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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby jumpy64 on November 20th, 2015, 12:22 pm

ICfreely, your latest post here would hit the nail right on the head, if it wasn't for at least a single, questionable line.

You're right about the Golden Rule, in all its variations, being the common denominator amongst practically all organized religions. But are you sure it applies also to Judaism? To the Torah, maybe, but certainly not to the Talmud.

In fact, it seems to me that, referring to the phrase I find questionable in your post, what the Talmud says could be summarized as "Whatever thou hatest thyself, that do not to another... of your own race (or cultural/religious group). But yes, by all means, do it to all others, i.e. the Goyim or Gentiles".

I'm not sure about the Islamic religion, which is also influenced by a certain "ingroup Vs. outgroup" mentality, although probably a milder one. I haven't studied it, though, because I'm not a scholar of comparative religion. I was born into Christianity (catholicism, to be exact), and over the years I've been attracted, for spiritual reasons, by other religions you mention, like Buddhism and Taoism.

The reason why I've started studying Judaism, a religion I've never had any spiritual interest for, is just because I discovered the disproportionate power of JPMs in our society and I wanted to understand their mindset and its practical consequences in the world, through media fakery and other pernicious phenomena.

That's exactly why I started "a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews".

So thank you for giving me the opportunity to spell it out.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on November 20th, 2015, 2:35 pm

jumpy64 wrote:You're right about the Golden Rule, in all its variations, being the common denominator amongst practically all organized religions. But are you sure it applies also to Judaism? To the Torah, maybe, but certainly not to the Talmud.

It applies to the Torah exoterically only! It most certainly doesn't apply to any excerpts of the Talmud that I've read.

jumpy64 wrote:In fact, it seems to me that, referring to the phrase I find questionable in your post, what the Talmud says could be summarized as "Whatever thou hatest thyself, that do not to another... of your own race (or cultural/religious group). But yes, by all means, do it to all others, i.e. the Goyim or Gentiles".

Let me put it this way jumpy, I'm all for cultural, religious and national identity/kinship and whatnot but I revile supremacism/Darwinism of any sort. It's a direct violation of thr Golden Rule.

Supremacism is the worldview that a particular age, race, species, ethnic group, religion, gender, social class, belief system, or culture is superior to other variations of that trait, and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control, or exploit those who do not.

Here's a wiki link addressing Jewish supremacism:

Some academics and writers allege Jewish supremacism, often in relation to Israel and Zionism. Author Minna Rozen writes that 17th century Jews who lived in Jerusalem were supremacist in their views that they were superior over other Jews. Ilan Pappé, an Israeli historian, writes that the First Aliyah to Israel "established a society based on Jewish supremacy." Joseph Massad, a Professor of Arab Studies, holds that "Jewish supremacism" always has been a "dominating principle" in religious and secular Zionism. Kevin B. MacDonald, known for his theory of Judaism as a "group evolutionary strategy", has been accused by the ADL and his own university psychology department of being "antisemitic" and white supremacist in his writings on the subject. However, prominent rabbis have, in fact, explicitly made claims regarding purported Jewish superiority.

Zoroastrianism, an early monotheistic faith that influenced Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, originated among a people who called themselves Aryans, including the Persians. Friedrich Nietzsche's writings, such as Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Zarathustra being another name for Zoroaster), were interpreted by Nazis as a foundation for their ideas of the Aryan Übermensch and white supremacism. The Nazis also appropriated the Zoroastrian symbol of the faravahar.

I think the Abrahamic religions, in addition to most organized religions, are controlled/manipulated by Judaism which in turn is controlled/manipulated by the 'learned' elders of Zion.

jumpy64 wrote:I'm not sure about the Islamic religion, which is also influenced by a certain "ingroup Vs. outgroup" mentality, although probably a milder one. I haven't studied it, though, because I'm not a scholar of comparative religion. I was born into Christianity (catholicism, to be exact), and over the years I've been attracted, for spiritual reasons, by other religions you mention, like Buddhism and Taoism.

Every group, by definition, is influenced by a certain "ingroup Vs. outgroup" mentality which can be radicalized periodically. At the exoteric level all religions are appealing. Think of it this way, In order to get a rat to eat poison you must dilute it in something appealing (seemingly good). The poison is the esoteric agenda of the apex of the group.

jumpy64 wrote:The reason why I've started studying Judaism, a religion I've never had any spiritual interest for, is just because I discovered the disproportionate power of JPMs in our society and I wanted to understand their mindset.

I don't think the JPM's have any spiritual interest in Judaism either. The only god they trust in is the green one they create out of thin air. Sociopaths! As for the Jewish people I've personally interacted with, they've run the gamut from very nice to complete assholes.

jumpy64 wrote:That's exactly why I started "a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews".

So thank you for giving me the opportunity to spell it out.

The Torah is a collection/consolidation of multiple belief systems and sacred texts. It's a perpetual myth making machine.

The commonality of religious teachings derives from many sources. One is the common experiences and (literally) world shaking events which have molded our consciousnesses. Whether it is the creation of the world itself, a Great Flood/Deluge, or an event which allows a massive exodus of a subjugated people from a powerful overlord, these are the paradigm shaking moments which must be accounted for in any religion.

A second reason for the commonality of religions is that the ancients did a lot of copying of others works. Bernstein [3], for example has written: “When Moses led the Israelites out of the land of bondage, he carried with him the mysteries of Egyptian knowledge acquired by Moses himself at the court of the Pharaoh.” The Hebrews also took much of the knowledge of creation from the Babylonians, who had in turn learned their lessons from the Sumerians. The Jewish Kaballah (aka Ha Qabala) is replicated in large part by the Christian Caballah, and the ecumenical Qaballah, and all may very well have originated from the Sumerians’ “Table of Destiny”.

As Mark Twain has observed: “The ancients have stolen all our really good, new ideas.”

Differences in Religion are purely in the details and the facades we place around our core beliefs in order to appear unique. On the one hand, religion’s exoteric doctrines (“for the many”) designed for the common man contains all manner of interesting and original notions of what’s important (i.e. “full of sound and fury and signifying nothing”). On the other hand, the esoteric doctrines (“for the few”) are where the real meat is, and is limited to those willing to make the effort to pursue the higher truths of life. And the esoteric portions are also the connecting links of commonality of all viable religions.

At the most fundamental level, all religions are pretty much the same. They are, after all, talking about the same Universal Creator, the same history of Earth (however much we argue about the sequence and dating of events), and the same humanoids, extraterrestrials, and interdimensional beings running amuck on the planet’s surface and surrounding space.

Everything is connected, everything is one. But everything is also disguised in order to make it interesting in finding out how everything is one and connected.

Dan Sewell Ward seems to be an intelligent and open-minded person. He’s also a physicist who happens to believe that ancient aliens created us in their own image (crossing their DNA with primates) which explains the ‘missing link’ in the evolution of Homo sp. ( à la Zecharia Sitchin et al. :rolleyes: ). With regards to mainstream science he's either 'in on it' or has 'bought into it' or a combination of both.

The power of fakery (journalistic/academic) is highly underestimated. Belief in the big bang, evolution, heliocentricity (which are continually reinforced) fundamentally limits and skews our depth/breadth of thought. Scientism, in essence, is a deliberate dumbing down and consolidation of multiple belief systems – a continuation of Sumerian swindle. The ‘full spectrum dominance’ (anti-Scientism <- -> anti-Semitism) of the Torah’s esoteric doctrines, IMO, fundamentally distinguishes it from other ‘sacred texts.’

Torah – Age of Taurus (Bull)
New Testament – Age of Pisces (Fish)
Scientism – Age of Aquarius (Water)*

*It’s important to note that during the European so called ‘Dark Ages’ the Islamic world was reaching the heights of its own ‘Scientific Enlightenment.’ For every European science god/polymath there’s a corollary Persian/Arab/Muslim science god as if to lend legitimacy (similar to Greek psi-gods).
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby fubarfuthark on February 29th, 2016, 11:09 am

I remember once, when I was at the stage of thinking to myself 'no, this cannot be true' (i still am rather) going onto the ADL website and downloading their pdf about the talmud and the accusations concerning it. In the document you can find a section about 'goyim' and a discussion about 'NO, it does not mean cattle, it means NATIONS' like 'abraham, father of many nations' (which in the hebrew bible IS actually written as Goyim). For a little while afterwards I nursed the idea that a sort of semantic reversal was in play there, whereby 'nations' when it occurs in our world actually means 'gojim' rather than the other way around. That is to say 'national curriculum', or 'national insurance' or 'national health service', 'national guard' or indeed 'nationalism' per se and the associated 'national anthem'. Then i remember being in NCP, 'national car parks' in ol' GB and started to get the giggles, imagining the existence of some other 'kosher' car parks where one parks one's vehicle to the sound of whooping clarinets and mournful violin doinas.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on February 29th, 2016, 6:50 pm

I’m adding the following excerpts on Universal Kabbalism (‘Yoga of the West’) as an addendum to my preceding post. Others may disagree but I think the average Jew is as brainwashed & misled as the average Gentile.

Blessed is he who can get past the scapegoater/apologetic mindset!

by Verla Wade

The Kabbalah (also spelled Qabalah or Cabala) is an ancient mystical tradition, which is most commonly credited to the Hebrews. The Universal Kabbalah, on the other hand has been passed down orally through the mystery school tradition since the beginning of time, and it is free of all religious dogma. As with all mystical traditions, the purpose of the Kabbalah itself is to provide humankind with an experience of God, as well as a Path of Return.

The word itself, KBL, means “to receive.” A key feature of the Kabbalah is a glyph (or map) called the Tree of Life. Images of the Tree date back to 1300 BC and can be found among the Phoenician archives. Use of the Kabbalah became popular from AD 600-1400. Among the users were Hebrew, Christian, and occult Kabbalists.

Kabbalism transcends Judaism!

From AD 1500-1900, the Kabbalah experienced a decline in interest as scientific studies came to the forefront and religious beliefs were limited.

In other words, the Hebrew (religious) Kabbalah was supplanted by the Universal (‘non’-religious) Kabbalah during the European Age of Enlightenment.

Einstein’s Annus mirabilis
The Flexner report & the establishment of the FDA
The Establishment of the Federal Reserve & IRS
The celebration of Halloween instead of All Saints Day

However, around the turn of the century, a time when the energies of the Aquarian Age began to be felt, the Kabbalah experienced a revival, with many of its documents translated into English for the first time.

The Fifth Dimension - Aquarius - Let The Sunshine In

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPK7ZF6jfJE

Kabbalah has re-surfaced many times throughout history and has influenced every Golden Age in the evolution of humanity. So what might that tell us about its most recent revival in the new millennium? Perhaps we are on the verge of the next Golden Age!

In the Kabbalah, the unknowable aspect of God is referred to as the En Soph. En Soph is an endless, boundless being that cannot be comprehended and precedes our creation.

The universe is the garment in which En Soph manifests itself. The garment is called the Sephiroth. These are the vessels that act as the medium between the En Soph and humans, or physicality. There are ten in number. The Sephiroth are referred to as intelligences, radiations, emanations, principles, and powers, and are each an aspect of God. In their totality, they are called the Sephiroth on Tree of Life. This glyph composed of the ten Sephiroth is central to modern Kabalistic thought.

THE ORIGIN. The story involving the origin of Kabbalah is that it was a secret science taught by God to a select company of angels, before the creation of the universe. After Adam and Eve left the Garden of Eden, the angels gave it to them so humans would never be without a map to return Home. From Adam it passed to Noah, and then to Abraham, who passed it on to Isaac and Jacob, which is how it came to Egypt. While in Egypt, portions of the Kabbalistic doctrine emerged, and thus the Egyptians obtained some knowledge of it. As a result, the other eastern nations began to introduce it into their philosophical systems. Moses was first initiated into Kabbalah in the land of his birth, and then educated in all the wisdom of Egypt, used the wisdom of Kabbalah proficiently to solve the difficulties which arose during his management of the Israelites during their 40 years in the desert. When Moses spent the 40 days and nights on Mount Sinai, he most likely received much more than the 10 Commandments! In fact he was instructed to share the secrets only with his brother Aaron and the future High Priests of the Hebrews. And thus, the mystical secrets of the Kabbalah were retained for 100’s of years. It is said that Moses also initiated 70 elders into the secrets of this doctrine, who transmitted these mysteries through the oral tradition. Of all who formed this unbroken line of tradition, King David and King Solomon were most initiated into the Kabbalah.

Kabbalah has always been a system that explains the entire universe and its formation as well as the individual [Theory of Everything]. In fact most recently, it has been aptly termed an Instruction Manual for Life. Kabbalah teaches us how to become a co-creator with God, in our own lives, helping us awaken our inner power to change the world we live in. In doing this, we achieve our full potential so that we can create Heaven on Earth – a central theme in the Kabalistic teachings.

The Universal Kabbalah is often referred to as the “yoga of the West”. This refers to the fact that it is particularly well-suited to bring illumination to the westerner’s mind (who finds it difficult to go into a state of “no mind” or “empty mind”). In fact, it is the fastest way for westerners to achieve enlightenment, as it does not require one going off to a cave or monastery. Rather, it encourages being in the world and provides tools for working in that environment. We can be Spiritual in the world; in fact we are supposed to be.

One of the many ways that Kabbalah does this is that it appeases the rational mind, while it awakens intuition and creativity, which leads to greater whole-brain processing. This results in a huge expansion of consciousness and awareness. As a result, our minds are organized (or re-organized) to become more efficient at processing the over 360,000 functions they monitor every minute!

The Tree of Life is the actual blueprint of who we are as humans. When we know how to penetrate and read its hidden wisdom, the Tree is the glyph of our DNA [ :rolleyes: ], as well as the creation of the whole universe. As you work with the Universal Kabbalah, integrating it into your life, the Tree starts to become awakened and alive within you, providing you with a map to both inner and outer treasures of self-knowledge and understanding on all levels – physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. As a result you will learn how to ask the right questions and receive the answers to the most important questions of life:
 Who Am I?
 What Am I?
 Where did I come from?
 Where am I going?
 What is my purpose in life?

The ancient oracle of Apollo at Delphi said Know Thyself, the same advice we find inscribed over key initiatory gates throughout the world. Most people live their entire lives with only a fraction of this knowledge. The Universal Kabbalah and the Tree of Life will reveal itself to you in such a way that you will know yourself on all levels. As a result you will become a co-creator of your life, having more of what is truly important to you – whatever it is – including more joy, happiness, clarity, fulfillment, abundance.

Kabbalah teaches that the Universe came forth out of Nothingness – physics has named the point of expansion from nothing into something the ‘Big Bang’. Kabbalah has stated for thousands of years that as the originating energy came into being, it underwent ten stages of manifestation – nine stages of compacting, condensing and channeling the divine energy to manifest all matter and life upon the earth into the physical as it completed the tenth stage. This process of coming into the material is referred to as The Path of the Flaming Sword.

We are born into duality and for the most part, the educational system ignores our spiritual nature. We are taught to exercise the muscles of the mind, and to ignore our senses. After years of following the prescribed patterns of success, climbing the ladders, investing in materialism for happiness, we are waking up knowing that there has to be more – that this is not all there is. And we start searching. We seem to have lost the real instruction manual for life!

For thousands of years, the Universal Kabbalah has provided a pathway for freeing the soul and transforming people’s lives. It provides a workable, step by step curriculum for transformation. Pieces of this can be found in many places, but it has never been published in one work. To this day it remains a tradition that is handed down orally from teacher to student. The entirety cannot be given in book format, because each person has their own unique integration and healing on the path.

The Universal Kabbalah provides a system for recovering our true empowerment, freedom, and divinity. The Tree of Life provides the ladder, or map of understanding and attainment. It shows the structure, dynamics, and function of the universe, as well as offers us the opportunity to awaken and overcome the obstacles in our lives; freeing us to be our authentic selves. It does this by bringing the unconscious to consciousness, thereby opening us to higher levels of awareness. As we become more aware, we can connect with and harness levels of universal energies, and direct them to achieve fulfillment, purpose, and enlightenment. In other words, the Kabalistic system show shows us how to ascend, achieve contact with the Divine, and bring\“heaven” down to earth, living divinely, fulfilling our destiny.

Geometrically, these initial stages of creation are represented by nothing (En Sof), the empty/black point (Shekinah), the full/white point (Kether), the line (Chokmah), and the triangle (Binah). Thus Binah is also the foundation of the entire Supernal Triad, whereas Kether is its root/source, and Chokmah its life force, and En Sof is the unseen/unknowable essence that flows through all of it. The triangle is the first form created and thus it is the primary key to the powers of heaven (the square and circle being the other two keys).

The supernals are in a realm that is beyond the human mind, thus any discussion of them can only be limited to metaphors and symbolic language. And because they are all just three aspects of a unity, it is difficult to say anything about any one of them alone. To say anything at all is to define, separate, and limit, thus not a true representation of the supernals. And yet, often in books these are the three parts of the Tree that are given the most attention – perhaps because they are the furthest from what we are acquainted with and hence the most mysterious and alluring. But truly, the only way to come to know and understand the supernal realm is through direct experience, which is the purpose of the ascension up the Tree of Life, which culminates in the crossing of the Abyss. This ascension brings one the vision of seeing God “face-to-face” – the inner and outer God. This experience may only be a momentary glimpse, but even that is enough to change your life, and it will give you the experience through which wisdom and divine light may illuminate your entire being.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby fubarfuthark on February 29th, 2016, 8:03 pm

'I’m adding the following excerpts on Universal Kabbalism (‘Yoga of the West’) as an addendum to my preceding post. Others may disagree but I think the average Jew is as brainwashed & misled as the average Gentile.'

I am totally with you on this, notwithstanding that nearly every culture has or had its own version of Jacobs ladder/combinatoric letter mysticism, I also think that any 'knowledge' about this topic tends to force one into another dichotomy of, as you put it, scapegoat or apologia.

Or to look at it another way; is it even thinkable that someone like, say, Eyal Berkovic the ex footballer and now commentator, who according to an Israeli friend of mine is a total dimwit, has access to privileged epistemological information about the nature of reality, the secrets about what is and is not real within science/politics/history...might he not have blurted out something incongruous to one of his west ham team mates? 'You know what John Hartson, you might be scoring all the goals, but you dont know the secrets of the federal reserve or the true shape of the earth'...

The whole thing implies a division of knowledge-labour and hierarchical organisation that would be quite ludicrous, if not downright impossible and, as you say, would necessitate a level of brainwashing that is not really comprehensible to me. That is not to say there aint some seriously funky shit going on.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby fubarfuthark on March 2nd, 2016, 12:40 pm

speaking of the supernal triad, as you did (the shin, aleph and mem) which form 'shem' as in bal shem tov, does anyone else think that the 'shin' looks a lot like the logo of the USB connector? (ktav script)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash ... ontroversy

It is also a definite Psi, trident (just like the wonderful nuclear defence submarines of our wonderful British government).
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby Critical Mass on March 2nd, 2016, 6:26 pm

ICfreely wrote:Others may disagree but I think the average Jew is as brainwashed & misled as the average Gentile.

I think we can safely say that is extremely likely... heck we've, in recent months, even seen Jewish members of Cluesforum (!) show absolutely no scepticism towards the numerous absurdities of the Holocaust story that we've all been told (we've also, quite incredibly, seen gentile members try & promote "Jewish" & "white" supremacist beliefs with a similar lack of scepticism).

That is some pretty impressive brainwashing!

I recently stated to a Physicist friend of mine that he & his undoubtedly Scientific work (basically just coming up with engineering improvements on infra red lasers... like the ones used on remote controls across the world) help provide cover for the "scientists" discussed on Cluesforum.

Your average scientist working, say, in a micro-lab & counting colonies on a Petri-dish have NOTHING to do with the "scientists" supposedly detonating multi-megaton devices on the other side of the planet decades ago. Yet the terms are deliberately mingled so as to cause confusion.

This is not unusual in the scam world... for instance one goes to a bank to "borrow" money & take out "a loan" following a promise to "pay back", with interest, this "service".

Of course, in reality, nothing has been "borrowed" or "lent". It is a lie in which language has been used against the average Joe... even the MSM admit this now to some degree.

An obvious "CONspiracy" and one which, presumably any day now if "Scientists" like Grimes are to believed, will soon collapse due to an "internal leak" :rolleyes: .

Simon has come up with the term JPM to help try & eliminate some of this cover.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on March 2nd, 2016, 10:22 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how little Westerners (especially Jewish Westerners) know about Judaism. I must admit that if my knowledge of Jews was limited to books/documentaries I would most likely have a very negative impression of them. For that reason I kind of get where Jumpy was coming from. The thing is I've studied, worked and socialized with them my whole life. They're just as susceptible to group-think as anyone else.

They're also extremely diverse (ideologically/philosophically). No offence meant to other Jews but the real/original Jews are the Iranian Jews. Judaism originated in Iran. Iranian Jews have a 3000+ year history there. Moreover, they've never been kicked out of Iran. They have an 'Iranian (Aryan) first, Jewish second' mentality. There's a genuine bond between Iranian Jews & Gentiles within Iran as well as Iranian expat communities around the world.

Despite these facts, just the mention of 'Iran' to the average Western Jew strikes fear in their heart! :o

If only they knew...

I've been meaning to post a 'case study' of the similarities of the Armenian/Jewish holocausts. My premise is that both groups have bought into a false and self-defeating 'perennial victim' mentality.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on March 13th, 2016, 7:07 am

I reiterate that everyone (especially Jews) should familiarize themselves with the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. I don't believe it's a Jewish conspiracy. In other words, I don't think all Jews are in on it. How can they be? I can't say the same for JPM's and their Masonic lackeys. The Iranian revolution is a classic case study of how the learned elders topple Kingdoms.

Decadence and Downfall: The Shah of Iran's Ultimate Party - BBC Documentary

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36jSegtVfY

God Almighty sent Moses to Destroy the Kings who blasphemed and strayed from the righteous path and showed us that we have to enter into government and politics and topple all the Kings of our age. If we are decisive, we will be successful. The hand of God is with Muslims who are united and speak as one. Foreign leaders and Kings eat like vultures and beasts. They will burn in hell.

Excerpts from the P.L.E.Z.

Pg 30
The constitution scales of these days will shortly break down, for we have established them with a certain lack of accurate balance in order that they may oscillate incessantly until they wear through the pivot on which they turn. The goyim are under the impression that they have welded them sufficiently strong and they have all along kept on expecting that the scales would come into equilibrium. But the pivots -- the kings on their thrones -- are hemmed in by their representatives, who play the fool, distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power. This power they owe to the terror which has been breathed into the palaces. As they have no means of getting at their people, into their very midst, the kings on their thrones are no longer able to come to terms with them and so strengthen themselves against seekers after power. We have made a gulf between the far-seeing Sovereign Power and the blind force of the people so that both have lost all meaning, for like the blind man and his stick, both are powerless apart.

Pg 36
In the times when the peoples looked upon kings on their thrones as on a pure manifestation of the will of God, they submitted without a murmur to the despotic power of kings: but from the day when we insinuated into their minds the conception of their own rights they began to regard the occupants of thrones as mere ordinary mortals. The holy unction of the Lord's Anointed has fallen from the heads of kings in the eye of the people, and when we also robbed them of their faith in God the might of power was flung upon the streets into the place of public proprietorship and was seized by us.

Pg 37
"Per Me reges regnant". ("It is through me that Kings reign.") And it was said by the prophets that we were chosen by God Himself to rule over the whole earth. God has endowed us with genius that we may be equal to our task. Were genius in the opposite camp it would still struggle against us, but even so a newcomer is no match for the old-established settler; the struggle would be merciless between us, such a fight as the world has never yet seen. Aye, and the genius on their side would have arrived too late. All the wheels of the machinery of all States go by the force of the engine, which is in our hands, and that engine of the machinery of States is Gold. The science of political economy invented by our learned elders has for long past been giving royal prestige to capital.

Pg 44
We might have reason to apprehend a union between the "clear-sighted" force of the goy kings on their thrones and the "blind" force of the goy mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a mutual terror between them. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

Pg 52
We shall deal with the press in the following way: What is the part played by the press today? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves.

Pg 71-72
As the majority of conspirators act out of love for the game, for the sake of talking, so, until they commit some overt act we shall not lay a finger on them but only introduce into their midst observation elements. . . It must be remembered that the prestige of authority is lessened if it frequently discovers conspiracies against itself: this implies a presumption of consciousness of weakness, or, what is still worse, of injustice.
You are aware that we have broken the prestige of the goy kings by frequent attempts upon their lives through our agents, blind sheep of our flock, who are easily moved by a few liberal phrases to crimes provided only they be painted in political colours. We have compelled the rulers to acknowledge their weakness in advertising overt measures of secret defence and thereby we shall bring the promise of authority to destruction.


Blind sheep of our flock?

Anyhow, here's a partial list of monarchs who lost their thrones in the 20th century.

1910 – Korea - Emperor Sunjong abdicated in 1910 by the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty.
1915 – Poland - The portion of Poland formerly ruled by Russia was occupied by Germany and Austria in 1915 and proclaimed an independent kingdom in 1916. Archduke Charles Stephen of Austria was named King-elect, but the nation was declared a republic without ever actually having had a King in the 20th century.
1917 – Russia - The monarchy was abolished and replaced by a Provisional Government which was in turn overthrown months later by Lenin, which would by 1922 become the Soviet Union.
1918 – Austria-Hungary - Emperor-King Charles I & IV was deposed in 1918
1918 – Lithuania - Designated King-elect Mindaugas II (Wilhelm Karl, Duke of Urach), was deposed following the end of World War I
1922 – Turkey - Sultan Mehmed VI was deposed following collapse of Ottoman Empire in 1922
1925 – Albania - Prince William fled Albania in 1914 following the outbreak of World War I (he was formally deposed in 1925).
1939 – Albania (kingdom) - King Zog I (president turned monarch) was deposed by Italy under Benito Mussolini
1943 – Macedonia - Voivode Julius I was deposed in 1943, after German occupation.
1943 – Croatia - Designated King Tomislav II (Prince Aimone, Duke of Spoleto) of the Independent State of Croatia abdicated in 1943 after the Italian capitulation
1944 – Iceland - King Christian X of Denmark ceased to be King of Iceland in 1944 when the country became a republic by referendum and which terminated the Personal Union with Denmark.
1945 – Vietnam - Emperor Bao Dai abdicated in 1945 when communists, called Viet Minh, seized control of the nation.
1945 – Yugoslavia - King Peter II was deposed by Axis powers in 1941 and by Josip Broz Tito in 1943 (deposition formalized in 1945).
1946 – Bulgaria - Tsar Simeon II never abdicated but was exiled by the Bulgarian government following a national referendum in 1946 after which Bulgaria became a People's Republic.
1946 - Hungary- Hungary was proclaimed a republic by the National Assembly on 1 February 1946. Regent Miklós Horthy was deposed in 1944 by Adolf Hitler.
1946 – Italy - King Umberto II was deposed by a referendum abolishing the monarchy in 1946.
1947 – Romania - King Michael I was removed as King in favour of his father Carol II in 1930. He returned to the throne in 1940, but was forced to abdicate in 1947 by the communist government.
1949 – Ireland - This situation came to an end in 1949 when the Republic of Ireland Act came into force, stripping the King of his role in foreign affairs and making the President of Ireland de jure and de facto head of state.
1955 – Morocco - Sultan Mohammed Ben Aarafa abdicated in 1955.
1958 – Iraq - King Faisal II was deposed and murdered in a military coup d'état
1967 – Greece - King Constantine II was exiled in 1967 and was deposed by a referendum abolishing monarchy in 1973 (both events under dictatorial rule), during democratic rule the referendum was repeated in 1974, and the monarchy was abolished.
1969 – Libya - King Idris I was deposed in a coup led by Muammar Gaddafi on 1 September 1969 a day before his abdication was due to take effect.
1973 – Afghanistan - King Mohammed Zahir Shah was deposed in coup
1979 – Iran - Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was deposed by revolution


In short, most of the world's monarchies were abolished during WWI, WWII and the Cold War - as predicted by the Protocols.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby bostonterrierowner on March 13th, 2016, 2:34 pm


"The protocols" are just "Sun-Tzu the art of war" reedited. period!

"Sunt-Tzu" first brought to Europe by the French Jesuits in 18th century, "The protocols" spawned also by the Jesuits in the beginning of 20th century allegedly on personal order of Supreme General Leduchowski.

Funny thing this Jesuit-"Jew"-Jesuit reciprocity . Jesuits act, "Jews" take a blame :)

IXXI/full spectrum dominance, permanent psyopera and all roads lead to "Rome" !
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby Flabbergasted on March 13th, 2016, 4:04 pm

bostonterrierowner wrote:Funny thing this Jesuit-"Jew"-Jesuit reciprocity . Jesuits act, "Jews" take a blame [...] all roads lead to "Rome"!

Then perhaps you could explain why we are encouraged to bash, vilify, slander and expose the crimes of Jesuits and Catholic prelates all the way up to "Hitler´s Pope", with the blessings of the media and assorted celebrity intellectuals, but are at risk of boycott, fines and imprisonment if we denounce the Jews or question the Holocaust myth.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on March 13th, 2016, 4:50 pm

"There is no proletarian movement, not even a Communist one, which does not operate in the interest of money, in the direction indicated by money and for the period permitted by money, and all this without the idealist in its ranks having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
--Oswald Spengler

I’m posting the following excerpts in order to provide a very brief and cursory overview of some of the more notable events that lead to the downfall of the Iranian Monarchy.

History of the Jews in Iran - The Second Temple period
The Pahlavi dynasty implemented modernizing reforms, which greatly improved the life of Jews. The influence of the Shi'a clergy was weakened, and the restrictions on Jews and other religious minorities were abolished. Reza Shah prohibited mass conversion of Jews and eliminated the Shi'ite concept of ritual uncleanness of non-Muslims. Modern Hebrew was incorporated into the curriculum of Jewish schools and Jewish newspapers were published. Jews were also allowed to hold government jobs. In 1915 two Jewish brothers, Mordechai and Asher ben Avaraham, opened the first Jewish newspaper called "Shalom". These changes moved the balance of power in the Jewish community from elders and Rabbis to the youth. Establishment of Zionist Organization of Persia further accelerated this transfer of power to the young Jews. The Jews of Persia understood that "Zion" is the biblical name of Jerusalem and Zionism demonstrates that end of exile and the beginning of redemption. The Persian Zionist Aziz ben Yona Naim wrote in early 1920s :"Zionism is nothing but a new name and new institution, for the Zionist idea has been present in Jewish thought for over two thousands years."

However this Zionist awakening led to bitter rivalry between two leaders of Jewish community: Loqman Nehourai and Shmuel Hayyim. Furthermore, even though Reza Shah was sympathetic to the Jews in the beginning, he became distrusted of Jewish movements with the growth of Zionism. Reza Shah sought to unite the different ethnic groups in Iran under the flag of nationalism. His main purpose was to fight communism but he distrusted the zionism as well. Shah did not like the growing connection between European Jewry and Persian Jews. He further arrested Shmuel Hayyim and had him executed in 1931 under the charges of conspiracy to murder the Shah and change the form of government from constitutional monarchy to a republic.

'Aryan', from the Aryan race

In 1833, an Oxford University professor used the term Aryan to describe a group of languages with common origins. Although he later admitted that parts of his theory were erroneous, the theory of an Aryan race was used by a group of romanticist writers and western historians in quest for an ancient identity.

The Germans, eyeing vast expanses of land in Central Asia, called themselves Aryans and cried for a return to the homeland. They used the Swastika, which, as a "wheel of Mithra (Sun/Fire)" used to be the arm of the Iranians since ancient times, as a Nazi symbol, to have an alibi to invade Russia.

The French, British, Russians and recently Americans found different reasons to call themselves Aryans.

The first Pahlavi era and Nazi Germany
The Shah went on to ask the international community to use the native name of "Iran" in 1935 to address to his country, which in Persian means 'Land of the Aryans' and refers to Airyanem Vaejah, the Avestan name of the original homeland of the Aryans. Although the country has been known as Iran to the native people themselves for many centuries, Westerners came to know the nation as Persia through Ancient Greek accounts. Iranians were immune to the racial Nuremberg Laws on the grounds that they were said to be deemed "Aryans". In 1939, Nazi Germany provided Iran with what they called a Germany Scientific Library. The library contained over 7500 books selected "to convince Iranian readers ... of the kinship between the National Socialist Reich and the Aryan culture of Iran". In various pro-Nazi publications, lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the Führerprinzip.

From 1939 to 1941 Iran's top foreign trade partner (nearly 50% of its total trade) was Germany, which helped Iran open modern sea and air communications with the rest of the world.[11]

In 1941, the Allies forced Reza Shah to abdicate the throne to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

The Formation of the Tudeh Party of Iran
Following the collapse of Reza Shah's regime, with the new conditions prevailing, a large group of political prisoners were released. These included Dr. Arani's group (known as the Group of 53) who adhered to the communist ideology. The first foundation stones of the Tudeh Party of Iran were laid by these communists. On 29 September 1941, the founding conference of the TPI was held in Tehran under the chairmanship of Soleiman Mohsen Eskandari. Later the Tudeh Party of Iran turned into a significant and influential political force.

In order to fight the growing racial antisemitism among the Iranian population, many Jews joined the Tudeh party and advocated for communism. Even though Jews comprised less than 2 percent of Iranian population, almost fifty percent of the members of the Tudeh party were Jewish. Tudeh party was the only party among the Iranian political parties that accepted Jews with open arms. Most writers for publications of the Tudeh party were Jewish. Furthermore, many Iranian Jews viewed communism as a Jewish movement since many leading members of the communist revolution in Russia were Jewish and were looked upon favorably by Persian Jews.

The reign of shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi after the deposition of Mossadegh in 1953, was the most prosperous era for the Jews of Iran. In the 1970s, only 10 percent of Iranian Jews were classified as impoverished; 80 percent were middle class and 10 percent wealthy. Although Jews accounted for only a small percentage of Iran's population, in 1979 two of the 18 members of the Iranian Academy of Sciences, 80 of the 4,000 university lecturers, and 600 of the 10,000 physicians in Iran were Jews.[68] An important factor in economic improvement of the Jews was close relations between the Shah and the state of Israel. Details of this connection and how the condition of Iranian Jews improved dramatically in a few short years still awaits rigorous exploration.

Iran: Some Angles on the Islamic Revolution
The reality, however, was very different, for what looked so like an America-Israeli alliance was in fact only the picture presented by an altogether different imperialism which had come into existence, displacing and replacing all the separate national imperialisms. What began quite early in the present century, and proceeded at a much accelerated pace after the end of World War II, was the progressive dismantling of all the separate national imperialisms, including the American, and their absorption into something unprecedented in recorded history -- a global financial imperialism.

There can be no doubt that a major factor in bringing about this change in the realm of high finance was the long-continued existence within the different nations of Europe of Jewish banking families or dynasties which had always specialized in transnational operations. [15] The story of how these financial dynasties consolidated their power on an international basis is explained at some length by Prof. Carroll Quigley in his 1300-page "History of the World in Our Time," Tragedy and Hope.

It all began with what Quigley called "the third stage in the development of capitalism ... of overwhelming significance in the history of the 20th century, and its ramifications and influences subterranean and even occult." He adds:
"Essentially what it did was to take the old disorganized and localized methods of handling money and credit and organize them on an international basis."
In fact, American and Israeli influence were at all times inseparable. Prof. Algar says that after the coup of 1953, which ousted Mussadeq, there was cooperation at all levels, especially in intelligence and security work. He adds:
"After a certain point it appears that the task of staffing the Savak was taken over by Mossad, the Israeli security, from the CIA although the CIA always retained the right of supervision over the operations of Savak. I know of many people who report having been interrogated and tortured by Israelis while in the custody of Savak."[29]

The first step was to make Israel virtually synonymous with America in terms of foreign support in all fields, and then, by steady progression, provide the shah with a means of suppressing all internal opposition. In fact, the shah's security forces were virtually taken over by the Israelis and reinforced with non-Islamic personnel, largely recruited from non-Muslim population elements, especially the Bahais, largely people of Jewish descent no longer practicing the Jewish religion. This gave the shah an instrument which could be used with the utmost ruthlessness against the population and against the religious class in particular.

Shah's Reforms (White Revolution)
The Shah's regime implemented a set of reforms from above under the name of the white Revolution, a major part of which was on land reform. In addition, an important aim of the reforms was to uproot the obsolete feudal system and transform Iranian society to a modern society. The Tudeh opposed these reforms in an article in its central organ dated 20 February 1963.

One of the most important characteristics of this period was the re-appearance of the religious movement against the Shah's regime. The religious movement which had lost all credibility and influence after Ayatollah Kashani's betrayal of the popular government of Dr. Mosaddeq in favour of Shah in the coup of 1953, surfaced once again, this time in opposition to the Shah. The religious leaders entered the arena of anti-Shah struggle because they feared losing their social base as a result of the reforms made by the Shah which threatened the feudal system and "Westernised" Iranian society. The clergy using the religious sentiments of the people and their network organised large demonstrations in Tehran and Qom on 6 June 1961. The demonstrations were suppressed by the army. A large number of demonstrators were killed.

The Guerrilla Movement
It was less than a month after the demonstration in Qom, when the people of Tabriz stormed the streets and challenged the Shah. Meanwhile the Tudeh Party of Iran and its underground organisation, "Navid" started to recruit the young people and organize its regional committees.

The people armed struggle and resistance on 8th, 9th and 10th of Feb. inflicted the decisive and final blow to the regime of the Shah and put an end to the 2500 years of monarchy in Iran.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/tude ... arty03.php[/url]

Iran, the Revolution and the Language of War
Suppression of liberals and others on the Left, like the Tudeh (party of the masses), had gone on under the monarchy in Iran. Tudeh supported the 1979 revolution while others on the Left opposed it. However, the alliance between the Tudeh Party and Iran’s emergent ruling clergy collapsed in the early 1980s. Then it was back to the past. For the leader of the revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the United States was the “Great Satan,” and Iran had to follow a course that was neither East (meaning Russia) nor West. America was held responsible for what went wrong in Iran in the decades before the overthrow of the Shah. And the fact about the Soviets having invaded Iran could not be forgotten.

This hell's kitchen of secrecy and intrigue outside Iran had its equivalent inside the country. In the aftermath of the. revolution all the Freemasonry lodges in Iran were closed and their archives seized, confirming what many had suspected. Many of them were controlled by Jews or Bahais of Jewish origin, providing another channel of secret communication with Israel and Zionism in general.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby JLapage on March 13th, 2016, 8:54 pm

ICfreely wrote:I reiterate that everyone (especially Jews) should familiarize themselves with the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. I don't believe it's a Jewish conspiracy. In other words, I don't think all Jews are in on it. How can they be? I can't say the same for JPM's and their Masonic lackeys. The Iranian revolution is a classic case study of how the learned elders topple Kingdoms.

Decadence and Downfall: The Shah of Iran's Ultimate Party - BBC Documentary

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36jSegtVfY

The party at Persepolis that paved the way for the downfall of a dictator.
A commentary on the video quoted above.
I understand the Islamic Revolution in Iran to be unique. It seems to me that it might be the only successful revolution to be carried out by non-zionists. All other revolutions starting with the French revolution and beyond are in fact Zionist led revolutions which more than likely use the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion as a blue print.
The position of Iran in the modern era (after WWII) was to be artificially manufactured. If you read between the lines, you could glean this information from the video itself.

The idea was for Iran to be viewed as a top tier nation by the rest of the heads of states of planet earth’s family of nations. At the same time the opinion of everyday Iranian people did not really matter to the perpetrators. The legitimacy of such a grand monarch did not have to come from them. The idea was to obtain the consent of the heads of state for this artificially imposed hierarchical position of the “Persian Empire” in this world. This fairy tale can only be concocted in the minds of people who don’t take into account the lives of regular Iranians. In fact that approach made sense to the inventors (maybe the “Learned Elders of Zion”?) of this “Modern Persian Empire” hoax since the people were so backward that they wouldn’t know what to do about such a fait accompli of someone at the helm of the country believing himself to be the so called Shah N Shah” and who as it turned out was nothing but a petty and ruthless dictator. To achieve that status of a top tier nation and to create this new rank of the Modern Persian Empire with a Shah n Shah as its monarch, the perpetrators of this hoax thought of a ‘novel idea’ create a party where the heads of states of the nations are invited. That will do the trick.
1:35; the party is like a debutante ball. It’s like coming out party. The idea was that Tehran wanted to join the top tier nations with a bang. But it was the wrong bang”

Note the silliness, you can make up for the backwardness of the nation by just throwing out a huge party which ended up demonstrating the pettiness and shallowness of those so called leaders of the creations called nation states.
1:50; If you spend hundreds of millions you have to answer to somebody. One day you pay”

The Iranian people were so backward that many of them viewed the Shah as a ‘god’. It was sad and ungodly to see people bowing down to this false god.
3:40: Shah: I have a firm belief that I have a mission to accomplish and I believe in God that is why I say, I have a divine command to do what I am doing. And this in addition to the special relationship between the Persian people and their king helps make it a special relationship that maybe some other people could not understand.

Unfortunately for him and as it turned out, it was the Persian people themselves who could not understand nor identify the special relationship that he was talking about. They felt so oppressed and bullied that they ended up revolting by ushering in the only type of government that was created outside of the hands and minds of the so called “Learned Elders of Zion,” the so called Powers That Be as I prefer to call them.
8:42 Abdolreza Ansari Member, Organizing Committee: If we knew what we were getting into, we would never have tried it…. People thought that the celebrations were a joke.
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say.

12:15 Meanwhile ‘intellectuals’ had been arguing since the late 19th century that the reason for colonialism, the reason for Iran’s weakness is Islam.

5:00 Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971: There were no elections back then. The people around the Shah were all flatterers and boot lickers

This is very familiar refrain. Blame the misery of the people on their religion and not on the fact that all the riches of the country are siphoned by the Shah and his handlers.

Before the Islamic revolution, the regular people were trying to survive and to find out how to come out from under the yolk of such a dictatorial regime.
5:15: Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971: As time went on we were keen to learn, to find our place in the world. We were stopped. Even reading a book was difficult. If we were found with a banned book, they’d beat us half to death. And if the person was weak they’d talk.

In 1952 Mossadegh the PM was attempting to speak for the majority of the people and challenged the supreme role of the Shah. A constitutional crisis developed on who should control the army. Mossadegh viewed this as his role according to the constitution. This would reduce the Shah to a figurehead with Mossadegh taking the executive duties of government. The dispute led to a coup which toppled Mossadegh. The coup was engineered by the CIA. After the coup the Shah felt relieved, and this despite the fact that he was back in power not as the Iranian people had hoped and regardless of the fact that he was back in his palace due to a coup led by foreigners.
16:20: Shah: Until 53, my life was a succession of pain, and suffering, and humiliation

He made a choice to maintain power by brutal force. He opted to surround himself with the SAVAK a Zionist inspired terrorist organization to suppress his own people. In order to project an image of legitimacy in the eyes of the heads of states he decided to organize the huge party mentioned earlier.

The people, in the meantime, continued to suffer more intensely with the crueler methods employed by the Shah's police.
21:16 Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971: The secret police raided our home. My mum woke me up. They were searching everywhere but they found nothing. I couldn’t believe it with all the banned books in the house. That’s when I became political. What kind of a system is this? The longer the Shah reigned the worse the oppression became. It was the opposite of what Cyrus stood for.

The Shah at the urging of his Zionist handlers created a top to bottom revolution, the so called White Revolution. You can see for yourselves the humiliation of the people kissing the hands and feet of the ‘benevolent’ dictator who is so kind as to emancipate the women by allowing them to vote and by permitting them to get rid of the veil.
22:54: Shah: If you are happy that your country is saying good bye to a feudalistic system. If you are unhappy that half of the population of your country, the women, are emancipated well, this I cannot help.

Resistance to this fake revolution which caused 15000 Iranians to be killed by tanks and machine guns was wide spread. Khomeini led the charges against the Shah for trying to put down Islam. The Shah answers by sending commandos to attack religious students in the Qom religious schools. Some of the religious students are killed in this overt terrorist action.
23:50: It’s a declaration of war against the clergy
He decides to exile Khomeini.
23:22: Shah: I had to send one of those stubborn obscurantist clergymen abroad. He had to travel.
Before being exiled, Khomeini left a message to his supporters.
24:47 Khomeini: The shameful so called white revolution which in a single day caused 15000 Muslims to be killed by tanks and machine guns has made the fate of our people even bleaker. In many of our cities and most of our villages there are no doctors or medicine. There are no signs of schools, baths or drinking water. In some villages, the children are so hungry that they graze the fields. But this tyrannical regime spends millions of dollars on various festivals. Most catastrophic of all, the 2500th anniversary of the founding of the monarchy. Let the world know that these celebrations have nothing to do with the noble Muslim people of Iran. All those who take part are traitors to Islam and to the Iranian people.

Meanwhile, the preparations for the ultimate party of the Shah were in full gear.
30:24 Queen Farah Diba: We are working so hard we have no time to think of anything else

I don't know what she is talking about 'working hard'. Working hard giving orders and trying on the most expensive dresses?
33:11 working so hard that resulted in 47Km of silk, 18 tons of food, 180 waiters, 12000 bottles of whiskey, 25000 bottles of wine, 60000 troops, 250 bullet proof limousines, 360000 eggs, 6000 costumed soldiers,
They also built a type of 'forest' in that desert by importing all the trees from Europe. they also imported 50000 birds to populate that forest. However the poor birds died after just three days due to the foreign climate to which they were unaccustomed.

The Shah was using the legend of Cyrus to buttress his lofty position as the modern monarch that has succeeded to the legendary Persian emperor.
39:41: Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971:It was a very bad time for Iran in terms of terror and oppression. I all felt very artificial. When he (the Shah) said (to Cyrus)” sleep we are awake” It was a joke. From that moment the Shah became a symbol of absurdity and hate

40:25: The opposition focused on one sentence: “Cyrus sleep calm. We are awake” The people joked “Sleep calm we’re ruining the country. Sleep calm we’re spending the oil money” “Sleep calm we’re pissing away all the wealth”

The Shah ordered the strictest safety measures to be imposed on the country and its citizens. The borders were closed. All the universities were shut down to make it safe during the party. All student representatives were arrested, every single one of them.
46:45 Journalist asks the Shah:
Is it true that protests are forbidden at the university?

Shah answers:
Which protests? Against what? Against the politic of our country which is a politic of national independence? That’s not even a question anyone talks about.

Meanwhile, in some capitals there were people who criticized the decadence and tyranny of the Shah.
Voice over: some critics the West the Shah is a dictator. Not a liberal man at all.

The criticism against the Shah dissuaded some leaders from attending the extravaganza.
47:15 Majid Zarbakhsh student leader: Five monarchs and five presidents didn’t attend. The excuses they gave weren’t credible. They were put under a lot of pressure so that they do not take part in the ceremony.
It was also emphasized by many leaders that the legitimacy of the Shah cannot come from few foreign head of states.
47:54 Abol Sadr: When you gather all the countries of the world, you’re basing your legitimacy on them. Your celebration is not for your people but for them. They’re the important ones, not your own people
. Regardless the violent oppression of those who are perceived as trouble makers continued.
Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971: They arrested me a month before the celebrations. I remember the lights going up in Shah Reza Street. The prison was so crowded, there was no room to sleep. No one could sleep where I was sleeping. I’m really small but my legs still stuck out.

Journalist asks the Shah about the cost of the extravagant celebrations while there are people in need. The Shah:
“…really the only expenses that are made for the festivities are for the official dinners that we are going to give our guests. This is the least that we could do for such a gathering.

1:02:42 : Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971:The first thing they did was to take you to the torture room. If they found something on you like an illegal book they’d hit you until they got what they wanted.

At its peak they were said to be 5000 political prisoners and 10000 secret police.
The Shah justifies the oppressive methods. He said
“ What I can say is that we are now sophisticated enough to use the same methods that you people are using for interrogating the people that you have to.

1:03:30Journalist asks him referring to the torturous interrogation methods:
Do you regard that as justified?

It depends on what cases. In cases of betrayal of one’s country, I could say anything goes.

1:02:42: Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971:They bound your hands and feet. They had different whips for different purposes. They used the thicket one first. When your feet swelled up, they’d use a thinner one. If they used too thick a whip it could break your toes.

The Shah justifies the methods as beyond the control of the torturers. At 1:04:16 the Shah says
“ You can see films for instance. You can hear stories that even in police prisons, police officer or detective (?) gets so mad at the behavior of the fellow that he has just arrested that he loses his head and he just punches on that fellow or breaks a chair on his head. These are human reactions that uuh it’s almost beyond control.

As the rumblings of dissatisfaction with his harsh rule grow, the protests get more frequent, the Shah and his handlers feel that it might be time to change course. They thought they might try to beg the people to maintain the monarchy. The Shah tries to ask for forgiveness knowing that other heads of state will not and cannot bring him legitimacy in the eyes of the Iranian people.
“ As your King, I repeat my oath to the people of Iran and solemnly vow that all the mistakes, the cruelty and corruption of the past will not be repeated.

1:12:12 Journalist asks him something about his feelings of loneliness in those days. Shah:
Yes it’s very special case if I can say so.

In what way is it special?
I mean to be as you say the king of kings.
and it means you are lonely because you really have no one to go to for advice who is above you?
Well There is always God.

Esmaeil Khataie Student Representative 1969-1971: We never had freedom. We wanted to read. We wanted to understand. We wanted to be at peace. As I look back now, I realize that they arrested the best people. Why? for reading books, for speaking out against the Shah. You couldn’t . They’d tell us to chase girls, fool around, make money. They even offered to pay us just to keep us out of politics. That’s not possible anywhere. It wasn’t possible then, It’s not possible in the Islamic republic now or in France. Young people will always look for answers.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on March 14th, 2016, 5:06 am


Iran: A Vast Diaspora Abroad and Millions of Refugees at Home

However, what makes Iran's migration story unique is that it has experienced simultaneous emigration and immigration to extreme degrees. In its recent history, Iran has laid claim to producing the highest rates of brain drain in the world while simultaneously topping the list as the world's largest refugee haven, mainly for Afghans and Iraqis. Iran also exhibits one of the steepest urban growth rates in the world, largely driven by internal migration from rural areas.

In the 1977-1978 academic year, about 100,000 Iranians were studying abroad [thanks to government grants & stipends], of whom 36,220 were enrolled in U.S. institutes of higher learning; the rest were mainly in the United Kingdom, West Germany, France, Austria, and Italy. In the 1978-1979 academic year, the number of Iranian students enrolled in the United States totaled 45,340, peaking at 51,310 in 1979-1980. According to the Institute of International Education, more Iranian students studied in the United States at this time than students from any other country.

Characteristics of the Iranian Diaspora
According to the 2000 census, the Iranian ancestral group in the United States — meaning those who claim Iranian ancestry — is among the most highly educated in the country. More than one in four Iranian Americans over the age of 25 hold a graduate degree or above, the highest rate among 67 ethnic groups, according to the Iranian Studies Group [MIT]. In addition, their per capita average income is 50 percent higher than that of the U.S. population overall.

The Endurance of the Brain Drain
Twenty-seven years after the revolution, emigration of the highly skilled has intensified yet again. Though there have been periods of ebb and flow, the brain drain is one element that all of Iran's migratory waves have in common.

In January 2006, the International Monetary Fund claimed that Iran ranks highest in brain drain among 91 developing and developed countries, with an estimated 150,000 to 180,000 educated people exiting per year. According to a 1999 study, the brain drain from Iran to the United States, measured by migration rates of the individuals with tertiary education, is the highest in Asia.



Highest science & technology growth rate in the world, 1000% increase in 9 years (1995–2004); Iran has increased its academic publishing output from 0.0003% of world's total output in 1970 to 0.29% by 2004 (That is ~100000% growth in 33 years),[139] by 2008 Iran's share had reached 1.02% of the world's total output (~340000% growth in 37 years);[140] Iran's 2009 growth rate in science & technology was highest globally being 11 times faster than the world's average rate; Iran has been doubling its scientific output every 3 years;[141] In 2009 ranked at 22nd by total scientific output; 19th in mathematics output, 17th in computer science applications output, 15th in nuclear technology output; 28th in physics output; 16th in aerospace technology output; 17th in medicine output, 13th in chemistry output & 15th in nanotechnology output

Iran has the world's largest fleet of vehicles running on CNG at 2.86 million NGVs and 1,800 fueling stations by the end of 2011;[162] Iran is also the world's fastest growing NGV market[163][164][165] By end of 2011, Iran's refueling stations had a total of 10,656 gas dispensers with installed cumulative capacity of 1.93 million cubic meters per hour & supplying more than 17 million cubic meters of gas per day to NGV's; The number of fueling stations is to increase to 2,500 by the end of 2012 and to more than 3,000 in 2013

Host to the world's largest and longest staying foreign refugees population; Mostly Iraqi and Afghan refugees; More info: Afghan Refugees in Iran; As of 2010 there are more than 3 million Afghan refugees living in Iran, and in the prior three decades Iran has been host to an average refugee population of over 5 million

Iran has the world's largest Islamic banking sector valued at 235.5 billion US dollars

Islamic Azad University is the world's third largest university with more than 1.3 million students enrolled, it is also the world's largest private university

Total proven natural gas reserves of 33.1 trillion cubic meters or 15.8% of the world's total reserves

Total hydrocarbon reserves of Iran including both oil and natural gas measured in barrel of oil equivalent (boe) stands at 301.7 billion just after Saudi Arabia's 302.5 billion boe and ahead of Russia's 198.3 billion boe; Alternatively Iranian government puts the total reserve at 324 billion boe;[60] Iran is the only country with large reserves of both gas and oil; Iran is also the only country with large hydrocarbon reserves which has the potential to massively increase its production due to its current low production levels

Diesel fuel prices in Iran are the second cheapest in the world; One liter of diesel costs in commodity barter comparison: ~0.3 of a hen egg

Highest natural radioactivity level in the world (Ramsar); Annual dose of 260 mSv; More info: Acute radiation syndrome & Ionizing radiation

The world's oldest water reservoir is in Gonabad, is more than 2700 years old & is still in use; It is also the world's largest qanat

Great Wall of Gorgan is the second longest defensive wall in existence after the Great Wall of China

World's largest Sovereign jewels collection

Highest number of national capital relocations; Iran has had 31 former capitals before Tehran (1796).

Expectation of lost healthy years (Male) of 10.4 years on average at birth; Ranked from highest loss of healthy years to lowest; Iran is 2nd after Yemen in the world & followed by Iraq :(

Expectation of lost healthy years (Female) of 12.5 years on average at birth; Ranked from highest loss of healthy years to lowest; Iran has the highest loss of healthy years for females in the world :(

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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

Postby ICfreely on March 15th, 2016, 4:36 pm

Shah N' Shahbanu

Shah Of Persia's Coronation + State Opening Of Parliament (1967)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9HIi7rWMUg

Seriously, where did we go wrong? :lol:

Queen In Persia - Reel 2 (1961)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJFMM-zjho
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