THE "CHATBOX"

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by Gracist » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:13 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:Well, this is what I mean Gracist. I am not trying to be paranoid and I am definitely trying to avoid falling into the trap of the news media but what if the perps are feeling a bit backed into a corner right now, and they are going to attempt some genuine actions to erode freedoms within the United States? What if our identification of the fake media is actually causing some new fakery ideas in the minds of the perps - such as fake news of willing gun registrations, fake news of violence to mask real violence, etc.?

I mean, Homeland Security isn't just a weird simulated fantasy. There really are gestapo-uniformed fatsoes (and some not so fat) bulging around the airports and grabbing people's nards and making them walk through irradiation chambers, asking for identity, and treating others like dirt in person.

If the assholes behind the 9/11, 7/7 and Sandy Hook hoaxes are not really making a grab for guns and a clamp-down of security culture that the whole world could feel the consequences of, why do we have Homeland Security at all? Why do we have increased military drills reported in civilian areas, et cetera? Honestly, I am trying not to get all radio pundit-y but some days it really does seem as though the latest decision by wealthy power-mad conspirators is to destroy the already shaky constitution and turn the U.S.A into nothing more than an extension of London's "Big Brother" technofascist (in)security territory. It seems like this general not knowing between false and real has caused a shadow to extend in the public consciousness for a violent force to take hold. :(
I absoloutely agree. They don't fake shootings and terrorist attacks and implement DHS for fun and to pass the time.

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by MsQ » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:19 am

Clues forum gets another mention in he latest Hacker Factor blog about Fotofornsics...

Besides links on my blog, FotoForensics does not advertise. People find out about it through word-of-mouth. So... when people come to FotoForensics, where do they come from? The top 10 sites that have referred people to FotoForensics are:

Reddit.com (224,120 references -- WOW!)
Facebook (83,168 references)
Google (58,483 references)
HackerFactor.com (54,584)
CluesForum.info (53,351)
Bing.com (22,958)
Baidu.com (22,182)
forum.bodybuilding.com (18,372)
imgops.com (15,500)
blog.rjssoftware.com (15,012


Cluesforum is a conspiracy and anti-conspiracy site. So it makes sense that they would want to evaluate questionable images.

http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index. ... nsics.html

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by Equinox » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:50 pm

Nice one Missq,
I notice a simple google image search of the most basic 9/11 words, will bring up a ton of research from here.
I don’t know if everyone’s searches are the same, but when I Google image search the words
“Fox 5 9/11,”
a whopping 17 images originally from this research forum appear in less than the first page.
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I recall reel deel, chatting to me about it in a PM, it happened all the time to him.

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Unread post by Equinox » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:56 pm

Ha, on a funny note.
An American TV station's regular programming has been interrupted by news of a zombie apocalypse.-

Article- http://news.sky.com/story/1050880/zombi ... television

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEcew38PU8c

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by MsQ » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:25 am

Equinox wrote:Nice one Missq,
I notice a simple google image search of the most basic 9/11 words, will bring up a ton of research from here.
I don’t know if everyone’s searches are the same, but when I Google image search the words “Fox 5 9/11,”
a whopping 17 images originally from this research forum appear in less than the first page.
I just tried the same google image search. I've never googled "Fox 5 9/11" before, or "Fox 5", and don't search for anything relating to 9/11 very often either. I counted at least 11 ( B) ) Clues Forum images. I gave up counting at that point as my ADD kicked in :D

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by lux » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:14 am

Have a blast -- and, some Tang!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWghCdIqedA

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by icarusinbound » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 am

lux wrote:Have a blast -- and, some Tang!
You've given me an idea- I'm not sure if there's ever been a total listing of all commercial product placing that was squeezed out of the Gemini and Apollo programmes.

Unlike the Saturn or any unmanned missions where the advertising was just a military-industrial catwalk for the aerospace companies, the manned missions became a consumer assault campaign on a massive scale.

Omega watches, WD40 oil, Fisher 'space' pens, Hasselblad cameras...America's sugar-pill after 'winning' so unconvincingly in south-east Asia was the glittering techporn consumer gadget campaign Apollo...''One small dollar from man...one giant fleece for mankind''

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Unread post by lux » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:14 pm

^ I was thinking along similar lines when I found the above commercial. I'm old enough to remember a lot of this corny stuff myself. Mercury, Gemini, Apollo -- these were all over the media back in the 1960s.

Funny thing -- Kodak never tried to market "the film that went to the moon" even though it would seem an obvious product tie-in. I guess the perps didn't want the public asking too many questions about such a magical film that could survive hundreds of degrees of temperature variance and lab technicians who processed such a film would see there was no difference between "moon film" and regular film. :lol:

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Unread post by MrSinclair » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:34 am

I too remember much of those times. It seems that a common meme that was propagated back then was how the space program would pay immeasurable benefits throughout society. As good little American children we were imbibed to the point of heady intoxication with the notion that the space program would reward us all like some interplanetary Santa Claus.

Now we look at the paucity of the whole charade and see how little was there in the first place... :blink:

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Unread post by icarusinbound » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:58 am

MrSinclair wrote:I too remember much of those times. It seems that a common meme that was propagated back then was how the space program would pay immeasurable benefits throughout society.
I also was born into the early days of the Agency's mission to save the world through lateral technology placement. Have a look at http://spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff/database - just leave the filters blank, and hit the search function. There's an astounding range of claimed cross-benefit technical discoveries, well over a thousand surreal claims of vindication-through-alternative-application.

There's an interesting disclaimers section within the 'Spinoffs' FAQ section where although having invented 'the ever-popular memory foam found in many consumer applications', they admit to not having invented the following- Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), cordless power tools, barcodes, quartz clocks, or smoke detectors, Tang(!), Teflon, and even Velcro (Kubrick's reputed anti-gravity visual aid in '2001'), all in a kind-of self 'Mythbusters lite' vein.

This is all quietly shouted from deep within the layered mystery that is The Agency. NASA frequently reminds me of Pratchett's "Unseen University"...anyone else follow my comparison?

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Unread post by pov603 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:56 am

I wonder if anyone else on any non-mainstream sites is noticing anything such as the following?
A website forum I use regarding football [soccer] has now had 'admin' notices posted regarding complaints they are receiving from (unnamed) 'major' news agency/ies about copyright infringements because of posters 'lifting' content of news items from their webpages.
(the web site is http://www.ja606.co.uk)
It may possibly be a storm-in-a-teacup at present but I do wonder if it will start to impinge on other sites [especially this one or others like it (if there are any!)] to try and limit the ability of others to point out how inconsistent and wrong or manipulative the news agencies actually are.

Edit: Just added that you may have to 'dig' into one of the streams to see the actual notice from the admins as they have 'multi-boarded' it. So, if you are going to delve deeper, please choose one of the lesser known clubs, say,...Birmingham City?...in the Championship?...just a thought...

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by hoi.polloi » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:16 am

Thank you for keeping your wits about you on this matter; they will certainly flex their digital legal muscle to quiet the open, easily accessible discussion on these things.

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by simonshack » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:22 pm

lux wrote: Funny thing -- Kodak never tried to market "the film that went to the moon" even though it would seem an obvious product tie-in. I guess the perps didn't want the public asking too many questions about such a magical film that could survive hundreds of degrees of temperature variance and lab technicians who processed such a film would see there was no difference between "moon film" and regular film. :lol:
Excellent point. In fact, this single point - all by itself - suffices to debunk NASA's Apollo fables. No film rolls could possibly have survived a trip to the moon. Period.

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by Equinox » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:05 am

Simon,
Can you please check your facebook inbox, when you get a chance?
Cheers :)

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread post by Equinox » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:22 am

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