9/11 and SEPTEMBER CLUES

[ozzybinoswald]

This "skeptical" bumpkin is a total shill. Enough of this thin script.

[fred]

It's all to do with perspective again, of course.

Oh but of course!

One supposes that your being a rather transparent shill has nothing to do with your 'perspective' challenges.

Try this experiment at your workplace: stand in front of a mirror and hold up two fingers. Observe the reaction. Now stand up on your desk and hold up two fingers.

After you report back I'll provide you with further instruction as to where to insert your fingers next.

[simonshack]

It's all to do with perspective again, of course.

Of course, Strangeways, of course...


And about the markers, you have this to say:


"They look to me like classic video tape dropout."


Ah - a dropout. Of course. How could I not have seen that before, I ask myself...


And, of course, you are a professional...*something*.

[strangedays]

Why would I have made a TV documentary broadcast for schools on Channel Four and included loads of stuff challenging the official stories of 9/11 and 7/7 if I were a shill? It's one thing to pose as a believer on a forum but to do it on TV and have it end up as class discussion in schools across the country would be going too far, surely. I insisted that the voices of people who were skeptical about the official stories got heard on TV when the commissioning editor would rather have ignored them. The fact that I doubt is not evidence that I'm a shill but just that I am interested in working out what to believe and what not to. Surely we should all doubt until things are proven.

Here's an explanatory video that shows how the "divebomber" really does dip down and then up again in the wide shot. I've added a straight line across the screen to show - it is positioned just below where the dot of the plane is on the first frame.

http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u196 ... bomber.flv

[fred]

Personally, I have been swayed back and forth...

I refuse to take anything

anyone ... me on face

I think this is ... healthy

Strangedays, As long as it's all between consenting adults you are unlikely to be prosecuted for this in the United Kingdom.

[strangedays]

Simon, do you have any comments on the videos I've posted links to?

I'm just showing you what I think is going on so feel free to explain to me what you think I've not understood in my very rough reconstruction.

[fred]

schools ...included loads of stuff...

if I were a shill?

...to pose as a believer on a forum

.. to do it on TV ... in schools... would be going too far, surely.


... I'm a shill ... I am interested in working ...

Here's an explanatory video that ... really does dip down and then up again


in the wide shot.

...a straight

If it involves teachers and students and you plan to broadcast the offending material then you might well face legal sanctions.

[strangedays]

Personally, I have been swayed back and forth...

I refuse to take anything

anyone ... me on face

I think this is ... healthy

Strangedays, As long as it's all between consenting adults you are unlikely to be prosecuted for this in the United Kingdom.

lol.

[simonshack]

http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u196 ... bomber.flv

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Well - thanks for the laugh !

How about picking up a new hobby - such as collecting stamps ?

You have had all of our attention today. That's enough for a long time.

[brianv]

"I agree that it's possible the planes were were drones"

What planes?

[D.Duck]

strangedays,

You are a funny little shill you, and I was just going to say that you are pretty good but I changed my mind and I will go with what " Smoke " has stated, "You guys are getting soft ".

I will give you credit for your shillwork and that you have managed to reinstate some very important shill words cos that's all you guys are left with and they are:

Cameras,Planes,Drones, Smoke, Choppers, Bridge, Coastline and you work hard to make it look like they all were actually real and by doing so you hope to insert doubt in the not so well informed.

Now get one or a couple of things straight:

No real cameras were involved in the 9/11 live footage, it was all done in a computer.

No real planes were shown in the 9/11 live footage, it was all done in a computer and they are CGI (computer generated image).

No real smoke were involved in the 9/11 live footage, it was all done in a computer.

No real choppers were involved in the 9/11 live footage, it was all done in a computer.

The Verrazano bridge is a complete disaster and has been explained 1000 times.

Haha, I really like the coastline cos sometimes its there and sometimes its not, a complete disaster too and explained 1000 times.

At this time if you dont get that go to http://www.septemberclues.org/ and hopefully you will.

The only reason I let you post is because I have an agenda too and that is to inform the not so well informed, how you guys work and let them see for themselves cos the hardest thing for "Newbees" is to sort out the "disinfo" and "misinfo".

One of your first post here you stated that the bad quality of the 9/11 footage was because:

All of the home video you are comparing was definitely recorded on consumer grade tape or very low res digital camera phones

I asked you when digital camera phones were introduced in USA but you did not answer you just moved on to the next false statement " crappy NTSC standard".
Let me inform you: You can not find one picture from any high profile event like "Superbowl, Formula 1 and others" that has the " crappy NTSC standard".
You only find it on the "9/11 live footage". You have to ask yourselves, WHY?

Now let me inform you that digital camera phones were not introduced until 2002 in USA.

Your 'explanation' of the "divebomber" is just one of the funniest thing I have ever seen.

And at last we have the "Chopper 4 " shot were you try to reinstate that a camera was used and this is what I want newbees to think of and learn how you guys try to deceive:

Do you notice how the black lines you call markers remain the same size as the camera zooms in?

Once again, no real camera was used in the first place.


One of the Psyops in the 9/11 script is to have the enemy try to orientate himself in a completely false world (footage) so where ever he turns, his real world is altered to a false one and he will never find a way out.

I will leave you with a little something that I have had good agents try to make real but its FAKE as hell and no real person has used a real camera to take that shot.

Its made in a computer and they f#cked up big time cos the "plane" is standing still and on 9/11 buildings started to hit "planes".

Ladies and Gentlemen: The sim Mike Hezerkani classic.




Best
D.Duck

BTW: Strangedays, You are banned.

[SmokingGunII]

I urge any genuine newbies on here to take a look at Strangeday's hilarious explanation of the conflicting fight paths. If you can't see what is so wrong with it, then perhaps this is not the place for you.

Strangedays - you forgot to mention orbs & holograms. Other than that, you nearly had a full house. :ph43r:

[Alef]

Yes Fred, good question: Who pays these folks? Let us see what our friend Strangeways will offer to ex-plane this:

Perspective illusion? Parallax? Video compression? NTSC issues? Finger distortions?


Strangeways: Don't forget to tell us (after explaining to us confused souls why we see two ENTIRELY different trajectories) why the World Trade Center towers are WHITE in one shot and BLUE in the other. Thanks.

the different trajector ar'nt an optical effect

the plane go down-left in the right scene
so down or left had to be captured by the other camera

[Uranus]

Hey Guys,
(ironic mode on)
dont be so bad to strangled-days, as he spent so much effort

At least I was trying the finger-thing and was really astonished.
I put my full hand up, fingers straight to the air and then
bent thumb, little finger, pointing finger and ringfinger
and guess what I could suddenly see? The face of strangledeyes on my middle finger.

One goal he achieved. we spent a lot of time answering on his bs,
after it was clear from the beginning that he has no video professional knowledge

btw I am a professional movie maker too,
you maybe have seen my film "wag the dog" ?
Another great film of mine was "13th Floor".
My film "Avatar" is now in the cinemas.

Maybe you give me all your email-addresses, so I can send you a copy of the film
I would like to have your opinion on the video and audio of the film, hope you will like it.
(ironic mode off)

cu
welcome to the machine

[simonshack]

I put my full hand up, fingers straight to the air and then
bent thumb, little finger, pointing finger and ringfinger
and guess what I could suddenly see? The face of strangledeyes on my middle finger.

:lol: :lol: :P
You must have wet your pants !