OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

[brianv]

Those "photos" are truly something to behold.



Anders is exuding or emiting red!





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[nonhocapito]

Indeed.



Photos by "Trond Solberg".

[Maat]

How can you be so dismissive, Maat? Jim Tucker uses aides and attendants to leak information and he has a very high accuracy rate in the predictions he makes. His summaries usually come true two to three years later. I'm not stupid enough to believe that just because something is called 'American Free Press' that it must mean it's spectacularly impartial and cuts right to the truth in everything the investigator finds. But all you are doing is going to the other extreme and dismissing it out of hand, without having looked into Tucker's work in much detail (which is obvious, considering you connect him with Alex Jones simply because he has sometimes been referenced on Jones' show, like many other quality reseachers, including Alan Watt).

When we consider the lesbian Syrian blogger who turned out to be a white male US army officer, the 'year2183' clue certainly makes sense. It doesn't count as evidence but it's something that is worth being aware of. Why? Because the timing and logistics fit. You can picture in your mind's eye somebody in the Pentagon, who has been tasked with writing Breivik's documents and forum entries and has been playing Mass Effect recently, coming up with that username. Now of course the timing could be a complete coincidence, I realise this. But I trust Tucker's sources on Bilderberg 2008 and I believe that the 'white Al-Qaeda' was discussed at that meeting. If you don't, that's up to you.

Au contraire mon cher, dismissing obvious bullshit is not "going to the other extreme" at all.
So, you believe whatever Jim Tucker claims is reliable, and why exactly — because he's fed what the perps want known for their own cointelpro purposes? You also believe "many...quality researchers" are "referenced" (pimped) on Alex Jones' Media funded show, like Alan Wanker Watt and David Reptilian Icke?

Okaay, now tell us, have any of them once, at any time, acknowledged media fakery and fabricated 'vicsims' in the 9-11 hoax?
There's your sign!

In case you hadn't noticed, this forum is about researching incidents of suspected government & media fraud to find evidence that can be seen and demonstrated; not following, or believing hearsay from, pseudo "truth" leaders or self-styled gurus selling their 'snake oil'. I'd strongly suggest reading the info on this site and forum a bit more thoroughly before proceeding

[nonhocapito]

Photos by "Trond Solberg".
I found three Trond Solberg with a brief search in google.

One is a photographer with a mediocre non-journalistic photostream on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trondsolberg/page5/
another is a sculptor who had an exhibit last year... on septemebr 11th: http://translate.google.com/translate?l ... 1283631478
the third one is a "magician": http://translate.google.com/translate?l ... ne-gang%2F

I don't know who to pick

...on google news, "trond solberg" is credited in only three news items: http://www.google.com/search?q=Trond+So ... 78&bih=886

[brianv]

Indeed.



Photos by "Trond Solberg".

Lord Be Strong

[pov603]

Sorry to 'bang on' about auto-suggestion but it strikes me that the yellow harness on ABB reinforces the peoples' questioning of the incident [ie in that they believe it] asking the question 'Why?' ie 'Y'

[Maat]

Oh good grief! Yeah, Y indeed, pov!
But can someone please tell me, are vans in Norway really so huge? The one behind them even.

[grav]

And... They didn't even use a police ferryboat the get there? did they pay the ticket to be ferried there? who paid for Anders?



Are we asked to believe that all the dozens investigators that must go back and forth from the island everyday for their investigative work these days go with the regular ferry? Is the ferry property of the same political party that "owns" the island too?

does anyone else think it's odd that there is absolutely no identifying markers on that boat? i don't know much about norweigan ship/boat rules, but aren't you usually supposed to have some sort of identifier on every vessel of a certain size, like a name or number? not even a plaque or sign or anything by the captain's door? whose boat is this?

[brianv]

And... They didn't even use a police ferryboat the get there? did they pay the ticket to be ferried there? who paid for Anders?



Are we asked to believe that all the dozens investigators that must go back and forth from the island everyday for their investigative work these days go with the regular ferry? Is the ferry property of the same political party that "owns" the island too?

does anyone else think it's odd that there is absolutely no identifying markers on that boat? i don't know much about norweigan ship/boat rules, but aren't you usually supposed to have some sort of identifier on every vessel of a certain size, like a name or number? not even a plaque or sign or anything by the captain's door? whose boat is this?

And I'd like to know where the photographer was when he took all these shots! Sitting in a row-boat perhaps?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_th ... ainting%29

Who pays the ferryman indeed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_%28mythology%29



This is kinda funky!

[pov603]

And... They didn't even use a police ferryboat the get there? did they pay the ticket to be ferried there? who paid for Anders?



Are we asked to believe that all the dozens investigators that must go back and forth from the island everyday for their investigative work these days go with the regular ferry? Is the ferry property of the same political party that "owns" the island too?

does anyone else think it's odd that there is absolutely no identifying markers on that boat? i don't know much about norweigan ship/boat rules, but aren't you usually supposed to have some sort of identifier on every vessel of a certain size, like a name or number? not even a plaque or sign or anything by the captain's door? whose boat is this?

It would also seem that they never have a clear view of the vehicles registration plates either.
Pure coincidence I'm sure...

[phyres]

So 'phyres' you have no connection to these previous trolls?

firepile
louiscypher
myre

Use your imagination! It proves that most of the world is living in a television and media created fantasy which favours the elite and the creeping introduction of police states. It proves that governments are a sham! It proves that the police are complicit in political and brainwashing operations against it's own people whom they are supposed to protect and serve.

Yes, I have no connection to any of those.

And again, I am NOT dissagreeing with you! Geez!

But photos editted by the media isn't proof of this scam! The media want's to sell their story, so they visit "Pimp my Photos" to add dramatic effects. This could be extra police officers / firefighters, it could be random girls looking at a memorial stone.

There's a LOT of photos that hold information that doesn't add up with the official stories, for instance the Oslo Bombing photos with the debris at the bombsight, the crater, etc.. These pictures are relevant and interesting, because of the clear proof of missinformation and deception.

But examining the pixels of a stone on a memorial site picture.. Come on, why bother? The pictures are clearly staged, being they've been posted by the media to enhance peoples emotions (sorrow, grief, vengeance, etc.).

Actually, I've found out that I have one connection to Norway. An old friend, but she moved to London 1½ years ago. She lived in central Oslo. She might have knowledge of any victims/sims, I'll ask her. And of course provide names if there's any "luck".

[I banned myre permanently, and phyre for one week (benefit of the doubt). Phyre you gotta understand this: it is incredibly simple to be accepted on this forum and not be banned. CONTRIBUTE TO THE RESEARCH. Submitting material to everyone's analysis is contributing. Asking intelligent questions is also contributing. Starting polemics and acting insulted is not contributing. If in a week from now you still find this forum interesting (or you are still assigned to it in your ungrateful job) I am sure there will be plenty of occasions for you to contribute in a constructive way. ~nonhocapito]

[Kentrailer]

Those "photos" are truly something to behold.

wow, I'm convinced!!! How is it.. these people with the best video cameras never seem to get a good close-up shot of this guys face?

Why is it.. in the beginning of that "video" we are shown 3 blurry still shots?

Then.. when "he's" supposedly acting like he's aiming a gun on shore it's a wide-angle shot where you can barely see anything.. then a still shot of the back of his head. Then another wide-angle where you can't see anything.. and finally, the Mercedes G-Class hauls ass out of there and you can't see him in the truck.

Does anyone know if it's possible to download that video? I can't get it using keepvid

Oh, and they supposedly identify the ship @ 2:10 in the video: http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42906

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Edit: I think I just noticed something important- @ 1:26 in the video "Breivik" is shown in front of a cinder block shed- He's the only person moving in the shot. The only other things moving are the water and one tree in that image- check it out.. everybody else is FROZEN. 7 FROZEN Cops.. 1 Moving Breivik.. how weird.

And another edit: I put the video into flash and corrected for the moving camera.. there appears to be a tiny bit of movement with 2 of the cops @1:26.. but not very much.
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Not sure if this video has been shown here yet ( I didn't see it)
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHMQ00IJuI

[pov603]

Without knowing how the Norwegian legal system works, I wonder if they will do what they sometime do in the UK and that is carry out a 'semi' re-enactment of events leading up to the 'incident'.
In this scenario [usually for a missing person's last know whereabouts] they have a 'look-alike-y' trace the persons steps [followed by police and media] at around the same time as the alleged incident took place.
What the authorities usually want to ascertain is whether other people who have not come forward, have their memory 'jogged' and can help provide some useful evidence.
One thing that struck me with ABB's walkabout is the lack of 'tell-tales' showing where alleged victims/spent cartridges lay after the event, that is presuming the area is still judged to be a crime scene even after all this time [can someone confirm whether the public have been allowed back into Utoya?].

[Maat]

Those "photos" are truly something to behold.

wow, I'm convinced!!! How is it.. these people with the best video cameras never seem to get a good close-up shot of this guys face?

Why is it.. in the beginning of that "video" we are shown 3 blurry still shots?

Then.. when "he's" supposedly acting like he's aiming a gun on shore it's a wide-angle shot where you can barely see anything.. then a still shot of the back of his head. Then another wide-angle where you can't see anything.. and finally, the Mercedes G-Class hauls ass out of there and you can't see him in the truck.

Does anyone know if it's possible to download that video? I can't get it using keepvid

Oh, and they supposedly identify the ship @ 2:10 in the video: http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42906

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Edit: I think I just noticed something important- @ 1:26 in the video "Breivik" is shown in front of a cinder block shed- He's the only person moving in the shot. The only other things moving are the water and one tree in that image- check it out.. everybody else is FROZEN. 7 FROZEN Cops.. 1 Moving Breivik.. how weird.

And another edit: I put the video into flash and corrected for the moving camera.. there appears to be a tiny bit of movement with 2 of the cops @1:26.. but not very much.

Love the Leggo-man mask in zooms of 'distant' shots

Well, as I said before, we haven't & won't see a real moving (identifiable) ABB — all they've shown in that carefully contrived 'official' video is a moving distant figure conveniently clad in signature red.

Notice how all visually clear facial shots of ABB are always STILLS!:


(What's that black square stuck on the right side of 'his' head? )

Does Anders-sim generate such a powerful force it disables video cameras' zoom lenses within 500 m?

And of course, we have that 'unique' broken jetty railing with the magic stone steps to 'confirm' location on Utoya:


If that were a simple, real video of police escorting their perp around a crime scene, why such a tediously edited 'production' — still, zoom-out video, still, edit, etc. etc....needing SO many creative credits?

[brianv]