THE "CHATBOX"

[patrix]

Happy New Year to you Simon and all Dear Cluesforumers! 2017 has been a tumbling, enlightening and also great year for me thanks to your hard work and research.

And I think 2018 will be even better!

[pov603]

Happy new year too!

[fakeologist]

Happy New Year to you too Simon, Hoi, and all the other great cluesforum contributors. 2017 was a great year at http://fakeologist.com too, and 2018 will be even better. So many great voices and contributors emerging, inspired by like-minded clear thinkers.

[hoi.polloi]

Happy New Year to everyone! May even the pitiable shills, trolls and PsyOp agents have an actually enlightening 2018, quit their inhumane jobs and enjoy real life for a while.

Everyone else — let's chill and continue to laugh at their nonsense and help others do the same. Yes, Simon, 2018 is likely to be an amazing year to keep it real together!

Thank you to all for the incredible contributions. To animus, Glückliches neues Jahr!

[pov603]

Unbelievable!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42677604

Hawaii missile alert: False alarm sparks panic in US state
An incoming missile alert plunged residents of Hawaii into panic on Saturday morning before it was declared a false alarm.
Mobile phone users received a message saying: "Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter. This is not a drill."
State Governor David Ige apologised and said it was caused by an employee pressing the wrong button.
The US government announced there would be a full investigation

Those numbers keep rolling in...

The phone message notification, all in capital letters, went out at 08:07 (18:07 GMT).
It was corrected by email 18 minutes later but there was no follow-up mobile text for 38 minutes, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports.

18 mins, 38 mins...not “just over a quarter of an hour” or “just over a half an hour”...

[CluedIn]

That's one hell of a system - 1 button pushed by 1 person and nobody verifies?! Sure....

In addition to scaring the hell out of residents, they advised people to stick their kids down storm drains for "safety".

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01 ... ert-video/

[hoi.polloi]

18 mins, 38 mins...not “just over a quarter of an hour” or “just over a half an hour”...

Mr. Boynton, age 53, has enjoyed an exceptional career in marketing and advertising, having held senior positions for more than 25 years in highly competitive businesses in Canada, the United States and Europe and earning respect as a turnaround and transformational leader.

Mr. Boynton is widely recognized for his experience and expertise in social, digital and mobile strategy and execution, with an emphasis on generating revenue and providing meaningful content for customers. Also, his background in marketing and advanced data analytics and monetization will assist Torstar in offering new and unique opportunities for its advertising and marketing clients.

Since 2014 Mr. Boynton has served as Chief Marketing Officer of the Americas Coalitions business of Aimia Inc., a leading data-driven marketing and loyalty analytics company that owns and operates Aeroplan and other loyalty programs across the globe. At Aimia, he was responsible for leading a team that transformed Aeroplan, resulting in improved revenues, advanced data capabilities for marketing clients and overall operating results.

Before joining Aimia Mr. Boynton was Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer for Rogers Communications Inc., one of Canada’s largest media and communications companies. Prior to working for 12 years at Rogers Communications, he held senior executive positions with companies including Sprint Canada, AT&T Canada, Scott’s Hospitality and Pepsico.

Mr. Boynton is Co-Vice Chair of the Toronto Region Board of Trade and a member of the board of the Canadian Marketing Association and Prostate Cancer Canada.

Born and raised in Toronto, Mr. Boynton is a graduate of the University of Western Ontario, Richard Ivey School of Business.

He will be the 11th President and CEO of Torstar and the 10th Publisher of the Toronto Star in the newspaper’s 125-year history.

“We are very pleased John Boynton has agreed to serve as President and Chief Executive Officer of Torstar and Publisher of the Toronto Star,” said John Honderich, Chair of the Board of Torstar. “John is a proven strategic leader and a turnaround specialist with a unique blend of marketing and advertising experience that will benefit both Torstar’s newspapers and its digital businesses.

https://www.thestar.com/about/newsrelea ... -star.html

Last March, of 2017, Mr. Boynton became President of Torstar, a Toronto-based media company that owns Oahu Publications Inc. a.k.a. Black Press Ltd. which runs the Hawaiian paper "Honolulu Star-Advertiser". Perhaps we should ask Mr. Boynton or Mr. Black why their company has certain policies of reporting numbers.

[pov603]

The big spin-off will be large federal contracts for air-raid shelters (with WiFi of course...) and the implementation of a new digital missile warning system (after the obligatory expensive audit) again, expending large amounts of public funds whilst ramping up the fear factor in the sheeple...

[Kham]

Should we be using the term sheeple. It’s derogitory and most likely given to us by disinformation agents so that we feel superior to those with less knowledge and to feel that we are at the pinnacle of understanding. How do you know you wouldn’t panick in such a situation? After all, The military in Hawaii did bomb itself on December 7, 1941, even if it was highly localized in Oahu. Does any of know how far the military is willing to go with one of their campaigns? Can any of us gaurantee these hoaxes have zero civilian casualties? Promoted victims or family members of victims most often appear fake but how about unpromoted victims of which we might not have knowledge.

About the word sheeple, it implies that we were with our special knowledge are awake to some sort of chicanery. Consider that we can’t confirm the perpetrators, although some of us deduce it’s the military. I’m starting to think hoaxes are just a tool that empire and its stakeholders use to push certain agendas, like media is a tool used by governments, corporations and any individual with enough cash to purchase news station air time whose also going along with the false reality that empire has created.

We also can’t confirm which parts of the hoaxes are real or false, although media fakery is a window into contrived images. And by the way, just because an image is fake, doesn’t mean the event or parts of the event didn’t happen. Seems like street theatre and getting the public (and unaware first responders) involved in some way strengthens the hoaxes.

We also don’t know the extent of a campaign of which a particular hoax plays a part. So what do we really know in reality? Not a whole lot. Perhaps we can call those individuals who are unaware just people and leave the dehumanizing words like sheeple and normies as a tell-tale sign of disinformation agents.

[fbenario]

Should we be using the term sheeple. It’s derogitory and most likely given to us by disinformation agents so that we feel superior to those with less knowledge and to feel that we are at the pinnacle of understanding. How do you know you wouldn’t panick in such a situation? After all, The military in Hawaii did bomb itself on December 7, 1941, even if it was highly localized in Oahu. Does any of know how far the military is willing to go with one of their campaigns? Can any of us gaurantee these hoaxes have zero civilian casualties? Promoted victims or family members of victims most often appear fake but how about unpromoted victims of which we might not have knowledge.
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We also can’t confirm which parts of the hoaxes are real or false, although media fakery is a window into contrived images. And by the way, just because an image is fake, doesn’t mean the event or parts of the event didn’t happen. Seems like street theatre and getting the public (and unaware first responders) involved in some way strengthens the hoaxes.

You did not exercise your normal care. What's up with all the misspellings?

As for the underlined sentence, I trust you know the phrase 'Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus'.

[Kham]

Apologies about the spelling errors.

About “Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus”

‘Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus is a legal maxim which means false in one thing, false in everything. A Roman legal principle indicating that a witness who willfully falsifies one matter is not credible on any matter.’

The phrase is a legal definition on the credibility of a witness, not a logical conclusion whereby if one thing is faked then all things in an event are faked. Would be very time consuming to prove such a thing and as of yet has not been done for any hoaxed event posted here at Clues Forum.

Your phrase would relate to:

If P is false with proof, then Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z are false without proof.

I can’t accept that, but to be sure the other details of the hoaxes event are suspect and worthy of further examination.

[bongostaple]

Just a quick one, I saw a news story just now about some couple with 13 kids chained to beds, one of them is 17 and managed to 'escape' and alert the authorities.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42698562

First thought - bullshit as usual.

Second thought - hey, Ace Baker's back!

Good old Ace Baker:



New Bad Father Ace:

[pov603]

@kham
Fair enough about my use of the word "sheeple".
It was aimed more at the people in the world who are aware that things aren't as they could/should be but choose not to do anything about it rather than implying any superiority over the general masses.
I shall leave you to guess if I wrote/edited this post with a sheepish smile on my face...

[CluedIn]

I thought he actually resembled this gentleman, and the wife's eye make-up sure does fit the Adams Family look.

[Prescient]

Happy new year to all.

Hoaxsters conventions - keeping the stories alive.

In December a delegation from Manchester visited Boston, and this week our American cousins returned the favour, sending a group to spend a week in and around our city.

People who had been injured in the Boston Marathon visited Orlando to help people injured in the Pulse Nightclub shooting in 2016, and then people from Boston and Orlando visited Las Vegas after the mass shooting there last year.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-14174970

"Manchester and Boston - two cities which have suffered devastating bomb attacks - come together"

That's one way of putting it. Valentine ménage à trois next in Paris?