9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:26 am

Of course, we could also dig into the apparent founders of that site (Gordon and Kathleen Haberman):
http://www.nyccan.org/signatories.php


"ANDREA HABERMAN" :

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Now, Andrea has ONE tribute on the CNN MEMORIAL:



"Andrea, You were too young to die. You were a dedicated business associate and we miss you. We only worked one block away and never took the time to meet each other in person. I wish now I would have taken the time to walk that one block. Life is truly precious. I didn't know you were originally from Wisconsin, so am I. Our beautiful state of Wisconsin will miss you too. I hope you were a Packer fan and you're shining down on them in Heaven. Go Pack Go!!! You are sadly missed! God Bless you and everyone else up there in Heaven that died so tragically in that horrendous act of terrorism. "

Karen Sarli, Merrill Lynch business associate

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... /2991.html





The only problem is that, according to the LEGACY MEMORIAL, Andrea did NOT work in New York.
She only arrived there for a DAY-VISIT on Sept. 10th :





"She grew to love Chicago after taking a job there with Carr Futures, but she had never visited, or wanted to visit, New York. But when her company asked her to go there for a day of meetings, she steeled herself. She arrived late Monday night, Sept. 10. She had a 9 a.m. meeting in the north tower on Tuesday. She was there 20 minutes early."
http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=145248





HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO PROVE THAT ALL THE 9/11 VICTIMS ARE FAKE? DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM, ONE BY ONE? FINE, LET'S DO IT ! ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ?
http://www.septemberclues.info
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Unread postby D.Duck on Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:27 am

Simon,

You got it, CIAran Cassidy is a 7/7 victim and his father is called Sean Cassidy, what a coincidence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 738155.stm

These clowns cant do anything right,lol.

CIA RAN CASS IDY/ CIA RAN CAN A VAN
SE AN CASS IDY/ SE AN CAN A VAN....................... anyone

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Unread postby MartinL on Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:56 am

Good find on the comment Simon. That is not a good sign for NYCCAN.

I'll just add my search here:

This is the daughter of the founders of NYCCAN:

From Legacy memorial:
Ms. Haberman grew up in rural Wisconsin, where her parents own a restaurant. She grew to love Chicago after taking a job there with Carr Futures, but she had never visited, or wanted to visit, New York. But when her company asked her to go there for a day of meetings, she steeled herself. She arrived late Monday night, Sept. 10. She had a 9 a.m. meeting in the north tower on Tuesday. She was there 20 minutes early. (talk about bad luck... )

http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=145248 (one picture)


http://us.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memoria ... /2991.html (one comment, no picture on CNN)

She was emplyed by Carr Futures, a company that has changed name to Calyon Financial.

"On September 11, 2001, Carr Futures (since named Calyon Financial and with Fimat merged to form Newedge) lost 69 colleagues in the New York World Trade Center."
http://www.newedge.com/web/guest/about_ ... ny/history

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memori ... age99.html

Calyon Financial was a subsidiary of Calyon specializing in institutional futures and options brokerage, and was also a member of the Cr?dit Agricole Group.

On January 1, 2008, Calyon Financial merged with Fimat to become Newedge, which is jointly owned in a 50/50 split between the two forming company's parent banks, Calyon and Soci?t? G?n?rale.

Newedge is a joint venture with equal ownership by Cr?dit Agricole CIB and Soci?t? G?n?rale, two of the world’s largest financial group.

Here is an article written by a Peter Maller supposedly from a Milwaukee newspaper. I can not find any articles by this guy after 1995... so someone in the USA should probably check out if he was with the company at that time, and if the article is in their archives. The article ends with a request for donations....

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 5252,25846

No hits for Peter Maller on their webpage:
http://www.jsonline.com/search/?t=site& ... .x=0&s.y=0

In find a grave, she is listed as "buried in the WTC"
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=5845323& (notice its the same picture as the one from Legacy, just cropped)

Also, take a look at this Eric Lander guy who created her memorial on "find a grave"....... ???? WTF?
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... Rid=503045

She is listed in: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi but maybe we should file for a: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-b ... amesiffix= it takes 6-12 months of processing but might be worth it. I can ship dollars if you file it? :)

Her fiancee has no facebook: Allen Kolodzik

So all in all, I cant really tell if this is a real person or not yet, but there are some people and names here that need further investigation:

http://obits.conleynet.com/dailynews/20 ... /28/01.htm

(sorry if this is incoherent, I need to refine my research abilities)
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Unread postby SmokingGunII on Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:15 pm

Guys, I have been taking a look at the UK victim list as this seems easier to research given the official number was 67. I have set up a spreadsheet of all victims and will work on this, when I have the time, in the coming months. However, early in my research a couple of interesting things have turned up.

Alex Clarke, the Mother of Suria Clarke, is quoted in this article on the BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5333498.stm

Despite extensive attempts of tracing Suria through the UK births, marriages, deaths index (BDM), I can't find her. Indeed, only one Suria Clarke appears and she was born in 1995.

I was interested to see that she was chair of the Families support group - "Suria's brother, Tom is Press Officer - you can find the website here:

http://www.s11ukfsg.org/index.html

Some observations on this site:

It hasn't been updated since 4 Sept 2007.
There are no members.

Alex or Tom have posted no tribute to Suria, just a photograph.

Jim Cudmore's CV is vague and a quick search on ACT website draws a blank, which is strange considering he is a fellow founder? There is one possible match to his son, which I haven't pursued yet.

Hannah Ali (sister of Sarah Ali - too many names returned to whittle down from information currently in my possession) is the Editor of the website. Again, she has no tribute posted for her sister - just a photo, which could be anyone.

Another member of the commitee, Michael Carrington, lost his son, Jeremy Mark. Unfortunately, there are no records of someone of this name ever existing. His name only appears on the good old US & canadian obituary lists.

Of the 67 victims, only 12 have "tributes":

http://www.s11ukfsg.org/tributes.html

This is quite incredible when we were told that 750 family members and guests attended the 5th year anniversary and opening of the Memorial garden in Grosvenor Square, London - home to the US Embassy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctims.html


So far I have two EXACT matches to two victims from the birth records - Stephen Philip Morris & Geoffrey Thomas Campbell. I have no doubt that these people existed, so more research will be needed on their backgrounds. Any help greatly appreciated, as I am not blessed with lots of spare time.

There are a few possible matches as well, which could become exact matches, again, further investigation is required.

More interestingly are the number that have yielded zero returns, including the very well publicised Rick Rescorla!

The following Risk Waters employees have no matching birth data:
Michelle Beale ( I was once searched for her address given in a local newspaper and it didn't exist)
Melanie Louise Devere
Sarah Anne Redheffer
Karlie Rogers
Neil James Cudmore's fiance Dinah Webster.

In addition, cursory searches drew a blank for the following people:

Graham Berkeley (UA 175) :P
Gavin Anthony Cushny (Cantor)
Boyd Gatton
Robert Halligan (all matches deceased before 2001)
Mark Ludvigsen (Cantor)
Keith(roy) Maynard
Rhondell Tankard
Ian Clive Thompson
Kathryn Wolf


Keep up the great work.
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Unread postby SmokingGunII on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:30 am

Bit more on Tom Clarke, which you might find interesting -his photo and bio confirm it is the same person:

Tom Clarke is a science correspondent on Channel 4 news, he has worked on the swine flu scam and global warming.

Please scroll down to his bio - he wworked in NY for 3 years, including for ABC affiliate network.

http://www.channel4.com/news/authors/tom+clarke/106310


Interesting excerpt from a speech he made at Lincoln University:

“If there’s an air crash I will be called in to try and find a scientific element. Like for example ‘how did the plane go down’ or ‘how would the pilot land the plane on the water’ etc.

http://thelinc.co.uk/2009/03/reporting- ... om-clarke/


This has me scratching my head - go to this search site and you will find Suria Clarke's espeed email address listed. It also lists a "Suria Rachel Clarke" aged 38 (about right, if she was 30 on 9/11) residing in NY with a whole clan of Clarkes, including a "Tom".

*Suria Rachel Emma Clarke (full name of alleged victim)

Comments?

http://www.123people.com/s/suria+clarke
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Unread postby D.Duck on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:24 pm

Smoke,

You are good you and you are on the right track.

I know its kind of blurry for you right now but that's how the design is.

I have my hands tied behind my back right now cos of the stuff I am working on so I cant give you much right now other then trying to point you in the right direction.

Look at the courts in NYC and check if there are many Clarks and why they are there ( bankrupt, dead, properties, and more) look at Government funds if there is payout to a lot of Clarks.

Don't worry about all the Chowdhury, Khan and Singh you will come to cross I have them all in one basket,lol.

Keep the pressure on.


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Unread postby timothymurphy on Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:30 pm

SmokingGunII 4 Mar 9 2010, 04:15 PM wrote: . I have set up a spreadsheet of all victims and will work on this, when I have the time, in the coming months.

The following Risk Waters employees have no matching birth data:
Michelle Beale ( I was once searched for her address given in a local newspaper and it didn't exist)
Melanie Louise Devere
Sarah Anne Redheffer
Karlie Rogers
Neil James Cudmore's fiance Dinah Webster.




Amazing work. Some of it must have been really tedious to compile.

Can I offer some bits of info for the spreadsheet ?
(even though I'm sure its all fiction made up by journalists and other fakers!)


I had a chance to look at the archive of local papers where Melanie De Vere - a Risk Waters vicsim employee - is from. The News of Portsmouth has alot of info not on the internet.

THe News Sept 19 2001
Melanie had brother Freddie, sister Ruth, father David.
Attended Oaklands School and Highbury College.

A book of condolences was set up for her in Cosham Library
[Hopefully I can go and see if it's still there]

I wrote to Oaklands school to confirm her attendence:
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M Quinn, the headteacher confirmed her attendence.

(Incidentally, it is the same school that was attended by an injured survivor of Mumbai's 26/11 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/havant-and- ... 5866111.jp )

The News 21 Dec 2001 - report by John Millard
Melanie was graduate of Westminster University
Godmother to Madeleine de Vere

The News April 21 2002 - report by Richard Hargreaves
Article contains new quotes from Melanie's mother Margaret Owen.
A memorial Quilt was made by Beth Bolton of Norfolk for Melanie de Vere.

The News June 24 2002
Melanie's mother Margaret Owen get ?1 million compensation.
US Lawyer Kenneth Feinberg travels to UK to give news to 100 UK relatives of UK victims.

The News Sept 10 2002 - report by Cathy Caws
new quotes from Margaret Owen: "I still expect to see or hear something of her..."
sister Ruth De vere is lving in Portsmouth.

The News Sept 11 2002 -
Margaret Owen is living in Anchorage Park, Portsmouth.
It is reported that Elaine Baker, Lord Mayor of Portsmouth knows Margaret Owen very well.


The News Sept 11 2003 report by Helen Usborne
- just cut 'n' paste of previous articles.

The News Sept 11 2006 - report by Jenny Haworth
New quotes from Margaret Owen
Margaret Owen now lives in Brampton Lane, Anchorage Park Portsmouth.
she is jinoistic about war: "Terrorists should be shot...etc"
MO has attended 9/11 memorial at Grosvenor square London.

- All these journalists seem pretty hard to get hold of.
RIchard Hargreaves now works for the Navy magazine.

Margaret Owen must be some kind of local actor unless all the journalists are making her up.

Incidentally, Elaine Baker (the Lord Mayor who knows Owen so well)'s son Jezz has been busted for political corruption, although that's not necessarily to do with her.
( http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Co ... eLength=10 )



I wrote to Sussex university, alma mater of Risk Waters Vicsim Karlie Rogers, to get information.

It took 3 e mails and two letters to get the following :lol: :


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I now enclose a photocopy of an extract from Ms Rogers' original student record which I trust meets your requirements. The quality is very poor though this is the best resolution we could achieve.

... THis concludes the University's response to your Freedom of Information request.

Yours sincerely

James Knapton
Governance Officer


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Nothing can be decoded from the scrap of paper sussex university sent me.
Except that her year abroad was at Universitaet Wien in 199?.

I don't think Sussex University wants to help.

Hope this helps smoking gun!
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Unread postby hoi.polloi on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:09 pm

Interesting responses, tm. Would you be willing to repost this as a "personal research" item in the 9/11 Investigations area? All this FOIA and personal responses can be compiled there so people get the idea we are really contacting these obstinate folks.
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Unread postby timothymurphy on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:17 pm

hoi.polloi 4 Mar 10 2010, 08:09 PM wrote: Interesting responses, tm. Would you be willing to repost this as a "personal research" item in the 9/11 Investigations area? All this FOIA and personal responses can be compiled there so people get the idea we are really contacting these obstinate folks.




sorry - i haven't made my self familiar with the 9/11 investigations area up to this point.
which thread should it go in?
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Unread postby hoi.polloi on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:52 pm

timothymurphy 4 Mar 10 2010, 07:17 PM wrote:
hoi.polloi 4 Mar 10 2010, 08:09 PM wrote: Interesting responses, tm. Would you be willing to repost this as a "personal research" item in the 9/11 Investigations area? All this FOIA and personal responses can be compiled there so people get the idea we are really contacting these obstinate folks.




sorry - i haven't made my self familiar with the 9/11 investigations area up to this point.
which thread should it go in?


Check out this forum: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... howforum=6

Here is where I posted the Vicsim Index, my FOIA request to NARA and other volunteer documents. If you do some volunteer work like you have, getting actual letters in response, you can post it there - preferably disclosing as much as you can to the public about the specifics of your documents and your story of why you made the effort - and thereby offering journalists and writers the opportunity to see where we are at with our public investigation of the 9/11 crime.

There is not presently a similar area for 7/7 because we are primarily focusing on 9/11 on this site, but theoretically you could post similar docs in the 7/7 thread. Hope this helps.

Why did we make this a separate part of the discussion? Because that area is not really intended for discussion; it is to verify the authenticity of the ongoing crimes of denial and lies and to help us show the world how many institutions are implicated in this - how many lackeys there are promoting the lies. Anyone's free time is appreciated and researchers should get the recognition they deserve for producing a paper trail on this research process. So please, if you do get hard letters, make copies, post it and explain how you got the perp to produce the document and thereby show everyone the simple things we are all doing to expose this crime!

The more they deny us, the more we have to make it public.
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Unread postby MartinL on Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:42 pm

Hey guys,

I found this interesting site.

Twins who passed away on September 11th: http://www.twinsworld.com/victims911.shtml

"Father Mychal Judge, 68, NYC Fire Chaplain, Twin brother of Dympna Jessich"

So Dympna Jessich is supposed to be Mychal Judge's twin sister?

Dympnia M Jessich, age 76

Address History
* 1 in Ocean Pines, MD
* 5 in Berlin, MD

Aliases
* Dympnia J Jessich
* Dympna M Jessich
* Dympna Jessich
* Gymtna Jessich
* D M Jessich

http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/previe ... htab=home#

Any German speaking individuals here that feel like making a call?

EDIT: Aren't twins supposed to be born on the same date? :blink:
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Unread postby MartinL on Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:37 pm

This might come in handy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Act

Under Article 23-A, ? 352 (more commonly known as the Martin Act of 1921), the New York Attorney General has the power to subpoena witnesses and company documents pertaining to investigations of fraud or illegal activity by a corporation. Spitzer used this statute to allow his office to prosecute cases which have been described as within federal jurisdiction. In January 2005, the president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce described Spitzer's approach as "the most egregious and unacceptable form of intimidation we've seen in this country in modern times".

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Unread postby simonshack on Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:38 pm

STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *STOP PRESS *


CANTOR FITZGERALD 9/11 MEMORIAL SITE DOWN

PAGE NOT FOUND :
http://www.cantorfamilies.com/

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Howard Lutnick: BUSTED.

That's what I call making progress, folks. They're running like rats - and falling like dominoes. These are excellent news indeed - and a most comforting confirmation that we are, indeed, on the right track. Fortunately, we have that website backed up on several hard drives spread around the world :) .

Something I've often wondered is whether the companies who allegedly lost employess in the WTC were all well-known and established well before 9/11. In the case of Cantor Fitzgerald (which "suffered the largest number of casualties") it seems not :



The bond trading company, Cantor Fitzgerald was almost unknown outside financial circles on wall street until September 11th, 2001. Their offices occupied the 101st thru 105th floors atop 1 World Trade Center. On September 11th, the lives of 658 of their employees were cut short during the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. The name Cantor Fitzgerald has now become synonymous with loss, a tragedy of a scale few in the US have seen outside of a War.

http://everything2.com/title/Cantor+Fitzgerald



If you go to the page linked above, you'll see that they only have about 340 of the alleged 658 dead CF employees listed there. Their now "zapped" memorial site http://www.cantorfamilies.com/ also had about 340 vicsims listed - so they evidently had some MAJOR problem there...
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