solid wall of contention against our show existing, from our own nonhocapito. The best "take away" I still have from that is an ideal show would involve some form of recorded interactive conference with strangers. I am still attached to this idea and maybe a future evolution of the show could involve something like "speaking with average people who are curious about these ideas but who haven't understood how to integrate them in their thinking". I am not sure if that would be more or less successful than The Clues Chronicle has been.
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby Flabbergasted on December 23rd, 2017, 1:57 am

hoi.polloi wrote:...Maybe our approach should be to "excite" or do something else? What do you think would make our show better, Flabbergasted?
...Do you think that perhaps it would be better if, like a research paper, we summarized what we were about to say before going into the details?

I don´t know if styles can or should be mixed. The format of the chronicles has developed naturally over time. So, rather than changing that, perhaps the same team could make some additional and shorter question-and-answer podcasts, each one lasting 20 or 30 min.

For example, in the chronicle on rocketry, K asks Simon a very important question: "how do you know for sure the earth is a globe?" This type of question brings listeners to the edge of the chair, eager to put to rest their doubts about the spherical shape of the world and bury the FE movement for good. A highly sensitive question like that begs a carefully rehearsed answer, if possible using a bullet list, rather than an improvised chat. After summarizing the known facts (to the extent things can be known) and laying out the most plausible scenarios/explanations/interpretations, two or three of the most common objections could be addressed, without straying too far from the central topic. End of FAQcast.

The chronicles could continue without change in format or pace, covering more general subjects (nuclear weapons, the cold war, the holocaust, fakery in orbit, etc.), while the more concise and rehearsed FAQcast format could be used for specific questions like "How could the Towers have been empty on 9/11?" or "What is wrong with the Zapruder video?" or "Who or what was Wernher von Braun?" or "What are fauxtographers?" or "What is the Vicsim Report?". I think this additional social service would help newcomers approach and start navigating the deep ocean of media fakery.
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby hoi.polloi on December 24th, 2017, 5:55 am

It sounds a bit like a classroom setting activity. I am not sure I would be very good at that. Maybe K could, being a teacher, but I am not sure. However, I see how that "authoritative" voice could certainly help people with learning/attention styles that match. Good idea, Flabbergasted! Let's see how and when we can integrate such a project into our time. I'd give it a go.

If you wanted us to get a jump start, maybe if you wrote a little example script outline, maybe I could flesh it out, "scrub" it and see if it's something that can be presented as such. Otherwise, I think I have the gist of it and I could attempt a script myself. I worry that I will not be emotionally compatible with the format, but no harm in trying.

May I kindly reiterate, at the risk of reading like a transcript of a broken record, that we very much welcome others to design and implement their ideal project — bearing in mind us admins would probably love to collaborate and help with something that other members spearhead?
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So far, we have seen Fakeologist, kham's show, Rochello's video deconstructions, patrix's podcast and The Clues Chronicle. There's more than enough room — dare I say, a near infinite vacuum of it — for any more ideas/efforts!
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby hoi.polloi on April 9th, 2018, 6:18 pm

Audial-oriented cultural critics rejoice! :lol:

Some very sweet and balanced new information to munch on.

Issue 25: Hi, TYCHOS
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http://www.theclueschronicle.info/2018/ ... hi-tychos/

Whew! We did it! It's been quite some delay in coming to you but here we go — our most "inductive" show yet, where reality finally takes center stage. Pushing junk and lies away, clearing the table — yes, let's make a platform for the TYCHOS to get its fair share of attention. There have already been detractors giving in to the Copernican system that they are trapped in. Rest assured this is a much better alternative but don't believe me. Use the model for yourself: http://www.tychos.info/tychosium-2d/

tychosium example.jpg


This is the best audio explanation of the TYCHOS yet released and far superior to any commentators who haven't even read the book and feel they should comment on the TYCHOS system without even trying to understand what, precisely, is so wrong about the heliocentric system and why the TYCHOS is the best replacement.

Well, in any case, I find it pretty nice. Make your own choice. You're welcome to continue whizzing around the Sun at 30,000 meters per second in your mind. I'm pretty happy with my tranquil turtle pace, thank you.

Now, next time, we are likely to finally get back to media fakery but please do let us know if this episode has helped you process the TYCHOS model by commenting in this thread!
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby hoi.polloi on July 21st, 2018, 7:53 pm

Issue 26: Hi, Utøya!

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A new episode packed with material. K and Hoi are back on task ...

Guests

Hoi's friend L and our forum's own CluesForum member cooler1021

Summary

K and myself speak with special guests L and Cooler about how they found September Clues and then discuss their experiences with mythology vs. reality (about 1 hour)

We talk about how the ALCON 2018 event went for the TYCHOS model (for about 30 minutes)

K and I then chat about the strange circumstances of the “terrorist” story of the simulated madman (or simmad) of Breivik, especially reviewing the Oslo/Utøya thread (for about 1 hour 30 minutes)

Please enjoy!

Next time we will try a new format!

Because we are pressed for time these days (who isn't?) and because we'd like to try taking some of the suggestions of our listenership, next episode (which will be The Vicsim Report part 2 — "reflecting on" the Vicsim Report) we will take a quick ponder on the best points of the vicsim research and then share some of our challenges and provide suggestions in helping people understand these points.
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Re: The Clues Chronicle — help decide the threads to read!

Postby Flabbergasted on July 26th, 2018, 4:34 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:We talk about how the ALCON 2018 event went for the TYCHOS model (for about 30 minutes)

Thanks for the update on the ALCON event. The Tychos topic is a lot more "palatable" to the general public than anything involving psyops and vicsims. I have experienced no adverse reactions from conversation partners so far, although, to be fair, many people don´t know enough about the solar system or Newton or the workings of establishment science to be surprised.

hoi.polloi wrote:Next time we will try a new format!

Because we are pressed for time these days (who isn't?) and because we'd like to try taking some of the suggestions of our listenership, next episode (which will be The Vicsim Report part 2 — "reflecting on" the Vicsim Report) we will take a quick ponder on the best points of the vicsim research and then share some of our challenges and provide suggestions in helping people understand these points.

Sounds great. Looking forward to it.
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