The PR of Secret Societies

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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby Natural Philosopher on Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:09 pm

Nietzsche (anti-Christian zealot who was supposedly a rabid anti-Semite even though in his works he was actually quite fawning over Judaism and Jewish people) was also photographed in the hidden hand pose:

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The establishment sources (like Wikipedia) tell us this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all. I highly doubt that, we know that it is used in Masonic rituals not to mention the obvious symbolic interpretation of the hidden hand (or agency) behind all world events.
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby kickstones on Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:50 pm

On the subject of the masonic symbolic meaning of colours and the red, black and white combination along with purple for, here we see it in abundance in recent news releases by various media outlets....

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Cardinal George Pell of Australia Sentenced to Six Years in Prison

The 77-year-old cardinal, once an adviser to Pope Francis, was sentenced to six years in prison for child abuse...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/world/australia/george-pell-sentence.html

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We also get the 2 finger V salute (mentioned earlier in the thread)...

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Australian Cardinal Sentenced to Six Years for Sexually Assaulting Children

https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/australian-cardinal-sentenced-to-six-years-for-sexually-assaulting-children.html

The color purple also makes a noticeable appearance...

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It (red, black and white combination) also makes the amazon book list....

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Looks like it's getting a lot of attention, even the scientific Richard Dawkins Foundation see's fit to headline the story ...

Cardinal George Pell of Australia Sentenced to Six Years in Prison

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/cardinal-george-pell-of-australia-sentenced-to-six-years-in-prison/

That this story and accompanied by the prominent masonic colors is getting a lot of publicity suggests there is a masonic agenda behind this, and it is not concerns of the actual act of child abuse, this has been going on for years at high levels of society and has been known by the highest levels of governmental and security agencies without action being taken see ......Thursday, 14 March 2019 CYRIL SMITH COVER UP - SAVILE'S TEAMS
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2019/03/cyril-smith-cover-up-saviles-teams.html

And as another blogger asks....

Why would just a single Cardinal be prosecuted for pedocrime when half of them are involved?

Pedocriminal Pell thrown to dogs. Was his being anti-Jew the reason?
http://tapnewswire.com/2019/03/pedocriminal-pell-thrown-to-dogs-was-his-being-anti-jew-the-reason/

Or could have something to do Richard Dawkins Foundation and the merger with the Center for Inquiry?

Here's CFI's logo....

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Here's their home page image, an Egyptian (Cleopatra?) needle in the background....

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https://cfidc.org/

From the Richard Dawkins Foundation website....

Why is the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science merging with the Center for Inquiry?

Quite simply, CFI and RDFRS have similar objectives and it makes eminent good sense to combine their resources. CFI’s stated mission is to foster a secular society based on reason, science, and humanist values, and RDFRS shares that goal. And CFI shares the stated mission of RDFRS: to remove the influence of religion in science education and public policy and eliminate the stigma that surrounds atheism and non-belief. To put it another way, both organizations seek to make the world a better place for everyone by advocating for science and reason over faith and pseudoscience in all areas of public life, by defending the rights and equality of nonbelievers, and by exemplifying and acting on the values of humanism.
https://www.richarddawkins.net/2016/01/faq-for-cfi-rdfrs-merger/

What other stories RDFRS publisising .....

Rand Paul is wrong: Vaccines are no threat to liberty

Vaccines are one of the most important advances in public health of the last two centuries. Immunization saves millions of lives every year, and horrific illnesses that were simply unavoidable not all that long ago have now been eliminated.

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/rand-paul-is-wrong-vaccines-are-no-threat-to-liberty/


Monthly HIV injection could free patients from gruelling drug regimen

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/monthly-hiv-injection-could-free-patients-from-gruelling-drug-regimen/

Measles Outbreak: 1 Student Got 21 Others Sick

Public officials and health experts had given several warnings: Do not allow a student in school if they had not been vaccinated against measles.

Still, during New York City’s largest measles outbreak in a decade, a school in Brooklyn ignored that advice, resulting in one student infecting at least 21 other people with the virus.


https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/measles-outbreak-1-student-got-21-others-sick/
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby Mansur on Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:00 am

Natural Philosopher » March 11th, 2019, 9:09 pm wrote:Nietzsche (anti-Christian zealot who was supposedly a rabid anti-Semite even though in his works he was actually quite fawning over Judaism and Jewish people) was also photographed in the hidden hand pose:

Statements like this can be based only on quite a second or third hand „information”.

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The establishment sources (like Wikipedia) tell us this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all. I highly doubt that, we know that it is used in Masonic rituals not to mention the obvious symbolic interpretation of the hidden hand (or agency) behind all world events.

When that “wiki-like source” states such things and then publishes a photo from a youngster of an age about sixteen years noting that „this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all”, media-fakery philosophers, such as we are, should be in alert IMHO. That is, if you, dear NPh, buy one part of this wiki-like information, why do you not buy the other part as well? Does not that „nothing strange in that pose”-statement seem strange a bit?

Anyway, it would be better to any one to check the “original sources” or “information” for oneself.

The (hidden) insinuation that Nietzsche was a mason is absolutely ridiculous (and seems to be deliberate). No man in the whole world has despised modern politics (and democracy and public opinion i.e. all the “modern values”) more and deeper than he did.
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby Natural Philosopher on Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:48 pm


The establishment sources (like Wikipedia) tell us this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all. I highly doubt that, we know that it is used in Masonic rituals not to mention the obvious symbolic interpretation of the hidden hand (or agency) behind all world events.
When that “wiki-like source” states such things and then publishes a photo from a youngster of an age about sixteen years noting that „this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all”, media-fakery philosophers, such as we are, should be in alert IMHO. That is, if you, dear NPh, buy one part of this wiki-like information, why do you not buy the other part as well? Does not that „nothing strange in that pose”-statement seem strange a bit?

Anyway, it would be better to any one to check the “original sources” or “information” for oneself.

The (hidden) insinuation that Nietzsche was a mason is absolutely ridiculous (and seems to be deliberate). No man in the whole world has despised modern politics (and democracy and public opinion i.e. all the “modern values”) more and deeper than he did.



You completely misread my post if you think I put any stock in Wikipedian propaganda. Neither did I claim Nietzsche was a
Freemason: I do claim that Nietzsche, allegedly an anti-semitic maniac, is heavily promoted in the academia and in pop-culture, including by Jews like Walter Kaufman. Could it be that his nihilistic, anti-Christian message is or was once useful in some way to the elites? That Nietzsche was photographed making the hidden hand pose is suspicious to me because of the number of elites who have also been photographed making that pose and the association with Freemasonry, but of course that photograph alone doesn't prove that Nietzsche belonged to any secret-societies. Nonetheless, he was definitely a subversive and destructive figure, in my opinion.
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby Mansur on Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:48 pm

It seems then that we are mutually misread each other’s words. Never mind.

But let me ask again: don’t you feel the trick (and the bait) in the remark that „this was just a fashionable pose for some reason and with no meaning at all”? If the pose was fashionable (as it really was; if you think otherwise turn over some old albums) why to remark it, -- after some quite baseless, and really fashionable or obligate and similarly ‘conspiratorial’, statements?

If there were connection really and clearly between the gesture and masonry why do we not see it on today’s pics (and why is it to be seen in nineteenth century photography so frequently)?


…he was definitely a subversive and destructive figure, in my opinion.

Maybe it is not false to say that he was “subversive and destructive” quite intentionally and made no secret of them. Everything depends on interpretation. There are many things ripe for destruction, don’t you think? And certainly not political and social institutions are the first things to “change”, as they are doing it ceaselessly and propagandizing the “necessity” of it in legions of ways. Modernists who are keeping traditions. So who are the destructive and subversive elements among peoples and societies?


Could it be that his nihilistic, anti-Christian message is or was once useful in some way to the elites?

Of course, I think, -- but that what this “nihilistic and anti-Christian message” really implies and who the addressed are, remains a question. But I am getting off topic…
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby ICfreely on Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:03 am

kickstones wrote:
From the Richard Dawkins Foundation website....

Why is the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science merging with the Center for Inquiry?

Quite simply, CFI and RDFRS have similar objectives and it makes eminent good sense to combine their resources. CFI’s stated mission is to foster a secular society based on reason, science, and humanist values, and RDFRS shares that goal. And CFI shares the stated mission of RDFRS: to remove the influence of religion in science education and public policy and eliminate the stigma that surrounds atheism and non-belief. To put it another way, both organizations seek to make the world a better place for everyone by advocating for science and reason over faith and pseudoscience in all areas of public life, by defending the rights and equality of nonbelievers, and by exemplifying and acting on the values of humanism.
https://www.richarddawkins.net/2016/01/ ... rs-merger/

What other stories RDFRS publisising .....

Rand Paul is wrong: Vaccines are no threat to liberty

Vaccines are one of the most important advances in public health of the last two centuries. Immunization saves millions of lives every year, and horrific illnesses that were simply unavoidable not all that long ago have now been eliminated.

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/ ... o-liberty/


Monthly HIV injection could free patients from gruelling drug regimen

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/ ... g-regimen/

Measles Outbreak: 1 Student Got 21 Others Sick

Public officials and health experts had given several warnings: Do not allow a student in school if they had not been vaccinated against measles.

Still, during New York City’s largest measles outbreak in a decade, a school in Brooklyn ignored that advice, resulting in one student infecting at least 21 other people with the virus.

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2019/03/ ... hers-sick/



"...to make the world a better place for everyone by advocating for science and reason over faith and pseudoscience in all areas of public life..."


That's Rich!

Whoever it was that said, "Richard Dawkins' only purpose is to convince people they have no purpose." hit the nail on the head. This shyster is the loudest, most obnoxious advocate for faith in pseudoscience in all areas of public life. Educated idiots like him believe that atheism somehow frees them from all biases. That atheism isn't a religion. That they, as the standard bearers of "objective reason", have figured out what's best for all mankind.


Darwin and the case for 'militant atheism'
November 24, 2009 2:47 p.m. EST

(CNN) -- On November 24, 1859, the first edition of a book that would shake the most deeply established beliefs about life was published in London. What would eventually be known as "The Origin of Species" was the opening shot in a debate that hasn't ended, even 150 years later.

In a series of books starting in 1976 and in his 2002 TED Talk, biologist Richard Dawkins has explored the implications of Darwin's work. In "The Selfish Gene," Dawkins wrote, "Living organisms had existed on earth, without ever knowing why, for over three thousand million years before the truth finally dawned on one of them. His name was Charles Darwin."

Dawkins argues that there is no doubt that Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is true and, unlike some other scholars of the subject, says belief in evolution is not compatible with faith in religion. In fact, he argues, science and religion undermine each other.

"I believe a true understanding of Darwinism is deeply corrosive to religious faith," Dawkins says in his TED Talk.

There's no room for a God in the world as he sees it, and he believes atheists should be forceful in opposing religion. He acknowledges that it's an unpopular case to make, particularly in the United States.

"It's an undeniable fact that to own up to being an atheist is tantamount to introducing yourself as Mr. Hitler or Miss Beelzebub," he said. "And that all stems from the perception of atheists as some kind of weird, way-out minority."


According to Dawkins, life was not created by an intelligent designer. In "The Selfish Gene," he wrote that ["]science["] has established that, "We are survival machines -- robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes." :rolleyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/23/dawkins.darwin.atheism/index.html




1 Timothy 6:20

O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,”

https://biblia.com/bible/1Timothy6.20
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Re: The PR of Secret Societies

Unread postby kickstones on Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:37 am

ICfreely » March 17th, 2019, 3:03 am wrote:
kickstones wrote:
According to Dawkins, life was not created by an intelligent designer. In "The Selfish Gene," he wrote that ["]science["] has established that, "We are survival machines -- robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes." :rolleyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/23/dawkins.darwin.atheism/index.html




1 Timothy 6:20

O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,”


https://biblia.com/bible/1Timothy6.20


Indeed IC, indeed.
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