Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby warriorhun on Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:05 pm

Dear All,

Do you think the whole thing can be some prelude and build-up towards a military aggression against the Islamic Republic of Iran in some way?
Just wondering...
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby bostonterrierowner on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:34 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear All,

Do you think the whole thing can be some prelude and build-up towards a military aggression against the Islamic Republic of Iran in some way?
Just wondering...


I personally doubt it . They have been playing this tune for decades now and threatening Iran with retaliation for arming Hezzbollah or Hamas . IMHO they are all part of this giant con known as "world politics" , I mean Obamas , Cammerons , Ahmedinejads of this planet work in concert to fuck the little people one way or another :)
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby bostonterrierowner on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:40 pm

I am really getting fed up with this nonsense and the perps' obsession with number 11 . 11 civilians were supposedly killed by Israeli fire :

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/strefa- ... omosc.html

This conflict looks completely fabricated and existing only on TV screens . Dog and pony show .
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby Dcopymope on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:52 pm

simonshack wrote:*


What a ridiculous clip. :angry:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZfgIsDjiE


dcopymope wrote:Yes, there is certainly something very fishy about this entire conflict, on both sides.


"On both sides" ? Well - that's certainly what the master propagandists want you to believe. I don't buy it, sorry.

Check out this "HONEST REPORTING" joint. They have the unmitigated gall to come up with a 'funny name' for what they try presenting as Palestinian-made fake news imagery..."Pallywood". How very funny - is it not? :rolleyes: :puke:

http://honestreporting.com/live-bloggin ... -11182012/


This is of course assuming there are actual sides to this conflict, that it by and large is not just one giant theater as I believe it is, as simple logic should tell you. The video clip I posted seems to have originally come from the BBC, not from 'honestreporting', you seem to have a problem with it because 'honestreporting' points out fakery on the Palestinian side of the conflict, the 'good' side, the same kind of fakery permeated throughout the 9/11 footage. Their bias doesn't matter at all to me.

Edit: Here is a video for you Simon, to make it all better for you.

Video: Massive explosion as Israel airstrikes Gaza:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQipiEH9MvM
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby icarusinbound on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:30 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear All,

Do you think the whole thing can be some prelude and build-up towards a military aggression against the Islamic Republic of Iran in some way?
Just wondering...


I think that is perhaps too obvious a conclusion.

The BBC commited an astoundingly-false 'mistake', during a live radio interview earlier last week, where the Chief Rabbi was 'entrapped' into saying on-air that he though Iran was behind the attacks. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233860/Chief-Rabbi-Lord-Sacks-blames-Iran-Gaza-conflict-Radio-4.html.

Not sure if any other Brits such as RF heard the broadcast, but it was just transparently-obvious that it was a calculated act- though a layered one. But...it was so obviously pretend, that it couldn't be viewed as being a genuine accident. Which makes it at least a double-bluff.. :wacko:


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Have we seen the dead Palestinian children picture that's currently going viral via Failbook? Very disturbing...http://www.fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=3e75577a19d66c71bed2550433eacede2fc48f37.83240
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby Dcopymope on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:07 am

bostonterrierowner wrote:I am really getting fed up with this nonsense and the perps' obsession with number 11 . 11 civilians were supposedly killed by Israeli fire :

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/strefa- ... omosc.html

This conflict looks completely fabricated and existing only on TV screens . Dog and pony show .


For the most part, I would say that it is fabricated, but the concern is that fabricated small conflicts like this just like any false flag, often results in full scale war, and you will see the cockroaches from Israel demanding Gaza be uprooted in the video below.

Israelis demanding war and those that want peace to go die in Gaza:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-WaXrF6-LI

As others have pointed out, don't be surprised if they try and and get Iran involved in some way, and if they can that whole region will undoubtedly go up in flames.
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby simonshack on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:21 am

bostonterrierowner wrote:I am really getting fed up with this nonsense and the perps' obsession with number 11 . 11 civilians were supposedly killed by Israeli fire :

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/strefa- ... omosc.html

This conflict looks completely fabricated and existing only on TV screens . Dog and pony show .


And yesterday (Sunday Nov 18) it was "9 chidren killed" (according to "La Repubblica")

(Sunday Nov 18, 2012)
Nove bambini uccisi
E' stato il giorno della strage dei bambini. Nove piccoli hanno perso la vita durante un raid israeliano a Gaza.
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2012/11 ... ef=HRER1-1


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Oops - I mean "11 children killed" (according to TGCOM) :rolleyes:
(Sunday Nov 18, 2012)
Ancora raid su Gaza, morti 11 bambini
http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/ar ... tion.shtml


Pathetic. It just never stops.
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby Libero on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:35 am

And it's also curious how even though I check the website of El Al airlines, each of the flights seem to arrive and depart on time, even though missiles are moving to and fro Tel Aviv with nary a warning of delays. 'Iron Dome' must be amazing to inspire such confidence.

West Bank tourist sites don't appear to be too concerned about posting any cancellations either that I can see.
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby warriorhun on Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:41 pm

Dear bostonterrierowner,

you say:
bostonterrierowner wrote:IMHO they are all part of this giant con known as "world politics" , I mean Obamas , Cammerons , Ahmedinejads of this planet work in concert to fuck the little people one way or another


I have long ago arrived to the possible conclusion that main political figures, like the Obamas-Camerons-Ahmedinejads etc... of our world are nothing more than carefully selected actors, wielding no real political powers. They are figureheads, mascots, whatever. Real politics have nothing to do with elections, or these people. What we see in the Media as "politics" is just a TV-show for the Masses, a soap-opera. The public have zero influence over political decisions, and their supposed elected "representatives" are there for anything but representing their electors. Probably...

As per Israel, I am sure that the Palestinian resistence movements are full of Mossad agents, and I would be very much surprised if the whole Palestinian leadership wouldn't consist of Sephardic Jews playing Arabs. That way they could make war whenever is convenient, carry out false-flag terror attacks whenever it is ordered, and emerging legit Palestinian leaders can be snitched and killed before they can cause any mischief. Probably...
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby teriyaki taryaki on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:23 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3d3Fmouh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3d3Fmouh4

Except for the repeated holohoax lies, this recent documentary gives a good overview of the living hell that these Jews have put the Palestinians through for the past 70 years.


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US, Europe complicit in Israeli crimes against Gaza: Ken O'Keefe

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODGjm1OADoU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODGjm1OADoU
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby bostonterrierowner on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:51 pm

Libero wrote:And it's also curious how even though I check the website of El Al airlines, each of the flights seem to arrive and depart on time, even though missiles are moving to and fro Tel Aviv with nary a warning of delays. 'Iron Dome' must be amazing to inspire such confidence.

West Bank tourist sites don't appear to be too concerned about posting any cancellations either that I can see.


Great observation . The usual answer from the media would probably be : " They are used to "Palestinian Terror " in Israel so these poor Jewish folks just keep on with their lives even if it means dodging rockets while landing on Ben Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv :)
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby bostonterrierowner on Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:09 pm

warriorhun wrote:Dear bostonterrierowner,

you say:
bostonterrierowner wrote:IMHO they are all part of this giant con known as "world politics" , I mean Obamas , Cammerons , Ahmedinejads of this planet work in concert to fuck the little people one way or another


I have long ago arrived to the possible conclusion that main political figures, like the Obamas-Camerons-Ahmedinejads etc... of our world are nothing more than carefully selected actors, wielding no real political powers. They are figureheads, mascots, whatever. Real politics have nothing to do with elections, or these people. What we see in the Media as "politics" is just a TV-show for the Masses, a soap-opera. The public have zero influence over political decisions, and their supposed elected "representatives" are there for anything but representing their electors. Probably...

As per Israel, I am sure that the Palestinian resistence movements are full of Mossad agents, and I would be very much surprised if the whole Palestinian leadership wouldn't consist of Sephardic Jews playing Arabs. That way they could make war whenever is convenient, carry out false-flag terror attacks whenever it is ordered, and emerging legit Palestinian leaders can be snitched and killed before they can cause any mischief. Probably...


Right now , I think that there is no genuine Palestinian resistance . It is just impossible for such a thing to operate in the given circumstances . I mean heavily militarized , small , desert area under constant surveillance and in the case of the PA it is practically fenced off , hilly piece of desert . Add countless "intelligence assets" , bribery etc. and you can see a bigger picture .
Unless you believe in 40 km long tunnels used for smuggling of weapons , money , people etc.

I don't believe in an Arabic , Muslim world support for the Palestinian cause too . Muslim world is also controlled through the international institutions like IMF , NATO , UN you name it so it is rather little probable that anything really inconvenient to US-Anglo Empire would ever arrive from these areas .

Why did they decide to play Israel-Palestine movie again this year ?

I really don't know what to think anymore :)
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby Dcopymope on Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:58 pm

bostonterrierowner wrote:
warriorhun wrote:Dear bostonterrierowner,

you say:
bostonterrierowner wrote:IMHO they are all part of this giant con known as "world politics" , I mean Obamas , Cammerons , Ahmedinejads of this planet work in concert to fuck the little people one way or another


I have long ago arrived to the possible conclusion that main political figures, like the Obamas-Camerons-Ahmedinejads etc... of our world are nothing more than carefully selected actors, wielding no real political powers. They are figureheads, mascots, whatever. Real politics have nothing to do with elections, or these people. What we see in the Media as "politics" is just a TV-show for the Masses, a soap-opera. The public have zero influence over political decisions, and their supposed elected "representatives" are there for anything but representing their electors. Probably...

As per Israel, I am sure that the Palestinian resistence movements are full of Mossad agents, and I would be very much surprised if the whole Palestinian leadership wouldn't consist of Sephardic Jews playing Arabs. That way they could make war whenever is convenient, carry out false-flag terror attacks whenever it is ordered, and emerging legit Palestinian leaders can be snitched and killed before they can cause any mischief. Probably...


Right now , I think that there is no genuine Palestinian resistance . It is just impossible for such a thing to operate in the given circumstances . I mean heavily militarized , small , desert area under constant surveillance and in the case of the PA it is practically fenced off , hilly piece of desert . Add countless "intelligence assets" , bribery etc. and you can see a bigger picture .
Unless you believe in 40 km long tunnels used for smuggling of weapons , money , people etc.

I don't believe in an Arabic , Muslim world support for the Palestinian cause too . Muslim world is also controlled through the international institutions like IMF , NATO , UN you name it so it is rather little probable that anything really inconvenient to US-Anglo Empire would ever arrive from these areas .

Why did they decide to play Israel-Palestine movie again this year ?

I really don't know what to think anymore :)


We'll know by next year, but just for the hell of it, I would reckon that it has to do with this being the year that all hell is supposed to break loose. This all seems to have started on November 11th when Israel fired a few warning shots into Syria after mortar strikes. This is also the same day World War 1 ended, so here we go again with the number 11.
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby LightCone on Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:57 am

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This is allegedly damage from Palestinian rockets:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ckkfkviK0

Why is the damage so inconsistent?
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Re: Israel attack on Gaza, November 2012

Postby Dcopymope on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:28 am

LightCone wrote:§

This is allegedly damage from Palestinian rockets:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ckkfkviK0

Why is the damage so inconsistent?


Not sure what you mean by inconsistent damage, it obviously depends on how close the objects are to the explosives that determines how much damage it will do. The shock wave form the blast can do quite a bit of damage as well. Keep in mind that according to videos like the one below, a lot of Palestinian rockets are being intercepted by the Iron Dome anyway, and the rockets being low grade won't help much either.

Rare video: Hamas rockets intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPO_IFrs6WA
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