Arizona Mass Shooting PSYOP

[gwynned]

I am so glad I was directed to this forum from someone at ATS. I've been saying for weeks now that this event never happened and everyone thinks I'm crazy. I've been particularly impressed at the photo analyses, which completely slipped by me, other than the crazy mug shot. He really DOES look like Glenn Beck.

As some have pointed out, however, it's odd that so much of this is photoshopped. FI, the Safeway parking lot. Seems they could have easily staged it without the need for photoshopping trees or people into it. Why the obvious mistakes?

Why make Laughner look so comical? Why the strange Youtube videos? Why have Giffords subscribe to Loughner's Youtube channel? Why the guy with the pink wig talking about Loughner? Why the incredible (and I suggest completely unbelievable) recovery of Giffords? Why name the rambling and incompetent Sheriff 'Dupnick'? My point is that there is a humorous trend throughout this hoax which is not characteristic of the PTB. Could it be that this hoax was NOT created by the PTB but by someone or someones else for a very different purpose - that purpose being to demonstrate in real time how people will believe anything if put in front of them by some 'authority.' were these comical inconsistencies deliberately left for us as clues to follow, rather than being, as someone suggested, the result of sloppiness?

[repentantandy]

Well... yes!

The PTB sometimes seem to act in Bilderberg/BohoGrove/Skull-and-Bones/CIA/Mossad/Jesuits/etc. marching-orders unison (or at least they do agree on the "official" cover story for otherwise mysterious, in-the-news events.) But at other, more Fortean times their various power-factions seem instead intent upon pursuing independent, competitive, contradictory and even whimsical paths of jimmying the locks-and-hinges of our "doors of perception".

One example that comes to mind is the (very Bill Cooper-like) Rush Limbaugh rant about his seeing "top-secret documents" that describe how the ancient civilization on Mars destroyed itself by not following the environment-conservation warnings of the "Martian Al Gores" of their time -- meaning that life on Mars, millions of years ago, was destroyed by GLOBAL WARMING. And Limbaugh says it was caused by the selfish-elitist behavior of an ancient Martian version of Skull-and-Bones, whose DNA has been traced (like that of the "vaporized hijackers," I suppose) by NASA to the very bloodlines of the secret societies who control our world today.

HUH???



Of course, ol' Rush-Mouth was reading from a script.

But who wrote it?

And why?

[gwynned]

Well... yes!

The PTB sometimes seem to act in Bilderberg/BohoGrove/Skull-and-Bones/CIA/Mossad/Jesuits/etc. marching-orders unison (or at least they do agree on the "official" cover story for otherwise mysterious, in-the-news events.) But at other, more Fortean times their various power-factions seem instead intent upon pursuing independent, competitive, contradictory and even whimsical paths of jimmying the locks-and-hinges of our "doors of perception".

One example that comes to mind is the (very Bill Cooper-like) Rush Limbaugh rant about his seeing "top-secret documents" that describe how the ancient civilization on Mars destroyed itself by not following the environment-conservation warnings of the "Martian Al Gores" of their time -- meaning that life on Mars, millions of years ago, was destroyed by GLOBAL WARMING. And Limbaugh says it was caused by the selfish-elitist behavior of an ancient Martian version of Skull-and-Bones, whose DNA has been traced (like that of the "vaporized hijackers," I suppose) by NASA to the very bloodlines of the secret societies who control our world today.

HUH???



Of course, ol' Rush-Mouth was reading from a script.

But who wrote it?

And why?

Very interesting. WHEN did he say this? Was it recently? The reason I ask is that ever since November 5, 2010, (remember, remember!), there have been some odd exposures of these secrets and some strange stories from some unlikely sources.

Here's just a partial list:

George Bush is interviewed in a Church by Matt Lauer (with a pyramid in the stained glass!) and 'confesses.' I can post the link if you like.

Missile launched off the coast of California. Government is 'stumped.'

Geraldo talks openly about 9-11 - Bldg 7 I believe.

Simpsons do a show on 9-11 and skewer Dick Cheney.

On the show Cleveland Brown or something, they actually said in the closing minutes '9-11 was an inside job.'

It is my suspicion that there have been changes in ownership in at least some of the media outlets and/or there are some renegades who are acting in concert, trying to expose the truth. As far as Rush is concerned, perhaps the new owners have different script writers.

As much of these things happened on FOX, I want to point out that the same guy that tried to build the mosque near Ground Zero bought 7 percent of FOX last June. In the announcement, it was mentioned that he had some rights over content or something like that. My connection is very slow at the moment so I can't search for the press release.

[repentantandy]

I don't know the original date of the broadcast, but a clip of the rant, plus a verbatim transcript, have been bouncing around the web for at least a few years -- often being posted in high-visibility locations like YouTube, and sometimes being suspiciously yanked as soon as links start to spread. Thus the myth is built among the "dittoheads" that their beloved, Oxycontin-propelled prophet was "warned-and-silenced," when he dared to venture "Shockingly Close to the Truth". There are other Rush-room veterans, however, who instead maintain that the obese oracle was only engaging in some brilliantly Swiftian social satire.

Nevertheless, the meme of the ancient aliens continues to be spread far and wide across the landscape of public conscious (and unconscious)-ness, following the parable of the sower. And although many of us hardened skeptics represent only rocky ground for the seeds constantly being cast about by the ever-busy messengers of deception, other trusting/questing souls who also hunger for the "hidden truths" wind up being fertile soil indeed. I hope you, dear newcomer, are not one of that crowd.

While Fox's psy-op master Chris Carter may well have been correct about the truth being "out there," I am unflinchingly confident that it's NEVER going to leech out from between the duplicitous lips of the bejeweled-blowdried-and-botoxed talking heads of the MSM. That's because the corporate/government propaganda apparatus is so well-designed and obsessively maintained to deal only in half-truths mingled with outright lies. But we can, of course, sift through the dissembling detrius and sometimes seize upon valuable, even prescient CLUES as to what it really is they want us to believe and disbelieve -- and that's what Simon and Hoi's magnificent forum seems to have succeeded at, way out here on the uber-fringes of the Internet, where it's rare, so far, for more than a dozen pairs of eyes to be reading these threads at any given time.

[fbenario]

[quote="gwynned"][/quote]
Gwynedd is the county in Wales in its north-west corner, closest to Ireland. Are you from there? I've spent quite a bit of time in N.Wales, even once spending 4 whole days on Anglesey. Can't imagine too many Americans have ever bothered spending 4 days there.

[gwynned]

Gwynedd is the county in Wales in its north-west corner, closest to Ireland. Are you from there? I've spent quite a bit of time in N.Wales, even once spending 4 whole days on Anglesey. Can't imagine too many Americans have ever bothered spending 4 days there.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I live in California. However, 8 years ago I spent a memorable week near Anglesey in Snowden. Even came home with a Welsh Dragon tattoo. Something very special about that place. Why have you been in No. Wales?

[nonhocapito]

new mugshot of asymmetric-photojob Loughner. From Radar on line...

[brianv]

new mugshot of asymmetric-photojob Loughner. From Radar on line...

Smile Please! That's great. Thanks a lot. Next!

[gwynned]

I found this comment from the article accompanying the new photo quite interesting:

The newly released mug shots bear a striking resemblance to the previous mug shot, with Loughner’s shaved head and eerie smirk, although the new photos show a prominent laceration on the right side of his head.

First off, there is only one mug shot released that we have seen. Secondly, why would they mention that a mug shot supposedly of the same guy bears a 'striking resemblance? Isn't it the same guy?

Also I find it odd that the Detroit Free Press had to file for release of the photo(s) through the Freedom of Information Act. Does that really apply to mug shots?

[hoi.polloi]

Good digging, everyone. Thanks for staying on top of this ridiculous story.

[fbenario]

Why have you been in No. Wales?

Lots of travel in Britain over many years. Always stay away from London - too crowded, too many Americans - countryside more beautiful and interesting.

[gwynned]

Nevertheless, the meme of the ancient aliens continues to be spread far and wide across the landscape of public conscious (and unconscious)-ness, following the parable of the sower. And although many of us hardened skeptics represent only rocky ground for the seeds constantly being cast about by the ever-busy messengers of deception, other trusting/questing souls who also hunger for the "hidden truths" wind up being fertile soil indeed. I hope you, dear newcomer, are not one of that crowd.

While Fox's psy-op master Chris Carter may well have been correct about the truth being "out there," I am unflinchingly confident that it's NEVER going to leech out from between the duplicitous lips of the bejeweled-blowdried-and-botoxed talking heads of the MSM. That's because the corporate/government propaganda apparatus is so well-designed and obsessively maintained to deal only in half-truths mingled with outright lies. But we can, of course, sift through the dissembling detrius and sometimes seize upon valuable, even prescient CLUES as to what it really is they want us to believe and disbelieve -- and that's what Simon and Hoi's magnificent forum seems to have succeeded at, way out here on the uber-fringes of the Internet, where it's rare, so far, for more than a dozen pairs of eyes to be reading these threads at any given time.

I'm really glad to find some people out there on the uber-fringe as you call it. I think we can agree that this event was a hoax and that most, if not all the 'cast of characters' are fictitious or actors (albeit pretty bad ones.) We know that the PTB are capable of pulling off this hoax. I am simply asking if there might be someone else with the ability to pull off a hoax of this magnitude, like our Mr. V in V for Vendetta. OR, is it, as you suggest, 'so well-designed and obsessively maintained' that it cannot be infiltrated? This may cause me to land on the uber-uber fringe, but I believe this hoax was created by a different mindset - one with an incredible sense of humor.

[hoi.polloi]

All speculation, of course. Still, I suppose it's worth suggesting there could be different people at work doing the same thing.

It looks like similar software to me, though. Compare the parking lot to the "water spout vs. the Pentagon" scene of 9/11 and it looks like the same team struggling to make something look "more correcter" ...

[gwynned]

At the risk of having tomatoes and who knows what else hurled at me in a virtual sense, I'm going to suggest that there are many parallels in this hoax to the Michael Jackson death hoax. I hear the moans and wtf's, but urge you to hang on just a bit.

I was not a big MJ fan. Never bought an album, went to a concert, etc. and I didn't give much thought to the child molestation charges. The day he died my daughter, who IS a big fan, put on some DVDs of his in tribute. I saw a completely new side of him in Earth Song and They Don't Care about us and the whole matter piqued my interest. I saw This is It with my daughter and again with some friends. After the second viewing I was convinced he was murdered. By then I had started looking into the music business and saw how people were manipulated, destroyed, used, etc. It began to make sense to me that someone this popular and compassionate might be a threat and that efforts would be made to discredit him and/or kill him.

In my research on Youtube I stumbled upon my first hoax video. I laughingly looked at it. Another Elvis story. I'm not laughing anymore. The hoax was brilliantly executed, with numerous clues left for fans and supports to find in his absence. AND there's lots of humor.

Of course, most people dismiss me without looking at the evidence. Impossible! They say. Reminds me of 9-11. It's impossible therefore it didn't happen. What Michael appears to have done is to have begun the story of his death with one outlet over which he had ownership or influence, in this case TMZ who incidentally reported his death a bit prematurely! If you will recall, early reports had him alternately dead or in a coma. The announcement at UC Medical Center came from his brother, Jermaine. LaToya signed his death certificate because his doctor refused. The one official from the LAPD who ever spoke about the matter retired a few months later. Perhaps the wildest moment was when he appeared on Larry King the day of his Memorial at the Staples Center, designed as a burn victim named Dave Dave whom Michael had helped years before. Until we just heard Dr. Murray in court plead not guilty, the only time we've heard him speak was on a Youtube video released just after MJ's death in which he thanked his fans! Speculation is that the video is a simulation with Michael's face morphed into Dr. Murrays.

One of the interesting aspects of the hoax is it's relationship to the movie V for Vendetta. There are so many references to Michael in the movie, it cannot be coincidental. It's my contention (and one for which I have almost NO support) that Michael is currently behind the scenes, like the mysterious Mr. V. acting out his vendetta against the media for how they crucified him and also revealing the truth behind the powers that be. He clearly is not acting alone and there has been much speculation in the little hoax community as to who in the media is on his side. But if he could pull this off - and continue to have people believing with the trial coming up shortly - could not he or someone else have pulled off the Tuscon shooting hoax?

Or have I lost you all?

[fbenario]

At the risk of having tomatoes and who knows what else hurled at me in a virtual sense, I'm going to suggest that there are many parallels in this hoax to the Michael Jackson death hoax. I hear the moans and wtf's, but urge you to hang on just a bit.

I was not a big MJ fan. Never bought an album, went to a concert, etc. and I didn't give much thought to the child molestation charges. The day he died my daughter, who IS a big fan, put on some DVDs of his in tribute. I saw a completely new side of him in Earth Song and They Don't Care about us and the whole matter piqued my interest. I saw This is It with my daughter and again with some friends. After the second viewing I was convinced he was murdered. By then I had started looking into the music business and saw how people were manipulated, destroyed, used, etc. It began to make sense to me that someone this popular and compassionate might be a threat and that efforts would be made to discredit him and/or kill him.

In my research on Youtube I stumbled upon my first hoax video. I laughingly looked at it. Another Elvis story. I'm not laughing anymore. The hoax was brilliantly executed, with numerous clues left for fans and supports to find in his absence. AND there's lots of humor.

Of course, most people dismiss me without looking at the evidence. Impossible! They say. Reminds me of 9-11. It's impossible therefore it didn't happen. What Michael appears to have done is to have begun the story of his death with one outlet over which he had ownership or influence, in this case TMZ who incidentally reported his death a bit prematurely! If you will recall, early reports had him alternately dead or in a coma. The announcement at UC Medical Center came from his brother, Jermaine. LaToya signed his death certificate because his doctor refused. The one official from the LAPD who ever spoke about the matter retired a few months later. Perhaps the wildest moment was when he appeared on Larry King the day of his Memorial at the Staples Center, designed as a burn victim named Dave Dave whom Michael had helped years before. Until we just heard Dr. Murray in court plead not guilty, the only time we've heard him speak was on a Youtube video released just after MJ's death in which he thanked his fans! Speculation is that the video is a simulation with Michael's face morphed into Dr. Murrays.

One of the interesting aspects of the hoax is it's relationship to the movie V for Vendetta. There are so many references to Michael in the movie, it cannot be coincidental. It's my contention (and one for which I have almost NO support) that Michael is currently behind the scenes, like the mysterious Mr. V. acting out his vendetta against the media for how they crucified him and also revealing the truth behind the powers that be. He clearly is not acting alone and there has been much speculation in the little hoax community as to who in the media is on his side. But if he could pull this off - and continue to have people believing with the trial coming up shortly - could not he or someone else have pulled off the Tuscon shooting hoax?

Or have I lost you all?

This certainly has the smell of truth to it.

We should try to prove it - and help eradicate the stench of fakery from the world.