Was J.F.K. murdered?

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Unread postby brianv on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:03 pm

corsarino 4 Jun 5 2010, 10:27 PM wrote: There was in Rome a very important clue: The Permindex Company.

The Pemanent Industrial Exhibition was located in Piazza Marconi Roma EUR.

The Permindex had a logo on the top of his building " World Trade Center".

The Permindex was connected with Clay Shaw and other people from "New Orleans-Dallas Team".

On the Net there is the real story of Permindex; I am confident with this story.


I recently watched the Parallax View - Warren Beatty is lured into working for the Parallax Corporation as an operative but really is being groomed for patsy-dom, a blind for the Company to carry out political assassination. As a movie it's a stinker, but the name resonates nicely with Permindex. Currently reading what's out there!

"Permindex next moved to Rome where it set itself up as the World Trade Centre (CMC) in the buildings of what had been the World War 2 World Exhibition Centre. "

"In 1962 the Centre was opened at a ceremony attended by top Italian government and political figures. The set-up once again seems to have appeared to be fairly mysterious to outside observers and by 1964 more bad publicity appears to have been generated and they shut down and moved to South Africa.(26)"

At a guess I'd say they are in based in the so-called land of Israel now!

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/lobster.htm
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:41 am

At a guess I'd say they are in based in the so-called land of Israel now!




That might, indeed, be the truth. Permindex had many connections to the State of Israel.

-One of the chief shareholders in Permindex was Banque De Credit International (BCI) of Geneva. This bank was founded by Tibor Rosenbaum -- Rosenbaum was the long-time Director of Finance and Supply for Mossad. This bank was also the primary vehicle for money-laundering used by Meyer Lansky, head of the Jewish mob and the "boss of bosses" in organized crime", who had close ties to Israel himself. BCI financed the covert operations of Israeli intelligence and was used for 90% of Israel's purchases of foreign arms.

-The CMC, Permindex's parent company, was founded by George Mandel, who, according to Louis Bloomfield, was the mastermind behind the CMC/Permindex. Mandel was a European-Jewish Freemason.

-Clay Shaw, deeply implicated in the JFK Assassination, was a director of both CMC and Permindex, as well as the director of the New Orleans International Trade Mart (World Trade Center of New Orleans). Shaw's best friends in New Orleans were Edgar and Edith Stern, who were Jewish Zionists, strong supporters of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), and involved in the Israeli nuclear smuggling in America (Particularly NUMEC). The Sterns were key financial angels of Israel in America and were behind WDSU of the mainstream media, which was particularly involved in establishing Oswald's "Communist" background, even before the assassination. Shaw's superior at the International Trade Mart was Rudolph Hecht, a leading figure in the New Orleans Jewish community. Hecht and his associates sponsored Shaw. Hecht controlled the CIA-connected Standard Fruit -- a director of it, under Hecht, was Seymour Weiss, who was a member of the crime syndicate of Jewish super-Zionist Meyer Lansky -- Weiss was alleged to be the CIA superior of Gordon Novel, a suspect in the assassination. Shaw was also an associate of Louis Bloomfield, who will now be discussed.

-The Chairman of Permindex's board was Louis Mortimer Bloomfield, a Zionist and an intelligence operative for the US and Britain. Until it's re-location to Rome, Permindex HQ was in Bloomfield's hometown and base of operations, Montreal. He held half the shares of Permindex and CMC for "for party or parties unknown". Bloomfield was an ardent Jewish Zionist who had trained Haganah, the Jewish army. He helped establish the State of Israel and it's intelligence agency, Mossad. Bloomfield was reputed to control the Israel Continental Company. He was also a director of the Israeli-Canadian Maritime League. He was the Canadian Chairman of the Histadrut Campaign -- the Histadrut was Israel's national labor federation, and owned over 1/3 of Israel's gross national product. It also owned Israel's second largest bank (the Bank Hapoalim) Bloomfield, a lawyer, was a founding partner of Phillips, Vineberg, Bloomfield, and Goodman -- a law firm representing the interests of the Bronfman family. The Bronfman family is one of the most powerful Zionist families in the world -- their empire is based in Canada. It's worked with Meyer Lansky's crime ring for a long time in the illegal liquor trade. The Bronfmans have always been in key positions of super-Zionist organizations like the World Jewish Congress and The Mega Group. There are many connections between the JFK assassination and the Bronfmans. In 1963, Bloomfield transferred 7.5 million into BCI, the Mossad bank that served as the key financial/shareholder entity behind Permindex, through a charitable organization that he controlled. This transfer was alleged to be an effort to save the bank, for it's survival was allegedly threatened when the government of Liberia was unable to repay a significant loan it had received from it. Bloomfield was recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to become a recruitment chief for the FBI's Counter-Intelligence/Espionage division (Division Five), and he, thus, became a partner of William Sullivan, the chief of FBI Division Five. Sullivan was a close friend of James Angleton and Angleton's "man" in the Bureau. James Angleton, of course, was the Mossad's man in the CIA, and the head of the Agency's Israeli desk.

-Ferenc Nagy (Former Hungarian Prime Minister and CIA operative) was a director of Permindex, and was closely tied to the allies of Israel inside the Agency and to the Anti-Castro Cuban colony in Miami, which was jointly controlled by the CIA and the Lansky crime ring.

-Paes Sera revealed one of the high-level financial backers of Permindex as Dr. David Biegun, the national secretary of the National Committee for Labor Israel, Inc. -- the American affiliate of the Histadrut, which was chiefly funded by Louis Bloomfield, the "top man" at Permindex. Biegun oversaw Permindex/CMC's liquidation when it was expelled from Switzerland.

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Though, it is likely that Permindex was ultimately a front operation for the interests of the Vatican/Rome. Bloomfield, a long-time intelligence operative, a powerful Zionist, and ostensibly the central figure behind Permindex, was a Knight of Malta:


Stephenson incorporated these mobsters into the SOE's network, on the original pretext that they would be useful in anti-Nazi activities in the United States and Italy. Stephenson's top aide in the project was Major Louis Mortimer Bloomfield, who, although a Canadian subject, became the principal recruiter for the FBI's Division 5 counterintelligence section. Bloomfield, of the elite Order of Malta (Hospitallers), until his death in 1984. It was precisely this network that was utilized for the post-war creation of Israel.

http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com ... -anti.html



Clay Shaw, director of Permindex/CMC, was also a Knight of Malta:


Clay Shaw was a Knight of Malta. He was the head of the international trade mart in New Orleans. Roman Catholic, homosexual, multi-millionaire, lived lavishly, etc. Clay Shaw was the personal friend of David Ferry. David Ferry was a CIA agent, and was also a pilot for Carlos Marchello-the CIA and the Mafia together. Clay Shaw also was a friend of Lee Oswald, and Garrison proves it.

Here we have Clay Shaw, who was in the CIA. It was admitted by Richard Helms that Clay Shaw was a 'contract agent' for the CIA, and the highest security involved in the Kennedy assassination, because he gets an attorney for Dean Andrews who's subpoenaed by Garrison. So, if Clay Shaw is involved, he's a Knight of Malta, he's high CIA, and he can't go down.

http://www.whale.to/b/kennedy_q.html



Another person on Permindex's 1958 incorporation papers is Roy Cohn -- he was Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel. McCarthy, of course, was a devoutly Roman Catholic, pro-Jesuit graduate of the Jesuits' Marquette University. What's more, Cohn was with the Saxe, Bacon and Bolan law firm -- one of the founding partners, Thomas Bolan, is described as a "a fervently establishment Catholic". Bolan was, like his friend Ronald Reagan, a Knight of Malta:



In addition to those listed in the article, the following are some other Knights of SMOM of interest:[...]
Thomas Bolan: law partner of Roy Cohn. Bolan is also Counsel to the Human Life Foundation of which former CIA officer and Managing Editor of National Review, Priscilla Buckley (William's sister) is a Director.

http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.4.html



Furthermore, Knight of Malta Bolan and Roy Cohn's law firm represented the Archbishop of New York:
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/ncrmay891415.html

So, Cohn worked directly under a Jesuit-trained Devout Catholic during the Communist Hunt, and was a law partner of a devoutly Roman Catholic Knight of Malta at a law firm that represented the Archbishop of New York.

And now get this -- Permindex/CMC were both based in Rome. In light of the fact that Louis Bloomfield was a Knight of Malta, I doubt that this is purely coincidental.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/lobster.htm
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:57 am

Here it is, documented on Jesuit professor and JFK debunker John McAdams' site -- Ruby's birthdate, today, is still in dispute:


Jack Ruby, born Jacob Rubenstein, was the fifth of his parents' eight living children. There is much confusion about his exact birth date. School records report it as June 23, April 25, March 13, and, possibly, March 3, 1911. Other early official records list his date of birth as April 21 and April 26, 1911. During his adult life the date Ruby used most frequently was March 25, 1911. His driver's license, seized following his arrest, and his statements to the FBI on November 24, 1963, listed this date. However, the police arrest report for November 24 gave his birth date as March 19, 1911.

Since the recording of births was not required in Chicago prior to 1915, Ruby's birth may never have been officially recorded.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ruby1.htm



And it is very fascinating that there are rumors that he is still alive. Perhaps confusion of his birth-date is a part of covering that up?

On Page 254 of the late Jim Garrison's excellent book On The Trail Of The Assassins, we read about evidence that Ruby worked for the FBI and, perhaps, the CIA:


Jack Ruby had a special relationship with the Dallas office of the F.B.I. In 1959 Ruby met at least nine times with one of the Dallas Bureau's agents. At that time he also purchased a microphone-equipped wrist watch, a bugged tie clip, a telephone bug, and a bugged attache case. These facts suggested that Jack Ruby was probably a regular informant with the local office.

But Ruby may well have been working for the C.I.A. also. Individuals on the payroll of one agency are sometimes hired as contract employees for another agency within the intelligence community. During 1969, the same year in which Ruby was meeting with the F.B.I. agent, he took two flights to Cuba. One was for eight days. The other was an overnight turn-around flight. Earlier in the 1950s he had consulted a war supplies dealer about the purchase of 100 jeeps, one of the most valuable items for the rebels in Cuba whom the C.I.A. was supporting at that time. On a later occasion, he was deeply involved in gun running for the Cuban rebels supported by the Agency.



Both agencies, at the time, were headed by members of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. Ruby's links to the Vatican's American intelligence network help establish his motivations for involvement.

Ruby:
-Allegedly killed Oswald before he could have a trial.
-Knew David Ferrie and Clay Shaw, and participated in the planning with them.
-Drove one of the gunmen to the Grassy Knoll and acted as the "getaway driver" for members of the assassination team.
-Was at Parkland Hospital before the "Magic Bullet" was found.
-Was in the crowds correcting people about CIA/Communist-related Oswald information.


Furthermore, Ruby's connections to Richard M. Nixon (A political creation/protege of Jesuit-trained Prescott Bush), who was in Dallas that day, are well-documented. The following FBI document shows that Ruby worked for Nixon prior to the assassination:
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/nixonruby.htm
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:48 am

I've read information that more-or-less confirms the report that Clay Shaw/Bertrand was a Freemason. It turns out the International Trade Mart of New Orleans, which he established and directed, was 33 stories high:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=Bgr59MO ... 22&f=false

John F. Kennedy was planning on ending the Vietnam War. The Vietnam War was a "Papal crusade" that was organized, covertly run, and wanted by the Vatican. This is documented in-detail by Avro Manhattan in his book Vietnam: Why Did We Go?, which can be read here:
http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

It might be a good time to remember that Clay Shaw was a Knight of Malta and that both the FBI and CIA at the time were so heavily directed/controlled by Knights of Malta and Jesuit trainees that it might be accurate to call them the Catholic Intelligence Agency and the Federal Bureau of Inquisition. The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), overseeing all of Military-Intelligence, was at-the-time headed by it's founding director, Joseph Francis Carroll, a devout Roman Catholic who was trained by the Jesuits. The Secret Service was headed by James Rowley, a devout Roman Catholic whose brother, Francis, was a Jesuit priest. Another fact to add to the list is that Lyndon Johnson attended classes at the Jesuits' Georgetown University and was a close friend of a Roman Catholic priest who resided at a Jesuit church.

So, John F. Kennedy wanted to end the Vatican's Asian crusade and weaken their primary intelligence arm inside America (the CIA) and their central bank (Federal Reserve). Then, he's assassinated.

At the time of his assassination, the following American institutions are controlled by the Vatican:
-The CIA
-The FBI
-Military Intelligence (DIA)
-Secret Service
-Office of the Vice President

After decades of thorough research, mountains of proof has been documented that clearly establishes the above agencies as being behind the planning, execution, and cover-up of the assassination that made Jesuit-trained Freemason Lyndon B. Johnson President.
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Unread postby repentantandy on Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:32 pm

A question for SimonJCP:

Much of your well-summarized presentation regarding the Bloomfield/Bronfman/Lansky sponsorship of the Dallas hit squad parallels the work of two long-time comrades and conspiracy researchers who, until very recently, were both in the employ of the "godfather" of historical revisionism, Willis Carto (father-in-law to that pioneer Oswald defender, the mysterious Jonestown survivor Mark Lane).

Those two former good buddies (who now virulently despise one another, possibly because of a clever COINTELPRO intervention) are: Michael Collins Piper and Christopher Bollyn.

Assuming you are familiar with Piper and Bollyn's deep digging into the Mossad/Mafia/CIA triumvirate, do you endorse or find fault with their discoveries and conclusions? :unsure:
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:03 pm

repentantandy @ Jun 10 2010, 08:32 PM wrote: A question for SimonJCP:

Much of your well-summarized presentation regarding the Bloomfield/Bronfman/Lansky sponsorship of the Dallas hit squad parallels the work of two long-time comrades and conspiracy researchers who, until very recently, were both in the employ of the "godfather" of historical revisionism, Willis Carto (father-in-law to that pioneer Oswald defender, the mysterious Jonestown survivor Mark Lane).

Those two former good buddies (who now virulently despise one another, possibly because of a clever COINTELPRO intervention) are: Michael Collins Piper and Christopher Bollyn.

Assuming you are familiar with Piper and Bollyn's deep digging into the Mossad/Mafia/CIA triumvirate, do you endorse or find fault with their discoveries and conclusions? :unsure:


Michael Collins Piper's book contains a wealth of valuable information about the Zionist/Israeli connections to many of the assassination-conspiracy players and establishes quite a few clear Zionist motives.

What I take issue with is the absence of any mention of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) in the book, a Vatican military order that has been called "the Pope's militia" and that counts many key players named in his book among it's members. Further, he omits the documented Vatican/Jesuit role in organizing/fomenting the Vietnam War. He also ignores evidence that the Vatican/Jesuits have controlled the CIA, FBI, and Military-Intelligence since their founding, as well as the evidence that the Federal Reserve is linked to the Vatican.

While I realize that he is not writing about the Vatican, the omission of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta is worrisome.

To the book's credit, it mentions that Nazi Reinhard Gehlen trained Israeli Mossad teams/agents. What it doesn't mention is that Gehlen was a Knight of Malta -- he was only one of the Knights of Malta who played a key role in the CIA at the time. Piper's main "CIA" player, Angleton, was another Knight. Allen Dulles (First CIA Chief), John McCone (CIA Chief at the time of the assassination), William Donovan (CIA founder), and many CIA operatives (GHWB, Clay Shaw, William Buckley, etc.) were also Knights.

I was also unaware that Frank Sturgis, in addition to working for the Vatican's CIA, had done work for the Zionist Israeli Mossad. And the expose on Jack Ruby's connections to Israeli Intelligence, as well as the Bronfman connections, are very interesting.
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Unread postby simonshack on Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:46 pm

As you all may know, I have also been linked to the Vatican.
As yet, this has not been rectified, nor have I had received any apologies for this inane claim. So, I think it is time for SimonJCP to do an authentic, ballsy statement about this lame affair.

Still today, one can find this idiotic 'radioshow' by Markus Allen on the internets. SimonJCP- you participated in this radioshow. Your words are clear - it doesn't matter if it was Markus Allen's initiative. It's embarassing - but not for me ! ;)

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/2ZUkUQgJfMaKg
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:36 pm

simonshack 4 Jun 13 2010, 10:46 PM wrote: As you all may know, I have also been linked to the Vatican.
As yet, this has not been rectified, nor have I had received any apologies for this inane claim. So, I think it is time for SimonJCP to do an authentic, ballsy statement about this lame affair.

Still today, one can find this idiotic 'radioshow' by Markus Allen on the internets. SimonJCP- you participated in this radioshow. Your words are clear - it doesn't matter if it was Markus Allen's initiative. It's embarassing - but not for me ! ;)

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/2ZUkUQgJfMaKg


To the contrary, I believe I have apologized to you more than once now. And I believe that the first apology was made a considerable amount of time ago (On 911movement.org) -- what's more, it was an apology you accepted, Simon. That was the end of that, "all good", or so I thought.

Again, you can't ask me to delete the audio. It's not on a website that I have any control over. It's as silly as requesting that Alex SparkOfLife have the audio taken down -- Markus is not my son or employee and I am not the deity he worships. The audio is not hosted or advertised on my blog, youtube channel, or twitter mini-blog. My advice to you would be to talk to the person whose website it's hosted on.

And, if what you want is another statement/apology from me, the following sentence has been typed with absolute sincerity:

I do not think that your late father's connection to the UN proves you to be an agent of any kind, nor do I think that your residence in Rome is any kind of proof either, nor is your claim that missiles were used on 9/11, a claim which I cannot discount or take serious issue with. I do believe that the Norwegian LinkedIn account is of a different person. I apologize for my statements in the audio. The UN connection seemed significant to me then, but your response in the immediate aftermath of the audio's release swayed me.

I hope that we can put all of this behind us now, Simon.
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Unread postby godzilla on Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:17 am

I'm just a simpleton. But I'd say SimonJCP is not what he says he is. Just my simpleton observation.
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." - Henry Kissinger
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:10 pm

godzilla 4 Jun 14 2010, 04:17 AM wrote:I'm just a simpleton. But I'd say SimonJCP is not what he says he is. Just my simpleton observation.


If you want me to be frank with you G, I think that you'd suspect the same about anyone who bumped into Simon on the street and didn't immediately apologize, then kneel down to beg forgiveness.

I'd also like to know what I "say I am", and the evidence that suggests I am something else.
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Unread postby godzilla on Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:21 pm

SimonJCP 4 Jun 14 2010, 11:10 AM wrote:
godzilla 4 Jun 14 2010, 04:17 AM wrote:I'm just a simpleton. But I'd say SimonJCP is not what he says he is. Just my simpleton observation.


If you want me to be frank with you G, I think that you'd suspect the same about anyone who bumped into Simon on the street and didn't immediately apologize, then kneel down to beg forgiveness.

I'd also like to know what I "say I am", and the evidence that suggests I am something else.


I apologize for being rude. I had a rough day and probably shouldn't have been posting.

Let's just say I don't trust very many in this game. I think you say you are supportive of Simon's and Hoi's work. If you are fully behind Simon's and Hoi's research, as in accepting Simon's work proving that the 9/11 media show was a complete digital presentation, and Hoi's work showing that most if not all of the 9/11 victims were actually Vicsims, then maybe my distrust is wrongly placed.
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." - Henry Kissinger
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:17 pm

godzilla 4 Jun 14 2010, 08:21 PM wrote:
SimonJCP 4 Jun 14 2010, 11:10 AM wrote:
godzilla 4 Jun 14 2010, 04:17 AM wrote:I'm just a simpleton. But I'd say SimonJCP is not what he says he is. Just my simpleton observation.


If you want me to be frank with you G, I think that you'd suspect the same about anyone who bumped into Simon on the street and didn't immediately apologize, then kneel down to beg forgiveness.

I'd also like to know what I "say I am", and the evidence that suggests I am something else.


I apologize for being rude. I had a rough day and probably shouldn't have been posting.

Let's just say I don't trust very many in this game. I think you say you are supportive of Simon's and Hoi's work. If you are fully behind Simon's and Hoi's research, as in accepting Simon's work proving that the 9/11 media show was a complete digital presentation, and Hoi's work showing that most if not all of the 9/11 victims were actually Vicsims, then maybe my distrust is wrongly placed.


It's all good. Sorry if I bit back harder than I should have.

As to the evidence/presentations showing that:
a) The 9/11 media coverage was a complete-and-total stage show. (Simon's work)
b) The 9/11 "victims" and death lists are fabricated wartime propaganda. (Hoi's work)

I am fully supportive of this work/research and feel that it's essential to understanding the MO/nature of modern false-flag operations.
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Unread postby hoi.polloi on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:05 am

Thank you both for the support of Simon's work and my contributions to it. It seems we truly are at the forefront of something new for the human race (if not a very old pattern anyway) so ultimately the people who really support it will reveal themselves as such just by hanging around it and the falser personas will drop away into insignificance ... like other 9/11 researchers already have or are in the process of doing. The real point of 9/11 isn't 9/11. It's propaganda, mass mind manipulation, hypnosis and mass media fakery. And we've figured out it's been going on for some time.

My question is ... how does this discovery apply to JFK and can we hear more about the whole assassination being a simulation to cover up what really happened? (JFK's real death? Something else? His escape? Distraction from the Moon Hoaxes?) I find the idea absolutely fascinating!
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Unread postby SimonJCP on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:39 am

hoi.polloi @ Jun 15 2010, 01:05 AM wrote: Thank you both for the support of Simon's work and my contributions to it. It seems we truly are at the forefront of something new for the human race (if not a very old pattern anyway) so ultimately the people who really support it will reveal themselves as such just by hanging around it and the falser personas will drop away into insignificance ... like other 9/11 researchers already have or are in the process of doing. The real point of 9/11 isn't 9/11. It's propaganda, mass mind manipulation, hypnosis and mass media fakery. And we've figured out it's been going on for some time.

My question is ... how does this discovery apply to JFK and can we hear more about the whole assassination being a simulation to cover up what really happened? (JFK's real death? Something else? His escape? Distraction from the Moon Hoaxes?) I find the idea absolutely fascinating!


As do I -- the evidence I've uncovered thus far has led me to believe that Kennedy was murdered (likely for reasons relating to his desire to end the Vatican's Vietnam War and to stop the Vatican's Federal Reserve Bank) and that the true nature of the crime was disguised through the fabrication of the Zapruder film and autopsy photographs.

However, it would be very interesting to look at things from a different perspective -- what if the entire operation was a massive simulation? Since there would only be one "mock victim", a seemingly endless universe of sub-plots and characters could easily be developed around JFK, Oswald, and Ruby.
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Unread postby hoi.polloi on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:10 am

It's interesting that JFK was allegedly a Catholic and his working "for" the Vatican was actually one of the great fear-mongering ideas of his opposition. "We don't want the Catholic church involved in the presidency, etc."

It would be horribly ironic if the first Catholic president were also the first to say "No" to the Pope's putrid plans for the populace. And strange! ... Or is it? There are many Catholics I know who are opposed to the position of Pope, even though taking that stance is doing so against an enforced tradition.
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