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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby ICfreely on May 1st, 2016, 1:34 am

There comes a time in every man’s life when he must say,

“Fuck you Jobu! I do it myself!”

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjoFZEwAyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjoFZEwAyI
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby hoi.polloi on May 1st, 2016, 5:08 am

ICfreely ... compared to your deeper research, I am saddened when your enthusiasm for the truth resorts in just posting YouTube videos to our forum like we're Facebook.

Is there some way I could inspire you to go back to your lengthy (researched, cited) diatribes?

Also, did you hear the latest Clues Chronicle about Newton, where we used much of your posts involving Newton?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Equivoque on May 2nd, 2016, 3:23 pm

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, and I'm sorry if that's the case :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk

This video is about real time reenactement, and in this case it is nothing less than creating facial expressions. The principle is to record a "source" actor, and to transfer his facial expression to a previously recorded face, the "target", in order to create a new video, with the "target" using the facial expressions of the "source". But it is explained much better in the video anyway !
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby ICfreely on May 3rd, 2016, 2:06 am

hoi.polloi wrote:ICfreely ... compared to your deeper research, I am saddened when your enthusiasm for the truth resorts in just posting YouTube videos to our forum like we're Facebook.



Fair enough, hoi! I admit, it was a tad niggardly of me. The Jobu quote was a follow-up to the movie "The Silence" I'd posted the day before - "Do not rely on the future or the past. Seize the moment, do not waste time." In other words, be the hero of your own journey. Hey, they can't all be gems. :) Feel free to derail or delete it.


hoi.polloi wrote:Is there some way I could inspire you to go back to your lengthy (researched, cited) diatribes?



Yes, now that you mention it. I'd appreciate your (or anyone else's) thoughts on the "Engineering 'disease'" thread. Have you found it useful/empowering in any way? Has it changed your outlook on healthcare? Do you have any questions? Anything you'd like me to clarify? Should I focus more on allopatic abuse or holistic healing? There's a million ways I can go with it...


hoi.polloi wrote:Also, did you hear the latest Clues Chronicle about Newton, where we used much of your posts involving Newton?



Yup. Very funny & informative. You & Kham complement each other well.

Your line @ 1:27:09, "Probably the main lesson I'm getting is that we should be questioning a lot of this stuff because it's so often used as an excuse of why we're being oppressed" hit the nail on the head.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby ICfreely on May 5th, 2016, 3:02 am

ICfreely wrote:It’s good to be King?

Tehran to Cairo - English Subtitled

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3LGoUcoIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3LGoUcoIg

1:20:58 - Queen Farah Pahlavi: “Not everyone knew about the illness. The first time HIM actually talked to me about cancer was in Mexico. Some thought that if His Majesty went to the States, for treatment, it would be better [ -_- ], so we requested to go there if possible. In order to make certain His Majesty was ill, the Americans sent a doctor, a specialist of tropical diseases. Then the decision was made that we should go to the States. When we arrived by plane to the States, at first the plane touched down somewhere by mistake. No one expected the plane to land there so how that mistake was made… Then we went to another airport and from there arrived at the airport in New York. Princess Ashraf had a home there where we were supposed to stay but Mr. David Rockefeller said it was best for His Majesty to go straight to the hospital [ <_< ] so that’s what we did and His Majesty was taken directly to the hospital.” [ :( ]

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1854&start=45#p2399557


23:35 Queen Farah Pahlavi: For example, when one heard that not only ordinary people but some well-educated ones saw Khomeini’s image in the moon or a facial hair of his in the Quran what can you think?


Holy Devolution, Batman – The Copernican Revolution!


ICfreely wrote:Copernicus's remains laid to rest – again

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgeabpk_2A4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgeabpk_2A4

1:11 - An image of what Old Nick may have looked like.

1:27 - Goran Hendriksson: "I just opened the book and in the middle of the book I saw immediately a hair. We found nine hairs and two of them matched perfectly – the DNA…"

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1487&start=15#p2399224



36:46 - Queen Farah Pahlavi: As Einstein said, “all the energy in the world will not help us go back even one second.”



Einstein Akbar!
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby elmoastro on May 5th, 2016, 6:08 pm

I'd like to put this out there, maybe it belongs in derailing but I think not. I'm starting to steer my research more and more into the why of the whole fakery business. It's obvious to many that there is a massive hijack in place. It's the past and current researchers who put their findings out there, as the admins here have done, who we have to thank. We also have to take the various themes and threads and come up with a working model of "What the Fuck is Really Going on Here?" or maybe just, "Speculations on the Why of the Whole Thing".

The If/Then statement is starting to really pile up on the "If" side of this logic equation to the point of being able to draw some interesting possibilities. For me it boils down to one possibility, and that is there is more out there than we have been taught to believe. The "more out there" is NOT "space". Ha! Even the word "space" is a hijack. To violate my own rule of quoting TV (which is a reminder of how deep programming is), it's like Seinfeld's "show about nothing". Point being, they WANT us to look at space. They WANT us to search for new stars and crazy negative energy mumbo jumbo and focus on the math and equations from their data. Why all the recent intensity of events? Because it works, but it's wearing thin and they are stats people. As the stats weigh more and more to the side of seeing their game, the strategy shifts to either laying low (not likely) to ramping it up. And with a huge percentage of the population buried in tech from TV to phones, to movies, to music to drama in all forms, they have all the time in the world to plot, plan and prepare as the population won't allow for that level of understanding to enter into their firewalled program schema.

The why for me has a lot to do with all the flat earth talk. Never in my life did I ever consider the possibility until I realized that EVERYTHING NASA ever put out is fake. EVERYTHING a false front of a western ghost town. And even as it's coming apart, the population divides itself into believers and non-believers--just like nearly all dualistic constructs. Except in this one, the game is starting to reveal itself. The behind the scenes masters are having to shift gears as more and more expose them. But I'm guessing, based on this little logic trail, that "they" are still far ahead in the game, whatever it may end up being.

So here it is. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there is more land "out there". Whether it's beyond some ice wall and leads to another sun/moon system, whether it's another Amazon jungle full of primitive tribes, or even advanced tech types who can even visit these far off places; to me it makes more sense that "they" are protecting their knowledge of this. "Get there first". Consider the US was recently called the "New World". New? Really? In the 1300-1500's? Why new? Because it was, given the tech of the times. And may be because Yellowstone burped out a ton of land and it finally became reachable, I don't have a clue. But I don't trust what I've been taught. I do trust human nature. And the nature of this scam, all of it, is control of the herd. We're not gonna be shackled, or whipped. We're gonna imprison ourselves with bullshit to the point of having no clue as to reputable historical content nor the ability to discern fact from fiction in real time.

My guess is exploratory funding is what takes up a lot of the military and space resources. It even explains the global warming scam. If the sun is starting to expose more and more land, it must be grabbed in some way and the last thing they want is a rush of people horning in on their shit. No one would believe it anyhow, save the ones who have done enough work to see the scam in it's manifestations.

"They" already have control of everything. But they don't at the same time. Half (or more) of the crap we believe to be true is false. We have not the perspective to see the whole intent and construct. It doesn't even make sense to go after the "they" except for their constructs. Those need to disintegrate under their own weight of stupidity. And that takes some sort of wake up to enough of the population.

Anyhow, I've been down too many crazy fringe threads and have had to dial it back to my human behavior research and the way (the 1's & 0's) of programming the binary human machine-brain. There is a higher perspective of understanding out there and it is being well protected. Maybe for some lofty "Architect" type reasoning. Maybe because people really are stupid en masse.

I'm starting to see a model and it even includes more land than we can know about at this time. Not the Disney planet Pluto, the Mars desert productions, the moon farce, the ISS Sesame Street production, the fear & terror and war. Just kings exploring new regions to conquer, own, visit & exploit. The Romans most likely explored as much of the planet as they could being the elite regime of their time (so we're told). What has changed? Surely not the hubris of a population to believe it is at the pinnacle of wisdom and knowledge.

Thank you all for your wisdom and insights into all this bullshit fakery. Even the sparring reveals both truth and error in logic and understanding and it's important to be able to debate and challenge what seems off. Especially when the all-knowing school-taught programmed can't handle the pokes at their firewalled belief structures, people and sites that continually expose the charade are at the cutting edge of this so-called awakening if it ever even can happen in this lifetime. My theory in a nutshell: It's not space they're after, it's land. Maybe "worlds". I don't know...

Peace.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby elmoastro on May 5th, 2016, 6:21 pm

It also explains the "Population Hoax". If the world is already believed to be jam-packed and truly defined, more fear, more drama, less thinking, no need to look elsewhere to populate except "space". :lol:

Google: there's more land than what they say...

"There's no more land" and "There's nothing but water", "climate", referring to a CNN article about Isle de Jean Charles, Louisiana. But the subconscious programming is interesting to consider. http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/08/opinions/ ... a-climate/

Other than that you can't find a single site via google where someone has asked or posted that string of words--even without quotes so as to allow for more diverse results. That's interesting to me. It begs, how deep is the programming that the question is not even asked? Or buried, or ?

Here is a result from the search string: is there more land than what we are taught
Answer: http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=196 where this question is answered:
"I have several questions: Here in the US, we are taught that there are 7 continents, but I have met several internationals who say there are only 5. Which is count is correct? Second, in which continent does the Middle East lie (and is Egypt considered part of the Middle East)? Relatedly, which countries consitute the following: the Near East, the Middle East, and the Far East (and according to whom?) Is Central America considered part of North America or South America?"

Ha, found this tho...apparently the Earth has lost a quarter of its water... :huh:

The Earth has lost a quarter of its water

March 13, 2012 - 06:28
In its early history, the Earth's oceans contained significantly more water than they do today. A new study indicates that hydrogen from split water molecules has escaped into space.

By: Sybille Hildebrandt

The early oceans had a deuterium/hydrogen ratio that was 0.03 smaller compared to today’s oceans. This finding can be used to show that back in time there was more water on Earth than today.

Really?

Although water covers 70 percent of the Earth's surface, water is actually a rare substance that represents just 0.05 percent of the Earth's total mass.

Water has nevertheless played a crucial role in the emergence of life on Earth. Without water, the Earth would in all likelihood be a dead planet.

The amount of water on the planet has not always been the same, however. A research group at the Natural History Museum of Denmark has discovered this by measuring how hydrogen isotope ratios in the oceans have changed over time.

"The water that covered the Earth at the dawn of time contained more of the lighter hydrogen isotope than the heavier hydrogen isotope, known as deuterium, than it does today,” says Emily Pope, a post doc, who has played a central role in the study.

The Pope says so... <_<

“By examining how the ratio of these isotopes has changed, we have been able to determine that over the course of around four billion years, the Earth's oceans have lost about a quarter of their original mass."

Can't get any closer than around four billion? :lol:

Geological clues in Greenland

Pope and her colleagues found their path to discovery in a mineral called serpentine.

Serpentine is formed when the Earth's crust comes into contact with seawater circulating at high temperature through channels and cracks in the Earth's crust beneath the seabed.
Serpentine seen through a microscope (Photo: Emily Pope)

Just Wow!

The isotope ratios in serpentine are determined by the isotope ratios in the sea water at the time the mineral was formed, and this information can be used to form a picture of what the oceans were like aeons ago.

Serpentine is a relatively commonly occurring mineral, but the researchers chose to look in the Isua Belt in western Greenland where some of the Earth's oldest rocks were formed, 3.8 billion years ago.

Ahhh nice. ".8" Now we're getting somewhere close.

In 2010, Emily Pope, together with colleagues Minik Rosing and Dennis K. Bird went to a part of Isua, previously identified as being an ancient seabed rich in serpentine, to collect samples.

Hydrogen floats off into space

Whoa!

Rock samples were taken from the area and subsequently analysed in a laboratory at Stanford University in California, USA.

Tests revealed a significantly higher ratio of hydrogen to deuterium than is seen today.

The explanation, according to Emily Pope, is that when the Earth was in its infancy, part of the water in the oceans was split into hydrogen, deuterium and oxygen via a process called methanogenesis. Both hydrogen and deuterium are low-density gases, so they rose through the atmosphere and eventually floated off into space.

"The Birth of Methane?" <insert fart sound>

Methanogenesis works more efficiently for hydrogen than for deuterium, so more hydrogen gas was created by this process than deuterium gas, and this slowly but surely altered the ratio of these isotopes in the oceans.
In western Greenland, researchers have identified geological strata rich in serpentine among some of the Earth's oldest rocks so far found. (Photo: Emily Pope).

Knowing how much hydrogen had disappeared from the oceans over the last four billion years enabled the researchers to calculate that the oceans have lost about a quarter of their water since the Earth’s early days.

Please tell me which horse will win this years Kentucky Derby...surely you must know Miss Pope... :lol:

"Hydrogen and deuterium are still escaping into space, but very slowly, says Pope.

“Today the atmosphere is rich in oxygen, which reacts with both hydrogen and deuterium to recreate water, which falls back to the Earth's surface. So the vast bulk of the water on Earth is held in a closed system that prevents the planet from gradually drying out."

Young Sun Paradox

Name on a fortune cookie?

The analyses also showed how much methane existed in the atmosphere of the infant Earth. The methanogenesis process creates hydrogen from methane, and since the researchers know how much hydrogen was lost to space, they were also able to estimate how much methane the atmosphere must have contained in the past.

Their calculations show that at the time when the rocks in the Isua Belt in Greenland were formed, the atmosphere contained 50 to 500 times more methane than it does today.

This result is relevant to the debate on why the Earth's climate in prehistory was almost as warm as it is today, despite the fact that the Sun was significantly fainter – an apparent contradiction known to researchers as the Young Sun Paradox.

One solution to the paradox is that the atmosphere at that stage in the Earth's history contained large amounts of greenhouse gases.

Facts

Finally some facts!

Methanogenesis

In this two-stage process, water and carbon dioxide react to form methane, and subsequently hydrogen.

i) 2H2O (water) + CO2 (carbon dioxide) -> CH4 (methane) + 2O2 (oxygen)

ii) CH4 (methane) + 2O2 (oxygen) -> CO2 + O2 + 2H2 (hydrogen)

Net effect: 2H2O (water) -> O2 (oxygen) + 2H2 (hydrogen)

Ahhh yes, that explains it!

In the Earth's infancy, the hydrogen escaped into space. Methanogenesis also works when water contains the heavier isotope deuterium instead of hydrogen, but this process is significantly slower.

But this hypothesis is invalidated by the study from Pope and her colleagues.

"We have found that the atmosphere contained more methane than it does today,” she says. “But it was still a fraction of the amount necessary to create a warm climate solely using atmospheric methane as a greenhouse gas."

Dramatic climate change

The reason for the climate being so warm must have been something other than atmospheric greenhouse gases. Pope favours a theory proposed by Minik Rosing and others in 2010.

Their explanation of why the climate was warm despite a fainter sun is that the surface of the Earth was covered with water at that time, whereas today the Earth's surface is partly land mass.

Seawater absorbs more sunlight than land does, so a larger amount of energy was absorbed when oceans covered the planet. It is argued that this larger energy absorption was sufficient to keep the climate relatively warm.

Minik Rosing, who also participated in the new study, emphasises that the new results not only reveal something about the past climate, but also put current climate change in perspective.

"The Earth's climate has so far been a stable system. Current climate change, for which the human race bears much of the responsibility, is dramatic compared to the small variations that have taken place over time,” says Rosing.

“When we increase the amounts of greenhouse gases in this way, an imbalance results which perhaps can never be re-stabilised – a balance that has been the reason why life was able to come into being and flourish."


This is science folks. This is what NPR slurpers will recite when they hear "Science Friday" or "Stardate" or Kneel De GrASS pontificate. "Did you know <insert regurgitated science here>?" Who needs to look any further. They told us.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Gopi on May 11th, 2016, 6:20 pm

Mickey wrote:Wow didn't see a trip to India coming ! Hope you had some great fun, although Bangalore is very crowded and chaotic :wub: Are you back in Italy? If not I would definitely recommend going to some other cities and smaller towns to get a real taste of India. Did you discuss 911 fakery with Dr. Rao? What was his take on it?


I don't know if Simon did, but from when I met him, it just seemed that the gentleman was completely involved in his astronomy research, and it was best to just stick to that topic as time was short and it was more vital. Plus he had a LOT to share there.

Mickey wrote:@Gopi , welcome to Cluesforum. Didn't know another desi had joined the forum. There was someone else who had joined in 2013/14, but he made an angry exit for reasons unknown. You have actually gone a lot further than a lot of us here in meeting Simon in person :) Curious to know if you follow Indian media and are aware of fakeries there as well (some have been touched upon in this forum).


Thanks Mickey! Me too, didn't know there was another desi on here. Yes, the amount of fakery in Indian media also stinks to high heaven... such as the Moon/Mars projects, and also the Pokhran "tests." I am in touch with a few people in India who are seeing parts of the game for what it is, even though they haven't gone as far as CluesForum. Feel free to PM me, we'll keep in touch. And if you are anywhere near Salt Lake, SF, New Jersey or NYC we may even meet in the next month! That's how I roll :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Mickey on May 14th, 2016, 4:29 am

Moon/Mars/Pokharan, Satellites, border wars, Italians arrested a few years back, the list is endless. According to what I have read (no real way to corroborate), India's black money stashed in Swiss banks is greater than all other countries combined ($1.5trillion by some estimates). The actual figures do not matter and it is not difficult to understand given that India has been raped for centuries and continues to be raped today like no other major country in existence.

You are right though, a very very small minority is waking up via CluesForum and independent research. It is totally unreal that a plant like Sonia Gandhi from Italy is able to do what no other country on Earth can allow. In fact just recently I have come across some blogs which seem to be uncovering the freemason links of the whole Gandhi/Nehru clan and "freedom" fighters back in the day. :huh:

My traveling gigs have mostly been over for about 2 years now. But if you ever come to Dallas, let me know :D Will reply to your PM as well.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby hoi.polloi on May 14th, 2016, 4:35 pm

ICfreely wrote:Yes, now that you mention it. I'd appreciate your (or anyone else's) thoughts on the "Engineering 'disease'" thread. Have you found it useful/empowering in any way? Has it changed your outlook on healthcare? Do you have any questions? Anything you'd like me to clarify? Should I focus more on allopatic abuse or holistic healing? There's a million ways I can go with it...


Yes, I think the posts in Engineering Disease thread is a great way to put health topics in context on our site.

Since we don't need to have subforums on every single topic under the sun, it's nice that we occasionally have a thread that can cover only the best of something broad.

As long as we keep posts relevant, skeptical, and informative, trying to avoid speculation, and the sub-discussions about the most informative posts remain virtually on topic and not too derailing, I think you could post about those things and alleged cancer treatments and everything in between. The length of a post does not increase its quality. But I think we often do better than describing a link. We can paraphrase and explain. I appreciate the discussion in that thread. Thanks.

Personally, having various acquaintances (also of varying closeness) throughout the business system of "Health"(TM)(R), I find the scattered confused truth and the "cutting edge" research to be of extremely fluctuating quality. But holistic, osteopathic, homeopathic and other older sciences than "chemical warfare on the body" have great merit. It's worth discussing all the mysteries and enigmas of health, as long as we don't bring it to the (perhaps very necessary but out-of-context) spiritual discussions.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby simonshack on May 14th, 2016, 5:21 pm

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Hi everyone,

Just wished to pop by & say hi to all - and to apologize once again for being rather inactive on the forum lately (even if I read it / and moderate it daily).

Apart from being deeply absorbed by the final 'touches' to my (provisionally-named) "TYCHO-SSSS" solar system model - which keeps my optimism "sky-high" (since it's proving to pan out beautifully / beyond my wildest expectations) - I'm going through a very sad, unpleasant 'fight' with my own two elder brothers whose insane / pathological greed are now threatening my own, tranquil way of life - including the house that I live in. I won't mention any details about this current, personal situation of mine - even if it could make for a pretty interesting 'case study' of how certain types of privileged / spoiled individuals will continue to act as if their financial comfort (enabled to them by their mum and dad's hard work and parental generosity) were some sort of 'god-given' right assigned to their lives on this Earth. Suffice to say that my two elder brothers think that I am 'mad' (as in 'tinfoil hat loonie') - and that they both hang up the phone on me whenever I try to call them.

I know, this 'outing' of mine may perhaps discourage some Cluesforum members (for fear of being labelled as 'mad, tinfoil hat lunatics') from pursuing their valiant efforts at pinpointing the flaws of this world - and its 'humanity'. Yet, I'm becoming increasingly convinced of late - that such insecure / fearful people are just redundant folks who simply need not participate in the world-improvement that smart & honest folks will inevitably achieve (and no, this is not a Darwinian concept!). It's just too bad that - for us people living in this current epoch - what smart and honest people will inevitably achieve is something that only our children's children will be able to enjoy. However, let us be glad for pioneering - so to speak - the inevitable (long-term) improvement of this planet's society.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby hoi.polloi on May 14th, 2016, 5:53 pm

elmoastro wrote:So here it is. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there is more land "out there". Whether it's beyond some ice wall and leads to another sun/moon system, whether it's another Amazon jungle full of primitive tribes, or even advanced tech types who can even visit these far off places; to me it makes more sense that "they" are protecting their knowledge of this.


I really appreciate your attempt to focus on a solid motive for fakery besides the boredom of the wealthy.

If the "more land" idea really makes sense to you as a motive, I think we still have to bring it back to human psychology and/or other more nuanced/holistic observations of our own behavior. Why more land? The need for privacy? The need for control? Something unconscious? Maybe charismatic, attention-controllers.

To me, a stronger base motive than "more land" (which might still explain that goal) that I can see in everyone from babies to teenagers to old leftists and old bigots — and so perhaps inaccessibly in the sociopathic bloated ticks of the State system — is an existential need for the control of the mental real estate of others for instant gratification of various calls.

By "calls" I mean the sort of instincts and tendencies we are born with and which drive us for better or worse. Some people want to succeed in helping others, some in helping themselves, and others in just controlling things because they believe (or even see) that they get credit for helping others, justified or not. I am not sure. This is just how it seems to me. If there were more "virgin" land, however, I guess it could be very interesting to anyone.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby hoi.polloi on May 14th, 2016, 6:03 pm

simonshack wrote:*

Hi everyone,

Just wished to pop by & say hi to all - and to apologize once again for being rather inactive on the forum lately (even if I read it / and moderate it daily).

Apart from being deeply absorbed by the final 'touches' to my (provisionally-named) "TYCHO-SSSS" solar system model - which keeps my optimism "sky-high" (since it's proving to pan out beautifully / beyond my wildest expectations) - I'm going through a very sad, unpleasant 'fight' with my own two elder brothers whose insane / pathological greed are now threatening my own, tranquil way of life - including the house that I live in. I won't mention any details about this current, personal situation of mine - even if it could make for a pretty interesting 'case study' of how certain types of privileged / spoiled individuals will continue to act as if their financial comfort (enabled to them by their mum and dad's hard work and parental generosity) were some sort of 'god-given' right assigned to their lives on this Earth. Suffice to say that my two elder brothers think that I am 'mad' (as in 'tinfoil hat loonie') - and that they both hang up the phone on me whenever I try to call them.

I know, this 'outing' of mine may perhaps discourage some Cluesforum members (for fear of being labelled as 'mad, tinfoil hat lunatics') from pursuing their valiant efforts at pinpointing the flaws of this world - and its 'humanity'. Yet, I'm becoming increasingly convinced of late - that such insecure / fearful people are just redundant folks who simply need not participate in the world-improvement that smart & honest folks will inevitably achieve (and no, this is not a Darwinian concept!). It's just too bad that - for us people living in this current epoch - what smart and honest people will inevitably achieve is something that only our children's children will be able to enjoy. However, let us be glad for pioneering - so to speak - the inevitable (long-term) improvement of this planet's society.


Wow, weirdly on topic, Simon. And sorry to hear that.

Maybe I need to more deeply consider our kismet on this subject. More "real estate" (whether it's long sought-after virgin land or the power-trip of displacing native inhabitants) is indeed what often drives the power-mad to do what they do.

To think "The Base: Music Factory" is under threat from those two is a sad development. I would try comforting words about the excellent strength in nomadism, and as Sir Rosi Braidotti would say, it's something we all may benefit from practicing more of, but I'd rather things work out differently.

If not, and you're hard up, you and your mother are always welcome wherever I am, Simon.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby ICfreely on May 14th, 2016, 9:36 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:It's worth discussing all the mysteries and enigmas of health, as long as we don't bring it to the (perhaps very necessary but out-of-context) spiritual discussions.


What of the evil spirits that poison our children with their witch’s brew, Hoi? Mustn’t their doodoo voodoo be exposed and abandoned once and for all?

‘Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.’

It sounds like the three witches in Shakespeare’s Macbeth (Act 4, Scene 1) were brewing up a medieval vaccine. :D
http://www.davidpratt.info/roberts.htm


In all seriousness, I agree with the gist of your post. The spirit of it, anyway.


P.S.

Hang in there, Simon. In times like this it's important to keep your spirit(s) up!
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby elmoastro on May 15th, 2016, 10:10 pm

"This is impossible" - New York man wins his second $1M lottery
http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/m ... e-39037305

A construction worker who won $1 million in a lottery scratch-off game four years ago has defied enormous odds by hitting a $1 million jackpot again.

But don't call him lucky.

After Bruce Magistro hit the jackpot the first time in 2012, his wife, Yvonne, lost a three-year battle with cancer. Much of the prize money went to pay for her medical bills.

"She passed away two years ago today," Magistro's son, Nick Mayers, said Wednesday. He said he was sure the second jackpot was her way of sending help back to the family.

"This is definitely a gift, from her to him," Mayers said.

State lottery officials introduced Magistro at a news conference at the Long Island gas station where he bought the second winning ticket April 11.

Magistro said he plays the lottery every day and plunked down $20 at Mike's Super Citgo in West Babylon for a set of 10 Win for Life scratch-offs.

"This is impossible," Magistro said he thought as he scratched off a lottery ticket and realized he won $1 million. "I just couldn't believe I hit it two times."

He now plans to share his winnings with his three children and his fiancee.

Magistro won $1 million on a different lottery scratch-off game he played at the same gas station in 2012.

The latest win came the first time he had played the Win for Life game, which will pay him $1,000 each week — with a minimum of $1 million — for the rest of his life.

Lottery representative Yolanda Vega, who had presented Magistro with a ceremonial check for his first win, said even then she felt he could win a second time.

"He was so positive and outgoing that I knew he'd win again," she said. "There was something about Bruce that I felt. There was this energy coming from his core."

State gaming officials said the odds Magistro beat to get the Win for Life grand prize were 1 in 7,745,600, and they were 1 in 2,520,000 when he won the Extreme Cash scratch-off in 2012. That's 2,520,000 (9) and 7,745,600 (29, =11)

But beating those kinds of odds twice aren't unheard of. A North Carolina woman with breast cancer won $1 million in a lottery game in February and then scored a $250,000(7 again) prize last month. In 2012, a man in suburban Chicago won $1 million from a "Merry Millionaire" scratch-off game after winning the same amount nine years earlier.

Magistro said he plans to use the money to pay his bills and go on a vacation, though he hasn't decided where just yet.

"Hopefully I'll win again," he joked. "Third time's a charm."

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Follow Michael Balsamo on Twitter @MikeBalsamo1.


Anyone wanna bet these are some sort of payoffs, inside jobs or transactions via strawman? That's a lot of conspiro meat for that little of an article.

In other news, an apparently unrelated "Yolanda Vega, 35" was found murdered in NY last December and was featured on this Nancy Grace vomit fest:
http://www.hlntv.com/shows/nancy-grace/ ... ad-in-home

Grace compares it to Jon Benet...
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