OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Maat wrote: ... Oh man, ain't this a classic though :P
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"RUNNING TO THE POLICE: When the police emergency squad arrives Utøya, there are young people running. Video: Private" http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/24/nyhe ... /17441844/
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The story so far told by the norwegian police is that ten (10) SWAT-type officers initially landed on the
island and that they - within two minutes of having landed - arrested "Anders Behring Breivik". I count
eleven (11) officers in these pictures... So, who made the arrest? ... On the other side of the island??
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Nice try, Fred. You go missing for months because you have no access to a computer and then return spouting rubbish about Bill Hicks//Alex Jones lifted from Lets Roll and I pull you up on it. Touch a nerve did I?
You're still on here defending DDuck and Ozzy despite the board's overlying distrust of them both. :ph34r:

Did you notice DDuck's flawed analysis of the Plane on the Hudson or haven't you caught up with that one yet? :lol:

And to think I was lamenting your absence on here. :unsure:
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Why the concern trolling?

Bill Hicks is Alex Jones is the same actor. There are nice videos exposing such up for all to see on youtube. And hey, they're both from Texas. And Alex does stand-up. Where was Alex Jones for um, say, the first 20 years of his life. And you're telling me this Alex Jones guy is under 40? Born when you say, Ace? Come on! But justify your claims of "rubbish", please, on some other thread. Save your "rubbish" comments for your JREF/CNN work, please.

Far from defending Ozzy and D.Duck I gave my honest opinions of both.

Say "hi" to Jeff Hill for me when you see him at the office later. I'm hard pressed to think of anything you do around here but say "oh, nice, nice nice, but hey, this is seriously flawed". Sorry. It's a bad habit you've got. It makes you indistinguishable from say, Ace Baker or any other troll. I guess you know the photographers and victims personally and will tell us how the analysis earlier on the thread was flawed, and explain to us all how Bill Hicks' old voice got into Alex Jones' old videos, etc.

Please be sure to tell the "Let's Roll" guys I "lifted" something from them. So sorry for your dry lamentations.

You say the analysis is seriously flawed, then you fail to produce any flaws. Better get Achimspok on the case, Ace!
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Sorry that I doubted that the boat really existed in the little lake, unless below photo is a fake.
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It would be interesting to know if the boat is actually certified to carry paying passengers and cars by any local authority, what kind of inspections have been done and what kind of crew/company is operating it. No name/registration number is seen.
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Heiwa wrote:Sorry that I doubted that the boat really existed in the little lake.
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It would be interesting to know if the boat is actually certified to carry paying passengers and cars by any local authority, what kind of inspections have been done and what kind of crew/company is operating it. No name/registration number is seen.
I remember seeing a name on a livesaver ring several pages back.
3/26 http://vg.no/vgpluss/article/1LaxOvUp

Hygea Vista? Could that be it? Hygea Vesta?
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The boat's name is MS Thorbjørn, here transporting some other car to somewhere.
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Re Hygea Vesta I assume it is an insurance company providing life saving equipment on shore as PR.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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What exactly were 70 or 80 or 90 people supposed to be doing on this island? Does this look like a place with lots of picnic tables, places to sing songs, discuss Liberal politics, have lunch, etc? Shouldn't the island be covered with all the brochures for Liberal propaganda that they dropped as they were fleeing the psychotic killer? Are they all so "paperless" that they don't have agendas prepared for their Island Summit or whatever this was supposed to be?

Shouldn't we see shell casings everywhere? Shouldn't they have all kinds of party flags and hoopla and "Welcome Liberal Nepotists" buttons and other crap? Maybe Norway is different, but any time I have ever been to one of these little Hitler Youth rallies they always hand out propaganda and welcome packages and little sandwiches and things like that. You have to spend the better part of an afternoon cleaning up after one of these shindigs. I mean, look at all the crap the Memorial people leave behind. The island would have been completely trashed even without the sudden arrival of a psycho killer. Wouldn't someone have dropped his sweater or mittens or shoes or something?

Shouldn't there be arms and legs blown off and dozens of wounded people being rescued? How come everybody in Oslo is bloody with unicorn horns, but here on this little island we don't see some little kid with half his jaw blown off racing for the SWAT team?

Does the place look shot-up to you or even like anybody was there? This looks like some little island in the middle of nowhere where a couple of fake cops in Yankees caps took a cartoon character in an izod shirt.

Try having 70 kids over to your private island some afternoon and you tell me what the place looks like afterwards. Don't you think we'd see a couple of towels by the beach and some sunscreen? Something? This is ridiculous!
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Heiwa wrote:The boat's name is MS Thorbjørn, here transporting some other car to somewhere.
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Re Hygea Vesta I assume it is an insurance company providing life saving equipment on shore as PR.
thanks Heiwa, i've been wondering about the ID of this boat for awhile. can you tell me is it normal to not have any numbers on the hull of a boat like this?

apparently there's a bit more story-telling related to this vessel

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... rmd%3Divns

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images taken from the link above.
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Would you let 100 kids board the MS Thorbjørn? Remember that they have to have some not-dead-children and some not-dead adult chaperones along for the ride to make this story even a tiny bit plausible (which it is not). It looks like the facilities are not appropriate for large vessels. We know the children didn't come over in canoes because we don't see any canoes and paddles anywhere.

So we're left to believe that all the children swam over to the magic island, because they sure didn't get there on MS Thorbjørn.

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Need a small boat that can hold a couple of vans from Bislet and 100 dead children? Look no further than the MS Thorbjørn. After all, if an entire SWAT team of Twelve can travel in a dingy with guns and ammo and equipment, the MS Thorbjørn seats 120 comfortably.

Real Deel, if you please would you be so kind as to try to populate that boat with 100 Norwegian teens (maybe using Sol Iren Ulvang) as a reference, since she's about the same size and age as these kids? I'm just trying to imagine getting everybody over to the Island. Or maybe they set it up so they made 20 trips back and forth...
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Oh, sorry, my bad. The island had 700 children on it. That's why we don't see any place to have lunch or go to the toilet or anything like that. The reason you don't see any trash cans or anything is because they grow all the food they need to eat right there on the island, invisibly. Or something. And I guess they were all stranded there because Brevik took the MS Thorbjorn. Whatever boat held all 700 children was long gone taking 700 different children somewhere else because they weren't going to need a boat to get off the island, or anything, I guess.

I guess the children were all safe in the underground bunker... no, that can't be it... or maybe the children were all in their tents... or in all those little wooden cabins... wait. I'm not understanding this right. I guess the island has it's own sewer treatment plant, and power generation, and um... OK. I don't get it. How do you get 700 children, plus all their caretakers, plus a crazed psycho-killer onto this tiny island that's visited only by the SS Rustbucket?

This story is bogus.

You suck at psyop Norway!

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/261 ... alt-horror
NORWAY MASSACRE: MUM DIED IN BID TO HALT HORROR

Tuesday July 26 2011 by Daily Express reporter
THE first gun massacre victim was a mother of two shot after mounting a desperate bid to prevent the carnage.

She alerted an unarmed off-duty policeman who also paid with his life trying to tackle Breivik.

Accountant Monica Bosei, 45, caught the same ferry as Breivik to the island of Utoya, where 700 young Labour Party supporters were on an annual summer camp.

Mrs Bosei, known as The Matriach of Utoya after running the camp for 20 years, became suspicious of Breivik over his replies when she asked about the earlier bombing in Oslo.

During the 10-minute trip she quizzed Breivik who was dressed in a fake policeman’s uniform and carried a bag with a Ruger semi-automatic rifle, a Glock pistol and a mountain of ammunition.

When the MS Thorbjorn docked, Mrs Bosei leapt off the vessel and ran to get help.

She alerted policeman Trond Bernsten, 51, who was working as a volunteer camp guard. Last night it was revealed he was the step-brother of Crown Princess Mette-Marit, wife of Norway’s future king Crown Prince Haakon.
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When the MS Thorbjorn docked, Mrs Bosei leapt off the vessel and ran to get help.
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He was on the island with his 10-year-old son who he ushered to a place of safety before setting off to help.

Breivik opened fire on Mrs Bosei, then Mr Bernsten.

He has told police his main target on the island was Gro Harlem Brundtland, 72, who was a three-times socialist prime minister of Norway.

Respected Mrs Brundtland, now a United Nations special envoy, left Utoya just 30 minutes before Breivik arrived. The killer had arrived later than planned after being held up in traffic on his way out of Oslo after his fertiliser bomb sparked chaos.
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fred wrote:Shouldn't there be arms and legs blown off and dozens of wounded people being rescued? How come everybody in Oslo is bloody with unicorn horns, but here on this little island we don't see some little kid with half his jaw blown off racing for the SWAT team?
The apparent brutality of Breivik's killing methods was emphasized by an authority figure (from my earlier post in this thread, http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2355741):
Makkonen wrote:It is the opinion/statement of Ringriket hospital's leading surgeon named "Colin Poole" that Breivik used exploding bullets that caused "terrible" internal injuries to the vicsims. No unbroken bullets were found in any of the wounded vicsims. (http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/brei ... 65574.html)
Scores of brutal killings with exploding bullets (unless the exploding bullets were reserved just for the surviving actors/vicsims, of course), yet no gore factor whatsoever. What gives?

But I guess they're trying to temper ABB's character now, seeing as he likes to watch family friendly DVDs: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2357454
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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I guess we're meant to believe that the little Liberals made 10 or 15 trips like this, and then they jumped out and swam to shore, or shimmied down a rope or something, because you're not docking Norwegian Cruise Line at that little island.

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Hey Synne, be careful! You borrowed my iPad and I don't want it getting ruined!
Don't worry Sol, if I drown the death toll will just be 88 instead of 77...
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"Respected Mrs Brundtland, now a United Nations special envoy, left Utoya just 30 minutes before Breivik arrived. "

So I guess she got off the SS Rustbucket as Andersim and Momma Utoya "Barabara Olson" were waiting for the next departure to the Island of the Slain. What a bummer he didnt take a pop at her then. How could he have missed seeing her, it's not like it's JFK or something. All those kids might have been saved too!

"Had a mountain of Ammo""

To whack the aging politician.
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fred wrote: SS Rustbucket
haha i like the boat's new name


so there was some decision made that the SS Rustbucket would be best for the job because the bullets couldn't penetrate it's hull?

the translation is a little funny on this site... death bullets? there's some more 'characters' listed in this article as well with photographs.
Several weapons experts told Nettavisen that MS would Thorbjørn tolerated Utøya-terrorist death bullets.

Thursday newspaper wrote the story of Able Seaman John Valley Giske (20), which together with the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen and seven others fled the island in the AUF-boat MS Thorbjørn.

In a panic, they sailed north on Tyrifjorden half an hour, the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen has characterized as "a safe place."

For the nine on board, it was impossible to understand the scope of what happened on the island.

They were primarily anxious to get ashore and get notified police.

Weapons Experts newspaper has been in contact with said namely that the bullets from Behring Breivik weapons would hardly penetrated the steel hull of the AUF-boat.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Gro Harlem Brundtland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro_Harlem_Brundtland):

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Gro Harlem Brundtland (Norwegian pronunciation: [ɡruː hɑːɭɛm brʉntlɑnː] (born Gro Harlem, 20 April 1939) is a Norwegian Social democratic politician, diplomat, and physician, and an international leader in sustainable development and public health. She served three terms as Prime Minister of Norway (1981, 1986-89, 1990-96), and has served as the Director General of the World Health Organization. She now serves as a Special Envoy on Climate Change for the United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. In 2008 she became the recipient of the Thomas Jefferson Foundation Medal in Architecture.
[Just my personal opinion] What a surprise that she's part of another hoax with the climate change scaremongering. How's it hanging with David (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtudNpL30BU), m*****f*****?
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