9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

[D.Duck]

Brian,

How would you like your Eggerts?

Well, I am getting used to being served everything you do "The sunny side up" and I am amazed of your cooking skills,lol.

Syracuse university, Beverly, Donna,103, and the rest.

Its all coming together.

Its a small world and a small club.

Fantastic job Brian.


D.Duck

[fred]

IMO the names are selected for psychlogical impact or maybe they are easily mispelt or forget-able.

The 103 Memorial begins with Ahern for instance. Same as the 9/11 non-victims practically.

And the whole list looks very similar, in ways I can't explain! Well apart from the Christophers etc.

I have thought for a while that they're doing something with SOUNDEX or one of its variants and looking for names that riff on a particular syllable. There are a lot of repeated syllables but with different spelling (substitute C for K, for example) and a lot of alphabet clusters (ABC, RST, DEF, etc.)

Take donna marsh o'connor, for example, we have NN NN in the first and last name. DoNNa ocoNNer. Final r in middle and last name. Then with the daughter we have more N sounds and a final R: vaNNessa laNg laNger. Lang Langer is a pretty strange name. Like Ricknauth Ricknauth or CeeCee CiaCia or any of there other made-up names.

There's a lot more syllable doubling and repetition than one would expect, and when you take out the orthographic variations [write out each sound using the same letter to represent the sound] and toss out the vowels, it becomes even worse.

I think that for the names that are intended to be bandied about by the actors and actresses, they've tried to make the names and dates easy to remember to help the actors stay on script. Rather than give them difficult birthdays and biographies to master, they have them just keep repeating the same dates and syllables. "You can remember Sept 11, right? So your wedding anniversary was Sept 11, and your daughter was born on Sept 11, and your husband was killed on flight 11, and your daughter was going to be 11 years old, and your husband wanted to lose 11 pounds with a new diet..." Since they want their media operatives to be able to recite these lies fluently, it helps if they tailor names and stories for mickey-mouse mnemonics.

For names that are poorly backstopped they probably made a deliberate choice to go with something unpronounceable and easily misspelled to discourage any reporters from dialing up and hassling the non-existent family. Would you want to call poor grieving Mrs Aaligh and butcher the family name?

It's interesting to me that the infiltrators for the most part seem to have "easy" names, like Ace Baker, or Jon Gold, or Judy Wood, or Andrew Johnson, or Andrew Watson or Alex Jones. They're so common that it's hard to do any research on them. Not too many Zbigniew Brezezinski's coming and trying to join up.

[C,K,G] all the same sound
Egg, eck, Egger, eggersville... GGG


Fredrick Fred Fredfredder

[brianv]

"Not too many Zbigniew Brezezinski's coming and trying to join up."

Most of their IQ's don't extend that far! Yes, even Joooody Wooooody, who looks like one of those conspiracy loons from the "Far East", that we know and love!! A f#cking caricature of herself! "I know - let's find the most repulsive woman, with zero charisma, on the planet and parade her as an authority, juxtaposed by a Sexy Sibel Sim - "The Whistle-Blower!""

And yes, I agree totally about the Soundex Fred! I think we disussed this previously!

[simonshack]

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USA TODAY article - Dec.20, 2001


http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/200 ... l.htm#more

This article is typical of the generally whimsical and contradictory reporting of 9/11. It is however particularly interesting as it deals (confusingly) with the number of people in the WTC at the time of the attack. Note the many reasons given for there being so few people in the towers...

? The buildings were half-empty when the jets struck. USA TODAY estimates 5,000 to 7,000 people were in each tower when the attack began. Earlier estimates ranged from 10,000 to 25,000 per tower. But company head counts show many desks were empty at 8:46 a.m. There were few tourists; the observation deck wasn't scheduled to open until 9:30 a.m.

(...)

? Not fully occupied

The World Trade Center was only half-full when the first jet struck at 8:46 a.m. That took pressure off the stairwells. Previous estimates of the number of people in each building ranged from 10,000 to 25,000. USA TODAY found that the actual number appears to have been between 5,000 and 7,000 per tower. (that is definitely not even close to "HALF FULL")

Many companies did head counts after the attack to determine how many employees had been in the buildings. Although a complete accounting is not possible, counts from more than 50 floors indicate the buildings were barely half full.(a GROSS overstatement: 5000 people would be only 1/5th capacity)


(...)
Several factors kept desks empty. Some people voted that morning in New York City's mayoral primary. Others took children to the first day of school. Some were on sales calls or business trips. But the biggest factor was the early hour: Many simply hadn't arrived by 8:46 a.m.

Many floors in the two 110-floor buildings were not occupied. Twelve floors in each tower were dedicated to mechanical equipment and a giant lobby. In addition, dozens of Asian investment firms in the World Trade Center had closed their offices or cut employment sharply because of the recession in Asia. Other offices were leased but empty or under renovation. The Atlantic Bank of New York had moved out of the 106th floor of the south tower in July but was still paying rent.

Tourists were sparse at 8:46 a.m., too. The observation deck, on the 107th floor of the south tower, wasn't scheduled to open for another 45 minutes. Outside the buildings, the TKTS booth, which sold half-price tickets to Broadway shows, hadn't opened either. Most stores in the World Trade Center's busy underground shopping center were still shuttered. USA TODAY identified only one tourist who died.

The article also says:
"USA TODAY documented 1,434 who died in the north tower"
and that
"American Airlines Flight 11 struck the 93rd through 98th floors of the north tower"
So, if there were 7000 people in the north tower, we are asked to believe that 25% of all the people in the WTC1 that morning were in the last top floors - and all perished...Nonetheless, the article also states :

" The evacuation was a success." (they call a 25%death-rate "a success"!) :rolleyes:

"The evacuation was a success"... That's quite possibly the only truthful phrase of the whole article: As they collapsed behind an impenetrable smokescreen - the towers were empty.

[Heiwa]

The WTC 1&2 towers had only three stairwells each for escape by foot and their width was 1.2 meters ? enough for two persons to meet.

As each floor could accommodate 200 persons probably 20 000 persons could be in the tower at any time. You really wonder how they were supposed to to escape when there were only three narrow stairwells? (The normal means of transport were evidently the elevators).

Anyway, Ellen Borakove, Director, Public Affairs, Office of Chief Medical Examiner, 520 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, Tel 212 447 2041, Fax 212 447 2755, Web http://www.nyc.gov/ocme has confirmed that the Office of Chief Medical Examiner has in fact investigated 21 744 remains of NY 911 victims and has identified 1 626 persons as dead, so it seems a lot of persons were caught inside the towers.

However, it seems Ms Borakove cannot provide a list of these 1 626 persons and their names and dates/place of birth.

[simonshack]

Anyway, Ellen Borakove, Director, Public Affairs, Office of Chief Medical Examiner, 520 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, Tel 212 447 2041, Fax 212 447 2755, Web http://www.nyc.gov/ocme has confirmed that the Office of Chief Medical Examiner has in fact investigated 21 744 remains of NY 911 victims and has identified 1 626 persons as dead, so it seems a lot of persons were caught inside the towers.

However, it seems Ms Borakove cannot provide a list of these 1 626 persons and their names and dates/place of birth.

They examined "21.744" remains of NY 911 victims?

Perhaps Miss Borakove mixed up her phone/fax numbers with the figure of human body parts examined?

If not, we can do some simple arithmetics:
If 21.744 parts were examined to identify 1 626 persons as dead - this means each victim broke up (in average) into 13,37 separate pieces? I'm no expert in body recovery on disaster sites, yet I would say this sounds bizarre. Did they find mostly toes and fingers? Am I missing something here? :huh:

[brianv]

You know me!

Who is Ellen Borakove? Has she any history? Could you throw up a photograph of her perchance?

Thanks!

[idschmyd]

Slipping back for a moment to Dave Angell. Providence College boasts the 283 seater Angell Blackfriars Theatre, in memory of.

Here’s an image of Kenneth, Dave’s angel bro, doing some honours at the college in 2004.
?the benediction was offered by the Most Rev. Kenneth A. Angell, D.D. (fourth from left), bishop of the Diocese of Burlington, Vermont, and brother of David Angell.

Senior Executive Assistant at Providence: Judith A. Giuliani. Presumably that’s Judi Ann Stish, third wife of Rudi. http://www.providence.edu/governance



Coincidence?

[simonshack]

Now, this is the 9/11...

Memorial Scams thread.

Let us not forget what it's all about.

It seems that the vast majority - if not all - of the 9/11 victims are just computer-generated entities. What does this entail? It entails that 9/11 was a total simulation - the only purpose of which was to level the World Trade Center Complex and blame it on a "foreign enemy".

With the evidence now at hand, I challenge anyone to disprove the findings published on this little discussion board. As far as I can see, no one has been able to challenge either the video evidence (as presented in September Clues) nor the evidence of fake victims (brilliantly renamed 'vicsims' by fellow researcher Hoi Polloi).

The official 9/11 conspiracy story (19 suicidal hijackers with box-knives) is now so definitively laughable as the myth of Santa Claus. This brings up a few questions:

1: How can the mainstream media still promote a Santa Claus story to an adult public?

2: How does this mass psychosis maintain itself instead of fading away ?

3: What means/media/information-channels do we have to shake our fellow citizens out of this mass psychosis?



Maybe we should ask Orson Welles or George Orwell - but they are not, alas, with us anymore! :(

[fbenario]

I don't think there is any way to teach most Americans the truth. We are taught to believe in American Exceptionalism from a very early age - that America is special, and that when our government/military acts, both at home and overseas, it intends to do good, and it accomplishes good. No other people on Earth see their government as a force for good. We are also taught that the images our media shows us are accurate, and worthy of belief.

Most Americans would never believe they were lied to by the government/military/media. It would cause a national breakdown, and probably a breakdown of civil order, if America was forced to conclude that 9/11 was an inside job, and that the one million dead CIVILIANS in Iraq/Afghanistan since 2003 was a war crime of the highest magnitude.

I no longer believe in the vile, murderous ideology (aka, the steaming pile of sh#t) of American Exceptionalism, and will never trust anything the government/military/mainstream media tells me for the rest of my life.

[simonshack]

I don't think there is any way to teach most Americans the truth.

Well - that's pretty sad! :P

It is also incredibly offensive to America as a whole.

[fbenario]

I don't think there is any way to teach most Americans the truth.

Well - that's pretty sad! :P

It is also incredibly offensive to America as a whole.

To me, America as a whole is not only incredibly offensive, but entirely inexcusable, in both its gullibility, and its blood-thirstiness.

Last week my father spoke of Muslim terrorists with such hate in his voice that I was left speechless - and he is such a smart man he completed his Ph.D. at age 21.

[JamedD]

1: How can the mainstream media still promote a Santa Claus story to an adult public?

2: How does this mass psychosis maintain itself instead of fading away ?

3: What means/media/information-channels do we have to shake our fellow citizens out of this mass psychosis?



Maybe we should ask Orson Welles or George Orwell - but they are not, alas, with us anymore! :(

They're resorting more aggressively to ridicule and demonetization. 9/11 truthers are simultaneously both funny kooks and potential anti-government radicals. In America the chief attack dog is pseudo libertarian Glenn Beck of Rupert Murdock's Fox News. Yesterday he interviewed Debra Medina a Ron Paul Republican running for Governor of Texas. In this video he attacks her for any potential heretical views on 9/11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRO6fRibQO0

[idschmyd]

I don't think there is any way to teach most Americans the truth.

Well - that's pretty sad! :P

It is also incredibly offensive to America as a whole.

To me, America as a whole is not only incredibly offensive, but entirely inexcusable, in both its gullibility, and its blood-thirstiness.

Last week my father spoke of Muslim terrorists with such hate in his voice that I was left speechless - and he is such a smart man he completed his Ph.D. at age 21.

Luckily America as a Whole includes both you and your father. Don't forsake the country, there's nowhere to run to, I assure you!

[ozzybinoswald]

Mark E. Schurmeier and Christopher J. Scudder