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simonshack @ May 27 2010, 03:00 PM wrote:
Well, these kabalistic aspects are going ballistic, are they not? They do tend to get on my nerves so I tend to ignore them.


I think I'm gonna start following your lead on that.
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A particularly sharp comment on my "Fake 7/7 victim" video by Stickyboogarz :


A classmate of mine lost his Dad in those towers and additionally I heard his name read out loud. Not saying that a domestic crime hasn't happened but people died in there and they were real.

Stickyboogarz 11 hours ago

:rolleyes:
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Simon, I'm dipping my toe into the listing / investigation of Charities associated with vicsims and "survivors".
I hope to have a concise summary to post pretty soon.

A very helpful resource is the Charities Commision website (for UK)
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/

You can often get to look at the charity's latest accounts report.

E.g. Miriam Hyman Trust
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Sc ... 31_e_c.pdf


THE OBJECTIVES OF THE TRUST ARE TO RAISE AWARENESS OF CHILDHOOD BLINDNESS IN THE DEVELOPING WORLD...

Apart from shuffling money around, it appears that all they have done is make 3 presentations to their friends.
Hope I'm not being uncharitable!



Achievements and Performance
Presentations have been made to the following organisations:

-The Indian-Jewish Association
-St Gregory's School Oxford
-New North London Synagogue

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Sc ... 31_e_c.pdf
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The 7/7 Charity Files
(incomplete)

The big one was the London Bombings Relief Charitiable Fund


Existing from July 2005 for about a year, it gave out over ?11 million ? (2.5 million donated by the public).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ment.july7


But who did it give the money to?
It is a general theme of 7/7 story-telling that there was a failure to record or keep track of survivors.
(e.g. p.69 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/p ... ombing.pdf )
However, all the survivor funds seem to have found their way into pockets.

One excuse for the lack of data on survivors is that when the "Families Assistance Centre "changed its name to the "7 July Assistance Centre", records of the survivors were deleted for data protection reasons?
a handy device for covering paper trails or lack of paper trails for non-existent people.

p.73 of the above London Assembly report claims that there were 4,000 people directly affected by the bombings (i.e. about 3,950 survivors)? Any of these people could have got a slice of that money ? for PTSD etc.
But most survivors conveniently disappeared.
That must have saved labour on sim-survivor creation!



Charities connected to specific vicsims

Father of Vicsim Phillips Russell claimed there are 28 trusts set up in the names of victims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5341266.stm

But I could only find the following:
(someone with superiour googling skills might find others)

Active
Miriam Hyman Trust
http://www.miriam-hyman.com/

Helen Jones Appeal Fund Scholarship
http://www.scottishaccountancytrust.org ... Jones.html

Phillip Russell scholarship
http://www.kingston.ac.uk/alumni/news-a ... sue-dream/

Fiona Stevenson Memorial Fund
http://www.libertyfoundation.org.uk/pro ... ogram.html

Njoya Foundation
http://www.njoyafoundation.org.uk/about_njoya.htm

Benedetta Ciaccia Memorial Fund
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/news/news-releases/20051004/


Derelict, defunct or untraceable
Life with Loss (pseudo-charity set up by Raj Babra for Benedetta Ciaccia)
http://www.lifewithloss.org/index.html

Lee Baisden memorial trust
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/Documents ... aut(1).pdf

Anthony Fatayi Williams Foundation
http://www.afwfoundation.org/home.html

Mike Matsushita Fund / Indochina children’s fund
http://www.dimsum.co.uk/community/the-k ... ation.html
(weird Mike Matsushita scam: http://www.svbizlaw.com/emails.brownchambers.htm )

GLADYS-WUNDOWA-MEMORIAL-FUND
http://www.ukdata.com/company-credit-re ... MITED.html

Adrian Johnson Memorial Trust
http://www.derby.ac.uk/news/a-tribute-to-adrian



Survivors’ Project:
MAD for Peace
http://www.madforpeace.org
Gill Hicks’ project ? not a charity but a company “Promoting positive change in human behaviour”


Charities using 7/7 cast members ?survivors and family.

Peace Direct and Leonard Cheshire Disability ? Gill Hicks
http://www.peacedirect.org/
http://www.lcdisability.org/?lid=8697

Healing Foundation - Susan Harrison and Louise Barry
http://www.thehealingfoundation.org/louisebarry.htm

Foriveness Project -Julie Nicholson
http://theforgivenessproject.com /

Wish ? Thelma Stober
http://www.womenatwish.org.uk/aboutus/trustees/

Oxfam ? Susan Harrison
http://www.oxfam.org.uk/oxfam_in_action ... orgia.html

Flying Scholarships for the disabled ? Martine Wright
http://www.toreachforthesky.org.uk/

Red Cross ? Danny Biddle
http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=72210

Limb loss information centre ? David Gardner
http://limblossinformationcentre.com/bl ... dale-site/

Disability Snowsport UK - Susan Harrison
http://www.realli-ski.co.uk/press/Reall ... 202007.pdf

MAG - Mines Advisory Group - Lisa French
http://vimeo.com/11047494

Charities claiming to have employed vicsims

African Development Agency - Gladys Wandowa
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/SH ... ryNumber=0
NCH - Anat Rosenberg
http://www.actionforchildren.org.uk/
Girlguiding UK - Anne Moffat (the only sim with no photo anywhere)
http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/home.aspx
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A careful examination of these trust/memorial-type organizations' leaderships is necessary -- since we are dealing with organizations being used to support/maintain fake identities, the leader-figures of these organizations have to be either dupes or perpetrators. And when it's a perpetrator, you can follow the rat to the rat's nest -- investigate the organizations/connections they're connected to.

Let's take the Njoya Foundation for example. It's registered to one Anthony Sealy. I did a search on the listed registrant address and it's a half-hour drive from British Military-Intelligence.
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This post is prompted by the "No Real Photos From the 911 Event, Why no real photo from the 911? " Thread in the Solutions forum:

Camera-blocking technology on 7/7?

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A big piece of plastic ? Is that what prevented authentic amateur photography on 7/7?

The above photo is from the flickr account of "Lmvda" who has many photos of screens placed around the bomb-affected areas.

[NB I don’t know anything about Lmvda so cannot vouch for the authenticity of his pictures]

7/7's Democratisation of the media
There are umpteen articles about how 7/7 democratised the media.
i.e. 7/7 saw a growth in "user-led content" - normal people sending in their photos and videos.

e.g.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5142702.stm , http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ifs/hi/ ... 673233.stm

These claims are surely bogus.
Although supposed amateur photographs are very prominent in 7/7 media legacy, many are anonymous and at least some by a professional photographer - Bettina Strenske.
see this thread of BBC "amateur" photos sent in by the "public":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4660563.stm


One well-known anonymous amateur photo is the Tavistock square bus:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5181396.stm

At the same location, "amateur"Steve Thornhill managed to capture the exact moment of the blast:
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That seems enourmously unlikely to me ? supersonic reactions?


Also very well known are the underground shots by "amateur" Alexander Chadwick from Enfield:

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There are other similar underground shots by Matt Dunn and Adam Stacey, also supposedly done on camera-phones and e mailed to the media.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4660563.stm


Meanwhile, the output from conventional sources looks some kind of fashion shoot.

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Pictures of blonde Helen Quadling by Jane Mingay


This event featuring Paul Dadge and masked woman, Davina Turell, is captured by at least 3 different professional photographers (Jane Mingay, Martin Argles, Gareth Cattermole) :
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I do wonder why amateur photographers have not come forward with their own versions of the Paul Dadge/Masked woman shot. If it was such a striking image wouldn't some passing amateurs have reached for their camera-phones too?
(unless the Paul Dadge drama took place inside a studio somewhere (?))

This so-called “democratisation of the media” is not very convincing.
They just haven’t tried very hard even to create the illusion of it...
The story is that 4,000 people were directly affected by the bombs (i.e. in trains or bus). In a normal sample this size, many would have camera-phones in 2005. But only about 4 or 5 individuals from this sample have put anything in the public domain.

mobile phone tube evacuation film by David Couzens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=Y3266Gd ... tR9Kbvb8Wg
(anonymous?) mobile phone footage of Tavistock square on BBC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuhBdHc8Nqs&feature=fvst



If genuine amateur photography was reaching the media, perhaps we would see more shots like these from iman’s flickr account.
From his flat behind police cordons near King’s Cross on 7 July 2005, nothing is happening.
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(it doesn’t say what time of day this is meant to be)

Plastic screens
Before coming across the photos by Lmvda on flickr, I had not read or seen anything of the plastic screens erected around the bomb areas.
Could they be London’s answer to HERF and EMP?
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Conclusion
In trying to discuss the 7/7 photography in a simple way, I'm afraid my words may be tainted by an appearance of doublethink - as I talk about amateur vs. professional photography etc.
What I really think is that the vast majority of the photography used in mainstream media for 7/7 is professional and faked including the "amateur" shots.
More research is needed...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpVcgt-W ... re=related

I've just watched this series of 7 videos, London 7/7 Bombing Deception.
Although it doesn't touch on any vicsim theories, it explains the whole improbable time lines very well.
And that Verint Systems were most likely the 1,000 employee client, who Peter Power's Visor consultants were hired by.
Also they couldn't understand why Power was laughing & joking when interviewed, despite all the carnage. Maybe it was because he knew there were no casualties.
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timothymurphy 4 Jun 1 2010, 10:48 PM wrote:
Could they be London’s answer to HERF and EMP?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's called "EPM", Tim...

Enormous Plastic Mat



Absolutely splendid, top work on the 7/7charities and photos, Tim!
My warmest congrats.
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antipodean 4 Jun 4 2010, 11:40 AM wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpVcgt-W ... re=related

I've just watched this series of 7 videos, London 7/7 Bombing Deception.
Although it doesn't touch on any vicsim theories, it explains the whole improbable time lines very well.
And that Verint Systems were most likely the 1,000 employee client, who Peter Power's Visor consultants were hired by.
Also they couldn't understand why Power was laughing & joking when interviewed, despite all the carnage. Maybe it was because he knew there were no casualties.
I have strongly held opinions on the Ripple Effect film that you link to.
Put bluntly, I think it’s a mockumentary.


The over-the-top graphics are like those from Chris Morris’ spoof news programme, “Brasseye”

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Judging by its:
-graphics,
-production values, and
- reconstructions with actors on location,
Ripple Effect must have had a massive budget and expertise behind it.

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Reconstruction with actors in London

...And yet they couldn’t get a more credible presenter than Muad Dib ? a guy who thinks he’s Jesus!

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It’s deliberately mental!


The Improbable timelines
IMO the improbable time-lines were deliberately created by the perps in order to provide content for films such as Ripple Effect. - Easily debunked at their convenience.

If the conspiracy theorists' hypothesis depends on the bombers not reaching London in time for the explosions, the rug is easily pulled from under their feet by the timely production of new footage of the bombers in London on time for exploding?.

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BBC Conspiracy Files 7/7 (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcl5YLYvFZA

They could have provided/faked this footage earlier rather than waiting until 2009, but they wanted conspiracy theorists to become invested in the theory of the late train. So, when the late train is debunked ? very publicly on BBC2 - conspiracy theorists are demoralised and discredited.


The anti-semitism effect

The late-train discovery is originally credited to Nick Kollerstrom. - a "holocaust denier" according to the BBC.
With Ripple Effect distributed widely among muslims, and much made of the warnings to Israeli VIPs, the film seems part of a project to taint muslims and conspiracy theorists as anti-semitic.
-Not helped by Muad Dib’s claim that the British are the true chosen people ? British Israelism.

Ripple Effect Production

Other issues with Ripple Effect’s production include the strange Flashing effects it uses.
Without discussing the potential mind-control effects of flickering and flashing in videos, I can say these effects are simply similar to professional TV productions effects on, say, Channel 4.

A question is also raised by the fact that Ripple Effect shares some footage with earlier conspiracy film Ludicrous Diversion.
It might not be a big deal -"Muad Dib" could have downloaded "Ludicrous Diversion" - but it points towards my suspicion that all these conspiracy films are made by the same team of fraudsters ? using them to obscure the truth further.
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The above screenshots are not extracts from TV news or anything, but in each case would appear to be original, “artistic” footage taken by the film-maker.

"Muad Dib" is portrayed as a lone wolf/ maverick living in Ireland, while Ludicrous Diversion is made by anonymous media professionals in London.
I don’t buy either story. They use the same artistic footage because it’s the same people.

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Maybe there is a danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water ? surely Visor consultants, Verint and Peter Power really are dodgy, whoever they are.
http://www.visorconsultants.com/businesscontinuity.htm
But given their prominence in Ripple Effect I’m inclined to see them as a red herring.


Conclusion
People who invested themselves intellectually in Ripple Effect got stung after the BBC conspiracy files programme on 7/7 last year.
Reviving Ripple Effect will just take people around in cirlces until the next BBC conspiracy file.
Perhaps it has some good points in though.
Maybe it could be called the Loose Change of 7/7(?)
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Honest searching for truth is not a taboo subject for mockumentary ? see this one:
Eye on Britain - The Search for Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMtdM-OBoKw

Like Ripple Effect, people don't seem to get that Eye on Britain is a mockumentary.
But in this case we have it from the horse's mouth - A media-networking site where the film-maker, Jason Love, has an account:

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Simon shack:

It's called "EPM", Tim...

Enormous Plastic Mat
:lol: :lol:
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If the conspiracy theorists' hypothesis depends on the bombers not reaching London in time for the explosions, the rug is easily pulled from under their feet by the timely production of new footage of the bombers in London on time for exploding?.

Interestingly nobody seems to be interested in calculating the odds, of the all important train being cancelled.
So this could well be disinformation, worked into the plot. What would be interesting is to know when & why this train was cancelled or so late arriving.

Judging by its:
-graphics,
-production values, and
- reconstructions with actors on location,
Ripple Effect must have had a massive budget and expertise behind it.

I agree, but I think it's still worth a viewing.
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I never realised that 'Bombing Deception' was actually 'Ripple Effect', which didn't get a very favorable review on the UK J7 forum.
Where I've just discovered that ex BBC man Tony Gosling is an admin over there. Posting as Keir.

http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh ... 95&st=1043
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http://www.truthtotell.co.uk/77quotes.htm


Gosling runs the awful UK 9/11 truth site.
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewto ... 086#146086
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antipodean 4 Jun 5 2010, 07:31 AM wrote: ...the UK J7 forum.
Where I've just discovered that ex BBC man Tony Gosling is an admin over there. Posting as Keir.

Gosling runs the awful UK 9/11 truth site.
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewto ... 086#146086
That's good info.
During a trawl through 7/7 forums I noticed that Tony Gosling tries to corral keen 7/7 researchers towards the J7 forum - for thought reform I suppose.

So, "Kier" = Tony Gosling.

Forgive me for going screenshot-crazy, but in the context of this forum, that Tony Gosling comment you linked to was quite funny!

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simonshack 4 Jun 4 2010, 03:23 PM wrote:
timothymurphy 4 Jun 1 2010, 10:48 PM wrote:
Could they be London’s answer to HERF and EMP?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's called "EPM", Tim...

Enormous Plastic Mat



Re: The EPM technology (Enourmous Plastic Mats) in London.

Having double-checked the plastic-mat pictures were actually taken on 12 July 2005. Sorry about misleading. I thought they were taken sometime on 7 July 2005, though obviously not immediately at the time of the bombings!

I guess i presented the plastic mat pictures as a kind of serious joke:
But it is fairly plausible for this kind of low-tech stuff to be effective in 7/7, since so much of the visual spectacle was supposedly underground and hidden.

This is Lmvda's London Bombings photostream with the plastic mat pictures:
http://www-us.flickr.com/photos/ludwig/sets/561263/

So, back to the drawing board to some degree...
Hopefully we'll discover how things really were managed at around 9am on 7 July.

Good news
However, Iman's pictures of empty streets around King's Cross really were taken on 7 July 2005:

http://www-us.flickr.com/search/?q=lond ... ings+cross
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timothymurphy 4 Jun 5 2010, 06:43 PM wrote:

Having double-checked the plastic-mat pictures were actually taken on 12 July 2005. Sorry about misleading. I thought they were taken sometime on 7 July 2005, though obviously not immediately at the time of the bombings!

I guess i presented the plastic mat pictures as a kind of serious joke:
But it is fairly plausible for this kind of low-tech stuff to be effective in 7/7, since so much of the visual spectacle was supposedly underground and hidden.
Well, Tim

The fact that the picture is from 12/7 doesn't necessarily mean the Enormous Plastic Mat was not there on 7/7, does it?

However, let's say it was raised after 7/7.

For what reason? Why block the view to Tavistock square? Wouldn't a police tape/fence/ and a couple of bobbies suffice to keep people away from the "ongoing-crime-investigation-scene'? I don't get it.

Now, another thought I'd like to share with you - I'm sure you have more insights into 7/7 than I so please tell me if this makes sense or not. Why did Peter Power say his company was performing terror drills 'at the exact locations of the attacks'? What would be the motive for the Beeb to broadcast such a story?

This is my thought: Let's say 100 operatives were actively involved in these drills - that really took place. Outside the tube stations, the action was filmed by the perps' cameras (running first responders, medics with stretchers, policemen, special forces, bloody actors and whatnot). THESE were the images aired on TV to illustrate the 'terror attack'...Ready-made London street sceneries with lots of drama.

Was perhaps Peter Power's outing a way of 'explaining' it all - to any Londoner who might have witnessed the drill (personally/in the real world) and many of its unnatural exercice-like dynamics? Of course, the 100 operatives would shut their mouths - lest they lose their well-paid jobs and something else...

Hope you get my drift... :)
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simonshack 4 Jun 7 2010, 10:33 PM wrote:
Was perhaps Peter Power's outing a way of 'explaining' it all - to any Londoner who might have witnessed the drill (personally/in the real world) and many of its unnatural exercice-like dynamics? Of course, the 100 operatives would shut their mouths - lest they lose their well-paid jobs and something else...

Hope you get my drift... :)

I think you're absolutely right.
If anyone saw actors running around London covered in tomato ketchup blood and shoe-polish soot they could explain it away as part of the Peter Power terror drill they heard about on TV.

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Shoe polish soot

Peter Power's role

On MSM, Peter Powers' "outing" provided cover for the unreal aspects of 7/7.
But for the conspiricists the outing makes Peter Power perp No.1.

He appears to be a kind of Pantomine villain for conspiracy theorists:

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Power is weighed and measured on the J7 forum, looked at from every angle:
(not sure if there any angles left over for us...)

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J7 website

And the Visor consultants?? website appears to deliberately provoke the kind of conspiracy theorists who might look for guilty innuendo about mock terror:


Helping you understand the pitfalls of not treating your people correctly whenever any sort of drama occurs. Dealing with personal and group level stress and trauma during and after any dramatic incident to forestall the long term effects of a catastrophe

http://www.visorconsultants.com/businesscontinuity.htm



Is this "gate-keeping??
- Exposing Powers' role in a controlled way that defuses and contains the revelations?


Or is he a decoy?:

By focusing on Peter Powers, we fail to examine the many other parties involved - the actors, the TV studios, the script-writers, the artists, the therapists, the doctors, the hair and make-up people, the caterers...
These are the people who don't want to lose public trust - Peter Power doesn't care about that - a bit of "X-files" mystique only adds prestige in his line of work.



Crises or "Dramatic incidents??
Attacking our vocab for describing fakery


It is challenging to explain that an incident has been faked by using actors.
Here is my exchange with Lucy Fairney, actress Sally Phillips' agent at London's Peter Bennett-Jones Agency:

(I wasn't going to post this as it doesn't go anywhere. But I think it illustrates how hard it is to clearly explain how acting = faking.
Ms. Fairney's ploy was to get me to try to define what I meant, using terms whose meanings are shifting beneath our feet.)



From: tim murphy)
Sent: May 12, 2010 9:44:04 PM
To: [email protected]

Dear Miss Fairney,
Sally Phillips has been identified as an actor in the news footage of the 2005 London bombings.
There has been some discussion of this on internet forums.
Has Sally Phillips made a statement about these allegations?
Please let me know if she has a comment.
Thanks
Tim


From: Lucy Fairney ([email protected])
Sent: May 13, 2010 8:42:00 AM
To: tim murphy

Hi Tim,

Could you clarify what you mean by "actor in news footage"?

Lucy Fairney

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From: tim murphy
Sent: May 13, 2010 10:44:44 AM
To: [email protected]

Ok:

As a professional actor, Phillips is an "actor" wherever she goes.
Had she been innocently caught on camera on 7/7 she might be "an actor in the news footage", the same way as someone else might be "a plumber in the news footage".
THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEAN.


Some scenes broadcast on 7 July 2005 were dishonestly passed off as news footage.
Actors were used to create these dramatic scenes.
Sally Phillips features very prominently.
Originally broadcast on Channel 4 and SKY news, her scenes have been re-broadcast and re-packaged many times.


No reply.


How has my vocab for describing fakery been attacked?

"the Government staged 7/7?
(Rachel North on BBC conspiracy files, same phrase also used by other writer in Daily Mail article linked below)

For 7/7, all terminology to do with acting and theatre is creeping into the discussion from all angles - most literally with the mock terror drills and actors connected to Peter Power.
But in all other forms - drama, acting, stages, plays - It is being thrown into discussion of 7/7.

By repeatedly using words such as "staged" and "acted? - "they acted in the name of Islam? (T Blair) - in place of alternatives such as "the government were responsible for 7/7? or "they killed in the name of Islam? - the drama-related words are becoming standard.

This is deliberate to rob words connected with drama of their distinction from words describing real actions .
It thus becomes impossible to describe the fact that someone "acted" or "staged" something in terms of faking it.

Peter Powers' business - terror drills blurring with real terror - is the crucible for robbing acting words of their distinctiveness.


Looking at the conspiracy material about Power, I find it hard to remember that they believe real people died. It seems so natural for mock terror and actors to imply vicsims.
But - for now - they are asking us to believe in a fake terror event but with real victims?K. Is that doublethink?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... quiry.html

Conclusion
It is difficult to express what happened on 7/7 to an unwilling listener.
I feel that the public outing of Peter Powers and the mock terror could be partly an attack on our vocabulary for fakery, to protect such unwilling listeners.

..........................
Hope this post isn't trying to be too clever - I just think we have to be a bit cleverer than J7 or Ripple Effect :blink:



Appendix

Confusion ensuing when I complained to Channel 4 about Sally Phillips acting in the 7/7 news footage:

May 21 2010


Dear Mr Murphy,

Thank you for contacting Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries regarding CHANNEL 4
NEWS.

We are sorry to hear that you feel actresses should not be used in this
reconstruction.


Please be assured your complaint has been logged and noted for the
information of those responsible for our programming.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact us. We appreciate all
feedback from our viewers; complimentary or otherwise.

Regards,

Ryan Thomas
Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries

After I asked for clarification they changed their minds and said it wasn't a "reconstruction"...
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timothymurphy @ Jun 9 2010, 02:03 AM wrote: After I asked for clarification they changed their minds and said it wasn't a "reconstruction"...
:o ....Uh....What did they say precisely?
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