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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby patrix on Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:20 am

Legionär » December 13th, 2017, 7:41 pm wrote:Hi,

I'm an engineer from Sweden with a master's degree in software engineering, working as a programmer at a consultancy firm. My area of expertise is therefore naturally within IT.

I have been aware of many of these hoaxes for a long time. However, it is only recently that I have gotten more serious about digging deeper into them. I have to thank the Swedish podcast Radio Cui Bono for sparking the interesting. What I want to get out of my membership on this forum is to discuss things that I still find unclear, and by that get a better understanding into the various hoaxes.


A warm welcome Legionär. Let's make a legion of nordic vikings fighting the Nutwork bullshit :) I'm Patrik in the Cui Bono podcast. Glad to have been of assistance.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby lugershot22 on Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:17 pm

Goodbye.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Flabbergasted on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:06 pm

Hi lugershot22,

lugershot22 wrote:reason for username: "lugershot22" is a reminder of the right and need for self-defense.

Assuming it´s a reference to the Pistole Parabellum, I was wondering: is the Luger a weapon typically associated with self-defense?

lugershot22 wrote:I'm 100% convinced about what has been going on, so I don't underestimate the serious nature of it.

What are you referring to?

lugershot22 wrote:I can spot the shills a mile away.

How do you do that?
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Matti on Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:59 pm

My name is Matti Rouse and my preferred user name will be matti, my tax-tag is Charles Matthew Rouse. Both of these names will find me in search engines.

I’m 55 and live in Düsseldorf, Germany. I was born in Stratford upon Avon and lived there for the first 20 years of my life. Stratford is the birth place of Shakespeare and, having friends in the antique business supplying all the historical houses in the town with fake tables and beds and later working as an electrician in the theatre, I learned that it was not about true stories... but it was about stories.

I was adopted. At some point you find out that you yourself are a kind of fake, with two names and two sets of families. My adopted parents never kept this information from me but whilst you know the fact as a young child you don’t really understand it and when you do, it’s a revelation. So I have been peeling the metaphorical onion for as long as I can remember.

Your forum has provided a valuable service when looking at media fakery and I have checked in often over the years. When I first saw September Clues it went straight into a radio play my wife (Mithu Sanyal) was writing because I was her researcher. It was a paradigm shift in the Alternet. A brilliant Agatha Christie twist after 7 years of red herrings.

I don’t hink I will post very often but every now and then I realise that I know something that could be useful. News from Germany, maybe. My wife is a writer and cultural broadcaster and I have been through the music mill - met the devil several times but declined the offer - but my music does find it’s way onto tv cop shows sometimes. Your music is another reason for contact because it resonated and reminded me of similar stuff I’ve done in sessions. I play stringed instruments; guitars, banjos, fiddles, etc, and I sing. Online I am also: Monkeys with Tools, Die Streuner (the jobbing folk band) Filmfahren (The CD Matti Rouse by Filmfahren is available in iTunes, etc) The Long German Breakfast (also in iTunes): And I work with Florian van Volxem and Sven Rossenbach: http://www.sounddesign.com/

More examples here:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCALZQbNr2BDMb9Qr0a2P8pw

My facebook page also has a mix of these things: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCALZQb ... 9Qr0a2P8pw

I have been watching and listing to the alternative scene for a long time but since so many websites have outed themselves by jumping on Trump trains or race dogmatism or some other prooved-to-be-fake diversion there aren't many players left having an open, investigative attitude. So who can you talk to about these things?

Well, fortunately for me, my wife but not many others. Especially the nuclear story. It’s our Noble Lie and is used to drive so much. If you debunk it and everyone agrees then they will have to roll out Judy Wood’s new Tesla weapon or some other super weapon. For managers there has to be a noble lie, a monopoly of power, otherwise how will you manage all these people.

When you see through the game what is your prize? At the moment it's fakology / clues forum and the individuals in and around them. I enjoy listening to and reading your conversations and after a while I find it’s only polite to let you know that I’m here.

Long may it continue,

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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Penelope on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:00 am

The_White_Lodge, you said " by developing a strong sense of what is actually good, what is evil became much more obvious.

For example, I don't think anyone can truly appreciate just how immoral, manipulative and degenerate Hollywood movies are until they've seen a few of the great operas of the 19th century. By contrast, the white magic of Verdi allows one to see the black magic of Disney.

The same logic would apply to the political schema as well. The manipulation of power, and the tactics at work become much more apparent when one has a firm grasp on what proper use of power is."

Thank you. Well said.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Penelope on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:07 am

Hi, I only recently discovered your forum. I know of only one other (not Miles) which sees through so many hoaxes snaked out by the nutworks. I'm American and live in Central Coast California. I want to share aspects of my own knowledge which I don't see in Cluesforum commentary-- or indeed anywhere-- and I want to learn more about economics. If anyone can offer any detail or links regarding a better economic system; so far the best I've seen is Modern Monetary Theory. I would welcome commentary on it and/or other alternatives. Perhaps I've not found some existing economic commentary on the forum.

Areas of expertise: debunking hoaxed events (I recognized and argued against the falsity of the 9/11 narrative from the very first moment I was aware of the event); debunking major political distractions to identify overlooked, far more significant political processes; a minor background in aviation; knowledge of medical misinformation.

I would like to comment briefly on the thread "Impossibility of Space Travel" though I can offer no potential resolution to the question. I would like (later) to open a nontechnical thread on the double-slit experiment; I became interested in Miles' site because my own partial resolution has the same starting assumption. However I, like you, am skeptical of the site-- notably his comments on chemtrails (just a way to illicitly dispose of industrial waste!); nature of time; JFK assassination hoax (slight, goofy motivation offered). I haven't read very much of his stuff yet.

I try to remain immune to the two most common obstacles to attaining truth:
--The error of sticking dogmatically to one's present conclusions, to the exclusion of countervailing evidence.
--The error of allowing emotional experience to freeze our convictions ("I felt sympathy when I saw that victim, so it must be true").

It is especially valuable to me to "speak" to others who question everything and therefore continue to grow in truth-- and therefore in the ablity to combat whom I call "the usurpers".

--Penelope
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Flabbergasted on Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:58 pm

Hi Penelope,
Penelope » January 20th, 2018, 12:07 am wrote:I know of only one other [forum] (not Miles) which sees through so many hoaxes snaked out by the nutworks.

Which is?

Penelope wrote:I recognized and argued against the falsity of the 9/11 narrative from the very first moment I was aware of the event.

Based on what evidence?

Penelope wrote:I, like you, am skeptical of the site [...] I haven't read very much of his stuff yet.

I would suggest reading the pi=4 story in the dedicated thread before you nose-dive into the world of MM. viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1758
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edit: I had forgotten the topic was moved to a separate thread: cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1925
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Penelope on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:38 pm

Flabbergasted,
WillyLoman.wordpress.com also catches most hoaxes, but sometimes identifies them as only false flags. They're not rigorous & their epistemology is all screwed up, with too much reliance on trying to think backward from the narrative offered.

My immediate identification of the 9/11 narrative as false occurred like this: I was at a rest stop just north of Oceanside, CA. A friend came up, tapped on the window, "Do you have your radio on? A highjacked plane hit the World Trade Center and it fell down."
--Don't be silly. You mean a piece fell off.
"No, the whole thing fell down."
--Impossible. Consider the difference in mass.
"Well, it was the burning jet fuel. It melted the girders."
--Not possible. The fuel is all contained in wing tanks, you know. Not enough-- besides, you can't melt steel outside of a forge & not even in an ordinary forge. That's why the Chinese backyard steel project failed. (Person I was talking to was Chinese; thought he might remember the story.) You could make iron horseshoes. That's about it.
"Well, that's what they're saying on the radio!"
--Something of this magnitude and with the media in on it is always an intelligence operation.

I don't know why I added the last comment. My mouth running ahead of my brain I guess.

The subsequent "pancaking of the floors" story I didn't find credible. That cartoon of the plane cutting right through the building was the one that shook me-- it frightened & deeply disappointed me that people could believe such a thing.

Thanks I'll check the pi link. I just glossed MM's article on pi. No time to be interested in that, but I'll check the link anyway as a means to get more insight into MM. I notice most of his hoax-busting, if that's what it is, is safely in the past. He does cover some current hoaxes, but never anything "Big Picture."

I haven't bothered to copy quotes here, since there is no thread & this is just below yours; hope that's ok.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Firestarter on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:28 am

I was born, raised and survive in the Netherlands.

I’ve studied physics at the Universiteit van Amsterdam, and finished with my degree in 1996.
I’ve worked for almost 10 years in ICT, and since then schooled myself in law, as my own attorneys stepped me in the back in several court cases, including a 10-year-running against the Rothschild and Dutch Royal family affiliated ABN AMRO bank.
Because of several publications in the Dutch state media by corrupt attorneys I’m unable to get a job.

Since 2015, I’ve been collecting information on a variety of topics: false flags, genocide, WW II, AIDS, psychiatry, paedophilia, Donald Trump, etc. The result is that I could post about a lot of topics.
I didn’t see a subsection on Cluesforum where I could post about medical issues.

Regularly the things that I write get deleted from forums and blatantly omitted from the internet search results.


Penelope » January 20th, 2018, 4:07 am wrote:I want to share aspects of my own knowledge which I don't see in Cluesforum commentary-- or indeed anywhere-- and I want to learn more about economics. If anyone can offer any detail or links regarding a better economic system; so far the best I've seen is Modern Monetary Theory. I would welcome commentary on it and/or other alternatives. Perhaps I've not found some existing economic commentary on the forum.
I don’t know if something like this is what you’re looking for, but the following book is pretty good; Greg Palast – “The Best democracy money can buy” (2002): http://www.chemtrails911.com/books/The% ... ast%20.pdf

This book is mostly about how the World Bank and IMF sabotage the third world. Greg Palast doesn’t go all the way though, he has worked as an “investigative journalist” for the BBC, and for some reason he never criticises the British Royal family.
In a way his book is the better version of Joseph Stiglitz or “Economic Hit Man” John Perkins (financed by Rockefeller...).
If anybody has got something better, please let me know.

He has written about how George W. Bush stole the 2000 elections, but wasn’t able to expose the truth on 9/11.

What’s also interesting, is that Greg Palast has been reported as a class mate of none other than Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock.
Naturally Palast has taken the 1 October “mass shooting” for what it has been reported in the media…
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby hoi.polloi on Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:35 pm

Firestarter » January 22nd, 2018, 10:28 am wrote:I was born, raised and survive in the Netherlands.

I’ve studied physics at the Universiteit van Amsterdam, and finished with my degree in 1996.
I’ve worked for almost 10 years in ICT, and since then schooled myself in law, as my own attorneys stepped me in the back in several court cases, including a 10-year-running against the Rothschild and Dutch Royal family affiliated ABN AMRO bank.
Because of several publications in the Dutch state media by corrupt attorneys I’m unable to get a job.

Since 2015, I’ve been collecting information on a variety of topics: false flags, genocide, WW II, AIDS, psychiatry, paedophilia, Donald Trump, etc. The result is that I could post about a lot of topics.
I didn’t see a subsection on Cluesforum where I could post about medical issues.

Regularly the things that I write get deleted from forums and blatantly omitted from the internet search results.


Penelope » January 20th, 2018, 4:07 am wrote:I want to share aspects of my own knowledge which I don't see in Cluesforum commentary-- or indeed anywhere-- and I want to learn more about economics. If anyone can offer any detail or links regarding a better economic system; so far the best I've seen is Modern Monetary Theory. I would welcome commentary on it and/or other alternatives. Perhaps I've not found some existing economic commentary on the forum.
I don’t know if something like this is what you’re looking for, but the following book is pretty good; Greg Palast – “The Best democracy money can buy” (2002): http://www.chemtrails911.com/books/The% ... ast%20.pdf

This book is mostly about how the World Bank and IMF sabotage the third world. Greg Palast doesn’t go all the way though, he has worked as an “investigative journalist” for the BBC, and for some reason he never criticises the British Royal family.
In a way his book is the better version of Joseph Stiglitz or “Economic Hit Man” John Perkins (financed by Rockefeller...).
If anybody has got something better, please let me know.

He has written about how George W. Bush stole the 2000 elections, but wasn’t able to expose the truth on 9/11.

What’s also interesting, is that Greg Palast has been reported as a class mate of none other than Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock.
Naturally Palast has taken the 1 October “mass shooting” for what it has been reported in the media…


Firestarter, it seems to me if your baseline for judgement of research has to do with quite mainstream/profitable books like Confessions of an Economic Hitman, then you haven't really started your journey of original research but are only sifting through existing trends and arguments trying to find answers.

This will become a problem if you, for example, find yourself down a "conspiracy theory" that the 9/11 operatives have set up for you.

Have you ever tried writing on something that nobody has reported before you?

Do you understand the concepts of September Clues? Can you share your personal view (one that you haven't merely read somewhere) of what "the truth" of 9/11 is, as you put it?
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Firestarter on Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:24 pm

Firestarter, it seems to me if your baseline for judgement of research has to do with quite mainstream/profitable books like Confessions of an Economic Hitman, then you haven't really started your journey of original research but are only sifting through existing trends and arguments trying to find answers.
If you think that I base my "research" on John Perkins, obviously you haven't read my last post, or don't understand and/or don't even care...
I don't believe that you've read "The best democracy money can buy" and conclude don't have a "clue"...

This will become a problem if you, for example, find yourself down a "conspiracy theory" that the 9/11 operatives have set up for you.

Have you ever tried writing on something that nobody has reported before you?

Do you understand the concepts of September Clues? Can you share your personal view (one that you haven't merely read somewhere) of what "the truth" of 9/11 is, as you put it?
You're kidding right?
The 9/11 story was so ridiculous that only completely brainwashed people didn't see this for the charade it was. I mean: there has never been any high building that imploded by anything else than a controlled demolition.

I often try to find sources that are close to the truth, but conclude that the only way to find the truth is to combine different stories, and put the pieces together.
I once made the mistake to join rationalskepticism.org, and got more than 200 ad hominem attacks in a couple of weeks before being banned.
I think that I've made another mistake: you close your eyes to what is going on, because you're not even interested in looking behind the first line of distraction "news", and ironically because of this, you are always one step behind the without having any "clue" what's going on.

Sleep thight...
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby brianv on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:38 pm

Sleep thight...


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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby hoi.polloi on Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:39 am

Firestarter wrote:I often try to find sources that are close to the truth, but conclude that the only way to find the truth is to combine different stories, and put the pieces together.


You can make a collage of different stories to inflate competing truths. How do you explain the circular idea that truth is something you already know and yet the way to find truth is to support that pre-existing concept?

It sounds like you assume something is true and then piece stories together to make it seem even more true to yourself. That doesn't sound like truth. It sounds like a way of insulating yourself from doubt. Have you tried any "on the ground" research some time?

I once made the mistake to join rationalskepticism.org, and got more than 200 ad hominem attacks in a couple of weeks before being banned.


Sorry that happened to you. Do you think you might have done anything to annoy the members of that forum first?

I think that I've made another mistake: you close your eyes to what is going on, because you're not even interested in looking behind the first line of distraction "news", and ironically because of this, you are always one step behind the without having any "clue" what's going on.


On the contrary, we are all quite interested in the truth. It has become important for everyone interested in the truth to learn the skills of detecting propaganda techniques.

That is why it is disturbing when you demonstrate a strong disinterest in sharing methods of discerning that others may learn from. I understand you feel you have been attacked by some people through your efforts to spread your personal truth.

Perhaps instead of joining forums to claim you've found something that everyone must immediately download to their brains without question, you could try understanding why a forum exists first, and then act in accordance with the goals of the forum to introduce your new ideas in a patient and rational manner.

That might help you. And those you claim you are trying to help. Good luck with the next place.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby HonestlyNow on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:46 pm

Firestarter » January 22nd, 2018, 5:28 am wrote: Greg Palast – “The Best democracy money can buy” (2002)

There's almost always food for thought on the Amazon-dot-com One Star Review page for any book in which one is interested. And this page doesn't disappoint.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Flabbergasted on Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:56 am

Thanks for your answers, Penelope.
Penelope » January 21st, 2018, 8:38 pm wrote:Impossible. Consider the difference in mass ... the fuel is all contained in wing tanks ... you can't melt steel outside of a forge.

I must say, I am impressed. Sitting in your car at a rest stop on the morning of 9/11, without having heard a word of news or seen a single image, you instantly figured out the Twin Towers could not have been destroyed by airplanes?

Just curious: When were you first "shaken" by the cartoon of the plane cutting right through the building? And when did you first reach the conclusion that "something of this magnitude and with the media in on it is always an intelligence operation"?
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