The most common objection people have to our research: "Too many people would have been involved to pull off such a massive hoax." Well, with trillions of taxpayers' dollars at hand, this operation could certainly afford contracting many individuals (under a gag order and on a need-to-know basis). Meet the real - and unreal - persons, companies & entities assigned to carry out this gigantic, media & military-assisted psyop.
"You are telling me you are gonna fake some terrorist thing just so you can get some money out of Congress?"
"Feinstein's buddy":
"Unfortunately Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4000 people, so we just gonna have to do it for real - blame it on the Muslims of course"
I guess they had not yet come up with the Vicsim term.... oh, wait.... must be more disinformation and predictive programming to "blame the CIA" then? Thoughts? :o
A former girlfriend sued Black, alleging that he “crawled into [her] bed, removed a vial of cocaine from his pocket, sniffed some cocaine from the vial, and proceeded to masturbate in Plaintiff’s hospital bed.”
McKee became part of a great boom in screenwriting instruction which had its roots in the end of the studio system and the subsequent rise of the American auteur director: a screenwriter being one step from a director, and a director being God. The boom was further propelled by public knowledge of the multimillion-dollar fees paid to writers like Joe Eszterhas and Shane Black.
I do very well remember this passage on the old forum 911movement. We lost a lot of interesting "Hollywood" research when the forum was turned down. We should try to rebuild that.
At that time, the vicsim concept (and even the concept of faking WTC victims to my knowledge) wasn't evidenced ... and we didn't pick up " I have no idea how to fake killing 4000 people" !
Yeah this is one of the most f#cked up movie clues about 9/11. Completely blatant, I bet 4,000 was the death toll that they ideally wanted too. These guys really need to be called out on this. It's obviously not a coincidence, they're very accurate in the movie about describing what really happened in the '93 attack.
I have just come across an small clip of the second plane hit, featured in the film oldboy. It is small and bad quality but it can be clearly seen that the aircraft is behaving abnormal.
I wonder if any of you recognise the tape and can see if there is the same choppyflawed frames in its original release. is there any reason it should not be?
Also if you have a look at the collapse clip played directly after, it is not hard to see the standard "spectacular event zooming" found in most action films and tv pop series everywhere theses days. (just head over to discoverychanned for some mind bending zoom-o-rama)
"Oldboy" is an absolutely AWESOME story... and the 9/11 clip is unimportant as anything but "a global media event" (which formed people's sense of reality) in the context of this movie. The other clips in the series help forming the narrative of the construct (i.e. to most of the world 9/11 isn't all that important).
I took some time to look for other instances of the event used in films but Idid not seem to find any. Only relevant hits are pre 911 movies giving the messages of september 11th and the crashing of x into the trades complex. You all have heard of those i am sure.
So is there a conclusion that this is the only movie that uses sept.11th footage as a part of their script?
Anyone has the heart to dig up the name of the original recording ?
25 years later, how ‘Top Gun’ made America love war
As Mace Neufeld, the producer of the 1990 film “The Hunt for Red October,” later recounted to Variety, studios in the post-“Top Gun” era instituted an unstated rule telling screenwriters and directors to get military cooperation “or forget about making the picture.”
Went to the movies today and came across this interesting article in the free movie magazine (you know, the one that bombards you with crappy ads and kiss-ass interviews.)
"From frantic last-minute changes, to tentative references,
to direct retellings, to background plot points. On the
10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks we track
the evolution of cinema’s take on the day that changed
everything. By Marni Weisz
Collateral Damage - September 12, 2001 The day after the September 11th attacks, Warner Bros. delays the release of this thriller starring Arnold Schwarzenegger as a man whose wife and son are killed in a terrorist bombing. The film, which was supposed to hit theatres October 5th, 2001, eventually comes out February 8th, 2002.
Spider-Man - September 13, 2001 Two days after the attacks, Sony recalls this poster in which the World Trade Center’s twin towers are seen reflected in Spider-Man’s eyes, and pulls a trailer in which Spidey catches bank robbers in a giant web he spins between the twin towers. Sony insists the sequence was shot specifically for the trailer and was never intended to be in the film.
Eleven Minutes, Nine Seconds , One Image: September 11 - September 5, 2002 This indie release that incorporates short films from 11 different directors — each one 11 minutes, nine seconds and one frame long — premieres at the Venice Film Festival. Directors including Ken Loach, Sean Penn and Mira Nair try to make sense of 9/11 with fictional stories that range from obliquely to directly related to the attacks.
They love those numbers
25th Hour - December 16, 2002 The Spike Lee drama starring Edward Norton as Monty, a New York drug dealer preparing for a seven-year prison term, opens in New York City and is one of the first movies to refer to the tragedy. Although not a part of the main plot, the story takes place in post-9/11 New York and the attacks loom in the background. Monty’s friend Frank (Barry Pepper) lives in a beautiful apartment that overlooks Ground Zero, but won’t move because the price is right. Meanwhile, Monty’s dad (Brian Cox) owns a bar frequented by fire fighters who survived that day.
Fahrenheit 9/11 - June 25, 2004 One year after Michael Moore is booed for criticizing George Bush and the Iraq War during his acceptance speech for Best Documentary Feature (Bowling for Columbine) at the Academy Awards, he releases this doc about the political lead-up to, and aftermath of, 9/11. The well-received film etches many images into the collective psyche, but one of the most striking is that of a bewildered George Bush receiving news of the attacks while visiting a grade two class in Sarasota, Florida.
United 93 - April 28, 2006 The first — and arguably best — film depicting the events of September 11th comes from British director Paul Greengrass and concentrates not on the New York attacks, but the hijacking of United Flight 93, the Boeing 757-222 that went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, after terrorists forced their way into the cockpit. The film interweaves the passengers’ attempts to regain control of the plane, their frantic calls home to loved ones, and air traffic control’s reaction to the previously unthinkable.
The film that most heavy-handedly throws the victim and plane myths down our throats must be THE BEST! Right?
World Trade Center - August 9, 2006 Director Oliver Stone’s stab at capturing a slice of 9/11 hits theatres. His uncharacteristically apolitical drama tells the true story of New York Port Authority police officers John McLoughlin (Nicolas Cage) and Will Jimeno (Michael Peña), who were trapped in the rubble for 10 harrowing hours after the twin towers came down.
Reign Over Me - March23, 2007 The first mainstream feature to deal directly with the long-lasting emotional aftermath of 9/11 hits theatres. Adam Sandler plays a fictional New York dentist who loses his wife and three daughters in the attacks, and then develops a form of amnesia, blocking out all memories of them, and becoming a recluse.
If only all the "victim family members" had amnesia...be a lot easier for the perps lol
Avatar - December 16, 2009 Director James Cameron mimics the iconic image of the crumbling World Trade Center towers in Avatar’s climactic fall of the Tree of Souls. As the tree tumbles down, Na’vi run for their lives, some jumping from its branches, while a shower of ash and embers fall around them. Although most critics refer to the obvious allusion, Cameron says only that he was “surprised at how much it did look like September 11,” adding, “I didn’t think that was necessarily a bad thing.”
A real life movie with CGI sequences...Sounds familiar...Not bad, Jim, not bad.
Remember Me - March 1, 2010 The events of September 11th are a mere plot point in this romantic melodrama. Two tortured souls with family issues, Tyler (Robert Pattinson) and Ally (Emilie de Raven), fall in love in New York circa 2001. In one of the film’s final scenes (SPOILER ALERT) Tyler sits, waiting, in his father’s office in the World Trade Center as the planes hit."
Last words of article, "PLANES HIT". No-so-subtle Neuro-Lingustic-Programming going on here.
Another new propaganda movie involving Tom Hanks. Let's have a look at the description:
A nine-year-old amateur inventor, jewelry designer, astrophysicist, tambourine player and pacifist, searches New York for the lock that matches a mysterious key left by his father when he was killed in the September 11 attacks.
Tom Hanks is an interesting character in this media fakery game.
Other credits from Tom Hanks full of propaganda and/or "explaining" our reality and its events:
Forrest Gump (1994) - Acclaimed movie telling us what happened from the 60's to 90's.
Apollo 13 (1995) - Acclaimed movie about space exploration/the moon
Saving Private Ryan (1998) - Acclaimed movie propagandizing WWII
From Earth to the Moon (1998) - Space documentary
Band of Brothers (2001) - Acclaimed tv series propagandizing WWII
Freedom: A History of Us (2003) - TV series propagandizing the "official" "history of the United States
Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D (2005) - Yes another space documentary
Da Vinci Code (2006) - Religious propaganda
Angels and Demons (2007) - Religious propaganda
Charlie Wilson's War (2009) - Afghanistan/"War on Terror" propaganda and limited hangout
The Pacific (2010) - Acclaimed tv series propagandizing WWII
But he seems like such a good guy...
Not just another Hollywood paid whore. Lump this magoo-ish chump in with Buscemi, Crystal, and De Niro as active participants in this fakery "game". Seems to have a specific hard-on for the moon bs.
upstream wrote:...
Tom Hanks is an interesting character in this media fakery game.
Other credits from Tom Hanks full of propaganda and/or "explaining" our reality and its events:
Forrest Gump (1994) - Acclaimed movie telling us what happened from the 60's to 90's.
Apollo 13 (1995) - Acclaimed movie about space exploration/the moon
Saving Private Ryan (1998) - Acclaimed movie propagandizing WWII
From Earth to the Moon (1998) - Space documentary
Band of Brothers (2001) - Acclaimed tv series propagandizing WWII
Freedom: A History of Us (2003) - TV series propagandizing the "official" "history of the United States
Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D (2005) - Yes another space documentary
Da Vinci Code (2006) - Religious propaganda
Angels and Demons (2007) - Religious propaganda
Charlie Wilson's War (2009) - Afghanistan/"War on Terror" propaganda and limited hangout
The Pacific (2010) - Acclaimed tv series propagandizing WWII
But he seems like such a good guy...
Not just another Hollywood paid whore. Lump this magoo-ish chump in with Buscemi, Crystal, and De Niro as active participants in this fakery "game". Seems to have a specific hard-on for the moon bs.
Yep. Well, he is Disney's Woody, after all!
Interesting Curriculum Vitae, eh. Remember Toy Story? Gotta start with the kids, ya know, get 'em hooked on talking toys as heroes, all so innocent-like
Speaking of Woodies, I'd add Disney's other 'Pinocchio', James (Wanker) Woods to that list of 9-11 propaganda actor asses, erm, assets. As a Bush-Giuliani-Iraq War-lover, he lobbied for the starring role in "Rudy: The Rudy Giuliani Story" (2003) — does voices for video game & cartoon characters too, e.g. Final Fantasy, Family Guy and most aptly as Hades in Disney's Hercules (1997):
James Woods as Hades. Producer Alice Dewey mentioned that Hades "was supposed to talk in a slow and be menacing in a quiet, spooky way", but thought that James Woods' manner of speaking "a mile a minute" would be a "great take" for a villain.[3] Woods did a lot of ad-libbing in his recordings, especially in Hades' dialogues with Megara.[3]
So, with perfect type-casting, his major role "credit" was as the bastard in 'Tell-lie-Vision 9-11 Interview' tele-movie short, 'released' days after 9-11 giving 'life' to 'hijacker' sims and 'planes':
In 2001, before the September 11 attacks, while on a commercial flight from Boston to Los Angeles in August, Woods claims to have noticed two men, who were later believed to be two of the 9/11 hijackers,[20] and informed a flight attendant that he felt they were acting very suspiciously. He stated they never ate, drank, slept, or read during the flight, only whispered to each other in low tones. He filed an official report with the FAA about the incident.[21] Woods has been interviewed several times by FBI agents regarding this incident.[22]
But he actually claimed to have seen 4!
See two real scumbags in action in this Fux News 9-11 TV Movie Scene with Bull O'Really:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0lzZvCNkJw
Get what "mile-a-minute" Woods manages to squeeze into the last minute too
upstream wrote:9/11 A Decade in Movies World Trade Center - August 9, 2006 Director Oliver Stone’s stab at capturing a slice of 9/11 hits theatres. His uncharacteristically apolitical drama tells the true story of New York Port Authority police officers John McLoughlin (Nicolas Cage) and Will Jimeno (Michael Peña), who were trapped in the rubble for 10 harrowing hours after the twin towers came down.
Are Nicolas Cage and John Travolta Undead?
There were those who laughed off a recent eBay listing claiming to offer a Civil War-era photograph of Nicolas Cage (he went by Jack Mord back then, but that was probably just an anagram) for the cool asking price of $1 million.
"Personally," the seller wrote, "I believe it's him and that he is some sort of walking undead/vampire, etcetera, who quickens/reinvents himself once every 75 years or so."
Yeah Reel, just goes to prove there will always be scammers (and shoopers) on eBay trying to get some idiot to part with their money
My son has used that 'bird hair' shoop of Cage before too.
upstream wrote:Avatar - December 16, 2009 Director James Cameron mimics the iconic image of the crumbling World Trade Center towers in Avatar’s climactic fall of the Tree of Souls [sic]
Upstream, I meant to mention this before, but that article got the "Tree of Souls" confused with "Home Tree", which is what was destroyed '9/11-style' in the movie (they actually saved the "Tree of Souls" from being bombed by the corporate invaders). Made me wonder if it was a deliberate 'error' to maximize their "souls lost on 9-11" theme.