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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:23 pm

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NO MORE GHASTLY TERROR EVENTS?... :huh:

What's going on lately? I was used to some hysterical psyop occuring at least twice weekly around the world - be it some lone gunman's shooting spree in a school or a rock concert, the regular "ISIS attack" by those horrid bearded men who hate our way of life - or assorted surreal & deadly disasters followed by fund raisers for the "victim's families".

What's the Nutwork up to of late? Are they just too busy planning the rogue Venezuela putsch / take over?

As it is, this hasn't gone unnoticed by Alex Fraser - a Facebook "acquaintance" of mine (from the UK), who wrote this today :

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I can only hope the Nutwork's seemingly novel agenda won't leave us all without a job, here at Cluesforum ! :P (<tongue in & out of cheek)

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Another droll reply (not included in my above screenshot) to that Facebook exchange - by one Kris Eyvindson :

Kris Eyvindson wrote:They should have something go wrong at the space station, where it is questionable if they will survive for a couple weeks and it ends up crashing in the ocean after they rescue everyone with rockets.


Some folks are apparently waking up to the pathetic antics of our "Daily Deceivers" - thank goodness. :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Flabbergasted on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:48 am

simonshack wrote:I can only hope the Nutwork's seemingly novel agenda won't leave us all without a job, here at Cluesforum!

Perhaps the Nutwork has decided to give you a well-earned vacation from ghastly terror events as a birthday gift :P

Tanti auguri from my better half and me.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby patrix on Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 am

Flabbergasted » February 5th, 2019, 4:48 am wrote:
simonshack wrote:I can only hope the Nutwork's seemingly novel agenda won't leave us all without a job, here at Cluesforum!

Perhaps the Nutwork has decided to give you a well-earned vacation from ghastly terror events as a birthday gift :P

Tanti auguri from my better half and me.


Or perhaps they've been busy producing this TV series that I stumbled upon yesterday flicking through the channels.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7OTiGsZcUo

Being a white middle aged man, I would say the Nutwork has gone to great lengths demonizing my kind. We are pedofilic meetooing serial killers that drive around in our SUVs not giving a shit about the environment. And if we do take the bus on occasion, we are manspreading up two seats...

But alas, Chris Hadfield is a white male I despise. Not for the made up reasons above however, but because he's a pitiful liar that lies to our children.

Edit:

Oh wow. Look at this. The nerve...

https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chr ... xploration

How about a consumer information site that explains that what this prick will "teach" you for a hefty sum are complete and utter lies?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 am

Thanks, dearest Flabbergasted !

warm hugs to you and to your sweet better half. :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:17 am

I had a cosmic laugh as I bumped into this children's book on Amazon last night... :lol:

Simon and the Solar System

"In the end, Simon becomes an expert on all the planets and even the Sun, but his teacher has a surprise for him at the end!"


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https://www.amazon.com/Simon-Solar-Syst ... 0999555405
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby tomratliff on Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 am

simonshack » 2019 02 04, 22:23 GMT wrote:*
NO MORE GHASTLY TERROR EVENTS?... :huh:

What's going on lately? I was used to some hysterical psyop occuring at least twice weekly around the world - be it some lone gunman's shooting spree in a school or a rock concert, the regular "ISIS attack" by those horrid bearded men who hate our way of life - or assorted surreal & deadly disasters followed by fund raisers for the "victim's families".

What's the Nutwork up to of late? Are they just too busy planning the rogue Venezuela putsch / take over?


U.S. government shutdown ;)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Kham on Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:24 am

RASH OF MASS SHOOTING IN LAST FEW MONTHS

My high school students have been inundated with reports on their social media sites about a serious rash of mass shootings over the last few months. The big kick-off started with the Thousand Oakes shooting in California where 13 people died on November 7, 2018.

https://www.abc15.com/homepage-showcase ... california

Then the rest of the lesser shootings trickled in up through January of this year.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting

My students were pretty scared and a few of them even stayed home for a few days feeling that all hell had broke loose in these here United States. It seemed pretty clear that teenagers were the target audience.

The Moral of the Story: Although you might not be the target audience and therefore are not aware of it there is always a psyop somewhere.
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COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:18 am

Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making

When we say one thing but do another, or hold inconsistent beliefs, psychologists call it cognitive dissonance. The term was developed by Leon Festinger, who first used it in 1957. The classic experiment in this field was published by Festinger and James Carlsmith in 1959. In it, they asked: “What happens to a person’s private opinion if he is forced to do or say something contrary to that opinion?” In their experiment, they had 71 men complete two tasks. First, the men were asked to put 12 round wooden spools into a tray, empty the tray and put the spools back in the tray, repeatedly, for half an hour.
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Then the participants were given a board containing 48 square wooden pegs. They were asked to turn each peg by a quarter turn clockwise, then another quarter turn, repeatedly, again for half an hour. While they did this, a researcher watched and wrote things down. These were intentionally boring tasks. Really, really boring.
Although the participants thought it was their performance that was being measured, it was actually what came next that interested the researchers. After their two boring tasks, participants were taken back into the waiting room. They were told that the person sitting there was the next participant. For one-third of the participants, they simply sat down without anything else being mentioned. For the other two-thirds, however, the researcher asked whether they would lie to the next participant. They would even be paid for their lie. Half were told that they would be paid $1 for their lie, and the other half were told that they would be paid $20 for their lie (which in the 1950s was a lot). When they said yes, the researcher then handed them a piece of paper, and instructed them to make the points that were written on it: “It was very enjoyable”, “I had a lot of fun”, “I enjoyed myself”, “It was very interesting”, “It was intriguing”, “It was exciting”.
What the researchers really wanted to know was what impact this lie, and the compensation for it, would have on participants’ rating of the task. They wondered whether participants would actually come to think they enjoyed the boring task, just because they told someone else it was fun. And how would being paid influence this?
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Who do you think rated the experiment as the most enjoyable? The control group, who had not been asked to lie, rated the task as boring and said that they would not do it again. The participants paid $20 also rated the task negatively. However, the participants paid $1 rated the experiment as far more enjoyable than the other two groups, and were more likely to say they would sign up to participate in similar experiments in the future.
What happened? Being paid $1 was probably not seen by the participants as sufficient incentive to lie. Accordingly, they experienced cognitive dissonance. “Why did I say that it was enjoyable when it wasn’t? Surely not for a measly $1?” Since the participants could not go back and change their behaviour, or un-participate in the experiment, the option available to them was to change their belief – it must have actually been enjoyable.For the $20 condition this was not necessary, as they could explain their behaviour as the result of the hefty and easy financial incentive. This was the first of many experiments to show that we often bring our beliefs in line with our behaviour, and that money can change the way we do this.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby thisisunreal on Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:36 pm

Where does certainty come from and how do you generate it?

I would say that the simplest way to garner it is through repetition. Surely this is why the planet believes in democracy. It is the number one talking point on Western media political shows.

Similarly, the BBC feature holocaust related items at least twice weekly, often more (either directly or indirectly). This highly repetitive pattern forming content helps to solidify certain notions in the minds.

The BBC certainly didn't disappoint this morning (article linked below).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47071241

Pilots landing after dark at Budapest international airport will soon have a new star to navigate by - a giant Star of David.

It will be lit up from the side of a tower resembling stacked cattle trucks. The illumination will be so bright that permission was sought from Hungarian airport authorities.



A reminder of the holocaust and the dangers of flying rolled into one, but with the bonus of tying in one of the seminal fiascos of our time with a somewhat vainglorious picture that is supposed to resemble...…. "cattle trucks"?


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<a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/wBj4bNtn/STAR.png' border='0' alt='STAR'/></a>
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Re: COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby tomratliff on Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:19 pm

pov603 » 2019 02 07, 08:18 GMT wrote:Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making


Hey pov603. This is indeed relevant. And footage from this same study can be found in "The 9/11 Show" beginning at around the 9:40 mark:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGsWhFKlXHA

All the best,
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Re: COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby SacredCowSlayer on Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:30 pm

tomratliff » February 11th, 2019, 12:19 pm wrote:
pov603 » 2019 02 07, 08:18 GMT wrote:Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making


Hey pov603. This is indeed relevant. And footage from this same study can be found in "The 9/11 Show" beginning at around the 9:40 mark:

All the best,
TomR


Thank you TomR. It has been a long time since I watched that. I recommend (to our readers) checking out that portion of the video, since the concept is somewhat difficult to reduce to writing.

To me, they key is understanding the lengths to which people will go (subconsciously) to resolve (or mitigate) the incongruity between the competing beliefs and/or behaviors.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Mansur on Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:40 am

thisisunreal » February 11th, 2019, 6:36 pm wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47071241

Pilots landing after dark at Budapest international airport will soon have a new star to navigate by - a giant Star of David.

It will be lit up from the side of a tower resembling stacked cattle trucks. The illumination will be so bright that permission was sought from Hungarian airport authorities.

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The site has been ready for more than three years but is still empty because of a certain ongoing political affair (between the government allegedly saving face of the policy of the wartime regime, and the Jewish organizations --- or the only organization here, a united one; „the holocaust was a worldly affair and not a religious one” says the government).

And, moreover, it is situated kilometers away from the airport, something 8-10 kilometers or more, almost in the downtown.

Some photo of the empty facility:
https://24.hu/belfold/2018/07/12/negy-e ... gnyitasat/

„Sorsok háza” -- (that is „the house of fates”) may be an allusion to the book „Fatelessness” for which its (Hungarian) now late writer received Nobel Prize in Literary in 2002.

Maybe I'll take the trouble one day and visit the site at evening to find out what strange lights are used there...
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:51 pm

I like the way the “SoD” (pun intended) comes out of the “left” but firmly plants itself prominently in front of the “right”...

Edit: typo
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:54 pm

@tomratliff
Many thanks for the link to the video, another interesting slant on things (will get round to watching completely in next few days).
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby ICfreely on Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:58 pm

Is conscientious curiosity dead? Is critical thinking dead? Is emotional intelligence dead? Are we the post-modern soulless automatons of the New Dark Age?

IS GOD DEAD? AT 50

The story by TIME religion editor John Elson—and the gut-punch question on the cover, the magazine’s first to include only text—inspired countless angry sermons and 3,421 letters from readers…

Those three words that had stirred debate among a few radical theologians had suddenly captured the imaginations—and fears—of the nation. They also captured a moment in time. Thomas Altizer, another death-of-God theologian featured in the story, believes the same story today would have a far more muted reaction. “At least I can’t imagine it,” he tells TIME. “We are in a very different world.”

The question had been brewing for a few years among Hamilton and Altizer and their colleagues, notably Paul van Buren and Gabriel Vahanian. (Hamilton and Vahanian both died in 2012; van Buren in 1998.) In 1966, Altizer and Hamilton published a book of essays on the topic, Radical Theology and the Death of God, right around when the TIME story came out.

http://time.com/isgoddead/



Want to live forever? You just have to make it to 2050

Humans have been trying to find a way to dodge death for years.

Ancient Greek alchemists tried to create a “philosopher’s stone” that would let people live forever, but humans have yet to beat death.

However, Dr Pearson tells The Sun that there are a number of different ways we could live forever — as long as you can make it to the year 2050.

If you kick the bucket before then, you might be part of the last generation of humans to die of old age.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inventions/want-to-live-forever-you-just-have-to-make-it-to-2050/news-story/4c70508f0f48b6fdfb3ebed09ab85754



insitro: Rethinking drug discovery using machine learning
Daphne Koller (founder & CEO of insitro)

Modern medicine has given us effective tools to treat some of the most significant and burdensome diseases. Widespread use of vaccines and antibiotics has considerably reduced the risk of death from most infectious diseases across large parts of the world. Antiviral therapies are allowing patients with HIV to live an almost normal life, and patients with hepatitis C can now be cured. Advanced therapies for cancer, including targeted therapies and immunotherapies, are improving long-term outcomes for certain groups of patients…

At the same time, it is becoming consistently more challenging to develop new therapeutics… One explanation for this phenomenon is that drug development is now intrinsically harder: Many (perhaps most) of the “low-hanging fruit” — druggable targets that have a significant effect on a large population — have been discovered. If so, then the next phase of drug development will need to focus on drugs that are more specialized — whose effects may be context-specific, and which apply only to a subset of patients…

What might another approach look like? I’m a longtime machine learning (ML) researcher…

https://medium.com/@daphne_38275/insitro-rethinking-drug-discovery-using-machine-learning-dcb0371870ee
http://insitro.com/index



Idiocracy - Future Hospital Visit

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUVo0xVAqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUVo0xVAqE
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