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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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A curious aside...

Rousseff´s party, PT, along with Fidel Castro, is the founder of Foro de São Paulo, an organization networking socialist parties and movements (and the FARCS) throughout Latin America. The MSM spent 17 years denying the existence of this organization, despite the fact that the organization had a website with all the proceedings and agreements from their international meetings. In 2007, PT itself proudly announced it was the founder and leader of the organization, putting an end to the "conspiracy theory".

At one time in the not-so-distant past, Foro de São Paulo had, concomitantly, 11 of their members serving as presidents, all of whom elected under suspicious circumstances (defeating much more popular candidates by a ~1% margin, using SmartMatic voting software, etc.).

At the time of the 2014 election described in my previous post, the Guatemalan "Alternativa Nueva Nación" (ANN), another member of Foro de São Paulo, wrote a letter of congratulations on Rousseff´s victory. The letter (which I downloaded from the website myself) mentions an advantage of "over 3 million votes". Problem is: it is dated 22 October 2014, four days before the actual election!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jwGWXy ... sp=sharing
(In Spanish; the red highlights are mine)
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Mansur wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 1:08 pm
Sure, it may seem pretty funny (I saw this ‘Nora cat’ years ago as a simple animal curiosity), - the matter is however not that the composer was inspired by keys struck randomly on a piano, but rather that: with a habitual routine and with some talent, you can compose around random sounds any predetermined kind of music.
Yes, Mansur - music can be random and even untrained cats (like myself) can compose something by 'striking keys randomly on a piano'... :)

https://youtu.be/w9hEVEhVGBc?t=685
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Thanks for the small feedback.

Essentially, what I was saying was only: 1) that those who use the word 'artist' or 'art' would not really be able to tell what they mean by it; 2) that without the use of musical means, propaganda could not work to the effect it does today.

The latter is the one that would be essentially within the scope of this forum, or at least it could be, if there were people here who could understand how defenceless even the most educated mind is when 'addressed' by means of art but not for artistic purposes.

The 'communication' here is entirely one-way - and that is what characterizes propaganda principally, so much so that it could be used as a definition. (In contrast, the work of art is always an inexhaustible source of endless dialogue...)

And so 'nutwork', if I may use that rather unfortunate expression, is in the forefront of the interest of stifling and eradicating all such things from the life of the community. As a result, the dialogical relationship between people is also broken.

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Edit: To the question of whether the chicken was first or the egg, that is, whether people hid from each other first or whether this is the result of the actions of the powers that be, of covert or overt terror, I don't know the answer, but since pretty much everyone here seems to be voting for the latter, let me the one taking the former view.

A possible third view, however, namely that people and society are doing just fine, except that a tiny minority of people are making their lives a misery, as if for a hobby, is utter nonsense, and I would doubt not only the sound judgment of those who think or say such things, but also their very integrity.

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By the way, the words 'composition' and 'random', their meanings are mutually exclusive, don't you think, dear Simon? 'Random composition' - I think that's what they say 'oxymoron'! :wacko:

Once it has been incorporated into the composition, there can be no question of randomness.
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QUESTION TO EVERYONE:

According to this Italian website https://www.luigialbano.it/ebraismo--il-razzismo-.html

...the Talmud says that;

"Solo gli Ebrei sono esseri umani, i non-Ebrei non sono esseri umani ma bestie." (kerithuth 6b,pag78, Jebhammoth 61)"

Which translates as:

"Only Jews are human beings, non-Jews are not human beings but beasts." (kerithuth 6b,pag78, Jebhammoth 61)


Can any Talmud expert please tell me if this lurid Talmud citation is truly to be found in the Talmud? Thanks!
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simonshack wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:18 amCan any Talmud expert please tell me if this Talmud citation is truly to be found in the Talmud? Thanks!
I am certainly no expert, but the Talmud does in fact say that. And many other morally indigestible things.

For a long time editions of the Talmud that could be obtained outside Rabbinical circles were self-censored to avoid arousing indignation among non-Judaics. Anyone exposing the actual crass teachings was labeled a liar and a bigot and, of course, an "anti-Semite". However, as the Judaic establishment is becoming more and more powerful, deceptive denial strategies are gradually relaxed, and a number of Rabbis now admit the Talmud contains religious blasphemy, the endorsement of pedophilia, and license to con and kill non-Judaics, to name a few of the most well-known issues. This is obviously not the bulk of the Talmud, but it is definitely there and is upheld by orthodox Rabbis (and possibly also by some of the psychopaths who are currently busy refashioning humanity). The most reliable edition of the Talmud (i.e., the least censored) is the Steinsaltz. Expensive and hard to get.
All gentile children are animals (Yebamoth 98a).
Without doubt Judaism assigns to the goyim the status of sub-human; the degree of this sub-humanity, absolute or qualified, is open to dispute.
- Hoffman: Judaism Discovered, p. 469
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Re:Monkeypox

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Monkeypox

Here we go again with yet another ‘virus’!

Let us be quite clear from the outset that they (whomsoever ‘they’ are) are trying to foist another ‘disease’ upon us (and probably have another ‘vaccine’ in the sidelines. These people need the work, you know.

So what have we got? Nothing. Not yet, at least. As yet, the Planet of the Apes scenario is not yet with us, so we have time to debunk this latest drivel if we wanted to.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/pox

pox (n.)

"disease characterized by eruptive sores," late 15c., spelling alteration of pockes (late 13c. in this sense), plural of pocke "pustule" (see pock (n.)). Especially (after c. 1500) of syphilis.


First of all:

Here is what the U.K. government say (my bold):

Epidemiology

Monkeypox is a rare disease that is caused by infection with monkeypox virus.

Monkeypox was first discovered in 1958 when outbreaks of a pox-like disease occurred in monkeys kept for research. The first human case was recorded in 1970 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), and since then the infection has been reported in a number of central and western African countries. Most cases are reported from the DRC and Nigeria.

In 2003, monkeypox was recorded in the US when an outbreak occurred following the importation of rodents from Africa. Cases were reported in both humans and pet prairie dogs. All the human infections followed contact with an infected pet and all patients recovered. No other country outside West and Central Africa has reported similar outbreaks.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/monkeypox


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Let us take a look at the phrase ‘occurred in monkeys kept for research’ . One can imagine that these poor creatures, snatched from their normal habit, caged, frightened to death, transported to some ‘University’ or whatever, re-caged and obviously out of their depth, would they not break out into more than sweat?

Reading the bold, are we now going to be presented with a ‘dangerous pet’ scenario? Is this pox going to mutate to other animals (as with ‘swine flu’, ‘bird flu’ etc.)? Will my beloved Ginger Tom line through the next damned-demic?
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sharpstuff wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 7:27 amHere we go again with yet another ‘virus’
They are indefatigable.

The new monkeypox pseudo-epidemic is now said to affect mainly gay men. It sounds like they are trying to account for the immune deficiency caused by the clot shots. To boot, some "theorists" believe the shots contain "HIV"...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... nounce-11/
Britain’s monkeypox tally now stands at 20 after 11 fresh cases were announced on Friday...
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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simonshack wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:18 am...please tell me if this lurid Talmud citation is truly to be found in the Talmud...
If anyone is interested, here is the internet, it is just a few clicks.

The 'anti-talmud attitude' is indeed so childish that it could really be called with right 'animal' (and how many - among more mature people - have called the little ones as little animals!) After all, what is an animal? As the word says: a creature with a soul (anima). However, if a trained intellect follows this attitude, one would rather call it brutish or beastly or inhuman.

And this 'anti-Talmudism' is quite obviously, or rather quite consciously, part of the 'anti-Semitic' propaganda, of which it is very well known whose interests it serves, - even if we only raise the question in passing.

Nietzsche has a phrase that so often comes to mind: the 'idiocy of moral indignation'.

Here's the text; I don't claim to be overly engrossed in it, or to be able to say exactly what it's about, but it's clear what it's NOT about.
(Yevamot 98a:2-3)

Rava said: With regard to that which the Sages said, that a gentile has no Rava said: With regard to that which the Sages said, that a gentile has no patrilineage, do not say that it is because they are so steeped in licentiousness that they do not know the identity of their fathers with certainty, but if that identity is known, we are concerned that the paternity is recognized, with regard to the prohibition of intercourse with forbidden paternal relatives and other halakhic issues. Rather, even when it is known, we are still not concerned., do not say that it is because they are so steeped in licentiousness that they do not know the identity of their fathers with certainty, but if that identity is known, we are concerned that the paternity is recognized, with regard to the prohibition of intercourse with forbidden paternal relatives and other halakhic issues. Rather, even when it is known, we are still not concerned.

The proof is from the case of two identical twin brothers, who were one drop that was divided into two and obviously have the same father, and yet it is taught in the latter clause of the baraita: They do not perform ḥalitza and they do not perform levirate marriage, although they certainly have the same father. Learn from this that the Merciful One dispossesses the male gentile of his offspring, as it is written with regard to Egyptians: “Whose flesh is the flesh of donkeys, and whose semen is the semen of horses” (Ezekiel 23:20), i.e., the offspring of a male gentile is considered no more related to him than the offspring of donkeys and horses.

https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.98a.3?v ... l&lang2=en
https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/365815.9 ... l&lang2=en

[The same from] Acusações contra o Talmud (parte 4) - Não judeus são chamados de animais?
Yevamot 98a:2-3

...Rava disse: Em relação ao quê, os Sábios disseram, que um גּוֹי membro das nações não tem 'linhagem patrilinear'? Não diga que é porque eles estão tão impregnados de licenciosidade (pelo culto idólatra) que não saberiam dizer, a identidade de seus pais com certeza, mas se essa identidade é conhecida, nos preocupamos que a paternidade seja de fato reconhecida, no que diz respeito à proibição de relações sexuais proibidas com parentes paternos e outras questões haláhicas. Em vez disso, mesmo quando é conhecido, ainda não estamos preocupados. A comprovação seria o caso de dois irmãos gêmeos idênticos, que eram "uma gota" que foi "dividida em dois" e obviamente teriam o mesmo pai, e ainda assim foi ensinado na última cláusula do baraita : Eles não realizam o rito de ḥalitza (descalçamento) e não realizam casamento levirato (da viúva com o irmão do falecido sem filhos), embora certamente tenham o mesmo pai. Aprendemos com isso que o Misericordioso despojou haláhicamente, o גּוֹי membro das nações de sua prole, como está escrito a respeito dos egípcios: “Cuja carne é como a carne de jumentos e cujo sêmen é como sêmen de cavalos” (Ieheskel 23 : 20), ou seja, a descendência de um גּוֹי membro das nações não era considerada mais, "aparentada" com ele, do seria a "descendência de jumentos e cavalos"...

[A machine translation:]
Charges against the Talmud (part 4) - Are non-Jews called animals?
Yevamot 98a:2-3
...Rava said, Concerning what, the Sages said, that a גּוֹי member of the nations has no 'patrilineal lineage'? Do not say that it is because they are so steeped in licentiousness (by idolatrous worship) that they would not be able to tell, the identity of their parents with certainty, but if that identity is known, we worry that paternity is indeed recognized, with regard to the prohibition of forbidden sexual relations with paternal relatives and other halachic issues. Instead, even when it is known, we are still not concerned. Proof would be the case of two identical twin brothers, who were "one drop" that was "split in two" and obviously would have the same father, and yet it was taught in the last clause of the baraita : They do not perform the rite of ḥalitza (barefooting) and do not perform levirate marriage (of the widow with the brother of the deceased without children), although they certainly have the same father. We learn from this that the Merciful One divested halachically, the גּוֹי member of the nations of their offspring, as it is written concerning the Egyptians, "Whose flesh is like the flesh of asses, and whose semen is like the semen of horses" (Ieheskel 23 : 20), that is, the offspring of a גּוֹי member of the nations was considered no more, "related" to him, than would be the "offspring of asses and horses." …
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Highlights of the annual Davos gathering:
The global energy crisis is a transition that will be painful for most, but should not be resisted by nation-states tempted to preserve their own sovereignty over the global agenda.

German vice-chancellor Robert Habeck said countries should resist temptation to look after their own interests first. He added sustainability requires change to the rule of the markets.

Speaking about small and medium businesses, Norwegian finance CEO Kjerstin Braathen says the energy transition will create energy shortages and inflationary pressures, but that the pain will be worth it.

Alibaba Group president J. Michael Evans boasted about the development of an individual carbon footprint tracker to monitor what you buy, what you eat, and where/how you travel.

Australian e-Safety commissioner Julie Inman Grant says we need a recalibration of freedom of speech.

A CNN anchor, the chairman of Credit Suisse, and France’s top central banker discussed the arrival of central bank digital currencies within five years.
No need to hide or deny it any longer:
The future is being built by us.
https://www.nxtmine.com/economics/watch ... on-states/
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Simon! :wub:
It's weird having no 'edit' option on my own old posts, to fix missing images etc. (I don't appear on the forum's Global Moderator or Admin lists either).

It will be nice to be able to speak freely again :) The anti-social media Techno Borg thought police are way beyond a joke now :rolleyes:

Hope those tech savvy members can return soon.
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Welcome back Maat.

It's been tough living here Down Under this last year, as we continue to be the experimental laboratory for the Nutwork.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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Hi everyone. With the recent “active shooter” events in Buffalo, Uvalde, and Tulsa, I’ve been doing a little research but didn’t see any threads on the above to post in. Would it be preferable to lump these events into one thread, and if so, where should I post?

Also, I notice that the Sandy Hook thread has been dormant for quite a while. I bumped into a bitchute video that I think is worthy of sharing and looking at. Before I post, I just wanted to make sure that the thread wasn’t dormant on purpose.
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Hi ragtime4,

You are very welcome to create a new topic for the Buffalo, Uvalde and Tulsa events in this thread:

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewforum.ph ... 6408d1a550

As for our Sandy Hook thread (which I now notice has well over 2million views!), it's certainly not dormant for any sort of purpose! Perhaps it's just because that crass psyop was so formidably obvious that people have somewhat lost interest in it - lol! :D

Feel free to contribute with any of your research. Yes, this entire forum has been a bit 'dormant' lately - but we're all still very much alive & kicking!

I admit that I myself have been rather 'lazy' regarding the various ongoing shooting psyops (and the like) - having been totally absorbed by my Tychos research in later years. In fact, I'd be only too happy to see other members helping out exposing the countless mass deceptions that keep being relentlessly sold to the general public. After all, that's what Cluesforum is all about!
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Simon, both of my initial posts are up. With regard to Sandy Hook there was also an interaction between yourself and Brianv that I commented on.
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simonshack wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:55 pm



I'd be only too happy to see other members helping out exposing the countless mass deceptions that keep being relentlessly sold to the general public. After all, that's what Cluesforum is all about!
If the Queen was dead would they fake the Platinum Jubilee celebrations?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1533451042070876161

So a hologram of the queen drove through London in a golden carriage . And people waved at it. They waved at a hologram.

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