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The chart in the link below is titled "The Matrix of Social Identity", but it´s more like a list of "agents of oppression". If you identify as healthy, middle-aged adult, good-looking, well-to-do, white European/American, male, Christian or straight, you will inescapably fit into one or more of the categories of oppressors.

https://i.ibb.co/kmFXFF4/Social-Identity-Chart.jpg

Where did I find this chart? It was distributed to students attending the De Smet Jesuit High School in St. Louis this year. The Jesuits are considered the most, hmm, "progressive" of the Catholic orders, at least in the US.

It may come as a surprise to some, but the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD), the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) and other mainstream Catholic outfits support and/or fund just about every item on Soros' checklist.
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Following up on the topic of Catholic support for and funding of unCatholic agendas (abortion, birth control, global warming, illegal immigration, transgenderism etc.), it´s worth spending a few minutes examining the fine detective work of Michael Hichborn, founder of the orthodox Catholic "Lepanto Institute", which gets labeled as fundamentalist and alt-right (whatever that means) and is very likely on the Southern Poverty Law Center hate radar.

The below investigation by Hichborn looks at the unCatholic and not-so-private lives of the faculty and leadership of the Marian University in Indianapolis. Hichborn´s work is meticulous, well presented and unanswerable. His objective is simply to prove that the leaders of institutions formally identified as Catholic (and directly or indirectly paid for by the laity) promote ideologies and values and sport lifestyles at odds with the most basic tenets of Catholic moral and social teaching.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u9PRDr ... sp=sharing
(five documents strung together in one pdf, banners removed, formatting not so good)

Disclaimer:
My intention with this post is...
i) to give an example of high-quality research and reporting of findings in keeping with a clear objective, and
ii) to support my earlier claim that the current Catholic hierarchy and mainstream institutions in the US (universities, community organizations, funding mechanisms, etc.) are perfectly aligned with the causes championed by the Open Society (although grants may be channeled through intermediaries).
My intention is not: to start a discussion on gender theory, or feminism, or socialism, or immigration, or whatever. All these topics have their merits but are irrelevant in this case. Besides, there is a whole internet out there for those who wish to hurl themselves into the mêlée.
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michiganj wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:36 pm
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There are some major changes happening in my life which accounts for the long delays in between posts. It's too stressful and I've got too much on my plate right now. I cannot multi-task at all and my wife can verify that. :wacko:
I'm sorry but I need to put aside the forum for at least the next couple of months.

. . .

mj
Take all the time you need my dear friend. And don’t hesitate to text or call me if there’s anything I can do. I’ll be there for you however I can. And of course I’ll continue to keep a close eye on the forum.
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THE "CHATBOX"

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simonshack wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:10 pm Sorry folks, but I'll just lock this thread for now - since I think it will inevitably lead to discussions about transgender topics - which quite frankly are not my cup of tea (and outside of the scope of this forum). If you're interested in such topics, please go to Fakeologist.com.
Call me late to the party, if it applies.

After me not paying too much attention to most things in popular media, a few months ago I came across a YT channel that introduced to me the topic of Hollywierd elite and music industry elite being transgender, this being a multi-generational pursuit. This particular lady discovered, to her dismay, that there is what she calls a "tranny glass ceiling" in the music industry, of which she was a part, as her mother was as well. She (and others) present the clues that are used to discern for oneself the matter at hand.

Turns out, this also applies to the political elite.

Anyway, the point of this post is that this is an insidious mass deception. Exposing Mass Deception is this site's tagline. I will leave it at that.

Edit: Sorry, she was in acting, her mother was in music.
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HonestlyNow wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:10 pm
simonshack wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:10 pm Sorry folks, but I'll just lock this thread for now - since I think it will inevitably lead to discussions about transgender topics - which quite frankly are not my cup of tea (and outside of the scope of this forum). If you're interested in such topics, please go to Fakeologist.com.
Call me late to the party, if it applies.

After me not paying too much attention to most things in popular media, a few months ago I came across a YT channel that introduced to me the topic of Hollywierd elite and music industry elite being transgender, this being a multi-generational pursuit. This particular lady discovered, to her dismay, that there is what she calls a "tranny glass ceiling" in the music industry, of which she was a part, as her mother was as well. She (and others) present the clues that are used to discern for oneself the matter at hand.

Turns out, this also applies to the political elite.

Anyway, the point of this post is that this is an insidious mass deception. Exposing Mass Deception is this site's tagline. I will leave it at that.

Edit: Sorry, she was in acting, her mother was in music.
Dear HonestlyNow,

I’m not entirely sure in which context that quote from Simon arose—but, please note that he was sure to include his determination that it (whatever thread was being locked) was outside the scope of the forum.

I wouldn’t read that to suggest that any and all topics of the kind are per se unwelcome here. My caution would be that (should a member wish to delve into such matters) the content needs to clearly and specifically identify and address the claimed mass deception at work. To be clear, we don’t want a generalized discussion of the issue, which may (heaven forbid) lead to a more familiar social media-like exchange of bickering and exchanges (that are based on individual opinions and values), as opposed to objective analysis.

As always, we will scrutinize whatever is posted on this forum—and, as you know, sometimes a topic (in our view at least) needs to be locked in order to maintain the peaceful decorum and environment that we have worked so hard to achieve. That is of course a call made by the admins/mods on a case by case basis.

I hope this reply brings some clarity to the matter. :)
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Did anyone catch the stupid CGI Fly that magically appeared on Pence's head the other night?

How long do you suppose it will be before we start hearing manufactured conspiracies about "Holograms" or "DARPA Nanobots" and other such nonsense?

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As Simon would say:

What a silly world we live in. :P
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anonjedi2 wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:07 pm Did anyone catch the stupid CGI Fly that magically appeared on Pence's head the other night?

How long do you suppose it will be before we start hearing manufactured conspiracies about "Holograms" or "DARPA Nanobots" and other such nonsense?
. . .

As Simon would say:

What a silly world we live in. :P
Thanks for posting the zoomed in appearance of the “fly” image. Based on what you posted—yeah, it’s nothing short of TV magic. I don’t think 2020 has damaged my sense of humor—but, I’m finding the silly mind games played by the govern-media to be almost universally lacking in humor.
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Nowadays, everything seems to be "cycling" around money-related forecasts. :(
MQuiz wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:26 pm...They are all calculated by his AI he calls "Socrates" that predicts pattern depending on how money is mowed along the world.
Strange, - because Socrates was always the questioner, not the respondent! And throughout the ages, he has always been thought of as a symbol of the most personal way of asking questions. (Why not Einstein, or other colleague-Zionist - if he is one?)

People, certain people, are almost instinctively able to reverse the meaning of symbols. I guess these people are among the well paid.
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One of the surest guarantees of prosperity and advancement in one's mindset today I think is a strong belief in "artificial intelligence" and its future. Or at least the ability to spread this belief most effectively.
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Mansur wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:24 pm
One of the surest guarantees of prosperity and advancement in one's mindset today I think is a strong belief in "artificial intelligence" and its future. Or at least the ability to spread this belief most effectively.
Dear Mansur,

If you could elaborate a bit more on the point you were making (above), I’d greatly appreciate it. You may very well be on to something here.

Thanks,
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Forgive me, please, but I’m not one hundred percent sure of the seriousness of your questioning me. If you think "my friend, you're talking nonsense," I'd ask you to say that too. If you want me to be more specific, I'm convinced, you have to say something too. "Artificial Intelligence", the belief that that is - intelligence, is now a vast universe of (so-called) myths.

My post was attached to the post of our new member MQuiz, perhaps in a hope he will say more about that "AskSocrates" thing, - what color glasses he will recommend for the first meeting with it. Its being moved here doesn’t seem adequate to me.
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(By the way, I don't know for sure, but I'm afraid an entry, once placed elsewhere, can no longer be edited.)
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Mansur wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:02 pm Forgive me, please, but I’m not one hundred percent sure of the seriousness of your questioning me. If you think "my friend, you're talking nonsense," I'd ask you to say that too. If you want me to be more specific, I'm convinced, you have to say something too. "Artificial Intelligence", the belief that that is - intelligence, is now a vast universe of (so-called) myths.

My post was attached to the post of our new member MQuiz, perhaps in a hope he will say more about that "AskSocrates" thing, - what color glasses he will recommend for the first meeting with it. Its being moved here doesn’t seem adequate to me.
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(By the way, I don't know for sure, but I'm afraid an entry, once placed elsewhere, can no longer be edited.)
My question was/is sincere. It was more about the part of your sentence that says “[o]ne of the surest guarantees of prosperity and advancement . . .”

I found it interesting, and I honestly can’t nail down precisely how (or why) that rings true—but it does.

Also, I moved your comment to the Chatbox because I think it carries the potential for more discussion. Our member MQuiz may certainly pick right up here if so desired. My admonition about being more careful with regard to grammar and spelling stands—going forward. :)
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The american election is in full swing and of course it will be even crazier than last time. Some words from a known 9/11 hoaxer. What he says may be true/false either way however. Simply no way to know.
https://rense.com/general96/biden-crack.mp4

Edit: Saw the discussion on AI above. Allow me to share my cents since I've have a background in IT.

AI does not exist, and will probably never. We can use computers to solve set problems like chess or so. And the pattern recognition algorithms have improved. That's all folks. A "self driving" car for example is a glorified finite state machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine, and those are ALL we can do with today's technology even though the end product can be very impessive and "magical".

I doubt there will ever be a robot that we can ask to go down the grocery store and get us a pack of cigarettes. And if that day comes it will not be because of advances in "AI". AI is a buzzword that in reality represents the advances in computer power, connectivity and algorithms that have taken place the last decades.

And quantum computers is of course a hoax, just like quantum physics.

Real physics was cancelled at the turn of the 20th century because it posed a threat to the Nutwork. Michelson-Morley and Dayton Millers interferometer experiments showed that the Earth does not move at the speed it has to in order to orbit the Sun.
http://www.fondationmauriceallais.org/t ... s/?lang=en
The solution was to cancel physics as a real science through Einsteins Relativity-theory, and that's where we've been at for the last hundred years. So the work set out for a new generation of scientists is to pick up the ball where it was dropped in the late 19th century https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_9ukEAAAAYAAJ

As for astronomy our dear Simon has already had most of the fun figuring that out :-)
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SacredCowSlayer wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:47 pm My question was/is sincere. It was more about the part of your sentence that says “[o]ne of the surest guarantees of prosperity and advancement . . .”
Thanks for your kind words, though they give no clue about your take or the direction you would like to see a discussion on this thing called AI to start (or if it is not AI what it really is).
The quoted sentence could even be said by someone keyed up by enthusiasm…
My sense was simply that in certain professions (and maybe they are much more numerous than it would seem at the first glance), for the ambitious ones a good dose of enthusiasm towards AI or being fascinated by the “endless possibilities” is by no ways an unfortunate circumstance – in getting a good job and arising on the ladder of success.

Discussing the issue, however, may tend to become sensitive or touchy very quickly; it may sooner or later find one of the most unguarded patch (or the most guarded, according to other metaphor) on our shell.

ICfreely wrote (at the Psychiatry thread, if memory serves) on the apropos of the Spielberg film that in a man-vs-machine-conflict Hollywood always takes a stand on the side of the machine (even in cases where the nominal message is just the opposite, could be added). - And all other channels of propaganda are of course doing the same. In their world, man, the actual man, plays quite a secondary role if any.

The “myth” of AI, i.e. the machine’s self-detachment from human control, when viewed from other angle…
Is it not true that what we see all around the world, on all the social spheres, are but signs of this sovereignty of the machine already prevailed?

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I guess that even to those technicians (they are called and call themselves scientists today) who are actually working on and engineering the more and more complex systems, many of the preceding phases became completely forgotten or unknown. And so, when launched on waters of interpretations or representations or turning unto the public, they too are prone or more than prone to mythicize their own activity.

patrix wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:23 am …Edit: Saw the discussion on AI above. Allow me to share my cents since I've have a background in IT.

AI does not exist, and will probably never. We can use computers to solve set problems like chess or so. And the pattern recognition algorithms have improved. That's all folks. A "self driving" car for example is a glorified finite state machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine, and those are ALL we can do with today's technology even though the end product can be very impressive and "magical".

I doubt there will ever be a robot that we can ask to go down the grocery store and get us a pack of cigarettes. And if that day comes it will not be because of advances in "AI". AI is a buzzword that in reality represents the advances in computer power, connectivity and algorithms that have taken place the last decades.

And quantum computers is of course a hoax, just like quantum physics.
Agree with you and with your post, - except that little phrase „will probably”, by which, I think, you take the very edge of your statements. If it is possible for it to exist sometime in the future, why shouldn’t it exist now?

A machine, no matter how complex, remains just a machine. It’s no matter that whole generations might have been worked on it. No amount of sophistication can qualify it otherwise.

No extra things can come out of a machine that have not been put in before. Maybe only we should be more careful what we are really throwing into the machinery. (Perhaps we can agree that this is not a matter of expertise.)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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Mansur wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:24 am
patrix wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:23 am AI does not exist, and will probably never.
Agree with you and with your post, - except that little phrase „will probably”, by which, I think, you take the very edge of your statements. If it is possible for it to exist sometime in the future, why shouldn’t it exist now?
I see what you mean. It's a probably as in the Sun will probably rise every morning for as long as I live or eating only/too much vegetables is probably bad for your health. I just wanted to give my take on this since I studied AI at University level in the nineties and have followed the field closely ever since. When I think about it this was one of the things that made me understand how much BS even respected media contains. The IBM vs Kasparov chess games for example was a stunt to prop up the IBM stock (Not saying a machine cannot beat a human in chess, but it's done solely by brute force. A computer can try million moves per second).
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